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  Mimemap Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2024-11-28 15:55 +0000
    Re: Mimemap Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2024-11-28 16:15 +0000
      Re: Mimemap Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2024-11-29 20:25 +0000
        Re: Mimemap Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> - 2024-11-29 23:11 +0000
        Re: Mimemap Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2024-11-29 23:28 +0000
          Re: Mimemap Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2024-11-30 11:35 +0000
            Re: Mimemap Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2024-11-30 12:41 +0000
              Re: Mimemap Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> - 2024-11-30 13:29 +0000

#5180 — Mimemap

Hi,

On my FAST machine I have one MimeMap in 

 !Boot.Resources.!Internet.files.MimeMap

as expected.

However, on my Virtual Acorn machines there appear to be many of them.

Surely there should be only one.  The poor machines must be confused.

Virtual Acorn  Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 RiscBook Lenovo laptop

HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap
HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!Flash.Docs.Mimemap
HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network.MimeMap
HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Modules.Network.MimeMap


Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 Acer netbook


HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap
HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network.MimeMap
HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Modules.Network.MimeMap
HostFS::HardDisc4.$.5DataBase.FireWkzPro.System.!System.310.Modules.Network.MimeMap
HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Comp.''InfoRisc.MimeMaps.MimeMap
HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Comp.''InfoRisc.MimeMaps.~Tim.mimemap
HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Email.!Messenger.Resources.MimeMap
HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Web.WebsterXL.!WebsterXL.Fetchers.!WebFetch.MimeMap
HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Web.WebsterXL.!WebsterXL.Resources.MimeMap

-- 
Chris

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#5181

In article <5bc6f298d8newslists@npost.uk>,
   Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> wrote:
> On my FAST machine I have one MimeMap in 
>  !Boot.Resources.!Internet.files.MimeMap
> as expected.

That is the *only* one that is used, assuming variables are set...
Inet$MimeMappings : InetDBase:MimeMap 
InetDBase$Path : .....!BOOT.Resources.!Internet.files.

> However, on my Virtual Acorn machines there appear to be many of
> them.

> Surely there should be only one.  The poor machines must be
> confused.

> Virtual Acorn  Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 RiscBook Lenovo laptop

> HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap

Check the variables as above - RO4 did move things around.

> HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!Flash.Docs.Mimemap

Sounds like some documentation?

> HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network.Mime
> Map
> HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Modules.Network.MimeMap

Probably copies of the MimeMap *module*, not the text file list.
In RO5 the module is in the ROM, not on disc.

> Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 Acer netbook

> HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap

See above for RO4

> HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network.Mime
> Map
> HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Modules.Network.MimeMap
> HostFS::HardDisc4.$.5DataBase.FireWkzPro.System.!System.310.Modules.
> Network.MimeMap

All modules?

> HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Comp.''InfoRisc.MimeMaps.MimeMap
> HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Comp.''InfoRisc.MimeMaps.~Tim.mimemap
> HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Email.!Messenger.Resourc
> es.MimeMap
> HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Web.WebsterXL.!WebsterXL
> .Fetchers.!WebFetch.MimeMap
> HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Web.WebsterXL.!WebsterXL
> .Resources.MimeMap

No idea. What are those files?

-- 
Martin Avison 
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received. 

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#5182

In article <5bc6f47668News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
   Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <5bc6f298d8newslists@npost.uk>,
>    Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> wrote:
> > On my FAST machine I have one MimeMap in 
> >  !Boot.Resources.!Internet.files.MimeMap
> > as expected.

> That is the *only* one that is used, assuming variables are set...
> Inet$MimeMappings : InetDBase:MimeMap 
> InetDBase$Path : .....!BOOT.Resources.!Internet.files.

> > However, on my Virtual Acorn machines there appear to be many of
> > them.

> > Surely there should be only one.  The poor machines must be
> > confused.

> > Virtual Acorn  Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 RiscBook Lenovo laptop

> > HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap

> Check the variables as above - RO4 did move things around.

> > HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!Flash.Docs.Mimemap

> Sounds like some documentation?

> > HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network.Mime
> > Map
> > HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Modules.Network.MimeMap

> Probably copies of the MimeMap *module*, not the text file list.
> In RO5 the module is in the ROM, not on disc.

> > Virtual Acorn Adjust 4.39 Windows 10 Acer netbook

> > HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.MimeMap

> See above for RO4

> > HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.310.Modules.Network.Mime
> > Map
> > HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!System.Modules.Network.MimeMap
> > HostFS::HardDisc4.$.5DataBase.FireWkzPro.System.!System.310.Modules.
> > Network.MimeMap

> All modules?

> > HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Comp.''InfoRisc.MimeMaps.MimeMap
> > HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Comp.''InfoRisc.MimeMaps.~Tim.mimemap
> > HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Email.!Messenger.Resourc
> > es.MimeMap
> > HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Web.WebsterXL.!WebsterXL
> > .Fetchers.!WebFetch.MimeMap
> > HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Networking.NF-Store.550.Web.WebsterXL.!WebsterXL
> > .Resources.MimeMap

> No idea. What are those files?
Thans Martin. I'll have to slowly investigate each one. I have no idea
why so many modules.

-- 
Chris

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#5183

In article <5bc78f21adnewslists@npost.uk>,
   Chris Newman <newslists@npost.uk> wrote:
> Thans Martin. I'll have to slowly investigate each one. I have no
> idea why so many modules.

If a module version has restrictions on which versions of RISC OS it
can be used on, there can be different versions of modules in the
boot sequence. This enables the boot sequence to run on different
versions of RISC OS with the right version of module.  I would leave
Modules alone, unless you are brave!

-- 
Martin Avison 
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received. 

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#5184

On 29 Nov, Chris Newman wrote in message
    <5bc78f21adnewslists@npost.uk>:

> I'll have to slowly investigate each one.

What do you hope to achieve?

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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#5185

In article <mpro.snqjvd00f5ykw09xd.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
   Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> On 29 Nov, Chris Newman wrote in message
>     <5bc78f21adnewslists@npost.uk>:

> > I'll have to slowly investigate each one.

> What do you hope to achieve?

I've been constructing a lecture about the Gennett recording studio and
early jazz. I've found the audio tracks I'd like to use but they are in
various formats. I'm using OHP on RISC OS so I need to convert all to a
format RISC OS can use eg WAV. Andre Temmermans Digital CD has a list of
supported file formats so I wanted to ensure my mimemap was up to date
with the appropriate extensions/filetypes but it would be helpful if I
only needed to update whatever the main copy is on each machine, not all
the separate iterations.

-- 
Chris

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#5186

On 30 Nov, Chris Newman wrote in message
    <5bc7e2756anewslists@npost.uk>:

> In article <mpro.snqjvd00f5ykw09xd.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
>    Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> > On 29 Nov, Chris Newman wrote in message
> >     <5bc78f21adnewslists@npost.uk>:
> 
> > > I'll have to slowly investigate each one.
> 
> > What do you hope to achieve?
> 
> I wanted to ensure my mimemap was up to date with the appropriate
> extensions/filetypes but it would be helpful if I only needed to update
> whatever the main copy is on each machine, not all the separate
> iterations.

So Martin has answered that one: it's the text file pointed to by
Inet$MimeMappings. Other text files will be ignored, and the system will
ensure that a suitable MimeMap module is loaded.

There's certainly no need to investigate each module, and there's probably
little benefit to checking all of the alternative mappings files -- just
because something was supplied with WebsterXL in the 00s doesn't mean that
it's correct today!

The version that comes with RISC OS 5 is probably fairly comprehensive. Tim
Hill used to maintain a "complete" file, too. There's a lot to be said for
keeping a standard set of mappings across all of your computers, so that
things don't change types when moved between them. But AFAIK the problem of
producing a definitive set of mappings has largely been sorted now, so
rolling your own seems like a lot of duplicated effort.

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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#5187

In article <mpro.snrkl900gh5wd043i.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>, Steve Fryatt
<news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:


> The version that comes with RISC OS 5 is probably fairly comprehensive.
> Tim Hill used to maintain a "complete" file, too. There's a lot to be
> said for keeping a standard set of mappings across all of your
> computers, so that things don't change types when moved between them.
> But AFAIK the problem of producing a definitive set of mappings has
> largely been sorted now, so rolling your own seems like a lot of
> duplicated effort.

Quite so but I did think I spotted a couple of things in the Digital CD
which weren't in my list. No biggie. I'll investigate when I have more
time. My Round Tuitt got smashed.  ;-)

-- 
Chris

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