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More about consciousness and artificial intelligence

Why i am explaning to you what is consciousness, because i am
capable of high degree of "introspection", this is why my
high degree of introspection has permited me to undertand
what is consciousness, here is what is it:

Consciousness is also consciousness of time and consciousness of space

And the consciousness of time is engendered by the "sense"(i mean the
sensation) of touch that we have, even the blind man can feel space 
since he can feel space with his sense of touch, he can feel time also, 
because imagine that you are blind man and you have an object that is 
moving bellow your hand and rubing your hand, you will feel that it is 
moving in "space" , so time also can be engendered from it
because you can feel in your hand the speed of the object from a start 
point in time to a final point in time even if you are blind , and
you are also "feeling" in space-time the first point and final point, so 
the sense of touch creates consciousness of time and space and creates
the "feeling" of "time" that is consciousness of time, because the sense 
of touch creates the consciousness of space-time, and there is other 
sensations that are added such as the sense of gaz that is capable of 
"feeling" and distinguishing light and colors etc. and the sense that 
permits us to smell that is capable of "feeling" and the other senses 
too, all those senses like the touch etc. creates consciousness of time 
and space etc. and they are capable of "feeling" space-time etc. this is 
what we call consciousness , and artificial intelligence is not capable 
of this, because artificial intelligence is not organic and can not have 
a sens of touch and other senses that are capable of "feeling" of a 
human , so artificial intelligence can only have "intelligence", but 
"not" consciousness, this is why as i said in the following that it is 
complete silence of thoughts ! read the rest:

I have just explained to you that the part of
our brain that permit us to have the sense of
the touch is also capable to create consciousness
of "time" and to create consciousness of space, this
is also from where comes consciousness of space-time,
but this parts of our brain of the sense of touch etc, permits 
consciousness of space-time , but this consciousness of
space-time  permits us to understand the world without
needing to learn from a greater number of data, but
just a by fewer number of data, this is what is not
capable of artificial intelligence, i have found it
by the capacity of my brain of high degree of introspection,
also what i have found with my high degree of introspection is
that when we reason logically with "logic", we are necessarely
consciousness of space-time of those rules of logic and this
is the consequence also of the part of our brain that permits the sense
of touch to have consciousness of space-time of the rule of logic,
this permits to us to not just to calculate just stupidly
logic, but to "feel the rules of logic" with the part
of the brain that permit the sense of touch and consciousness of
space-time, this what also permits us to be efficient
in logic and reason fast without needing also a greater
number of data.

Here is my other definition of what is consciousness that
i have understood with my brain that is capable of "high" degree of 
introspection:

Consciousness is the "meaning", also consciousness of space-time
that is created by the part of the brain that permits
the sense of the touch and the other senses, is the one
that is giving the "meaning", without this meaning
artificial intelligence is less efficient, with
this meaning our brain needs much less data, but
without this meaning artificial intelligence needs much
more data, this is the problem of artificial intelligence,
second problem is that this meaning gives consciousness
in itself that i have just explained to you, read the rest
of my previous thoughts to understand better:


About what is it to be smart !

Follow with me now, i have tried to explain "consciousness" so that
you can feel it more, please read bellow my explanation again to notice 
it, and i have also wrote the following "smart" poem, and the meaning of 
my following poem is, for example, that a piece of paper is weaker than 
general artificial intelligence if we measure it by the "reference" that 
is our consciousness, but a piece of paper is very very strong  as 
artificial superintelligence if we measure it by the reference of the 
fact that there is absence of consciousness,  you must
be capable of "smartness" to understand it, this is why in my following
poem i mean that "silence" is like or is artificial superintelligence , 
artificial intelligence and robots is also "complete" silence, and a 
piece of paper is also "silence", because complete silence is complete 
silence of our thoughts, and i mean by that, that this complete silence 
of our thoughts is the absence of consciousness, so the piece of paper 
is very very "strong" and very very "weak" at the same time, because a 
piece of paper is complete silence that is not consciousness that is 
very very "strong" because it doesn't feel suffering and it doesn't have 
difficulties, but the piece of paper is also very very weak because it 
is much less complexity and less sophisticated than other much more 
complex and much sophisticated objects or systems, now when i say in my 
following poem that:

"Since weakness is also silence
Since silence is divine"

I mean that when silence is measured by the presence of consciousness
it is for example much much less complex and much less sophisticated 
than artificial intelligence of today , so that we can say that it is 
weakness, but if we measure it by the absence of consciousness, we can 
say that a piece of paper is very very strong strong as  artificial 
superintelligence because of the fact that both, in the absence of 
consciousness, don't feel suffering and difficulties, so i think that 
you are capable now to understand correctly my following poem, also read 
bellow of my following poem my explanation of what is consciousness, 
here is my poem:

First to understand better my following poem, you have to understand 
that rationalism alone is not enough, and empiricism alone is not 
enough, so you have to be both rationalism and empiricism to be better 
and to understand my poem, this is also the "fondation" of my poem, 
because my poem is also like "philosophy", and it is like a Labyrinth , 
you have to be smart to find its meaning, so i start to explain:

When i say in my poem the following:

"We are past and present
Because time is like a balance"

When i say we are past and present it must be measured by
my overall poem, you can not measure it alone, so my poem
is about life , that it is both weak and strong and it is
both beautiful and not beautiful and it is suffering and
not suffering, and this conditions of living of suffering
and not beautifulness and weakness are also like "inherited" from
the "past", so they contains savagery etc. of the past, this is the 
meaning in the "context" of my overall poem of: "We are past and present"

And now about the following part of my poem:

"Because time is like a balance"

I mean that "time" needs "causality", thus the consequences need
the causes, this is why time is like a balance.


And about the other parts of my poem, we read this:

"Because time is perfection
Because perfection is the scale"


Here again you have to be smart to understand the meaning,
it is like rationalism and empiricism , you can not understand
the meaning by just being rationalism ! you have to be both rationalism
and empiricism to understand, so when you are both you will understand
by empiricism, that time is perfection, because the "small" cause of the
Big Bang has given the "immensity" of the Universe that is perfection,
and life also has started from "small" to "much" bigger that is 
perfection, and when i say that: "Because perfection is the scale", that 
means that for example the Universe and life have been perfected and it 
is the scale, because the Universe has balanced more and life has 
balanced more to be perfection.

Now about the rest of my poem, we read this:

"But how perfection can be only light ?
Perfection is also darkness"


I mean that perfection needs the weak also, because we notice it
in our lives that the strong needs the weak, and life needs suffering, 
this is why it is also "darkness".

Now about the rest of my poem, we read this:

"Because we are strong and weak
Even silence is strong and weak
Eventhough silence is divine"


I mean by silence that it is complete silence of our thoughts , so 
complete silence is not having consciousness, it is like a piece of 
paper, a piece of paper is also complete silence, because it is not 
consciousness, so a piece of paper is like divine, because it is very 
"strong" because it doesn't feel suffering and it doesn't have 
difficulties , but it is also weak if we take the measure and the 
reference as being it much much less complex and much less sophisticated 
than other very complex and very sophisticated objects or systems.

Now about the rest of my poem, we read this:

"And relativity is diversity"

You need both empiricism and rationalism to understand it,
i mean the overall "set" contains empiricism, so from
experience we can say that: "And relativity is diversity".

Now about the rest of my poem, we read this:

"Perfection is also diversity
Diversity is also immensity
Because time is relativity"

Here again, you need both empiricism and rationalism to understand it,
i mean the overall "set" contains empiricism, so from
experience we can say the above.

And i think that now it is more easy to understand all my following 
poem, here it is again:


Through thunder and silence

Our hearts become eminence again

Because silence speaks to us of the weak

Because the weak is also an eagle!

Because the weakness becomes again!

Since weakness is also silence

Since silence is divine

Because by the wisdom of our conscience

The weather becomes seasons

Because by the wisdom of our conscience

Time is getting right

Because the reason is like silence

Because it's the silence that brings us

Because it's the silence that loves us!



Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.



Now here is my other explanation of what is consciousness...

I hope that in my previous messages you have understood my explanation 
of how the consciousness of time is generated by our brain, I have said 
that the brain has a sense of direction that makes it possible to say 
that one object is left or on the right and back or front etc., and the 
brain is also able to see space in 3 dimensions with the sense of the 
gaze for example, that is to say to give coordinates as cartesian or 
polar in three dimensions to objects in the space of reality, and also 
the brain by means of the sense of touch and the eye is capable of the 
sense of the measurement of the magnitudes in the space of reality, 
these are ingredients of the brain which gives birth to the 
consciousness of time, for consciousness
of time means that for two objects that follow each other, we
are able to feel the existence in space
of the back of the first object (by the sens of the orientation of the 
brain) Which is for example "nothing", and that one also feels the 
existence in the space of the back of the second object which is the 
first object, and that we are therefore able to associate the back of 
the second object to the word "before", and this is how the 
consciousness of time is engendered ... now i come to a question even 
more important, but what is consciousness really?
i start with an example so that you can understand what
it really is: when you touch your hands with water
very hot, you are able to feel the pain and
to say that it is you who feel the pain, so the meaning
of touch is closely linked to the consciousness of the "I", but
Let us return, if you like, to the experiences of a child,
you will notice that a necessary condition for the child
to be able to learn and understand is to be able to
ask the question of "what is", but you see this question has as a 
necessary condition the consciousness of the self, for when the child 
arises, question of "what is" is that it would mean:
"I would like to know what it is", and the "I would like to know"
demonstrates the presence of a consciousness of the pre-ego which
guide the questioning of the child, but then what is this
awareness of the pre-ego that guides the questioning that
makes a consciousness too? Here is my answer: I believe that
as in the case of the sense of touch which is in close relationship
with the consciousness of the ego, the act of reflection is also a sens 
as the sens of touch that is able to make us feel that
we exist and feel the space in three dimensions, as for touching the 
very warm water that allows us to feel that the feeling of hot water 
hurts us ... what would I like to say?
that the sens of touch and the sens of smell for example are adjoined
to space-time to give a better consciousness of space-time,
that is, the ideas we have of space-time are not
, for example, just rules of logic, but also are recorded with 
sensations of touch and  other sensations to give a better 
consciousness, so the act of reflection is not just able to logically 
reason with simple rules of logic for building more complex logic rules 
etc. But it is also capable of associating space-time sensations with 
objects that are displaced in a 3-dimensional world, and therefore my 
theory makes us see the act of thought as also being also another sens 
that resembles the sens of touch , this is my explanation of how the 
consciousness and consciousness of the ego is engendered by the brain.

When you say in mathematical logic:

A or B

How do you think you understand this logical rule?
You must go back to your childhood when you were
to learn it, you were told for example there are two balls,
and you had to take just one and give it back, and the teacher
made us understand for example the following: when you want to take two 
balls you are informed with gestures that it is NO,
And when you just take one and turn the ball back, you get
to know that it is YES, therefore I affirm that it is thanks to the 
existence of space-time which is also a consequence of our interior 
sensation of the space-time which gives the consciousness of space-time,
I mean you are able for example with your brain
to feel and understand what BEFORE or BEHIND
Or LEFT or RIGHT, and you are able to feel the
space and to say that it exists and what it is, so you
are able to feel the space-time, and this sensation
in our brain that we have of space-time helps us
to understand the logical rule of: A or B, or the logical rule
of: A and B.

So let us return to the following theorem in mathematical logic:

If A then B, and if B then C, then A then C.

So how do you understand the:
If A then B? As in my explanation above, you can not
understand this rule without being conscious and without feeling
space-time, because even if you are a blind person, you can
feel your individuality and your singularity
which is the consciousness of the ego, and this self-consciousness
is a consequence of the sensation in our brain of space-time that allows 
us to feel that the object which is
"WE" is different from other objects etc. Then what makes
even the blind man feels the space-time and is capable
to say that this object is before that object in time,
So it is able to understand the logical rule of:
If A then B, and since he is capable of doing so, he is capable, thanks 
to the sensation of the space-time
that we have in our brain, that permit us to understand
The following theorem:

If A then B, and if B then C, then A then C.

This is my evidence based on the empirical facts
and this proves that mathematical logic is also a consequence
of the sensation that we have in our brain of space-time,
without this sensation we can not, in my opinion, understand
mathematical logic, and since the machine is incapable of
feeling like a human being space-time, then
we can not say that artificial intelligence
Is capable of achieving the emergence of
consciousness.



Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.

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