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Building Contiki Apps

Started byBobbi Webber-Manners <bobbi.8bit@gmail.com>
First post2020-06-18 23:09 +0000
Last post2020-06-20 08:50 -0700
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  Building Contiki Apps Bobbi Webber-Manners <bobbi.8bit@gmail.com> - 2020-06-18 23:09 +0000
    Re: Building Contiki Apps D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2020-06-18 23:19 +0000
      Re: Building Contiki Apps Oliver Schmidt <ol.sc@web.de> - 2020-06-19 01:33 -0700
        Re: Building Contiki Apps Bobbi Webber-Manners <bobbi.8bit@NOSPAM.gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 02:02 +0000
          Re: Building Contiki Apps Oliver Schmidt <ol.sc@web.de> - 2020-06-20 08:50 -0700

#5607 — Building Contiki Apps

FromBobbi Webber-Manners <bobbi.8bit@gmail.com>
Date2020-06-18 23:09 +0000
SubjectBuilding Contiki Apps
Message-ID<BOjtBQfkETcrHOgnHPdm%bobbi.8bit@gmail.com>
Hi there.

First posting from Snap on the GS here, so apologies if the headers are messed up or something!

I have been playing around with a trivial Python program to act as an HTTP->HTTPS proxy, allowing a retro machine to request HTTPS pages.  I would like to hack support for my 'proxy' into the Contiki Web Browser.

The Contiki code, including the apps, is on GitHub so I grabbed it.  However it seems that there are no makefiles to build the apps 'out of the box'.  Am I missing something?  What do I need to build WEBBROWSE.SYSTEM?

All the best,
Bobbi

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#5608

FromD Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com>
Date2020-06-18 23:19 +0000
Message-ID<dog_cow-1592522380@macgui.com>
In reply to#5607
Bobbi Webber-Manners wrote:
> Hi there.
> 
> First posting from Snap on the GS here, so apologies if the headers are
> messed up or something!

Rest assured, SNAP on the IIgs does not make messed up headers! :-)

>  What do I need to build WEBBROWSE.SYSTEM?
> 

You need Oliver Schmidt, who is the Contiki maintainer, and who I'm sure can
give you the low-down on building these apps.

-- 
]DF$
The New Apple II User's Guide:
https://macgui.com/newa2guide/

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#5611

FromOliver Schmidt <ol.sc@web.de>
Date2020-06-19 01:33 -0700
Message-ID<2276b150-beac-44ae-99a4-e8cb9705581bo@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#5608
Hi Bobbi,

> >  I would like to hack support for my 'proxy' into the Contiki Web Browser.

Maybe you want to consider to implement a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server#Transparent_proxy instead.

> >  However it seems that there are no makefiles to build the apps 'out of the box'.  Am I missing something?  What do I need to build WEBBROWSE.SYSTEM?

> You need Oliver Schmidt, who is the Contiki maintainer, and who I'm sure can
> give you the low-down on building these apps.

For sure ;-)

There are two entry points into the build system:

1. For building the distro disk images:

https://github.com/oliverschmidt/contiki/blob/master/tools/6502/Makefile

2. For building a single app for testing purposes:

I presume you looked at https://github.com/oliverschmidt/contiki/tree/master/apps/webbrowser but you have to look at https://github.com/oliverschmidt/contiki/tree/master/examples/webbrowser-80col where you'll find https://github.com/oliverschmidt/contiki/blob/master/examples/webbrowser-80col/Makefile

Have fun,
Oliver

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#5612

FromBobbi Webber-Manners <bobbi.8bit@NOSPAM.gmail.com>
Date2020-06-20 02:02 +0000
Message-ID<BKcnHQekHQcmDLjkEThl%bobbi.8bit@gmail.com>
In reply to#5611
"Oliver Schmidt" wrote:

> Hi Bobbi,
> 
> > >  I would like to hack support for my 'proxy' into the Contiki Web
> Browser.
> 
> Maybe you want to consider to implement a
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server#Transparent_proxy instead.
> 
> > >  However it seems that there are no makefiles to build the apps 'out
> of the box'.  Am I missing something?  What do I need to build
> WEBBROWSE.SYSTEM?
> 
> > You need Oliver Schmidt, who is the Contiki maintainer, and who I'm
> sure can
> > give you the low-down on building these apps.
> 
> For sure ;-)
> 
> There are two entry points into the build system:
> 
> 1. For building the distro disk images:
> 
> https://github.com/oliverschmidt/contiki/blob/master/tools/6502/Makefile
> 
> 2. For building a single app for testing purposes:
> 
> I presume you looked at
> https://github.com/oliverschmidt/contiki/tree/master/apps/webbrowser but
> you have to look at
> https://github.com/oliverschmidt/contiki/tree/master/examples/webbrowser-
> 80col where you'll find
> https://github.com/oliverschmidt/contiki/blob/master/examples/webbrowser-
> 80col/Makefile
> 
> Have fun,
> Oliver

Hi Oliver,

Thanks - that should get me started building and playing with Contiki. I agree a 'proper' web proxy would be the best way to go, although my dirty hack has the advantage of working reasonably well without any client support.

I am thinking of writing a simple POP3/SMTP email program for ProDOS, but I am just in the planning / high-level design phase right now.

All the best,
Bobbi 

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#5614

FromOliver Schmidt <ol.sc@web.de>
Date2020-06-20 08:50 -0700
Message-ID<dbee2a94-cb27-486d-8ec0-696b120fa5e5o@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#5612
Hi Bobbi,

> I am thinking of writing a simple POP3/SMTP email program for ProDOS, but I am just in the planning / high-level design phase right now.

I presume you're already aware of https://github.com/oliverschmidt/contiki/tree/master/examples/email - not that I'm saying that it is great in any aspect.

Additionally I'd like to mention that Contiki is a - from my POV - not exactly easy-to-understand _framework_. You have to integrate your code "into" Contiki.

In contrast https://github.com/cc65/ip65 has a less elegant design but is - again from my POV - easier to grasp. It's more like a _library_ you integrate into your code.

Regards,
Oliver

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