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| Started by | lawrencedo99@gmail.com |
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| First post | 2016-06-09 20:37 -0700 |
| Last post | 2016-07-02 20:05 +0000 |
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VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-09 20:37 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> - 2016-06-10 08:17 -0500
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-10 17:04 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had osuvman50@gmail.com - 2016-06-10 08:34 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-10 12:12 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-10 20:28 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-10 18:32 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-10 20:44 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-10 15:35 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-11 09:07 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-11 10:52 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-11 16:59 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 11:12 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-12 12:32 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-12 04:50 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 14:12 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-12 14:47 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 17:14 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2016-06-12 09:40 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Robert A. Brooks" <FIRST.LAST@vmssoftware.com> - 2016-06-12 16:06 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had abrsvc <dansabrservices@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-12 13:19 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-12 16:32 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-06-12 20:19 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2016-06-12 14:20 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-12 21:03 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 21:11 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-12 21:16 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 21:27 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 14:00 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-13 21:35 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2016-06-14 11:28 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 10:31 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-16 14:47 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 12:19 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-16 16:44 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:23 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-16 21:26 +0000
VMS and Sweden, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-14 19:33 +0000
Re: VMS and Sweden, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-14 23:36 +0200
Re: VMS and Sweden, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:18 +0000
Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 12:39 +0200
Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-19 13:51 +0000
Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 19:43 +0200
Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 15:53 -0400
Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-19 22:44 -0700
Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 13:21 -0400
Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-21 07:02 -0700
Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-20 11:25 +0000
Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 22:02 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-13 16:53 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-12 13:34 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 13:54 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-12 13:32 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-13 13:07 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 14:06 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 13:48 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 13:41 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 13:47 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-13 22:34 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-13 20:22 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-14 04:26 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-06-14 18:59 -0500
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-14 21:11 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-15 02:32 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> - 2016-06-12 16:54 +0300
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-12 15:52 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> - 2016-06-12 20:42 +0300
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-12 19:35 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 14:10 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 13:43 -0400
Filename completion, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-10 18:29 +0000
Re: Filename completion, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-10 22:14 +0200
Re: Filename completion, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-11 00:06 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-10 20:05 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-11 09:12 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Joukj <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl> - 2016-06-13 09:37 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-13 09:56 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-13 10:53 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 09:33 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-11 10:53 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-11 15:27 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-12 03:15 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 11:19 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-06-12 18:55 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-13 08:59 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-13 15:55 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-13 19:36 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 13:46 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-13 21:20 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 17:27 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-13 23:55 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-14 00:12 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-14 09:36 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 10:32 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 11:24 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 10:42 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:12 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-14 09:32 -0400
Re: Parsers (was Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had) Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-14 10:58 -0400
Re: Parsers (was Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had) VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 15:25 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 11:22 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 10:35 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:16 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 20:37 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-14 18:27 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 11:24 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-15 11:57 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 14:39 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-15 08:58 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 15:30 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-15 14:35 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 19:29 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> - 2016-06-15 13:26 -0500
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-16 11:18 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-16 09:57 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-16 13:58 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> - 2016-06-16 15:20 -0500
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-21 17:17 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 11:21 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 12:59 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-15 11:53 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-13 16:51 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 11:28 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 10:47 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:17 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 20:55 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 11:31 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-14 18:29 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-14 04:14 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 11:25 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:21 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-14 09:44 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:22 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-14 19:23 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 11:34 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-15 03:17 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 13:04 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 05:34 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-18 21:45 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:31 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-15 02:36 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2016-06-15 11:53 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-15 19:10 +0000
Terminals, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:45 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:33 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-30 02:15 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Steven Schweda <sms.antinode@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 03:58 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had hb <end.of@inter.net> - 2016-06-30 14:25 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-30 11:29 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-30 15:29 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 20:59 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-07-01 11:21 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 12:41 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-07-01 14:39 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-01 15:13 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 21:31 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-07-02 16:33 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 16:57 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-07-02 17:34 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-07-03 06:40 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 00:09 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 08:12 -0400
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-07-03 12:35 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-07-03 10:50 +0200
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-07-03 11:05 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-07-03 12:29 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-07-03 11:44 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-07-03 06:59 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-07-03 15:58 +0000
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 14:38 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-07-03 17:53 -0500
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 16:19 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-07-03 21:03 -0500
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 21:11 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-07-04 05:48 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-04 16:55 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 14:33 -0700
Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-07-02 20:05 +0000
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2016-06-19 12:39 +0200 |
| Subject | Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden |
| Message-ID | <0c9i3d-o4f.ln1@news.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #58371 |
On 2016-06-14, Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote: > > Of course, given recent developments, in the future Clippy's likely to > pop up after the search and ask "Can I interest you in Windows 10 > instead ?". :-) <http://www.donthitsave.com/comic/2016/06/14/microsoft-linkedin> <http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/opinion/why-linkedin-will-make-you-hate-microsoft-word.html> -- There are two hard things in computer science, and they are cache invalidation, naming, and off-by-one errors.
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| From | Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> |
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| Date | 2016-06-19 13:51 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden |
| Message-ID | <nk681q$pa3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #58597 |
On 2016-06-19, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote: > On 2016-06-14, Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote: >> >> Of course, given recent developments, in the future Clippy's likely to >> pop up after the search and ask "Can I interest you in Windows 10 >> instead ?". :-) > ><http://www.donthitsave.com/comic/2016/06/14/microsoft-linkedin> > I see I'm not the only one to think this. :-) ><http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/opinion/why-linkedin-will-make-you-hate-microsoft-word.html> > For that to work, surely Microsoft would have to send context from your documents, which would include details of what your current project is, to LinkedIn. If so, I wonder how many companies would be happy for their privacy to be compromised in that way ? Simon. -- Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP Microsoft: Bringing you 1980s technology to a 21st century world
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2016-06-19 19:43 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden |
| Message-ID | <r72j3d-15g.ln1@news.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #58603 |
On 2016-06-19, Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote: > On 2016-06-19, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote: >> On 2016-06-14, Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote: >>> >>> Of course, given recent developments, in the future Clippy's likely to >>> pop up after the search and ask "Can I interest you in Windows 10 >>> instead ?". :-) >> >><http://www.donthitsave.com/comic/2016/06/14/microsoft-linkedin> >> > > I see I'm not the only one to think this. :-) > >><http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/opinion/why-linkedin-will-make-you-hate-microsoft-word.html> >> > > For that to work, surely Microsoft would have to send context from > your documents, which would include details of what your current > project is, to LinkedIn. A poke around the Office 365 Wiki brought me to Yammer, which MS bought in 2012, and subsequently announced (2914) were moving into Office 365. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_365> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yammer#History> and "What the Heck is Yammer?": <http://www.pcworld.com/article/260517/what_is_heck_is_yammer.html> > If so, I wonder how many companies would be happy for their privacy > to be compromised in that way ? A lot of folks seem blind to it. Convenience trumps privacy... -- There are two hard things in computer science, and they are cache invalidation, naming, and off-by-one errors.
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| From | Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-19 15:53 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden |
| Message-ID | <dsobh1Fcvh6U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #58615 |
On 6/19/16 1:43 PM, Paul Sture wrote: > On 2016-06-19, Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote: >> On 2016-06-19, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote: >>> On 2016-06-14, Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote: >>>> >>>> Of course, given recent developments, in the future Clippy's likely to >>>> pop up after the search and ask "Can I interest you in Windows 10 >>>> instead ?". :-) >>> >>> <http://www.donthitsave.com/comic/2016/06/14/microsoft-linkedin> >>> >> >> I see I'm not the only one to think this. :-) >> >>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/17/opinion/why-linkedin-will-make-you-hate-microsoft-word.html> >>> >> >> For that to work, surely Microsoft would have to send context from >> your documents, which would include details of what your current >> project is, to LinkedIn. > > A poke around the Office 365 Wiki brought me to Yammer, which MS bought > in 2012, and subsequently announced (2914) were moving into Office 365. > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_365> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yammer#History> > > and "What the Heck is Yammer?": > > <http://www.pcworld.com/article/260517/what_is_heck_is_yammer.html> > >> If so, I wonder how many companies would be happy for their privacy >> to be compromised in that way ? > > A lot of folks seem blind to it. Convenience trumps privacy... > I stopped using Office when it became a "cloud" package. Of course, now, if I had subscribed, I would be screwed because of my being limited to only the Internet I can get on a smartphone. :-) I see more and more businesses moving to things like Open Office. I never did and I certainly don't trust Microsoft today. bill
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| From | lawrencedo99@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-06-19 22:44 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden |
| Message-ID | <deb281c6-f1bd-4c74-8f47-0e11610ef6f1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #58621 |
On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 7:53:07 AM UTC+12, Bill Gunshannon wrote: > I see more and more businesses moving to things like Open Office. OpenOffice is where Microsoft Office goes to die. Use LibreOffice instead.
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| From | Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-20 13:21 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden |
| Message-ID | <dsqn0uFr4lrU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #58647 |
On 6/20/16 1:44 AM, lawrencedo99@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 7:53:07 AM UTC+12, Bill Gunshannon wrote: > >> I see more and more businesses moving to things like Open Office. > > OpenOffice is where Microsoft Office goes to die. > > Use LibreOffice instead. > Sorry, I never really saw the difference. Just shows how all the infighting is damaging the open source movement and keeping that great big grin on Bill Gates face. bill
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| From | lawrencedo99@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-06-21 07:02 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden |
| Message-ID | <1d9a880a-ac4c-4d19-a517-55af923da6aa@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #58675 |
On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 5:21:37 AM UTC+12, Bill Gunshannon wrote: > On 6/20/16 1:44 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 7:53:07 AM UTC+12, Bill Gunshannon wrote: >> >>> I see more and more businesses moving to things like Open Office. >> >> OpenOffice is where Microsoft Office goes to die. >> >> Use LibreOffice instead. >> > > Sorry, I never really saw the difference. If you never saw the difference, then you never used it much. > Just shows how all the infighting is damaging the open source movement ... You wish.
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| From | VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG |
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| Date | 2016-06-20 11:25 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden |
| Message-ID | <00B0AE4D.62630281@SendSpamHere.ORG> |
| In reply to | #58621 |
In article <deb281c6-f1bd-4c74-8f47-0e11610ef6f1@googlegroups.com>, lawrencedo99@gmail.com writes: >On Monday, June 20, 2016 at 7:53:07 AM UTC+12, Bill Gunshannon wrote: > >> I see more and more businesses moving to things like Open Office. > >OpenOffice is where Microsoft Office goes to die. > >Use LibreOffice instead. Eh... -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.
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| From | Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> |
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| Date | 2016-06-19 22:02 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden |
| Message-ID | <8caj3d-ncg.ln1@news.chingola.ch> |
| In reply to | #58615 |
On 2016-06-19, Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> wrote:
>
> A poke around the Office 365 Wiki brought me to Yammer, which MS bought
> in 2012, and subsequently announced (2914) were moving into Office 365.
^^^^
2014
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_365>
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yammer#History>
>
> and "What the Heck is Yammer?":
>
><http://www.pcworld.com/article/260517/what_is_heck_is_yammer.html>
>
--
There are two hard things in computer science, and they are cache invalidation,
naming, and off-by-one errors.
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| From | koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 16:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4TaILlPVruvU@eisner.encompasserve.org> |
| In reply to | #58256 |
In article <njmsbp$rev$1@dont-email.me>, David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes: > > Now, what has happened in the past is that some people have thought that they > have "seen the writing on the wall", and that if they didn't move to a more > popular environment they might have a problem finding future employment. That > doesn't mean that they wanted to switch, but that they thought they HAD to switch. And I've seen so many of them wish they had VMS back. Or be pleasantly surprised to see me using VMS.
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| From | lawrencedo99@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-06-12 13:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <0ff0b8e7-6df6-4b98-bd1b-6bb60763bc8d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #58253 |
On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 7:16:36 AM UTC+12, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: > Developing is sometimes having three fixed commands (edit, build and run) > and swapping between them with up-arrow with no line editing at all... :-) Make that two commands--build and run. Emacs is always open in a separate window. :)
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| From | David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 13:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <njms1e$ks0$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #58252 |
Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2016-06-12 21:03, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: >> Den 2016-06-12 kl. 17:14, skrev Johnny Billquist: >>> Well, here is another thought for you. >>> Who are the ones trying to move off from VMS? I doubt it's the users who >>> don't even know what a file is, much less a command line interface. >>> >>> It's more likely the few persons who actually know what a command line >>> interface is, and who are doing development, who are the ones that >>> want to >>> move to something else... >> >> No, it is those paying the bills and matching the cost against the value >> for the site, and they know aboslutely nothing about VMS. The fact that >> the current systems serves the site very well at a low cost, is the >> reason the systems are still there. The fact that they run VMS doesn't >> matter, as long as that fact doesn't become an issue in itself. >> >> The risk of not beeing able to get competent people to work with the >> systems is a far larger "risk" then missing file name completion. > > I think that was the point I was trying to make. :-) > >> As long as the work and cost to replace the systems is far higher then >> to continuing using them, they'll stay. Byt then, we also have to show >> they we can follow the stream with web interfaces and other integration >> and cooperative features. File name completion is not such an feature. > > No. But if developers do not want to work on the system, you will never > get the functions, and developers usually use the command line interface. > > Johnny > If a developer doesn't know what's important, what the main purpose of computers and applications is, then in my opinion he / she is a rather worthless developer. Anyone listening to such people is being set up for a fall ....
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| From | lawrencedo99@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-06-12 13:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <5dd3d1b7-8dd2-45cf-9de1-428266c059bf@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #58250 |
On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 7:03:56 AM UTC+12, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: > As long as the work and cost to replace the systems is far higher then > to continuing using them, they'll stay. Is that by measuring the discounted cost of continuing to run the legacy system, as opposed to the total cost? Does your company consider IT to be a strategic asset, or just an unavoidable expense? And then you wonder why you are losing customers to more nimble, more up-to-date competitors...
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| From | Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 13:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.303.1465823306.14919.info-vax_info-vax.com@info-vax.com> |
| In reply to | #58267 |
> -----Original Message----- > From: Info-vax [mailto:info-vax-bounces@info-vax.com] On Behalf Of > lawrencedo99--- via Info-vax > Sent: 12-Jun-16 4:33 PM > To: info-vax@info-vax.com > Cc: lawrencedo99@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [New Info-vax] VMS Features I Wish Linux Had > > On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 7:03:56 AM UTC+12, Jan-Erik Soderholm > wrote: > > As long as the work and cost to replace the systems is far higher then > > to continuing using them, they'll stay. > > Is that by measuring the discounted cost of continuing to run the legacy > system, as opposed to the total cost? > > Does your company consider IT to be a strategic asset, or just an > unavoidable expense? > > And then you wonder why you are losing customers to more nimble, > more up-to-date competitors... Every time I heard this marketing type stuff, I am reminded to post the following story on Jurassic Programmers: (from 2008, it is a timeless lesson as to why one needs to focus on the business and not the technology of the day) http://thedailywtf.com/articles/Jurassic-Programmers- Regards, Kerry Main Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com
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| From | David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 14:06 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <njmsnf$sqb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #58267 |
lawrencedo99@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 7:03:56 AM UTC+12, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: >> As long as the work and cost to replace the systems is far higher then >> to continuing using them, they'll stay. > > Is that by measuring the discounted cost of continuing to run the legacy system, as opposed to the total cost? > > Does your company consider IT to be a strategic asset, or just an unavoidable expense? > > And then you wonder why you are losing customers to more nimble, more up-to-date competitors... Can you point to even one instance when a company, mfg, distributor, and such, has lost any customers because they continue to use VMS? IT is ALWAYS an expense .... IT can be a strategic asset .... Being a strategic asset is mostly about the applications, not the OS. But, in fairness, I will admit that while not a part of the OS, SSL issues are causing some problems with being a strategic asset this month.
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| From | David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 13:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <njmrl3$ks0$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #58234 |
Johnny Billquist wrote: > That is the question, though. Isn't it? Are the majority of users not > using DCL in the first place, then any new features and functionality in > there will not be asked for either. > > It's funny, though. I think we've had a whole bunch of threads where > people have asked for improvements and replacements for DCL, and now > suddenly everyone is saying that this is not needed, and the current DCL > is perfectly fine as it is, along with the terminal driver. The answer to your question might be "who is here?" Probably not the users of applications. They have their job, and then they want nothing to do with their job when they leave for the day. Possibly developers, system managers, and the like is who participate in this venue. People much more likely to use DCL, and need to do unique things.
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| From | lawrencedo99@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 13:41 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <59981619-2d94-46f8-ad2f-eb55662d7a1f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #58316 |
On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 5:48:21 AM UTC+12, David Froble wrote: > Possibly developers, system managers, and the like is who participate in this > venue. People much more likely to use DCL, and need to do unique things. It was Henry Ford who said, if he had asked his customers what they wanted, they would have replied, “a faster horse”.
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| From | John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 13:47 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <499c335a-2e29-4e26-a371-4b1a78268fd3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #58325 |
On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:41:52 PM UTC-4, lawren...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 5:48:21 AM UTC+12, David Froble wrote: > > > Possibly developers, system managers, and the like is who participate in this > > venue. People much more likely to use DCL, and need to do unique things. > > It was Henry Ford who said, if he had asked his customers what they wanted, they would have replied, “a faster horse”. http://www.helloerik.com/no-one-said-they-wanted-faster-horses-they-wanted-less-horseshit
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| From | Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 22:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mailman.136.1465857311.14339.info-vax_info-vax.com@info-vax.com> |
| In reply to | #58327 |
> -----Original Message----- > From: Info-vax [mailto:info-vax-bounces@info-vax.com] On Behalf Of > John Reagan via Info-vax > Sent: 13-Jun-16 4:48 PM > To: info-vax@info-vax.com > Cc: John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [New Info-vax] VMS Features I Wish Linux Had > > On Monday, June 13, 2016 at 4:41:52 PM UTC-4, lawren...@gmail.com > wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 14, 2016 at 5:48:21 AM UTC+12, David Froble wrote: > > > > > Possibly developers, system managers, and the like is who participate > in this > > > venue. People much more likely to use DCL, and need to do unique > things. > > > > It was Henry Ford who said, if he had asked his customers what they > wanted, they would have replied, “a faster horse”. > > http://www.helloerik.com/no-one-said-they-wanted-faster-horses- > they-wanted-less-horseshit > John - good article - thx. Extract - "Henry Ford looked at problems people actually had, and came up with new solutions that people couldn’t articulate or conceive of." Or in other words - "blue oceans vs red oceans" scroll down-click on video https://www.blueoceanstrategy.com/what-is-blue-ocean-strategy/ :-) Regards, Kerry Main Kerry dot main at starkgaming dot com
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| From | Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-13 20:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <njniog$fbt$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #58332 |
On 2016-06-13 22:34:16 +0000, Kerry Main said: > "Henry Ford looked at problems people actually had, and came up with > new solutions that people couldn’t articulate or conceive of." > > > > Or in other words - "blue oceans vs red oceans" > Ayup. Though it does appear that DVCS is an area that you cannot articulate nor conceive of. Or that you prefer to disbelieve the usefulness of the tools. Given that OpenVMS isn't particularly good at accessing a DVCS — yes, jgit or the Python Hg bits — unfamiliarity with these tools and these approaches is not a huge surprise, though. Windows (Visual Studio) and macOS (Xcode) both integrate with git, so that's a little more natural for developers working with those tools on those platforms, and there are command-line and other GUI tools available. I don't know off-hand if eCube NXTware or the old Netbeans bits for OpenVMS integrate with git. -- Pure Personal Opinion | HoffmanLabs LLC
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