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  Best Technology to build a web app. moltediego@gmail.com - 2016-03-10 07:57 -0800
    Re: Best Technology to build a web app. Randy Howard <rhoward.mx@EverybodyUsesIt.com> - 2016-03-10 11:06 -0600
      Re: Best Technology to build a web app. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-03-10 17:47 +0000
        Re: Best Technology to build a web app. Kaz Kylheku <330-706-9395@kylheku.com> - 2016-03-10 19:54 +0000
          Re: Best Technology to build a web app. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-03-10 21:52 +0000
        Re: Best Technology to build a web app. Randy Howard <rhoward.mx@EverybodyUsesIt.com> - 2016-03-11 12:05 -0600
          Re: Best Technology to build a web app. Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-03-11 19:33 +0000
            Re: Best Technology to build a web app. Randy Howard <rhoward.mx@EverybodyUsesIt.com> - 2016-03-11 14:21 -0600
            Re: Best Technology to build a web app. Kaz Kylheku <330-706-9395@kylheku.com> - 2016-03-12 00:52 +0000
    Re: Best Technology to build a web app. fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 10:02 -0800
      Re: Best Technology to build a web app. Mark Carroll <mtbc@bcs.org> - 2016-03-10 18:30 +0000
        Re: Best Technology to build a web app. fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 11:41 -0800
        Re: Best Technology to build a web app. Kaz Kylheku <330-706-9395@kylheku.com> - 2016-03-10 19:46 +0000
          Re: Best Technology to build a web app. Mark Carroll <mtbc@bcs.org> - 2016-03-10 21:23 +0000
    Re: Best Technology to build a web app. "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2016-03-10 21:29 +0100
    Re: Best Technology to build a web app. "cwf" <cwf101@wiosna.pl> - 2016-03-11 17:27 -0500

#6321 — Best Technology to build a web app.

Hi Experts,

I started a new project and I need to write a web application. It's the first time that i'm approaching this "world" but i don't have a problem to understand the technologies used. The only problem is to find the right technologies to build a rich and complex application (HTML+CSS, JS, Angular, ASP....etc etc). Any suggestion??

Regards,
Diego

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#6322

On 3/10/16 9:57 AM, moltediego@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Experts,
>
> I started a new project and I need to write a web application.
> It's the first time that i'm approaching this "world" but i
> don't have a problem to understand the technologies used. The
> only problem is to find the right technologies to build a rich
> and complex application (HTML+CSS, JS, Angular, ASP....etc
> etc). Any suggestion??

Golang.org.


-- 
Randy Howard
(replace the obvious text in the obvious way if you wish to contact me 
directly)

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#6323

On 10/03/16 17:06, Randy Howard wrote:
> On 3/10/16 9:57 AM, moltediego@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi Experts,
>>
>> I started a new project and I need to write a web application.
>> It's the first time that i'm approaching this "world" but i
>> don't have a problem to understand the technologies used. The
>> only problem is to find the right technologies to build a rich
>> and complex application (HTML+CSS, JS, Angular, ASP....etc
>> etc). Any suggestion??
>
> Golang.org.

Any language designed by Google employees must be avoided at all costs.
Any language designed by Ken Thompson must be used at all costs.

Paradox. Please halt your universe and re-boot.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#6328

On 2016-03-10, Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
> On 10/03/16 17:06, Randy Howard wrote:
>> On 3/10/16 9:57 AM, moltediego@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Hi Experts,
>>>
>>> I started a new project and I need to write a web application.
>>> It's the first time that i'm approaching this "world" but i
>>> don't have a problem to understand the technologies used. The
>>> only problem is to find the right technologies to build a rich
>>> and complex application (HTML+CSS, JS, Angular, ASP....etc
>>> etc). Any suggestion??
>>
>> Golang.org.
>
> Any language designed by Google employees must be avoided at all costs.
> Any language designed by Ken Thompson must be used at all costs.
>
> Paradox. Please halt your universe and re-boot.

Is the second point really true? Based on what credentials
should I use a programming language designed by Ken Thompson?

What is Thompson best known for: hacking on operating system code in
machine languages, and in typeless predecessor to C that serves as a
higher level assembler.

From that we know that he is excellent at ensuring that two independent
execution contexts don't stomp on each other, and that a buffer of bytes
goes to the correct piece of hardware in the correct sequence and
without undue delay, all with minimal help from the programming tools.

Does that translate to programming language design pedigree?

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#6332

On 10/03/16 19:54, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> On 2016-03-10, Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 10/03/16 17:06, Randy Howard wrote:

>>>
>>> Golang.org.
>>
>> Any language designed by Google employees must be avoided at all costs.
>> Any language designed by Ken Thompson must be used at all costs.
>>
>> Paradox. Please halt your universe and re-boot.
>
> Is the second point really true?

No, but then neither is the first.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#6333

On 3/10/16 11:47 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> Golang.org.
>
> Any language designed by Google employees must be avoided at all costs.
> Any language designed by Ken Thompson must be used at all costs.

Rob Pike as well.

> Paradox. Please halt your universe and re-boot.

It's actually pretty interesting, despite the organization. Kernighan 
even wrote another book about it.

More to the point, it is very good at what the OP asked about.

-- 
Randy Howard
(replace the obvious text in the obvious way if you wish to contact me 
directly)

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#6334

On 11/03/16 18:05, Randy Howard wrote:
> On 3/10/16 11:47 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>> Golang.org.
>>
>> Any language designed by Google employees must be avoided at all costs.
>> Any language designed by Ken Thompson must be used at all costs.
>
> Rob Pike as well.

Yes, I know. And he's not exactly an idiot either, is he?

>> Paradox. Please halt your universe and re-boot.
>
> It's actually pretty interesting, despite the organization. Kernighan
> even wrote another book about it.
>
> More to the point, it is very good at what the OP asked about.

Yep. I've played with it briefly myself, despite its organisational 
wossname, and it has a certain je ne sais quoi. I may need to reinstall 
it, though, since I don't recall looking at it since my disk died.

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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#6335

On 3/11/16 1:33 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
> On 11/03/16 18:05, Randy Howard wrote:
>> On 3/10/16 11:47 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>>> Golang.org.
>>>
>>> Any language designed by Google employees must be avoided at all costs.
>>> Any language designed by Ken Thompson must be used at all costs.
>>
>> Rob Pike as well.
>
> Yes, I know. And he's not exactly an idiot either, is he?

Far from it. If only more people would pay attention to that.

-- 
Randy Howard
(replace the obvious text in the obvious way if you wish to contact me 
directly)

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#6337

On 2016-03-11, Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:
> On 11/03/16 18:05, Randy Howard wrote:
>> On 3/10/16 11:47 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>>>> Golang.org.
>>>
>>> Any language designed by Google employees must be avoided at all costs.
>>> Any language designed by Ken Thompson must be used at all costs.
>>
>> Rob Pike as well.
>
> Yes, I know. And he's not exactly an idiot either, is he?
>
>>> Paradox. Please halt your universe and re-boot.
>>
>> It's actually pretty interesting, despite the organization. Kernighan
>> even wrote another book about it.
>>
>> More to the point, it is very good at what the OP asked about.
>
> Yep. I've played with it briefly myself, despite its organisational 
> wossname, and it has a certain je ne sais quoi. I may need to reinstall 

Quoi, as well as que.

For instance, "Les exceptions? Je ne sais pa que c'est."

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#6324

W dniu czwartek, 10 marca 2016 16:57:15 UTC+1 użytkownik molte...@gmail.com napisał:
> Hi Experts,
> 
> I started a new project and I need to write a web application. It's the first time that i'm approaching this "world" but i don't have a problem to understand the technologies used. The only problem is to find the right technologies to build a rich and complex application (HTML+CSS, JS, Angular, ASP....etc etc). Any suggestion??
> 
> Regards,
> Diego

use html and js, whats the problem

ps. im not much experience in the world of webapps but enough to know that js and html are the fundments

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#6325

On 10 Mar 2016, fir wrote:

> use html and js, whats the problem

What about server-side? (Or is this all client-side?)

> ps. im not much experience in the world of webapps but enough to know that js and html are the fundments

True, but plenty is built on top of them like libraries such as
Backbone, jQuery and React, all the way up to whole languages like
ClojureScript. It takes some effort to keep up with what's worth using
for new non-trivial projects.

-- Mark

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#6326

W dniu czwartek, 10 marca 2016 19:30:52 UTC+1 użytkownik Mark Carroll napisał:
> On 10 Mar 2016, fir wrote:
> 
> > use html and js, whats the problem
> 
> What about server-side? (Or is this all client-side?)
> 
> > ps. im not much experience in the world of webapps but enough to know that js and html are the fundments
> 
> True, but plenty is built on top of them like libraries such as
> Backbone, jQuery and React, all the way up to whole languages like
> ClojureScript. It takes some effort to keep up with what's worth using
> for new non-trivial projects.
> 
and how 'rich' and how 'complex' this app had to be...?

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#6327

On 2016-03-10, Mark Carroll <mtbc@bcs.org> wrote:
> On 10 Mar 2016, fir wrote:
>
>> use html and js, whats the problem
>
> What about server-side? (Or is this all client-side?)
>
>> ps. im not much experience in the world of webapps but enough to know
>> that js and html are the fundments
>
> True, but plenty is built on top of them like libraries such as
> Backbone, jQuery and React, all the way up to whole languages like
> ClojureScript. It takes some effort to keep up with what's worth using
> for new non-trivial projects.

If you're "keeping up with what is worth using", that means you're
constantly throwing away what you were temporarily duped into
believing was worth using.

When you have something worth using, you stop "keeping up", and you
actually ... use it.

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#6331

On 10 Mar 2016, Kaz Kylheku wrote:

> On 2016-03-10, Mark Carroll <mtbc@bcs.org> wrote:
(snip)
>> True, but plenty is built on top of them like libraries such as
>> Backbone, jQuery and React, all the way up to whole languages like
>> ClojureScript. It takes some effort to keep up with what's worth using
>> for new non-trivial projects.
>
> If you're "keeping up with what is worth using", that means you're
> constantly throwing away what you were temporarily duped into
> believing was worth using.

There's a difference between starting new projects from scratch and
further developing existing ones.

> When you have something worth using, you stop "keeping up", and you
> actually ... use it.

Yes: I've worked on plenty of projects where they were using what they
learned fifteen years ago and I was painfully aware of how much easier
and more reliable it would be if they could have broadened their
horizons. Even if you have a hammer that doesn't mean that everything is
a nail.

-- Mark

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#6329

On 2016-03-10 16:57, moltediego@gmail.com wrote:

> I started a new project and I need to write a web application. It's
> the first time that i'm approaching this "world" but i don't have a
> problem to understand the technologies used. The only problem is to find
> the right technologies to build a rich and complex application
> (HTML+CSS, JS, Angular, ASP.....etc etc). Any suggestion??

Gnoga

http://www.gnoga.com/

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

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#6336

<moltediego@gmail.com> wrote in message news:01598687-eaf5-49f1-968b-e8e36a0b24e3@googlegroups.com...
>Hi Experts,
>
>I started a new project and I need to write a web application. It's the first time that i'm approaching this "world" but i don't have a problem to understand the technologies 
>used. The only problem is to find the right technologies to build a rich and complex application (HTML+CSS, JS, Angular, ASP....etc etc). Any suggestion??
>
>Regards,
>Diego

Only C# + MVC + JQuery + AJAX
All in one.

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