Re: [OT] Tic-tac-toe strategy: computers vs humans

From	"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.electronics.basics, comp.programming
Subject	Re: [OT] Tic-tac-toe strategy: computers vs humans
Date	2016-12-12 12:12 +0800
Organization	Hung Hom, Kowloon, Hong Kong
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On 12/12/2016 1:26 AM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>
> Playing the game against people is very different from playing it
> against a computer. You won't fool a well-written program, but people
> can be suckered into losing. And the first rule of suckering people is
> to start in a corner. If you start in the middle, they'll pretty well
> know how to force a draw. But if you start in a corner, they're less
> likely to correctly select a safe move. Of course it's impossible to
> demonstrate this over Usenet, especially to programmers, because nobody
> is going to post a move without analysing it to death first. But in the
> real world, people don't do that. They know it's a forced draw, they
> assume they can't lose, and they play carelessly --- and then they don't
> understand why they lost.

That depends on how the player program was written. Tic-tac-toe does NOT 
have too many combinations and matrix of moves. Putting them all in a 
database, and the computer program could just follow the pattern to make 
a draw.

So it's theoretically possible to "personalize" the program so that it 
is playing like a real human.

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      Re: [OT] Tic-tac-toe strategy: Start in corners? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2016-12-11 17:26 +0000
        Re: [OT] Tic-tac-toe strategy: computers vs humans "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2016-12-12 12:12 +0800
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