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| Started by | "Internetado" <internetado@bbs.alt119.net> |
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| First post | 2024-03-02 20:10 -0300 |
| Last post | 2024-03-13 18:00 +0000 |
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HP Wants to Rent You a Printer That It Monitors at All Times "Internetado" <internetado@bbs.alt119.net> - 2024-03-02 20:10 -0300
Re: HP Wants to Rent You a Printer That It Monitors at All Times Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2024-03-03 09:50 +0000
Re: HP Wants to Rent You a Printer That It Monitors at All Times Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2024-03-03 21:53 -0500
Re: HP Wants to Rent You a Printer That It Monitors at All Times Arthur Conan Doyle <dont@bother.com> - 2024-03-04 12:59 -0600
Re: HP Wants to Rent You a Printer That It Monitors at All Times jeffj@panix.com (Jeff Jonas) - 2024-03-13 18:00 +0000
| From | "Internetado" <internetado@bbs.alt119.net> |
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| Date | 2024-03-02 20:10 -0300 |
| Subject | HP Wants to Rent You a Printer That It Monitors at All Times |
| Message-ID | <65E3B1EA.2127.com21010@bbs.alt119.net> |
HP's "All-In Plan" requires a constant internet connection so that the company can see not just how many pages you're printing, but what file types. It costs up to $36 per month. https://www.wired.com/story/hp-all-in-plan-printer-subscription-service/ -- [s] Internetado. -- I wish I REALLY knew what I was doing.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2024-03-03 09:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <us1gts$2ebis$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4645 |
On 2024-03-02, Internetado wrote: > HP's "All-In Plan" requires a constant internet connection so that the > company can see not just how many pages you're printing, but what file > types. It costs up to $36 per month. > > https://www.wired.com/story/hp-all-in-plan-printer-subscription-service/ This has been making the rounds on fediverse (or at least on Mastodon?) for a while now - I guess HP is trying really hard to kill their printer business. Which, a looong time ago, might have been something they didn't suck at? Now is this going to happen only with inkjet or with their laser printers too? Even without this, I'd discourage getting inkjet printers sold by HP. I've twice seen such printers rendered useless or harder to use by brittle materials. With this pricing, HP printers might also be more expensive for those who have a cheaper printing service available nearby. Might depend on whether one wants to print often in color, though. Also, what about when the copyright cartels get hold of this and start requiring that HP inflates prices with payments purportedly to "compensate for printing protected works". Or have they already done that? -- Nuno Silva
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2024-03-03 21:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <87zfvelnch.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #4646 |
On Sun, 03 Mar 2024 09:50:22 +0000, Nuno Silva wrote: > > On 2024-03-02, Internetado wrote: > >> HP's "All-In Plan" requires a constant internet connection so that the >> company can see not just how many pages you're printing, but what file >> types. It costs up to $36 per month. >> >> https://www.wired.com/story/hp-all-in-plan-printer-subscription-service/ > > This has been making the rounds on fediverse (or at least on Mastodon?) > for a while now - I guess HP is trying really hard to kill their printer > business. Which, a looong time ago, might have been something they > didn't suck at? > > Now is this going to happen only with inkjet or with their laser > printers too? You [agree to] *rent* a printer and ink. Quote: | HP launched a subscription service Thursday that rents people a | printer, allots them a specific amount of printed pages, and sends | them ink for a monthly fee. HP is framing its service as a way to | simplify printing for families and small businesses, but the deal | also comes with monitoring and a years-long commitment. Fine with me. -- Andreas
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| From | Arthur Conan Doyle <dont@bother.com> |
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| Date | 2024-03-04 12:59 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <ra6cui1ua9qqsfnvhckhrldknbto3tuqe0@None> |
| In reply to | #4647 |
Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: >| HP launched a subscription service Thursday that rents people a >| printer, allots them a specific amount of printed pages, and sends >| them ink for a monthly fee. HP is framing its service as a way to >| simplify printing for families and small businesses, but the deal >| also comes with monitoring and a years-long commitment. > >Fine with me. It's no different that most small business arrangements for photocopiers these days. They pay a local office machine company by the sheet for every copy made with certain usage minimums. Buying the machine outright is too expensive for most. -- Usenet: The world's first (and best) social network.
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| From | jeffj@panix.com (Jeff Jonas) |
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| Date | 2024-03-13 18:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <usspkf$6k1$1@reader1.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #4648 |
>>| HP launched a subscription service Thursday that rents people a printer >It's no different that most small business arrangements for photocopiers 1) I believe the photocopier leasing/rental includes service. Will HP dispatch technicians to repair a leased printer? 2) I believe Xerox's original arrangement was pay per page not a rental or ownership since businesses grossly underestimated the copy count. Xerox made a bundle that way. --
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