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| Started by | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2017-12-18 00:05 +0800 |
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[CNN] Word ban at CDC includes 'vulnerable,' 'fetus,' 'transgender' "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-12-18 00:05 +0800
Re: [CNN] Word ban at CDC includes 'vulnerable,' 'fetus,' 'transgender' "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesbabes@std-girls.com> - 2017-12-19 06:54 -0800
Re:No, HHS Did Not 'Ban Words' "BurfordTJustice" <burford/associate@uk.MI15> - 2017-12-19 12:32 -0500
| From | "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2017-12-18 00:05 +0800 |
| Subject | [CNN] Word ban at CDC includes 'vulnerable,' 'fetus,' 'transgender' |
| Message-ID | <p164jc$uli$1@toylet.eternal-september.org> |
[CNN] Word ban at CDC includes 'vulnerable,' 'fetus,' 'transgender' Full story: <http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/16/health/cdc-banned-words/index.html> (CNN)Officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the very agency tasked with saving and protecting the lives of the most vulnerable, are now under order by the Trump administration to stop using words including "vulnerable" in 2018 budget documents, according to The Washington Post. In a 90-minute briefing on Thursday, policy analysts at the nation's leading public health institute were presented with the menu of seven banned words, an analyst told the paper. On the list: "diversity," "fetus," "transgender," "vulnerable," "entitlement," "science-based" and "evidence-based." Alternative word choices reportedly were presented in some cases. For instance, in lieu of "evidence-based" or "science-based," an analyst might say, "CDC bases its recommendations on science in consideration with community standards and wishes," the source said. But those working on the Zika virus's effect on developing fetuses may be at a loss for appropriate -- or acceptable -- words. The reaction in the room was "incredulous," the longtime CDC analyst told the Post. "It was very much, 'Are you serious? Are you kidding?'" .... more ..... -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa
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| From | "Colonel Edmund J. Burke" <burkesbabes@std-girls.com> |
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| Date | 2017-12-19 06:54 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <HK9_B.5270$247.5105@fx40.iad> |
| In reply to | #8218 |
On 12/17/2017 8:05 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: > [CNN] Word ban at CDC includes 'vulnerable,' 'fetus,' 'transgender' > Full story: <http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/16/health/cdc-banned-words/index.html> > > (CNN)Officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the very agency tasked with saving and protecting the lives of the most vulnerable, are now under order by the Trump administration to stop using words including "vulnerable" in 2018 budget documents, according to The Washington Post. > > In a 90-minute briefing on Thursday, policy analysts at the nation's leading public health institute were presented with the menu of seven banned words, an analyst told the paper. On the list: "diversity," "fetus," "transgender," "vulnerable," "entitlement," "science-based" and "evidence-based." > > Alternative word choices reportedly were presented in some cases. For instance, in lieu of "evidence-based" or "science-based," an analyst might say, "CDC bases its recommendations on science in consideration with community standards and wishes," the source said. But those working on the Zika virus's effect on developing fetuses may be at a loss for appropriate -- or acceptable -- words. > > The reaction in the room was "incredulous," the longtime CDC analyst told the Post. "It was very much, 'Are you serious? Are you kidding?'" > > .... more ..... > Why the fuck should I care?
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| From | "BurfordTJustice" <burford/associate@uk.MI15> |
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| Date | 2017-12-19 12:32 -0500 |
| Subject | Re:No, HHS Did Not 'Ban Words' |
| Message-ID | <p1bieo$r6i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8218 |
"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote in message news:p164jc$uli$1@toylet.eternal-september.org... No, HHS Did Not 'Ban Words' I knew this was false the minute I heard it and was waiting for the inevitable explanation/correction which wouldn't get a tenth of the attention of the original story. But check how far the crazy has spread and is still spreading. The Trump administration is prohibiting officials at the nation's top public health agency from using a list of seven words or phrases - including "fetus" and "transgender" - in official documents being prepared for next year's budget. The story goes on to complicate this claim a little bit, noting, for instance, some distinctions between terms that were supposedly flagged as prohibited in draft budget documents and others regarding which a prohibition "had been conveyed verbally" in a meeting among career officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But the basic claim of the story is that HHS is telling its employees they're not allowed to use seven words or terms-"vulnerable," "entitlement," "diversity," "transgender," "fetus," "evidence-based" and "science-based." Naturally, this assertion has caused a big stir, setting loose everything from charges of censorship to worries that the CDC won't be able to help victims of terrible diseases if they can't communicate openly about their work. I was pretty startled by the story myself, and it sent me reaching out to a number of officials at HHS and its sub-agencies for an explanation. These conversations have left me persuaded that the impression created by the Post's story is not accurate. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/454752/cdc-did-not-ban-words-yuval-levin
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