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Re: Why study the Bible? What can we learn?

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  Re: Why study the Bible? What can we learn? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 18:26 +0800
    Re: Why study the Bible? What can we learn? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 04:08 -0800
      Re: Why study the Bible? What can we learn? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 02:31 +0800
        Re: Why study the Bible? What can we learn? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 10:38 -0800
          Re: Why study the Bible? What can we learn? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 02:45 +0800
            Re: Why study the Bible? What can we learn? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 10:50 -0800
              Re: Why study the Bible? What can we learn? "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 11:19 -0800
                [OT] Walking away.... "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 23:00 +0800
                  Re: [OT] Walking away.... "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 07:16 -0800
                    Re: [OT] Walking away.... Don't chase me... :) "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 23:38 +0800

#7411 — Re: Why study the Bible? What can we learn?

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-02 18:26 +0800
SubjectRe: Why study the Bible? What can we learn?
Message-ID<o6v1dv$cmv$2@dont-email.me>
On 2/2/2017 6:58 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> What is a Christian teaching like?  It's all summed up from the
> realization:
> ...
> A life of knowing Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord awaits you.  It
> begins with the first step.

The Holy Bible can just be treated as an interesting story book if not 
fairy tales. Readers do NOT need to believe in anything.

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#7416

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-02 04:08 -0800
Message-ID<7a61d2c3-3788-4992-9bbd-4a61124011e4@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#7411
The decision to reject the free offer of salvation by Jesus Christ
comes with a price tag...

http://biblehub.com/kjv/john/3-18.htm
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned:
but he that believeth not is condemned already,
because he hath not believed in the name of
the only begotten Son of God.

...it leaves you under condemnation, to be cast into eternal Hellfire
after you leave this world.

There's no coming back from that.  No do overs.  It's why God sent
us Jesus ... to set us free from that end.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#7420

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-03 02:31 +0800
Message-ID<o6vtqr$8t4$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7416
On 2/2/2017 8:08 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> The decision to reject the free offer of salvation by Jesus Christ
> comes with a price tag...
>

Stories usually have good lessons for kids to learn. That's all.

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#7421

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-02 10:38 -0800
Message-ID<8a70eac1-fe64-42a6-9d28-d7a71abd8015@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#7420
On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 1:31:34 PM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 2/2/2017 8:08 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > The decision to reject the free offer of salvation by Jesus Christ
> > comes with a price tag...
> 
> Stories usually have good lessons for kids to learn. That's all.

Stories do usually have good lessons for kids to learn from.  They
are told to alter the way they think in the future, having learned
from that lesson, so they do something different than might otherwise
seem obvious or natural.

The Bible definitely tells a story, and the lessons contained therein
are also for all of us learn from it, and then alter our future
actions.

You can stand in summary judgment of the Bible's contents, Mr. Man-wai
Chang.  That decision will cost you your eternal soul after you leave
this world.  Or, you can read it and study it and seek to know for
yourself if it's real.  If you seek with a true heart's intent, you
will come to find out it is real, the story it tells is the fall of
man, and of man's redemption through Jesus Christ.  And it will be
that knowledge which will set you free from the judgment of sin from
the fall.

Don't be so quick to judge, Mr. Man-wai Chang.  Be quick to learn,
and prove out what I'm telling you for yourself ... because I'm not
the only one out there telling you these things.  And all of us are
telling you them for a reason.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#7422

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-03 02:45 +0800
Message-ID<o6vulo$fin$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7421
On 2/3/2017 2:38 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>
> Don't be so quick to judge, Mr. Man-wai Chang.  Be quick to learn,
> and prove out what I'm telling you for yourself ... because I'm not
> the only one out there telling you these things.  And all of us are
> telling you them for a reason.

Serving God, serving the Holy Church, serving your chapels, and reading 
stories are completely different things. :)

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#7423

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-02 10:50 -0800
Message-ID<9204cc70-9187-411e-9d22-07074069e716@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#7422
On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 1:45:55 PM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 2/3/2017 2:38 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >
> > Don't be so quick to judge, Mr. Man-wai Chang.  Be quick to learn,
> > and prove out what I'm telling you for yourself ... because I'm not
> > the only one out there telling you these things.  And all of us are
> > telling you them for a reason.
> 
> Serving God, serving the Holy Church, serving your chapels, and reading 
> stories are completely different things. :)

The Bible is not a conventional story.  It is given to man by God's own
Holy Spirit.  There is one author from beginning to end, but it is
written through many men by the guidance of His Holy Spirit.

We are called to serve God.  We are called to be with other believers.
That can be in a formal church, or an informal church, but it is
Jesus Himself who had John send letters to the /churches/ in the book
of Revelation.

If you read the Bible, and seek the truth, God will guide you Himself
in your own life and in your own understanding to those things He has
planned for you.  It's the influence and guidance of His Holy Spirit
at work for all who believe in Him.

It's all there before you, Mr. Main-wai Chang.  Seek after God.  Seek
to learn about God.  If you set your honest and true sights on this
end, God Himself will make sure you find it.

Do not seek after men.  And do not seek after a specific church.
Seek after God, and let Him move in your life.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#7424

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-02 11:19 -0800
Message-ID<a6da130c-7e8e-4ae1-b7c7-3ce43b6abe69@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#7423
On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 1:50:46 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 1:45:55 PM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> > On 2/3/2017 2:38 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > >
> > > Don't be so quick to judge, Mr. Man-wai Chang.  Be quick to learn,
> > > and prove out what I'm telling you for yourself ... because I'm not
> > > the only one out there telling you these things.  And all of us are
> > > telling you them for a reason.
> > 
> > Serving God, serving the Holy Church, serving your chapels, and reading 
> > stories are completely different things. :)
> 
> The Bible is not a conventional story.  It is given to man by God's own
> Holy Spirit.  There is one author from beginning to end, but it is
> written through many men by the guidance of His Holy Spirit.
> 
> We are called to serve God.  We are called to be with other believers.
> That can be in a formal church, or an informal church, but it is
> Jesus Himself who had John send letters to the /churches/ in the book
> of Revelation.
> 
> If you read the Bible, and seek the truth, God will guide you Himself
> in your own life and in your own understanding to those things He has
> planned for you.  It's the influence and guidance of His Holy Spirit
> at work for all who believe in Him.
> 
> It's all there before you, Mr. Main-wai Chang.  Seek after God.  Seek
> to learn about God.  If you set your honest and true sights on this
> end, God Himself will make sure you find it.
> 
> Do not seek after men.  And do not seek after a specific church.
> Seek after God, and let Him move in your life.

It is important, by the way, if you can see the corruption in the
church, to learn from God rightly, and seek after His Holy Spirit
in your life rightly, and enter into the church and point everybody
there by your guidance, your influence, your teaching, toward that
which they should be heading toward, and away from that which is
serving that corruption in the church.

God seeks those who will serve Him rightly.  He seeks those who
will serve Him rightly to stand up in their communities and do so.

Our accountability is unto Him, not unto our churches, though we
also have some accountability to our fellow man, but with regards
to who we should learn from first, who we should follow first,
who we should look to first for our right and proper understanding,
it is always God.

God needs men and women of honor and faith in Jesus Christ, those
who are born again and seeking after His Holy Spirit, to rise up
in this world and teach the people everywhere about His Kingdom,
about eternity, about sin, about judgment upon sin, about eternal
damnation and Hellfire, and how to escape that judgment through,
and only through, Jesus Christ.

Why only Jesus?  Because He is the only man in history, born of
women, who has not had any sin.  Because He had no sin, He could
take our sin and transfer it to Himself.  It's part of the system
seen in Judaism with the animal sacrifices.  Those were temporary
offerings of blood for their sin, but must be renewed regularly
because they do not endure.  But because Christ is eternal, His
one-time offering endures eternally for all who will believe in
Him.

-----
Set your sights on Him, learn of Him rightly, and then go out and
teach others rightly.  Guide them away from hypocrisy.  Guide them
toward greater service and increasing holiness, so that they may
be powerful and effective Ambassadors of Christ here in this world.

Eternal human souls are on the line.  Our action must be toward His
Kingdom, and not focused upon other things, though we will still do
other things in this world, they just cannot be our primary focus,
but only a means to an end, which is reaching out to the lost so
they can be saved.

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#7433 — [OT] Walking away....

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-03 23:00 +0800
Subject[OT] Walking away....
Message-ID<o725qv$hir$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7424
On 2/3/2017 3:19 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 >
 > ... preaching ...

Walking away... :)

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#7435 — Re: [OT] Walking away....

From"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-03 07:16 -0800
SubjectRe: [OT] Walking away....
Message-ID<693c11ba-816c-4dfe-8109-28a78ff103bf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#7433
On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 10:00:28 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 2/3/2017 3:19 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>  >
>  > ... preaching ...
> 
> Walking away... :)

See my reply on the other thread:

    https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.c/f66LQQwffGs/xYwK3JBjAgAJ

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

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#7436 — Re: [OT] Walking away.... Don't chase me... :)

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2017-02-03 23:38 +0800
SubjectRe: [OT] Walking away.... Don't chase me... :)
Message-ID<o7281e$qgl$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7435
Walking away.... Don't chase me... :)

On 2/3/2017 11:16 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 10:00:28 AM UTC-5, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 2/3/2017 3:19 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>  >
>>  > ... preaching ...
>>
>> Walking away... :)
>
> See my reply on the other thread:
>
>     https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.lang.c/f66LQQwffGs/xYwK3JBjAgAJ



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