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About SC and TSO and RMO hardware memory models..

From Horizon68 <horizon@horizon.com>
Newsgroups comp.programming.threads
Subject About SC and TSO and RMO hardware memory models..
Date 2019-02-04 13:18 -0800
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Hello,


About SC and TSO and RMO hardware memory models..

I have just read the following webpage about the performance difference 
between: SC and TSO and RMO hardware memory models

I think TSO is better, it is just around 3% ~ 6% less performance
than RMO and it is a simpler programming model than RMO. So i think ARM 
must support TSO to be compatible with x86 that is TSO.

Read more here to notice it:

https://infoscience.epfl.ch/record/201695/files/CS471_proj_slides_Tao_Marc_2011_1222_1.pdf

About memory models and sequential consistency:

As you have noticed i am working with x86 architecture..

Even though x86 gives up on sequential consistency, it’s among the most 
well-behaved architectures in terms of the crazy behaviors it allows. 
Most other architectures implement even weaker memory models.

ARM memory model is notoriously underspecified, but is essentially a 
form of weak ordering, which provides very few guarantees. Weak ordering 
allows almost any operation to be reordered, which enables a variety of 
hardware optimizations but is also a nightmare to program at the lowest 
levels.

Read more here:

https://homes.cs.washington.edu/~bornholt/post/memory-models.html


Memory Models: x86 is TSO, TSO is Good

Essentially, the conclusion is that x86 in practice implements the old 
SPARC TSO memory model.

The big take-away from the talk for me is that it confirms the 
observation made may times before that SPARC TSO seems to be the optimal 
memory model. It is sufficiently understandable that programmers can 
write correct code without having barriers everywhere. It is 
sufficiently weak that you can build fast hardware implementation that 
can scale to big machines.

Read more here:

https://jakob.engbloms.se/archives/1435


Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.




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