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  Re: Telnet "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 19:20 +0800
    Re: Telnet David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-09-10 15:02 +0200
      Re: Telnet "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 22:36 +0800
        Re: Telnet David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-09-10 18:35 +0200
          Re: Telnet "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 01:15 +0800
            Re: Telnet David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2018-09-10 20:05 +0200
              Re: cross-posting "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 03:30 +0800
              Re: Usenet management and NNTP server software "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 04:03 +0800
                Re: Usenet management and NNTP server software "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2018-09-10 23:07 -0500
          Re: Telnet KWills Shill #3 <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 02:21 -0700
            Re: Telnet "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 22:47 +0800
              Re: Telnet "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2018-09-11 10:56 -0500
                Re: Telnet "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 23:57 +0800
      Re: Telnet Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2018-09-12 00:54 +0100
    Re: Telnet TPayne <tpay@nr.net> - 2018-09-10 14:22 -0400
      Re: posts of any value "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2018-09-11 03:17 +0800
    Re: Telnet AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> - 2018-09-11 07:08 +0100

#9214 — Re: Telnet

On 9/10/2018 5:23 PM, KWills Shill #3 wrote:
> 
>> My next spot on the NET is
>>
>> telnet://
> 
> 	Do people still use Telnet? I suppose they could, but why? Most
> stiff is web based now.
>       What is the address for where you will telnet to?
 >
 >> Not when I get to telnet://
 >>
 >
 >       You didn't include an address.
 >

The better alternative is SSH, but Telnet is still fairly useful with 
Linux-based devices, including desktop PCs, router firmware, Arduino and 
Raspberry Pi.

Window$ has Telnet as well, though their users seldom use it.

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#9216

On 10/09/18 13:20, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 9/10/2018 5:23 PM, KWills Shill #3 wrote:
>>
>>> My next spot on the NET is
>>>
>>> telnet://
>>
>>     Do people still use Telnet? I suppose they could, but why? Most
>> stiff is web based now.
>>       What is the address for where you will telnet to?
>>
>>> Not when I get to telnet://
>>>
>>
>>       You didn't include an address.
>>
> 
> The better alternative is SSH, but Telnet is still fairly useful with
> Linux-based devices, including desktop PCs, router firmware, Arduino and
> Raspberry Pi.
> 
> Window$ has Telnet as well, though their users seldom use it.
> 

Would you /please/ stop cross-posting to such inappropriate groups?  If
you have a programming question, post it to comp.programming - if you
want to talk about conspiracy theory, post to alt.conspiracy.  All the
other groups you follow have their own topics.  Make your posts in the
right groups for the subject you are discussing, not random selections!

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#9217

On 9/10/2018 9:02 PM, David Brown wrote:
> 
> Would you /please/ stop cross-posting to such inappropriate groups?  If
> you have a programming question, post it to comp.programming - if you
> want to talk about conspiracy theory, post to alt.conspiracy.  All the
> other groups you follow have their own topics.  Make your posts in the
> right groups for the subject you are discussing, not random selections!

Thought Telnet could be a programming tool.... Anyway, tuning my logic! ;)

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#9221

On 10/09/18 16:36, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 9/10/2018 9:02 PM, David Brown wrote:
>>
>> Would you /please/ stop cross-posting to such inappropriate groups?  If
>> you have a programming question, post it to comp.programming - if you
>> want to talk about conspiracy theory, post to alt.conspiracy.  All the
>> other groups you follow have their own topics.  Make your posts in the
>> right groups for the subject you are discussing, not random selections!
> 
> Thought Telnet could be a programming tool.... Anyway, tuning my logic! ;)
> 

No, telnet is not a programming tool.  Nor is it a conspiracy theory, 
freeware, Ubuntu software, Windows 7 software or Windows 10 software 
(even though there are telnet implementations available freely, Ubuntu 
has both clients and servers in its repositories, and Windows has a crap 
version with its OS).

Look it up on Wikipedia, then don't get back to us about it - anyone 
else who wants to know what Telnet actually is can look it up there too.

When someone makes a post in a Usenet group, it may or may not be on 
topic for that original group.  But it is almost always an annoyance to 
everyone when someone cross-posts a reply to a half-dozen other groups. 
Reply to posts if you have something useful to say, but for the sake of 
the entire Usenet community, stop adding new groups to the replies.

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#9223

On 9/11/2018 12:35 AM, David Brown wrote:
> 
> No, telnet is not a programming tool.  Nor is it a conspiracy theory, 
> freeware, Ubuntu software, Windows 7 software or Windows 10 software 
> (even though there are telnet implementations available freely, Ubuntu 
> has both clients and servers in its repositories, and Windows has a crap 
> version with its OS).

Just FYI: The word "telnet" appeared in a post in alt.conspiracy, and 
hence the reference.

> When someone makes a post in a Usenet group, it may or may not be on 
> topic for that original group.  But it is almost always an annoyance to 
> everyone when someone cross-posts a reply to a half-dozen other groups. 
> Reply to posts if you have something useful to say, but for the sake of 
> the entire Usenet community, stop adding new groups to the replies.

Some topics cross multiple academic disciplines. I believe Usenet was 
originally a news network for universities. Limited cross-posting should 
be expected, when someone wanna reach out for more help from users of 
different backgrounds.

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#9226

On 10/09/18 19:15, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 9/11/2018 12:35 AM, David Brown wrote:
>>
>> No, telnet is not a programming tool.  Nor is it a conspiracy theory, 
>> freeware, Ubuntu software, Windows 7 software or Windows 10 software 
>> (even though there are telnet implementations available freely, Ubuntu 
>> has both clients and servers in its repositories, and Windows has a 
>> crap version with its OS).
> 
> Just FYI: The word "telnet" appeared in a post in alt.conspiracy, and 
> hence the reference.

If the first post was made in that group, keep the replies there.

> 
>> When someone makes a post in a Usenet group, it may or may not be on 
>> topic for that original group.  But it is almost always an annoyance 
>> to everyone when someone cross-posts a reply to a half-dozen other 
>> groups. Reply to posts if you have something useful to say, but for 
>> the sake of the entire Usenet community, stop adding new groups to the 
>> replies.
> 
> Some topics cross multiple academic disciplines. I believe Usenet was 
> originally a news network for universities. Limited cross-posting should 
> be expected, when someone wanna reach out for more help from users of 
> different backgrounds.
> 

Believe what you want - but keep your beliefs to yourself.  Almost every 
post I see from you in various newsgroups is off-topic, and it is 
usually in that group because you have inappropriately cross-posted a reply.

Yes, many posts could reasonably be said to be on-topic in more than one 
group.  No, that does not mean that it is a good idea to cross-post 
them.  And it certainly does not mean that it is a good idea to randomly 
cross-post to a bunch of unrelated groups.  Please stop doing it!

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#9232 — Re: cross-posting

On 9/11/2018 2:05 AM, David Brown wrote:
> 
> Believe what you want - but keep your beliefs to yourself.  Almost every 
> post I see from you in various newsgroups is off-topic, and it is 
> usually in that group because you have inappropriately cross-posted a 
> reply.
> 
> Yes, many posts could reasonably be said to be on-topic in more than one 
> group.  No, that does not mean that it is a good idea to cross-post 
> them.  And it certainly does not mean that it is a good idea to randomly 
> cross-post to a bunch of unrelated groups.  Please stop doing it!
> 

You should stop those politics crap cross-posting first.

See you later in a more interesting discussion should it happen. :)

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#9236 — Re: Usenet management and NNTP server software

On 9/11/2018 2:05 AM, David Brown wrote:
> 
> If the first post was made in that group, keep the replies there.
>  ....
> Believe what you want - but keep your beliefs to yourself.  Almost every 
> post I see from you in various newsgroups is off-topic, and it is 
> usually in that group because you have inappropriately cross-posted a 
> reply.
> 
> Yes, many posts could reasonably be said to be on-topic in more than one 
> group.  No, that does not mean that it is a good idea to cross-post 
> them.  And it certainly does not mean that it is a good idea to randomly 
> cross-post to a bunch of unrelated groups.  Please stop doing it!
> 

Is INN still being updated? I thought all work had stopped. Not sure 
about other NNTP server software.

To manage cross-posting and off-topic posts programmatically, someone 
has to add codes to those old programs?

But Usenet is basically an endangered spiece, compared to web-based 
forums. Even Micro$oft has stopped using Usenet.

That may explain why only politics and their cross-posting are left in 
Usenet!  :)


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/( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you!
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#9240 — Re: Usenet management and NNTP server software

Op 10-09-18 om 15:03 schreef Mr. Man-wai Chang:
> Even Micro$oft has stopped using Usenet.

'Even Microsoft'?
Man you are daft, they never liked the freedom Usenet gives nor have 
they ever managed to write an RFC compatible application for it.

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#9242

On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 18:35:39 +0200, David Brown
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

>On 10/09/18 16:36, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 9/10/2018 9:02 PM, David Brown wrote:
>>>
>>> Would you /please/ stop cross-posting to such inappropriate groups?  If
>>> you have a programming question, post it to comp.programming - if you
>>> want to talk about conspiracy theory, post to alt.conspiracy.  All the
>>> other groups you follow have their own topics.  Make your posts in the
>>> right groups for the subject you are discussing, not random selections!
>> 
>> Thought Telnet could be a programming tool.... Anyway, tuning my logic! ;)
>
>No, telnet is not a programming tool.  Nor is it a conspiracy theory, 
>freeware, Ubuntu software, Windows 7 software or Windows 10 software 
>(even though there are telnet implementations available freely, Ubuntu 
>has both clients and servers in its repositories, and Windows has a crap 
>version with its OS).
>
>Look it up on Wikipedia, then don't get back to us about it - anyone 
>else who wants to know what Telnet actually is can look it up there too.
>
>When someone makes a post in a Usenet group, it may or may not be on 
>topic for that original group.  But it is almost always an annoyance to 
>everyone when someone cross-posts a reply to a half-dozen other groups. 
>Reply to posts if you have something useful to say, but for the sake of 
>the entire Usenet community, stop adding new groups to the replies.

     This started from a former regular of alt.conspiracy posting. He
commented that he would, from now on, only be on telnet://. His post
was sent to alt.conspiracy only. Why Chang is COMPELLED to cross post,
and to do so to groups that are not relevant, is a bit of a mystery.

-- 
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Los Angeles Branch.
Strategic Writer, Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor.
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#9244

On 9/11/2018 5:21 PM, KWills Shill #3 wrote:
> 
>       This started from a former regular of alt.conspiracy posting. He
> commented that he would, from now on, only be on telnet://. His post
> was sent to alt.conspiracy only. Why Chang is COMPELLED to cross post,
> and to do so to groups that are not relevant, is a bit of a mystery.

Meow.... ;)

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#9246

On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 22:47:48 +0800
"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:

> Meow.... ;)

...aaand the troll admits its trolling.  

Cybe R. Wizard
-- 
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hands and hopping when a rock or a club will do." 
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#9247

On 9/11/2018 11:56 PM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 22:47:48 +0800
> "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Meow.... ;)
> 
> ...aaand the troll admits its trolling.
> 
> Cybe R. Wizard
> 

Meow... Meow? :)

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#9248

On 10/09/18 14:02, David Brown wrote:
> On 10/09/18 13:20, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

<snip>

>> Window$ has Telnet as well, though their users seldom use it.
>>
> 
> Would you /please/ stop cross-posting to such inappropriate groups?

No, he won't. Mr Chang is not noted for his community spirit.

ObProgramming:

Today I cobbled together the following code:

#include <math.h>

#define R(x) ((int)(((x) & 0xFF0000UL) >> 16))
#define G(x) ((int)(((x) & 0xFF00UL) >> 8))
#define B(x) ((int)((x) & 0xFFUL))

static double colour_distance(unsigned long ca, unsigned long cb)
{
   int rd = R(ca) - R(cb);
   int gd = G(ca) - G(cb);
   int bd = B(ca) - B(cb);
   return sqrt(rd * rd + gd * gd + bd * bd);
}

(and a driver, of course) to demonstrate that Mark Knight's tennis 
cartoon was not, as people were trying to make out, using colour to 
further racist stereotypes.

It was mildly interesting because, including the driver, it was 36 lines 
long, it compiled correctly first time, and it worked first time. That's 
a long way from being my record, but it's probably the longest this year 
for which I could make that claim.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#9227

On 9/10/2018 7:20 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 9/10/2018 5:23 PM, KWills Shill #3 wrote:
>>
>>> My next spot on the NET is
>>>
>>> telnet://
>>
>>     Do people still use Telnet? I suppose they could, but why? Most
>> stiff is web based now.
>>       What is the address for where you will telnet to?
>  >
>  >> Not when I get to telnet://
>  >>
>  >
>  >       You didn't include an address.
>  >
> 
> The better alternative is SSH, but Telnet is still fairly useful with 
> Linux-based devices, including desktop PCs, router firmware, Arduino and 
> Raspberry Pi.
> 
> Window$ has Telnet as well, though their users seldom use it.
> 

Chang is an annoying idiot who posts nothing of any value. He has been 
nicely asked not to cross-post many times (including more than once by 
me) but simply doesn't listen. Best, IMHO, to just ignore his drivel.

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#9230 — Re: posts of any value

On 9/11/2018 2:22 AM, TPayne wrote:
> 
> Chang is an annoying idiot who posts nothing of any value. He has been 
> nicely asked not to cross-post many times (including more than once by 
> me) but simply doesn't listen. Best, IMHO, to just ignore his drivel.

Computer technology has matured to the point that it's hard for anyone 
to add more value to it. Your post has no value as well. :)

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  / v \  Simplicity is Beauty!
/( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you!
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#9241

On 10/09/2018 12:20, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 9/10/2018 5:23 PM, KWills Shill #3 wrote:
>>
>>> My next spot on the NET is
>>>
>>> telnet://
>>
>>     Do people still use Telnet? I suppose they could, but why? Most
>> stiff is web based now.
>>       What is the address for where you will telnet to?
>  >
>  >> Not when I get to telnet://
>  >>
>  >
>  >       You didn't include an address.
>  >
> 
> The better alternative is SSH, but Telnet is still fairly useful with 
> Linux-based devices, including desktop PCs, router firmware, Arduino and 
> Raspberry Pi.
> 
> Window$ has Telnet as well, though their users seldom use it.

I still use Telnet for old time bulletin boards.

I was online a long time ago when direct dial BBS were king. Some of 
them have moved onto the internet and you can telnet into them.

It is a bit niche but it is still valid.

Andy

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