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Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals

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First post2025-03-04 09:56 -0600
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  Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 09:56 -0600
    Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-03-04 16:38 +0000

#16764 — Re: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals

Fromolcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-04 09:56 -0600
SubjectRe: DD correctly emulated by HHH --- Totally ignoring invalid rebuttals
Message-ID<vq77s3$1u8bl$2@dont-email.me>
On 3/4/2025 8:47 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 04/03/2025 14:32, olcott wrote:
>> The only valid rebuttal is to show all of the steps of
>> exactly how DD correctly emulated by HHH reaches its
>> own "ret" instruction.
> 
> If that is the only rebuttal you are prepared to accept as valid, 
> congratulations! You have solved the Halting Problem entirely to your 
> own satisfaction.
> 
> If you want to be recognised for your breakthrough, however, it is not 
> enough that nobody should convince you that you're wrong; you have to 
> convince others that you're right,

If they can not show how DD correctly emulated by HHH
reaches its own "ret" instruction this proves that they
lack the technical competence to understand that the
code proves that HHH(DD) is correct to reject its input
as non-terminating.

> and that means explaining exactly why 
> their criticisms are ill-founded. Saying "I'm right and I won't listen 
> to anyone claiming otherwise" lacks explanatory power.
> 
> F'ups set.
> 


-- 
Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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FromRichard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Date2025-03-04 16:38 +0000
Message-ID<vq7a9o$1up3h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#16764
On 04/03/2025 15:56, olcott wrote:
> On 3/4/2025 8:47 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 04/03/2025 14:32, olcott wrote:
>>> The only valid rebuttal is to show all of the steps of
>>> exactly how DD correctly emulated by HHH reaches its
>>> own "ret" instruction.
>>
>> If that is the only rebuttal you are prepared to accept as 
>> valid, congratulations! You have solved the Halting Problem 
>> entirely to your own satisfaction.
>>
>> If you want to be recognised for your breakthrough, however, it 
>> is not enough that nobody should convince you that you're 
>> wrong; you have to convince others that you're right,
> 
> If they can not show how DD correctly emulated by HHH
> reaches its own "ret" instruction this proves that they
> lack the technical competence to understand that the
> code proves that HHH(DD) is correct to reject its input
> as non-terminating.

Unfortunately, declaring that you're right isn't sufficiently 
convincing to win you any recognition. Just saying "X proves Y" 
lacks rigour, and rigour is what you're going to need if you're 
to persuade anyone.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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