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  How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 18:48 +0800
    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-01-30 11:45 +0000
      Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 21:21 +0800
        Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 21:23 +0800
        Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-30 14:39 +0100
          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 21:42 +0800
          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-30 13:49 +0000
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 21:58 +0800
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-30 15:34 +0100
              [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 22:41 +0800
                Re: [OT] David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-30 16:03 +0100
                  Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 23:33 +0800
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Kaz Kylheku <221-501-9011@kylheku.com> - 2017-01-30 16:34 +0000
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 00:44 +0800
          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2017-01-30 09:11 -0500
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 22:18 +0800
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-31 02:31 +0000
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 23:09 +0800
                  Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-03 11:50 +0000
                    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 20:14 +0800
                      Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-04 11:05 +0000
                        Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 19:55 +0800
                          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-04 12:43 +0000
                            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 20:54 +0800
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2017-01-30 12:35 -0200
              [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 22:43 +0800
              Re: US education "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 22:48 +0800
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-30 16:01 +0100
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-01-30 10:09 -0500
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-30 16:12 +0100
                  Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-01-30 10:27 -0500
                  Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-30 15:29 +0000
                    rjh@cpax.org.uk burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-01-30 10:31 -0500
                      Re: rjh@cpax.org.uk Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-30 15:33 +0000
                        Re: rjh@cpax.org.uk burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-01-30 10:35 -0500
                    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-31 13:03 +0100
          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-01-30 09:23 -0500
            Re: What exactly is Muslim? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 22:49 +0800
              Re: What exactly is Muslim? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-31 02:31 +0000
                Re: What exactly is Muslim? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-31 07:53 +0000
                  Re: What exactly is Muslim? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-31 08:01 +0000
                  Re: What exactly is Muslim? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-31 12:24 +0000
                    Re: What exactly is Muslim? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-31 13:34 +0000
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-30 16:09 +0100
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-30 15:26 +0000
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-01-30 10:27 -0500
              Re: Do Muslim and Islamic practice incest? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 23:49 +0800
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-30 15:32 +0000
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 23:57 +0800
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-31 13:07 +0100
          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Kaz Kylheku <221-501-9011@kylheku.com> - 2017-01-30 16:32 +0000
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 00:35 +0800
          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-31 02:31 +0000
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2017-01-31 10:01 +0000
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-31 12:24 +0000
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2017-01-31 12:36 +0000
                  Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-03 11:50 +0000
                    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-03 12:09 +0000
                      Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-04 02:39 +0000
                        Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-04 02:47 +0000
                          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-04 11:05 +0000
                    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2017-02-03 14:11 +0000
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-01-31 08:13 -0500
    How many Jew programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-30 15:25 -0600
    How many Jew programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-30 15:26 -0600
    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 04:37 -0600
      Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 23:15 +0800
        Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 04:18 -0600
          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 19:37 +0800
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-01 14:13 +0100
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 21:26 +0800
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-01 16:39 +0100
                  Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 01:04 +0800
                    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-02 11:32 +0100
                      Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 19:18 +0800
                        Re: [OT]How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2017-02-02 12:51 -0200
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 03:37 -0600
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2017-02-02 11:32 -0200
                Re: [OT]How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2017-02-02 12:45 -0200
                  Re: [OT]How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-02-02 14:57 -0500
                    Re: [OT] They are all Indians... one face, one voice? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 23:01 +0800
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 03:37 -0600
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 18:25 +0800
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 04:56 -0600
                  Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 19:20 +0800
                    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 04:18 -0600
                      Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 18:51 +0800
                        Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 04:01 -0600
                          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 18:25 +0800
                            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 17:33 -0600

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#7345 — How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies?

Should we panic? Should we be scared? :)

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#7346

On 30/01/2017 10:48, Mr. Man-wai Chang asked an interesting question!

Then asked ....
>
> Should we panic?

No, there's no need for panic.

 >  Should we be scared? :)

Please define 'we'.

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#7347

On 1/30/2017 7:45 PM, David B. wrote:
>
> No, there's no need for panic.
>
> Please define 'we'.

You never knew whether these Mulism programmers secretly inserted and 
planted dangerous stuff into the software we are using .... :)

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#7348

On 1/30/2017 9:21 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>
> You never knew whether these Mulism programmers secretly inserted and
> planted dangerous stuff into the software we are using .... :)

Trojan horses! :)

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#7349

On 30/01/17 14:21, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 1/30/2017 7:45 PM, David B. wrote:
>>
>> No, there's no need for panic.
>>
>> Please define 'we'.
> 
> You never knew whether these Mulism programmers secretly inserted and
> planted dangerous stuff into the software we are using .... :)
> 

Why would someone's religion have any influence on that?

The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will stop
programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs, and thus companies
like Google won't be able to get the best employees to do the work.

But feel free to panic if you want - you can run around spouting
whatever daft thoughts come into the empty space between your ears.
It's not likely to make your posts any less rational.

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#7350

On 1/30/2017 9:39 PM, David Brown wrote:
>>
>> You never knew whether these Mulism programmers secretly inserted and
>> planted dangerous stuff into the software we are using .... :)
>>
>
> Why would someone's religion have any influence on that?
>
> The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will stop
> programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs, and thus companies
> like Google won't be able to get the best employees to do the work.

It failed to explain why ISIS arose and successfully attacked a few 
buildings in US soil!

 > But feel free to panic if you want - you can run around spouting
 > whatever daft thoughts come into the empty space between your ears.
 > It's not likely to make your posts any less rational.

What's even more horrifying is that Muslim DNA, if it's evil, is now 
everywhere and have mixed with other races' DNA! :)

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#7351

On 30/01/17 13:39, David Brown wrote:
<snip>
>
> The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will stop
> programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs,

Donald Trump has myopia? I hadn't heard that.

> and thus companies
> like Google won't be able to get the best employees to do the work.

Is this the same employees that broke the Google Groups search engine?

> But feel free to panic if you want

Ta. :-)

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#7352

On 1/30/2017 9:49 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 30/01/17 13:39, David Brown wrote:
> <snip>
>>
>> The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will stop
>> programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs,
>
> Donald Trump has myopia? I hadn't heard that.

If and only if Muslim minds were proven dangerous and offensive, then 
whatever programs they wrote and distributed were also dangerous.

I think Mr. Trump needed to ditch all their stuff ASAP inside US soil, 
if and only if he meant serious business against Muslims. :)

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#7356

On 30/01/17 14:49, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 30/01/17 13:39, David Brown wrote:
> <snip>
>>
>> The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will stop
>> programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs,
> 
> Donald Trump has myopia? I hadn't heard that.

Maybe it's just that his hamster falls in front of his eyes...

> 
>> and thus companies
>> like Google won't be able to get the best employees to do the work.
> 
> Is this the same employees that broke the Google Groups search engine?
> 
>> But feel free to panic if you want
> 
> Ta. :-)
> 

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#7358 — [OT]

On 1/30/2017 10:34 PM, David Brown wrote:
>>
>> Donald Trump has myopia? I hadn't heard that.
>
> Maybe it's just that his hamster falls in front of his eyes...

Are you a Muslim? Do you have Indian or Arabian DNA? :)

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/( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you!
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#7363 — Re: [OT]

On 30/01/17 15:41, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 1/30/2017 10:34 PM, David Brown wrote:
>>>
>>> Donald Trump has myopia? I hadn't heard that.
>>
>> Maybe it's just that his hamster falls in front of his eyes...
> 
> Are you a Muslim? Do you have Indian or Arabian DNA? :)
> 

Why would that be relevant?  Do you think someone has to be Muslim to
dislike religious typecasting and intolerance?  Does someone have to be
Indian to understand the idiocy of Trump's policies here?  Do I have to
have Arabian DNA to know that you are haven't a clue what you are
talking about?

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#7373 — Re: [OT]

On 1/30/2017 11:03 PM, David Brown wrote:
>
> Why would that be relevant?  Do you think someone has to be Muslim to
> dislike religious typecasting and intolerance?  Does someone have to be
> Indian to understand the idiocy of Trump's policies here?  Do I have to
> have Arabian DNA to know that you are haven't a clue what you are
> talking about?

Just curious... A person's behavior and belief might be affected by 
his/her DNA. :)

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#7379

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On 2017-01-30, Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
> On 30/01/17 13:39, David Brown wrote:
><snip>
>>
>> The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will stop
>> programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs,
>
> Donald Trump has myopia? I hadn't heard that.
>
>> and thus companies
>> like Google won't be able to get the best employees to do the work.
>
> Is this the same employees that broke the Google Groups search engine?

Or who decided that when people update to Android 6, they will enjoy
having to swipe *and* enter a PIN/pattern to unlock the device?

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#7381

On 1/31/2017 12:34 AM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
 >
> Or who decided that when people update to Android 6, they will enjoy
> having to swipe *and* enter a PIN/pattern to unlock the device?

Definitely someone important and close to Google that requested this 
feature.... same rule with Micro$oft Window$ and Apple IOS.

Do I need Cortana and VR? Definitely no. :)

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#7353

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:39:55 +0100, David Brown wrote:

>On 30/01/17 14:21, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 1/30/2017 7:45 PM, David B. wrote:
>>>
>>> No, there's no need for panic.
>>>
>>> Please define 'we'.
>> 
>> You never knew whether these Mulism programmers secretly inserted and
>> planted dangerous stuff into the software we are using .... :)
>> 
>
>Why would someone's religion have any influence on that?
>
>The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will stop
>programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs, and thus companies
>like Google won't be able to get the best employees to do the work.

You seem to assume the best programmers are not in the USA.

If your assumption is valid, are you willing to cede yet another
industry to "foreigners?"

Why do you think US education isn't turning out first-class
programmers?

If it isn't, do you favor a permanent condition where the best
programmers are not in the USA?


>But feel free to panic if you want - you can run around spouting
>whatever daft thoughts come into the empty space between your ears.
>It's not likely to make your posts any less rational.

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#7354

On 1/30/2017 10:11 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>
> You seem to assume the best programmers are not in the USA.
>
> If your assumption is valid, are you willing to cede yet another
> industry to "foreigners?"

To be fair, every country should use its own people do develop software, 
instead of over-trusting US programs. :)

> Why do you think US education isn't turning out first-class
> programmers?
>
> If it isn't, do you favor a permanent condition where the best
> programmers are not in the USA?

Programming is just language translation. There is no magic about it. To 
solve problems, you need to figure out algorithms first, before they are 
translated into computer instructions. Algorithms are the key, not 
programmers.

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#7386

"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
news:o6nht0$d98$1@dont-email.me Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:18:48 GMT in
alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On 1/30/2017 10:11 PM, Wally W. wrote:
>>
>> You seem to assume the best programmers are not in the USA.
>>
>> If your assumption is valid, are you willing to cede yet another
>> industry to "foreigners?"
> 
> To be fair, every country should use its own people do develop
> software, instead of over-trusting US programs. :)
> 
>> Why do you think US education isn't turning out first-class
>> programmers?
>>
>> If it isn't, do you favor a permanent condition where the best
>> programmers are not in the USA?
> 
> Programming is just language translation. There is no magic about
> it. To solve problems, you need to figure out algorithms first,
> before they are translated into computer instructions. Algorithms
> are the key, not programmers.

You're an idiot. Unless you're porting a program from one language to 
another, you aren't really doing much language translation when you 
write software, unless you're using a very very broad brush to claim 
that the act of writing a program to have the computer perform a 
specific task is simply a matter of translating our language to it's 
own? Quite a stretch if that's what your thinking. Incidently, 
programmers tend to write a lot of algorithms in the process of 
developing whatever application their writing.

 



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#7398

On 1/31/2017 10:31 AM, Diesel wrote:
> You're an idiot. Unless you're porting a program from one language to
> another, you aren't really doing much language translation when you
> write software, unless you're using a very very broad brush to claim
> that the act of writing a program to have the computer perform a
> specific task is simply a matter of translating our language to it's
> own? Quite a stretch if that's what your thinking.

Most programming languages are indeed using English words. But the way 
each programming language define an English word is different from each 
others, not to mention the parameters.

 > Incidently, programmers tend to write a lot of algorithms
 > in the process of developing whatever application their
 > writing.

True for business applications. I don't know the education of 
programmers you knew, but not all of them are good in mathematics. :)

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#7429

"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
news:o6q98a$4h7$2@dont-email.me Tue, 31 Jan 2017 15:09:39 GMT in
alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On 1/31/2017 10:31 AM, Diesel wrote:
>> You're an idiot. Unless you're porting a program from one
>> language to another, you aren't really doing much language
>> translation when you write software, unless you're using a very
>> very broad brush to claim that the act of writing a program to
>> have the computer perform a specific task is simply a matter of
>> translating our language to it's own? Quite a stretch if that's
>> what your thinking. 
> 
> Most programming languages are indeed using English words. But the
> way each programming language define an English word is different
> from each others, not to mention the parameters.

So you're writing from your arse, essentially.
 
> > Incidently, programmers tend to write a lot of algorithms
> > in the process of developing whatever application their
> > writing.
> 
> True for business applications. I don't know the education of 
> programmers you knew, but not all of them are good in mathematics.
> :) 

True for business applications? Only business applications? What 
experience writing code do you personally have?


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#7431

On 2/3/2017 7:50 PM, Diesel wrote:
>
> So you're writing from your arse, essentially.
>
> True for business applications? Only business applications? What
> experience writing code do you personally have?

It's not difficult to find out more about me via internet. Not sure 
about you.

How many programs have you ever written then? You don't seem to know 
much about programming languages.

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