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  How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 18:48 +0800
    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "David B." <DavidB@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2017-01-30 11:45 +0000
      Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 21:21 +0800
        Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 21:23 +0800
        Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-30 14:39 +0100
          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 21:42 +0800
          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-30 13:49 +0000
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 21:58 +0800
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-30 15:34 +0100
              [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 22:41 +0800
                Re: [OT] David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-30 16:03 +0100
                  Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 23:33 +0800
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Kaz Kylheku <221-501-9011@kylheku.com> - 2017-01-30 16:34 +0000
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 00:44 +0800
          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Wally W. <ww84wa@aim.com> - 2017-01-30 09:11 -0500
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 22:18 +0800
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-31 02:31 +0000
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 23:09 +0800
                  Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-03 11:50 +0000
                    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 20:14 +0800
                      Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-04 11:05 +0000
                        Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 19:55 +0800
                          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-04 12:43 +0000
                            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 20:54 +0800
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2017-01-30 12:35 -0200
              [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 22:43 +0800
              Re: US education "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 22:48 +0800
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-30 16:01 +0100
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-01-30 10:09 -0500
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-30 16:12 +0100
                  Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-01-30 10:27 -0500
                  Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-30 15:29 +0000
                    rjh@cpax.org.uk burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-01-30 10:31 -0500
                      Re: rjh@cpax.org.uk Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-30 15:33 +0000
                        Re: rjh@cpax.org.uk burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-01-30 10:35 -0500
                    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-31 13:03 +0100
          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-01-30 09:23 -0500
            Re: What exactly is Muslim? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 22:49 +0800
              Re: What exactly is Muslim? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-31 02:31 +0000
                Re: What exactly is Muslim? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-31 07:53 +0000
                  Re: What exactly is Muslim? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-31 08:01 +0000
                  Re: What exactly is Muslim? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-31 12:24 +0000
                    Re: What exactly is Muslim? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-31 13:34 +0000
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-30 16:09 +0100
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-30 15:26 +0000
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-01-30 10:27 -0500
              Re: Do Muslim and Islamic practice incest? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 23:49 +0800
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-01-30 15:32 +0000
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-30 23:57 +0800
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-01-31 13:07 +0100
          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Kaz Kylheku <221-501-9011@kylheku.com> - 2017-01-30 16:32 +0000
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 00:35 +0800
          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-31 02:31 +0000
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2017-01-31 10:01 +0000
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-01-31 12:24 +0000
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2017-01-31 12:36 +0000
                  Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-03 11:50 +0000
                    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-03 12:09 +0000
                      Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-04 02:39 +0000
                        Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2017-02-04 02:47 +0000
                          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Diesel <me@privacy.net> - 2017-02-04 11:05 +0000
                    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> - 2017-02-03 14:11 +0000
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-01-31 08:13 -0500
    How many Jew programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-30 15:25 -0600
    How many Jew programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2017-01-30 15:26 -0600
    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 04:37 -0600
      Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-01-31 23:15 +0800
        Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 04:18 -0600
          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 19:37 +0800
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-01 14:13 +0100
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-01 21:26 +0800
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-01 16:39 +0100
                  Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 01:04 +0800
                    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2017-02-02 11:32 +0100
                      Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 19:18 +0800
                        Re: [OT]How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2017-02-02 12:51 -0200
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 03:37 -0600
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2017-02-02 11:32 -0200
                Re: [OT]How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2017-02-02 12:45 -0200
                  Re: [OT]How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@tues.uk> - 2017-02-02 14:57 -0500
                    Re: [OT] They are all Indians... one face, one voice? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 23:01 +0800
            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 03:37 -0600
              Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 18:25 +0800
                Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 04:56 -0600
                  Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-02 19:20 +0800
                    Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 04:18 -0600
                      Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-03 18:51 +0800
                        Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 04:01 -0600
                          Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 18:25 +0800
                            Re: How many Muslim programmers are working for Google and US tech companies? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2017-02-04 17:33 -0600

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#7388 — Re: What exactly is Muslim?

On 31/01/17 07:53, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> His claim (that "muslim is not a religion") is correct, but nobody was
> making that claim.

That is: nobody tried to claim that muslim is a religion, and so Mr 
burfordTjustice was fighting a non-battle when he claimed that it isn't.

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#7393 — Re: What exactly is Muslim?

Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> news:o6pflt$djo$1@dont-email.me
Tue, 31 Jan 2017 07:53:08 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On 31/01/17 02:31, Diesel wrote:
>> "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
>> news:o6njmc$kle$2@dont- email.me Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:49:24 GMT in
>> alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 
>>
>>> On 1/30/2017 10:23 PM, burfordTjustice wrote:
>>>>
>>>> muslim is not a religion. So that pretty much
>>>> makes you "short-sighted bigoted half-wit"
>>>
>>> Then what is it? Military doctrine?
>>>
>>
>> ROFL. BTJ is right.
> 
> His claim (that "muslim is not a religion") is correct, but nobody
> was making that claim. Mr burfordTjustice set up a straw-man so
> that he could knock it down.

It was implied with the question raised by Chang.
 
>> Muslim isn't a religion. It's a person who follows
>> a religion known as Islam.
> 
> That has already been pointed out in this thread.

That's nice, do consider, I may not have read the entire thread yet, 
and, I might not have access to the entire thread depending on which 
newsgroup I'm reading it from. Aside from any filtering I may be 
doing, I see a total of four posts on this thread in 
alt.comp.freeware. Changs, Mine, two replies from you. I don't 
hangout in alt.conspiracy or comp.programming, so I was unaware of 
whatever replies may exist that are staying within those newsgroups 
only.
 



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#7397 — Re: What exactly is Muslim?

On 31/01/17 12:24, Diesel wrote:
> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> news:o6pflt$djo$1@dont-email.me
> Tue, 31 Jan 2017 07:53:08 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>
>> On 31/01/17 02:31, Diesel wrote:
>>> "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
>>> news:o6njmc$kle$2@dont- email.me Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:49:24 GMT in
>>> alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/30/2017 10:23 PM, burfordTjustice wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> muslim is not a religion. So that pretty much
>>>>> makes you "short-sighted bigoted half-wit"
>>>>
>>>> Then what is it? Military doctrine?
>>>>
>>>
>>> ROFL. BTJ is right.
>>
>> His claim (that "muslim is not a religion") is correct, but nobody
>> was making that claim. Mr burfordTjustice set up a straw-man so
>> that he could knock it down.
>
> It was implied with the question raised by Chang.

That question was raised /after/ Mr burfordTjustice set up his straw-man.

>>> Muslim isn't a religion. It's a person who follows
>>> a religion known as Islam.
>>
>> That has already been pointed out in this thread.
>
> That's nice, do consider, I may not have read the entire thread yet,
> and, I might not have access to the entire thread depending on which
> newsgroup I'm reading it from.

Indeed. That's why you might not have known it, which is why I told you.

> Aside from any filtering I may be
> doing, I see a total of four posts on this thread in
> alt.comp.freeware. Changs, Mine, two replies from you.

Ah, then you didn't see the original exchange between Mr bufordTjustice 
and David Brown. No wonder we are at cross-purposes! Nobody's fault, by 
the sound of it - just one of those things.

> I don't
> hangout in alt.conspiracy or comp.programming, so I was unaware of
> whatever replies may exist that are staying within those newsgroups
> only.

Fair enough. No lasting harm done, I think.

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#7365

On 30/01/17 15:23, burfordTjustice wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:39:55 +0100
> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
> 
>> On 30/01/17 14:21, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>> On 1/30/2017 7:45 PM, David B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No, there's no need for panic.
>>>>
>>>> Please define 'we'.
>>>
>>> You never knew whether these Mulism programmers secretly inserted
>>> and planted dangerous stuff into the software we are using .... :)
>>>
>>
>> Why would someone's religion have any influence on that?
>>
>> The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will stop
>> programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs, and thus companies
>> like Google won't be able to get the best employees to do the work.
>>
>> But feel free to panic if you want - you can run around spouting
>> whatever daft thoughts come into the empty space between your ears.
>> It's not likely to make your posts any less rational.
>>
> 
> muslim is not a religion. So that pretty much
> makes you "short-sighted bigoted half-wit"
> 

You are correct - "muslim" is not a religion.  The name of the religion
in question is "Islam", and "Muslim" is a term for practitioners of the
Islamic religion.  Discrimination against Muslims is therefore religious
discrimination.

What did /you/ think "Muslim" meant?

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#7367

On 30/01/17 15:09, David Brown wrote:
> On 30/01/17 15:23, burfordTjustice wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:39:55 +0100
>> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
>>
>>> On 30/01/17 14:21, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>> On 1/30/2017 7:45 PM, David B. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No, there's no need for panic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please define 'we'.
>>>>
>>>> You never knew whether these Mulism programmers secretly inserted
>>>> and planted dangerous stuff into the software we are using .... :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Why would someone's religion have any influence on that?
>>>
>>> The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will stop
>>> programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs, and thus companies
>>> like Google won't be able to get the best employees to do the work.
>>>
>>> But feel free to panic if you want - you can run around spouting
>>> whatever daft thoughts come into the empty space between your ears.
>>> It's not likely to make your posts any less rational.
>>>
>>
>> muslim is not a religion. So that pretty much
>> makes you "short-sighted bigoted half-wit"
>>
>
> You are correct - "muslim" is not a religion.  The name of the religion
> in question is "Islam", and "Muslim" is a term for practitioners of the
> Islamic religion.  Discrimination against Muslims is therefore religious
> discrimination.
>
> What did /you/ think "Muslim" meant?

You're using logic in a conversation with conspiracy theorists. Good 
luck with that...

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#7368

On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 16:09:43 +0100
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

> You are correct - "muslim" is not a religion.

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#7376 — Re: Do Muslim and Islamic practice incest?

On 1/30/2017 11:09 PM, David Brown wrote:
>
> You are correct - "muslim" is not a religion.  The name of the religion
> in question is "Islam", and "Muslim" is a term for practitioners of the
> Islamic religion.  Discrimination against Muslims is therefore religious
> discrimination.
>
> What did /you/ think "Muslim" meant?
>

Then do Muslim and Islamic practice incest??

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#7372

On 30/01/17 14:23, burfordTjustice wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:39:55 +0100
> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
>
>> On 30/01/17 14:21, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>> On 1/30/2017 7:45 PM, David B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No, there's no need for panic.
>>>>
>>>> Please define 'we'.
>>>
>>> You never knew whether these Mulism programmers secretly inserted
>>> and planted dangerous stuff into the software we are using .... :)
>>>
>>
>> Why would someone's religion have any influence on that?
>>
>> The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will stop
>> programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs, and thus companies
>> like Google won't be able to get the best employees to do the work.
>>
>> But feel free to panic if you want - you can run around spouting
>> whatever daft thoughts come into the empty space between your ears.
>> It's not likely to make your posts any less rational.
>>
>
> muslim is not a religion.

The word "Muslim" (which we normally capitalise, as it is a proper noun) 
describes an adherent of Islam, which is a religion.

> So that pretty much
> makes you "short-sighted bigoted half-wit"

No, it makes him correct. What your comment tells us about you is 
something else entirely.

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#7377

On 1/30/2017 11:32 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>
> The word "Muslim" (which we normally capitalise, as it is a proper noun)
> describes an adherent of Islam, which is a religion.

What about persons who DO NOT practice Islam but share the DNA of 
Muslims? How do you call them?

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#7392

On 30/01/17 16:57, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 1/30/2017 11:32 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>
>> The word "Muslim" (which we normally capitalise, as it is a proper noun)
>> describes an adherent of Islam, which is a religion.
> 
> What about persons who DO NOT practice Islam but share the DNA of
> Muslims? How do you call them?
> 

Why would you think there should a name for that rather arbitrary
grouping of people?  Islam is a /religion/ - you are a Muslim if you
/believe/ in that religion.  It is not like your eye colour or the size
of your earlobes that gets passed on in your genes.

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#7378

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.programming.]
On 2017-01-30, David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
> On 30/01/17 14:21, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 1/30/2017 7:45 PM, David B. wrote:
>>>
>>> No, there's no need for panic.
>>>
>>> Please define 'we'.
>> 
>> You never knew whether these Mulism programmers secretly inserted and
>> planted dangerous stuff into the software we are using .... :)
>> 
>
> Why would someone's religion have any influence on that?
>
> The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will stop
> programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs, and thus companies
> like Google won't be able to get the best employees to do the work.

Google is global, though. Google will get its best employees somewhere,
somehow.

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#7380

On 1/31/2017 12:32 AM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>
> Google is global, though. Google will get its best employees somewhere,
> somehow.

Programs are just files, which can be transferred over internet. So you 
don't have to really invite someone into USA to sub-contract programming 
jobs... unless the programming involves hardware devices that are not 
available outside of US. :)

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#7385

David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
news:o6nfk5$4p2$1@dont-email.me Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:39:55 GMT in
alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On 30/01/17 14:21, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 1/30/2017 7:45 PM, David B. wrote:
>>>
>>> No, there's no need for panic.
>>>
>>> Please define 'we'.
>> 
>> You never knew whether these Mulism programmers secretly inserted
>> and planted dangerous stuff into the software we are using ....
>> :) 
>> 
> 
> Why would someone's religion have any influence on that?
> 
> The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will stop
> programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs, and thus
> companies like Google won't be able to get the best employees to
> do the work. 

Best is relative. Google and other companies prefer to outsource the 
work to save payroll costs. It's not necessarily being about the best 
programmer or team of programmers. It's more along the lines of, will 
you write this cheaper than your American counter parts? If so, we need 
you, as many as we can get work visas for!
 


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#7389

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 02:31:52 -0000 (UTC), Diesel <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
>news:o6nfk5$4p2$1@dont-email.me Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:39:55 GMT in
>alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 
>
>> On 30/01/17 14:21, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>> On 1/30/2017 7:45 PM, David B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> No, there's no need for panic.
>>>>
>>>> Please define 'we'.
>>> 
>>> You never knew whether these Mulism programmers secretly inserted
>>> and planted dangerous stuff into the software we are using ....
>>> :) 
>>> 
>> 
>> Why would someone's religion have any influence on that?
>> 
>> The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will stop
>> programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs, and thus
>> companies like Google won't be able to get the best employees to
>> do the work. 
>
>Best is relative. Google and other companies prefer to outsource the 
>work to save payroll costs.

You have no idea what Google or other companies prefer to do. Neither
does outsourcing necessarily mean send overseas.


>It's not necessarily being about the best 
>programmer or team of programmers. It's more along the lines of, will 
>you write this cheaper than your American counter parts? If so, we need 
>you, as many as we can get work visas for!

This is just rubbish. Decisions are invariably a lot more complicated
and yes budget is important but not the only deciding factor.

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#7394

"p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid>
news:gln09chimm4hvrs0bdnclabm17c530nhn3@4ax.com Tue, 31 Jan 2017
10:01:37 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 02:31:52 -0000 (UTC), Diesel <me@privacy.net>
> wrote: 
> 
>>David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
>>news:o6nfk5$4p2$1@dont-email.me Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:39:55 GMT in
>>alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 
>>
>>> On 30/01/17 14:21, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>> On 1/30/2017 7:45 PM, David B. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No, there's no need for panic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please define 'we'.
>>>> 
>>>> You never knew whether these Mulism programmers secretly
>>>> inserted and planted dangerous stuff into the software we are
>>>> using .... 
>>>> :) 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Why would someone's religion have any influence on that?
>>> 
>>> The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will
>>> stop programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs, and thus
>>> companies like Google won't be able to get the best employees to
>>> do the work. 
>>
>>Best is relative. Google and other companies prefer to outsource
>>the work to save payroll costs.
> 
> You have no idea what Google or other companies prefer to do.
> Neither does outsourcing necessarily mean send overseas.

Your stupidity and willingness to demonstrate it so often does 
surprise me at times.
 
>>It's not necessarily being about the best 
>>programmer or team of programmers. It's more along the lines of,
>>will you write this cheaper than your American counter parts? If
>>so, we need you, as many as we can get work visas for!
> 
> This is just rubbish. Decisions are invariably a lot more
> complicated and yes budget is important but not the only deciding
> factor. 

No, it isn't. You clearly don't know how corporations like to do 
things here in the USA. And, why would you, you're in the UK.



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#7395

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 12:24:55 -0000 (UTC), Diesel <me@privacy.net> wrote:

>"p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid>
>news:gln09chimm4hvrs0bdnclabm17c530nhn3@4ax.com Tue, 31 Jan 2017
>10:01:37 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 
>
>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 02:31:52 -0000 (UTC), Diesel <me@privacy.net>
>> wrote: 
>> 
>>>David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
>>>news:o6nfk5$4p2$1@dont-email.me Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:39:55 GMT in
>>>alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 
>>>
>>>> On 30/01/17 14:21, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>>> On 1/30/2017 7:45 PM, David B. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, there's no need for panic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please define 'we'.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You never knew whether these Mulism programmers secretly
>>>>> inserted and planted dangerous stuff into the software we are
>>>>> using .... 
>>>>> :) 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Why would someone's religion have any influence on that?
>>>> 
>>>> The "danger" is that some short-sighted bigoted half-wit will
>>>> stop programmers getting into the USA to do their jobs, and thus
>>>> companies like Google won't be able to get the best employees to
>>>> do the work. 
>>>
>>>Best is relative. Google and other companies prefer to outsource
>>>the work to save payroll costs.
>> 
>> You have no idea what Google or other companies prefer to do.
>> Neither does outsourcing necessarily mean send overseas.
>
>Your stupidity and willingness to demonstrate it so often does 
>surprise me at times.
> 
>>>It's not necessarily being about the best 
>>>programmer or team of programmers. It's more along the lines of,
>>>will you write this cheaper than your American counter parts? If
>>>so, we need you, as many as we can get work visas for!
>> 
>> This is just rubbish. Decisions are invariably a lot more
>> complicated and yes budget is important but not the only deciding
>> factor. 
>
>No, it isn't. You clearly don't know how corporations like to do 
>things here in the USA. And, why would you, you're in the UK.

You know nothing about business period. 

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#7428

"p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <super.pooh@fluffyunderbelly.invalid>
news:u3119cpv7v8brqa459r923nelg8om7uhko@4ax.com Tue, 31 Jan 2017
12:36:33 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

> You know nothing about business period. 

Have you ever set foot in this country? This is a capitalist country, 
asshat. It's all about the $$$ and resources to get more $$$. If that 
means getting visas and hiring foreigners to save $$$ on payroll 
which means more $$$ for the company, they won't even bat an eye 
before they start the visa process.

Let's go over some of your more recent inaccurate claims, quickly:

1) You thought a post I wrote years ago was in some way contradicting 
a complaint I wrote concerning a particular heuristics hit.

2) You thought the same post written years ago was no longer accurate 
today or wasn't accurate when written.

3) You thought a recent post discussing a particular heuristics hit 
was an implication by me that Malwarebytes heuristics technologies 
sucked years ago, and/or suck now.

4) You thought my employer (you asked twice!) had something to do 
with my opinion concerning the wording of a particular heuristics hit 
and it was clearly an issue with the wording as you can't logically 
claim a zero byte length file has infected contents. It's just, not 
possible.

5) You claimed that if a [file infecting] virus changes Windows, it's 
not Windows anymore. So what is it then, Doors? ROFL!

6) You tried to compare the actions of a file infecting virus to that 
of editing a chapter of the book, war and peace to support your 
erroneous assumption #5 above.

7) You tried to create strawman arguments concerning load points for 
Malware to deflect/avoid answering questions raised by the previous 
six incorrect assumptions above.

8) you're now attempting to define what is meant by Windows load 
point, and/or load point as it relates to the discussion of Malware 
and the procedures involved in it's detection, possible prevention.

9) You jumped into a conversation discussing the BBS term SysOp and 
how it's not the correct terminology for the system/job duties asked 
of xx while serving with MSN (a form of irc). And assumed (because 
you knew nothing about some of my background or xx's) that PHP was 
related to what I was writing about and you thought I'd made a 
mistake about PHP as it related to MS; You wrongly thought the work 
Jenn performed was PHP related.  You tried to call me out on 
something YOU MISUNDERSTOOD. ROFL



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#7430

On 03/02/17 11:50, Diesel wrote:
>
> Have you ever set foot in this country?

You forgot to say which country. This is an international newsgroup. 
Every reader is entitled to interpret "this country" in his or her own 
way if you don't specify the country you are talking about.

I, for example, have most definitely set foot in this country, because 
"this country", to me, means the UK. Have you ever set foot in the UK? 
If not, you have never set foot in this country.

If you're going to post in a programming newsgroup, you'll need to 
cultivate a little more precision if you want to be taken seriously.

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#7439

Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> news:o71rre$csl$1@dont-email.me
Fri, 03 Feb 2017 12:09:58 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote: 

 
> If you're going to post in a programming newsgroup, you'll need to
> cultivate a little more precision if you want to be taken
> seriously. 

Heh, The saying is true. You're bound to find a smartass no matter 
which newsgroup(s) you may post in. I didn't see the crossposts to 
comp.programming. Then again, had you read the posts in chronological 
order between Pooh and myself, you'd already have a good idea which 
country I'm referencing. Even if you didn't see those posts, my comment 
about being in a capitalist country doesn't really leave many choices 
for guessing games. 






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#7440

On 04/02/17 02:39, Diesel wrote:
> Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> news:o71rre$csl$1@dont-email.me
> Fri, 03 Feb 2017 12:09:58 GMT in alt.comp.freeware, wrote:
>
>
>> If you're going to post in a programming newsgroup, you'll need to
>> cultivate a little more precision if you want to be taken
>> seriously.
>
> Heh, The saying is true. You're bound to find a smartass no matter
> which newsgroup(s) you may post in.

Given the alternative, I'll settle for "smartass".

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