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  DeskLib and GCCSDK Steve Fryatt <steve@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2020-05-11 16:04 +0100
    Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2020-05-12 21:52 +0100
      Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2020-05-12 22:15 +0100
        Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2020-05-12 23:34 +0100
          Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2020-05-13 16:00 +0100
        Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> - 2020-05-12 23:39 +0100
          Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2020-05-13 10:25 +0100
            Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2020-05-13 11:33 +0100
              Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2020-06-16 15:28 +0100
                Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2020-06-16 16:09 +0100
                  Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2020-06-16 19:03 +0100
                    Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2020-06-16 22:24 +0100
                      Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2020-06-16 23:47 +0100
                Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2020-06-16 17:28 +0100
                  Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2020-06-16 22:19 +0100
            Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> - 2020-05-13 10:54 +0100
          Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Alan Adams <alan@adamshome.org.uk> - 2020-05-13 10:55 +0100
      Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> - 2020-05-13 08:50 +0200
        Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2020-05-13 10:29 +0100
          Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2020-05-13 13:12 +0100
          Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Jean-Michel <jmc.bruck@orange.fr> - 2020-05-13 17:12 +0200
            Re: DeskLib and GCCSDK Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2020-05-13 17:25 +0100

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#6103

In message <mpro.qa9joi01f7vzj0c85.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>
          Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

> On 13 May, Jean-Michel wrote in message
>     <ab06e16f58.jmb@jmc.bruck.orange.fr>:

>> In message <8En*QmSRx@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>
>>           Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think anyone is maintaining it.  I think the GCCSDK mailing list
>>> is probably the place to ask, as there are at least some people with
>>> commit access to the repo.
>> 
>> Unless you are only looking for a GCC version only, I think Rick Murray
>> did it


> Rick has a hacked around version of an older version, I think. It claims to
> be based on a 2004 vintage, which would mean that it misses many of the
> changes of the current version in SVN, but then appears to have some
> different changes of Rick's own devising.

>> Desklib is part of RISC OS source code, downloadable from RISC OS OPEN.

> Have you got a link to that?

I have an ARMX6 and I downloaded OMAP4Dev
from:
 https://www.riscosopen.org/content/downloads/risc-os-tarballs

In RiscOs.sources.lib there is a lib named Desk (not desklib)
Comparing the directoriy of headers with that of Rick desklib, it seems to 
me that it is the same library. and more complete.
 With Desk (from ROOL) there is no source, just the headers and the 
library.

I use DDE and so I added Desk to my libraries, but I mostly use OsLib as 
in your documentation: "wimp Programming in C" on your website.
Thanks for this tutorial, it should help Risc OS programmers get started. 
DDE + ToolBox + Risc OS libraries and documentation are now affordable.
It's just my opinion.


-- 
Jean-Michel

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#6104

On 13 May, Jean-Michel wrote in message
    <d7040f7058.jmb@jmc.bruck.orange.fr>:

> In RiscOs.sources.lib there is a lib named Desk (not desklib) Comparing
> the directoriy of headers with that of Rick desklib, it seems to me that
> it is the same library. and more complete.
>  With Desk (from ROOL) there is no source, just the headers and the 
> library.

Desk was a "reimagining" of DeskLib sometime in the early 1990s by one of
the original developers, which involved some significant namespace and API
changes. To differentiate it from DeskLib (then at around 2.00, IIRC), it
got the version number 3.00 and the trendy name "Desk".

The idea was that everyone would upgrade, so this made sense. The
improvements made a lot of sense, too, from what I remember. Upgrading a
project to use Desk was a lot of work. Most developers didn't bother.

Now it seems that DeskLib has reached version 3.00 itself, which isn't at
all confusing.

> I use DDE and so I added Desk to my libraries, but I mostly use OsLib as
> in your documentation: "wimp Programming in C" on your website. Thanks for
> this tutorial, it should help Risc OS programmers get started.

No problem; it's grown a bit in the past few weeks, thanks to lock-down.

:-)

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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