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Re: What is the current state-of-the-art?

From Pankaj Jangid <pankaj.jangid@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.programming
Subject Re: What is the current state-of-the-art?
Date 2019-09-07 23:16 +0530
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Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com> writes:

> There are a lot of programmers these days, thanks to the internet and
> cheap hardware, but it doesn't seem like it has advanced computer
> programming at all.
>
We are moving towards more closed systems. In those days people put
effort into making something that last long. I am typing this email in
my emacs. This software will outlive me I am sure. But look at the
current generation tools. Just because we have abundance of programmers
now a days they are making anything now. Andy the work will be dumped
after two years.

Enormous effort put in those days made them share knowledge and
reuse. They created protocols for sharing messages (email), chat (irc),
web (http). I had choice whatever software I use to interact as long as
the protocol is same. Now for rust-programming, I need DiscordApp, for
Atlassian Slack, Gitters for some others. Why can't they talk using same
protocol.

> Confusion still abounds about object-oriented programming (one of my
> present interests), for example, and some programmers suggest ditching
> it for functional languages like Haskell.  Operating Systems have
> seemed to plateau in the past 10-15 years.  Linux now even has bogus
> version numbers to look like something's going on.  Firefox is on
> version 54 or something as if the web revolution is 54 years old.
> Language design is probably happening somewhere, but there doesn't
> seem to be any mailing lists with programmers discussing topics of
> such interest.
>

At one point, Google was the darling of the open source community. It
probably still is. But they are the one who started this versioning
convention of incrementing major version number every two months. They
didn't follow the community rules.

> What happened to the internet I used to know?  Hot topics and language
> wars seemed to make way for bogus JavaScript wonderlands.  It's not
> like the problems were solved (well, I've made an attempt), so have
> the problems gone underground and are now creating new cancers in the
> field?  I want my old community back of people thinking and doing cool
> shit that makes real advances in the state-of-the-art.  The computer
> revolution has not topped out and the internet revolution has yet to
> appear.  Trust me or ask me about it: I've quantified it.  (A topic
> for discussion that may be good fodder if anyone asks.)
>
> What are some topics that people are working on that they hope will
> advance the field?
>
Right now, I see only machine-learning people sharing code and knowledge
with each others. 

-- 
Pankaj Jangid

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What is the current state-of-the-art? Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2019-09-07 09:23 -0700
  Re: What is the current state-of-the-art? Pankaj Jangid <pankaj.jangid@gmail.com> - 2019-09-07 23:16 +0530
  Re: What is the current state-of-the-art? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-09-07 17:51 +0000
    Re: What is the current state-of-the-art? Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2019-09-08 06:31 -0700
    Re: What is the current state-of-the-art? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-09-13 07:42 -0700
  Re: What is the current state-of-the-art? Louis Valence <lvalence@example.com> - 2019-09-08 00:17 -0300
    Re: What is the current state-of-the-art? Mark Rosenblitt-Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com> - 2019-09-08 13:56 -0700
      Re: What is the current state-of-the-art? Louis Valence <lvalence@example.com> - 2019-09-08 23:54 -0300
      Re: What is the current state-of-the-art? Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2019-09-11 06:12 -0700
        Re: What is the current state-of-the-art? Louis Valence <lvalence@example.com> - 2019-09-11 21:25 -0300
          Re: What is the current state-of-the-art? Chad <cdalten@gmail.com> - 2019-09-13 10:25 -0700
            Re: What is the current state-of-the-art? Louis Valence <lvalence@example.com> - 2019-09-13 17:11 -0300
  Re: What is the current state-of-the-art? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2019-09-13 07:47 -0700

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