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  Prevent overwriting files on FTP (need a Linux program) Victor Porton <porton@narod.ru> - 2014-04-08 17:54 +0300
    Re: Prevent overwriting files on FTP (need a Linux program) Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-04-08 19:56 +0000
      Re: Prevent overwriting files on FTP (need a Linux program) Victor Porton <porton@narod.ru> - 2014-04-08 23:26 +0300
        Re: Prevent overwriting files on FTP (need a Linux program) Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-04-08 21:18 +0000

#4193 — Prevent overwriting files on FTP (need a Linux program)

I use Debian Linux.

I edit files on an FTP server. I need to be warned when somebody else have 
written a file in order me not to overwrite it. Which software should I use 
for it? (Now I use Kate through FTP and it does NOT warn about modified 
files on the server.)

I have also filed feature request for Kate to do the same, but you know it 
will pass much time until my request will be fulfilled in my Debian jessie.

In the past I used Komodo Editor which does warn about files modified on an 
FTP server. Maybe should I switch back to Komodo? However, I'd prefer to 
somehow do it with Kate (maybe eiditing it).

-- 
Victor Porton - http://portonvictor.org

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#4194

On 2014-04-08, Victor Porton <porton@narod.ru> wrote:
> I use Debian Linux.
>
> I edit files on an FTP server. I need to be warned when somebody else have 
> written a file in order me not to overwrite it.

Then what do you do with your changes?

Multiple people concurrently updating files is solved by version control.

Instead of a FTP directory you have a shared repo, which handles situations
of changes to the same file (possibly conflicting ones).

> I have also filed feature request for Kate to do the same, but you know it 
> will pass much time until my request will be fulfilled in my Debian jessie.

Kate is open source, right? You can patch it yourself.

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#4195

Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> On 2014-04-08, Victor Porton <porton@narod.ru> wrote:
>> I use Debian Linux.
>>
>> I edit files on an FTP server. I need to be warned when somebody else
>> have written a file in order me not to overwrite it.
> 
> Then what do you do with your changes?

If I see there may ve overwrites, I could resolve the problem manually. The 
trouble is to know when there are conflicts, not how to resolve them.

> Multiple people concurrently updating files is solved by version control.

Yes I know...

> Instead of a FTP directory you have a shared repo, which handles
> situations of changes to the same file (possibly conflicting ones).

... but version control software is not installed on our server :-( I am not 
the admin neither have root password to solve this problem myself.

>> I have also filed feature request for Kate to do the same, but you know
>> it will pass much time until my request will be fulfilled in my Debian
>> jessie.
> 
> Kate is open source, right? You can patch it yourself.

-- 
Victor Porton - http://portonvictor.org

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#4196

On 2014-04-08, Victor Porton <porton@narod.ru> wrote:
> Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>> On 2014-04-08, Victor Porton <porton@narod.ru> wrote:
>>> I use Debian Linux.
>>>
>>> I edit files on an FTP server. I need to be warned when somebody else
>>> have written a file in order me not to overwrite it.
>> 
>> Then what do you do with your changes?
>
> If I see there may ve overwrites, I could resolve the problem manually. The 
> trouble is to know when there are conflicts, not how to resolve them.
>
>> Multiple people concurrently updating files is solved by version control.
>
> Yes I know...

Since this is comp.programming, we have programming tools.

Manually resolving conflicts is a decades-old approach belonging in the 1960's.
(By 1970's, we had version control.)

>> Instead of a FTP directory you have a shared repo, which handles
>> situations of changes to the same file (possibly conflicting ones).
>
> ... but version control software is not installed on our server :-( I am not 
> the admin neither have root password to solve this problem myself.

Use distributed version control among yourselves; and synchronize from an
off-server master repo to the files on the server. You can have more control
this way about what goes "live" and when.

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