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Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program.

From	"Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.apple2.programmer
Subject	Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program.
Date	2014-01-09 05:51 -0600
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"Oliver Schmidt" <ol.sc@web.de> wrote:
Bill Buckels wrote:
>> You can't put lipstick on a fish and call it a woman.
>And I was stupid enough to think that after all these years you had finally 
>passed the point of those stupid discussions :-(

Hi Oliver,

Well, I can see that you are as intolerant as I am.

That's just my opinion Oliver after 30 years of using inline assembly with C 
extensively in several compilers on several platforms. But to you and those 
who like modern compilers, Aztec C is the fish, and opinions that conflict 
with your own are as stupid as my own, no-more and no-less.

And I read Wikipedia's article on inline assembly before giving you my 
opinion which you FEEL is stupid. The article is a stub. I will need to add 
to the inline assembly article to provide more detail and a historical 
perspective as to how inline assembly has devolved to its present 
watered-down lame version.

Quoting some links seems stupid to me since opinions are like brains; 
everybody has one. As a Wikipedia Author, I have cleaned-up articles before, 
like the unilateral cross-compiler article that was orginally provided with 
a limited perspective.

Aztec C's inline assembly is full-featured without you trying to redefine 
what a compiler or an assembler is and isn't, especially when the compilers 
and assemblers that use a different approach to cc65 have been around for 30 
years. Aztec C and Microsoft C and Borland C use variants of the asm block 
to insert pure instructions. cc65 uses a lame approach.

If I was going to compare cc65's inline assembly I would compare it to 
Microsoft BASIC on the IBM-PC.

See my wikipedia article on the BSAVE image format for an example of that.

Just straighten-out things yourself. Totalitarianism cannot change history.

Sorry if my opinions hurt your feelings, or conflict with your opinions on 
the use of usenet. cc65 is a modern compiler and produces quicker, smaller, 
and more efficient code than Aztec C. Aztec C has features that I like, and 
is easier for me and others like me to use.

Whether there are others like me left on this planet is also a matter of 
opinion.

Bill

Thread

Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-01 21:40 +1300
  Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2014-01-01 09:15 -0800
    Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-02 08:18 +1300
      Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-01-01 14:44 -0600
        Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-02 21:38 +1300
          Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-01-02 04:49 -0600
            Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Steven Hirsch <snhirsch@gmail.com> - 2014-01-02 07:26 -0500
              Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-01-02 18:23 -0600
        Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-03 21:42 +1300
          Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2014-01-03 08:15 -0500
            Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-01-03 10:26 -0600
            Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-04 10:47 +1300
              Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2014-01-04 04:11 -0600
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-05 12:53 +1300
            Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2014-01-03 23:55 -0800
              Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-05 13:58 +1300
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2014-01-04 20:24 -0800
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-06 11:11 +1300
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-08 20:43 +1300
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2014-01-08 15:41 -0800
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-09 21:34 +1300
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2014-01-09 03:42 -0600
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-11 17:12 +1300
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2014-01-10 23:59 -0800
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-12 07:47 +1300
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-12 11:39 +1300
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2014-01-11 16:43 -0800
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-13 13:57 +1300
            Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2014-01-03 23:50 -0800
        Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. ol.sc@web.de (Oliver Schmidt) - 2014-01-08 20:08 +0000
          Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-01-08 18:39 -0600
            Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Oliver Schmidt <ol.sc@web.de> - 2014-01-09 00:55 -0800
              Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-01-09 05:51 -0600
          Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-09 21:44 +1300
            Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Oliver Schmidt <ol.sc@web.de> - 2014-01-09 01:20 -0800
              Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-01-09 05:56 -0600
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2014-01-09 11:09 -0500
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2014-01-09 09:29 -0800
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2014-01-09 12:48 -0500
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-01-09 18:17 -0600
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. aiiadict@gmail.com - 2014-01-09 20:57 -0800
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-01-10 05:41 -0600
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. David Schmidt <schmidtd@my-deja.com> - 2014-01-10 07:56 -0500
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-01-10 19:49 -0600
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2014-01-10 08:39 -0800
                Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. aiiadict@gmail.com - 2014-01-10 15:58 -0800
      Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2014-01-01 22:28 -0800
        Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-03 08:40 +1300
          Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-01-02 18:33 -0600
          Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2014-01-02 21:05 -0800
            Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-03 20:20 +1300
  Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Anton Treuenfels" <teamtempest@yahoo.com> - 2014-01-02 18:58 -0600
    Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-03 21:05 +1300
      Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Anton Treuenfels" <teamtempest@yahoo.com> - 2014-01-03 18:17 -0600
        Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Bill Buckels" <bbuckels@mts.net> - 2014-01-03 21:32 -0600
        Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. gids.rs@sasktel.net - 2014-01-03 23:15 -0800
          Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. "Anton Treuenfels" <teamtempest@yahoo.com> - 2014-01-04 19:30 -0600
        Re: Suggestions for improving speed of .SYS program. Matt <matt@clickertraining.co.nz> - 2014-01-05 12:50 +1300

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