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  Re: Font Directory Pro 3.24 available Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-05 09:10 +0100
    Re: Font Directory Pro 3.24 available Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-09-05 09:29 +0100
      Re: Font Directory Pro 3.24 available Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2026-09-05 10:20 +0100
        Re: Font Directory Pro 3.24 available Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> - 2026-09-05 12:25 +0100
      Re: Font Directory Pro 3.24 available Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-09-05 16:46 +0100
        Re: Font Directory Pro 3.24 available Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> - 2026-09-05 17:49 +0100

#19706 — Re: Font Directory Pro 3.24 available

In article <ap.0830f85d13.a701a0a.m.conroy@argonet.co.uk>,
   Elesar Sales <sales@elesar.co.uk> wrote:
> Buying a new copy
> -----------------
> For those wanting to buy a new copy please visit

>   https://shop.elesar.co.uk/index.php?route=3Dproduct/product&product_id=3D67

> with a new licence costing =A345.00 inc VAT, or save 25% by trading in
> any older version prior to 3.20 even if it came on a floppy disc!

Who on RISC OS is going to pay 345.00 quid for a font manager.
Really!

Dave

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Dave Triffid

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#19707

In message <5d13761a03dave@triffid.co.uk>
          Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <ap.0830f85d13.a701a0a.m.conroy@argonet.co.uk>,
>    Elesar Sales <sales@elesar.co.uk> wrote:
>> Buying a new copy
>> -----------------
>> For those wanting to buy a new copy please visit

>>   https://shop.elesar.co.uk/index.php?route=3Dproduct/product&product_id=3
>> D67

>> with a new licence costing =A345.00 inc VAT, or save 25% by trading in
>> any older version prior to 3.20 even if it came on a floppy disc!

> Who on RISC OS is going to pay 345.00 quid for a font manager.
> Really!

Use the correct font and it display correctly as 45 quid. But I assume you 
knew that ! :-)



-- 
Chris Hughes

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#19708

On 5 Sept, Chris Hughes wrote in message
    <01c877135d.chris@mytardis>:

> In message <5d13761a03dave@triffid.co.uk>
>           Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Who on RISC OS is going to pay 345.00 quid for a font manager. Really!
> 
> Use the correct font and it display correctly as 45 quid.

It actually looks like the usual problem of trying to post pound signs to
Usenet and failing due to the encoding requirements. So not much to do with
the font.

> But I assume you knew that ! :-)

But yes, seeing "=A3" instead of a pound sign is so common these day, it
should be the first thing to consider...

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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#19709

In message <mpro.tkvwld00jguoj0b8p.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>
          Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:

> On 5 Sept, Chris Hughes wrote in message
>     <01c877135d.chris@mytardis>:

>> In message <5d13761a03dave@triffid.co.uk>
>>           Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Who on RISC OS is going to pay 345.00 quid for a font manager. Really!
>> 
>> Use the correct font and it display correctly as 45 quid.

> It actually looks like the usual problem of trying to post pound signs to
> Usenet and failing due to the encoding requirements. So not much to do with
> the font.

To be honest I was thinking it was original posted using a unicode font 
and then hit the encoding issue. But agree with your comment.

>> But I assume you knew that ! :-)

> But yes, seeing "=A3" instead of a pound sign is so common these day, it
> should be the first thing to consider...

yep.



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Chris Hughes

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#19710

In article <01c877135d.chris@mytardis>,
   Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <5d13761a03dave@triffid.co.uk>
>           Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> > In article <ap.0830f85d13.a701a0a.m.conroy@argonet.co.uk>,
> >    Elesar Sales <sales@elesar.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Buying a new copy
> >> -----------------
> >> For those wanting to buy a new copy please visit

> >>   https://shop.elesar.co.uk/index.php?route=3Dproduct/product&product_id=3
> >> D67

> >> with a new licence costing =A345.00 inc VAT, or save 25% by trading in
> >> any older version prior to 3.20 even if it came on a floppy disc!

> > Who on RISC OS is going to pay 345.00 quid for a font manager.
> > Really!

> Use the correct font and it display correctly as 45 quid. But I assume
> you knew that ! :-)

In my dotage, I know nuffink...  ;-)

I just use Pluto as is, how would I change its Font?

Dave

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Dave Triffid

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#19711

On 5 Sept, Dave wrote in message
    <5d139fc5d0dave@triffid.co.uk>:

> I just use Pluto as is, how would I change its Font?

You don't: as I wrote, it's an encoding issue. The UK Pound Sign is a
top-bit character in some specific encodings. But Usenet doesn't support
top-bit characters directly, so any posting including a Pound sign needs to
a) be in MIME encoding so that top-bit characters can be included, and b)
specify the character set used as one which includes a Pound sign.

But, csa.announce (where this originated) does not support any top-bit
characters in postings (indeed, point 3 of the "don'ts" in section 5 of
https://www.owlart.net/csaa/charter.html explicitly states "no top bit
characters may be used (eg. pound sign), and no MIME encoding should be
used". So the posting from Elesar failed to follow the requirements for the
group.

What you see as a result is the raw MIME encoding of a Pound sign in ISO
8859-1 (AKA Acorn Latin 1): the character code is 163, or &A3 in hex, and
MIME would encode that as =A3... so you can see where this is going... All
of the information to tell the reader that "=A3" is a MIME sequence has long
gone, possibly stripped out by the moderation system.

And yes, I've posted MIME-encoded stuff to csaa and been caught like this,
too. It's why we still use "45 UKP" or "45 GPB" in usenet posts -- when we
remember to.

(Also, since there's no MIME or encoding data in the original post that made
it to csaa, any news reader which is managing to display a Pound sign is
making some really big assumptions to get there).

-- 
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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