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Re: Undo/Redo

Started byBill Rowe <readnews@sbcglobal.net>
First post2011-05-01 10:22 +0000
Last post2011-05-02 10:52 +0000
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  Re: Undo/Redo Bill Rowe <readnews@sbcglobal.net> - 2011-05-01 10:22 +0000
    Re: Undo/Redo Barak Shoshany <baraksh@gmail.com> - 2011-05-02 10:52 +0000

#2012 — Re: Undo/Redo

FromBill Rowe <readnews@sbcglobal.net>
Date2011-05-01 10:22 +0000
SubjectRe: Undo/Redo
Message-ID<ipjca2$j2i$1@smc.vnet.net>
On 4/30/11 at 5:53 AM, baraksh@gmail.com (Barak Shoshany) wrote:

>This seems to be a recurring subject in this group.

>Mathematica is now at version 8 and there's still no multiple undo
>and redo functionality. I don't understand how such an amazing piece
>of software can lack such a trivial feature. Why isn't Woflram doing
>anything about it? Heck, I'll even write the code for undo/redo
>myself for them for free if they let me. Is there someone at Wolfram
>I can complain on the matter? Perhaps an internet petition is in
>order? What do you think?

Simply put, implementation of undo/redo for something like
Mathematica is far more complex than you suggest.

Undo/redo in a text editor or word processor is manipulating
what I will call static text, i.e., text that is to be
read/printed etc that does not change the state of your machine,
it not executed. This isn't the case for Mathematica.

You really need to think about what you mean by say undo in the
context of Mathematica. What does it mean to undo a computation?
Keep in mind, many mathematical operations have no simple inverse.

Reverting the state of a text document to a previous state is
quite simple compared to doing the same for a Mathematica session.

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FromBarak Shoshany <baraksh@gmail.com>
Date2011-05-02 10:52 +0000
Message-ID<ipm2e0$57m$1@smc.vnet.net>
In reply to#2012
On May 1, 1:22 pm, Bill Rowe <readn...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> On 4/30/11 at 5:53 AM, bara...@gmail.com (Barak Shoshany) wrote:
>
> >This seems to be a recurring subject in this group.
> >Mathematica is now at version 8 and there's still no multiple undo
> >and redo functionality. I don't understand how such an amazing piece
> >of software can lack such a trivial feature. Why isn't Woflram doing
> >anything about it? Heck, I'll even write the code for undo/redo
> >myself for them for free if they let me. Is there someone at Wolfram
> >I can complain on the matter? Perhaps an internet petition is in
> >order? What do you think?
>
> Simply put, implementation of undo/redo for something like
> Mathematica is far more complex than you suggest.
>
> Undo/redo in a text editor or word processor is manipulating
> what I will call static text, i.e., text that is to be
> read/printed etc that does not change the state of your machine,
> it not executed. This isn't the case for Mathematica.
>
> You really need to think about what you mean by say undo in the
> context of Mathematica. What does it mean to undo a computation?
> Keep in mind, many mathematical operations have no simple inverse.
>
> Reverting the state of a text document to a previous state is
> quite simple compared to doing the same for a Mathematica session.

I'm only talking about the case of editing text in input cells. It's
quite simple, really. Before pressing Shift+Enter you're just editing
some text, nothing more complicated than that. And sometimes it might
be a lot of text in a single cell. An undo/redo feature while editing
this text would be very very helpful and would have saved me a lot of
work.

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