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Re: Aleph1 Elvis podule in RiscPC - compatibility with OS4 versions?

Started byDave Daniels <dave_daniels@127.0.0.1>
First post2012-08-27 09:11 +0100
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  Re: Aleph1 Elvis podule in RiscPC - compatibility with OS4 versions? Dave Daniels <dave_daniels@127.0.0.1> - 2012-08-27 09:11 +0100
    Re: Aleph1 Elvis podule in RiscPC - compatibility with OS4 versions? cferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid - 2012-08-27 11:55 +0100

#4 — Re: Aleph1 Elvis podule in RiscPC - compatibility with OS4 versions?

FromDave Daniels <dave_daniels@127.0.0.1>
Date2012-08-27 09:11 +0100
SubjectRe: Aleph1 Elvis podule in RiscPC - compatibility with OS4 versions?
Message-ID<52c5b67162dave_daniels@ormail.co.uk>
In article <ufd*03zdu@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
   Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Andrew Wickham <ajw99uk@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > oops, that should have read "extra-cpu" not "2ndprocessor" but that
> > group
> > now seems rather moribund anyway.

> Well, extra-cpu was intended for precisely this sort of thing, but I doubt
> anyone reads that any more.

> I suspect Kinetic is not going to work due to extensive memory map changes,
> but RISC OS 4 and later might be more likely to work on a normal ARM.  Does
> it work with a StrongARM on RO3.7?  If so, SA on RO4/Adjust have a
> reasonable chance of working.  RISC OS 5 probably won't work.

I can tell you that !PC 3.06 or earlier do not work with RISC OS
6. I downloaded the source for it that Aleph One kindly made
open source and fixed it in version 3.08 of !PC. That was
supplied on the last RISC OS 6 CD. !PC was well written and used
the documented APIs but RISC OS ltd changed these in RISC OS 6
breaking !PC in various ways. (IIRC it was things like no longer
being able to find the physical address of the video memory
which !PC needs for good technical reasons plus OS_Memory in
RISC OS 6 is broken.) It works fine with a StrongARM processor.
IIRC it worked with RISC OS 4 as well but I think you needed !PC
3.06. There are references to the PC podule in the !PC source so
it might still work with that. Theoretically it might be
possible to get the PC podule working in an Iyonix by just
recompiling !PC as 32 bit. There is one tiny assembler module
and the rest is in C so it should be trivial to do this, but I
do not think we are in "killer app" territory here!

> Theo

Dave Daniels

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Fromcferris@freeRemoveuk.com.invalid
Date2012-08-27 11:55 +0100
Message-ID<4b7ec5c552.cferris@cferris.freeuk.com>
In reply to#4
In message <52c5b67162dave_daniels@ormail.co.uk>
          Dave Daniels <dave_daniels@127.0.0.1> wrote:

> In article <ufd*03zdu@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
>    Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> Andrew Wickham <ajw99uk@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> oops, that should have read "extra-cpu" not "2ndprocessor" but that
>>> group
[snip]
> Theoretically it might be possible to get the PC podule working in an
> Iyonix by just recompiling !PC as 32 bit. There is one tiny assembler
> module and the rest is in C so it should be trivial to do this, but I
> do not think we are in "killer app" territory here!

Is the updated source available on the web - am using R0 5.19 (19 Jun 
12) with my SA RPC - and it would be interesting to see if I could use 
the Pc card.

What was the latest version of 'Windows' to run on the PC card?


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Colin Ferris Cornwall UK

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