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  VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-09 20:37 -0700
    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.net_work> - 2016-06-10 08:17 -0500
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-10 17:04 +0200
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had osuvman50@gmail.com - 2016-06-10 08:34 -0700
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-10 12:12 -0400
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-10 20:28 +0200
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-10 18:32 +0000
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-10 20:44 +0200
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-10 15:35 -0400
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-11 09:07 +0200
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-11 10:52 -0400
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-11 16:59 +0200
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 11:12 +0200
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-12 12:32 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-12 04:50 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 14:12 +0200
                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-12 14:47 +0200
                    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 17:14 +0200
                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2016-06-12 09:40 -0700
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Robert A. Brooks" <FIRST.LAST@vmssoftware.com> - 2016-06-12 16:06 -0400
                          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had abrsvc <dansabrservices@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-12 13:19 -0700
                          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-12 16:32 -0400
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-06-12 20:19 +0000
                          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2016-06-12 14:20 -0700
                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-12 21:03 +0200
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 21:11 +0200
                          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-12 21:16 +0200
                            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 21:27 +0200
                              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 14:00 -0400
                                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-13 21:35 +0200
                                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) - 2016-06-14 11:28 -0400
                                    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 10:31 -0400
                                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-16 14:47 +0000
                                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-16 12:19 -0400
                                          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-16 16:44 +0000
                                            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:23 +0000
                                            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-16 21:26 +0000
                                  VMS and Sweden, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-14 19:33 +0000
                                    Re: VMS and Sweden, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-14 23:36 +0200
                                      Re: VMS and Sweden, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:18 +0000
                                    Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 12:39 +0200
                                      Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-19 13:51 +0000
                                        Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 19:43 +0200
                                          Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 15:53 -0400
                                            Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-19 22:44 -0700
                                              Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-20 13:21 -0400
                                                Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-21 07:02 -0700
                                            Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-20 11:25 +0000
                                          Re: Microsoft buys LinkedIn, Was: Re: VMS and Sweden Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 22:02 +0200
                              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-13 16:53 -0400
                            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-12 13:34 -0700
                          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 13:54 -0400
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-12 13:32 -0700
                          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-13 13:07 +0000
                          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 14:06 -0400
                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 13:48 -0400
                    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 13:41 -0700
                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had John Reagan <xyzzy1959@gmail.com> - 2016-06-13 13:47 -0700
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-13 22:34 +0000
                          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-13 20:22 -0400
                            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Kerry Main <kerry.main@backtothefutureit.com> - 2016-06-14 04:26 +0000
                            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-06-14 18:59 -0500
                              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-14 21:11 -0400
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-15 02:32 -0700
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> - 2016-06-12 16:54 +0300
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-12 15:52 +0000
                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Henry Crun <mike@rechtman.com> - 2016-06-12 20:42 +0300
                    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-12 19:35 +0000
                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 14:10 -0400
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-13 13:43 -0400
      Filename completion, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-10 18:29 +0000
        Re: Filename completion, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-10 22:14 +0200
          Re: Filename completion, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> - 2016-06-11 00:06 +0200
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-10 20:05 +0000
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-11 09:12 +0200
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Joukj <joukj@hrem.nano.tudelft.nl> - 2016-06-13 09:37 +0200
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-13 09:56 +0200
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-13 10:53 +0000
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> - 2016-06-11 09:33 -0400
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-11 10:53 -0400
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-11 15:27 +0000
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-06-12 03:15 +0000
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-12 11:19 +0200
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-06-12 18:55 +0000
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-13 08:59 -0400
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-13 15:55 +0200
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-13 19:36 +0000
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 13:46 -0700
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-13 21:20 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-13 17:27 -0700
                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-13 23:55 -0700
                    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-14 00:12 -0700
                    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-14 09:36 -0400
                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 10:32 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 11:24 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 10:42 +0000
                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:12 +0200
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-14 09:32 -0400
                  Re: Parsers (was Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had) Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-14 10:58 -0400
                    Re: Parsers (was Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had)   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 15:25 +0000
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 11:22 +0200
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 10:35 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:16 +0200
                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 20:37 +0000
                    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-14 18:27 -0400
                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 11:24 +0200
                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-15 11:57 +0000
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 14:39 +0200
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-15 08:58 -0400
                          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 15:30 +0200
                            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-15 14:35 +0000
                              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 19:29 +0200
                          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> - 2016-06-15 13:26 -0500
                            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-16 11:18 +0200
                              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-16 09:57 +0000
                                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-16 13:58 +0200
                              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> - 2016-06-16 15:20 -0500
                                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-21 17:17 +0200
                    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 11:21 +0200
                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 12:59 +0200
                    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-15 11:53 +0000
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-13 16:51 -0400
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 11:28 +0200
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 10:47 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:17 +0200
                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 20:55 +0000
                    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 11:31 +0200
                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> - 2016-06-14 18:29 -0400
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-14 04:14 -0700
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-14 11:25 +0000
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:21 +0200
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had koehler@eisner.nospam.decuserve.org (Bob Koehler) - 2016-06-14 09:44 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-14 20:22 +0200
                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-14 19:23 +0000
                    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 11:34 +0200
                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-06-15 03:17 -0700
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2016-06-15 13:04 +0200
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-06-19 05:34 +0200
                          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-18 21:45 -0700
                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:31 +0000
                    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-15 02:36 -0700
                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Hans Vlems <hvlems@freenet.de> - 2016-06-15 11:53 -0700
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-06-15 19:10 +0000
                        Terminals, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:45 +0000
                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-06-16 18:33 +0000
    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-30 02:15 -0700
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Steven Schweda <sms.antinode@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 03:58 -0700
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had hb <end.of@inter.net> - 2016-06-30 14:25 +0200
      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-06-30 11:29 -0400
        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-06-30 15:29 -0700
          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-06-30 20:59 -0400
            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-07-01 11:21 -0400
              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 12:41 -0400
                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-07-01 14:39 -0400
                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-01 15:13 -0700
                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-01 21:31 -0400
                    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-07-02 16:33 -0400
                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 16:57 -0400
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh@hoffmanlabs.invalid> - 2016-07-02 17:34 -0400
                    Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had helbig@asclothestro.multivax.de (Phillip Helbig (undress to reply)) - 2016-07-03 06:40 +0000
                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 00:09 -0700
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Kerry Main" <kemain.nospam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 08:12 -0400
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-07-03 12:35 +0000
                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2016-07-03 10:50 +0200
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-07-03 11:05 +0000
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG - 2016-07-03 12:29 +0000
                      Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-07-03 11:44 +0000
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-07-03 06:59 -0700
                          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> - 2016-07-03 15:58 +0000
                          Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 14:38 -0700
                            Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-07-03 17:53 -0500
                              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 16:19 -0700
                                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com> - 2016-07-03 21:03 -0500
                                  Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 21:11 -0700
                              Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk - 2016-07-04 05:48 -0700
                                Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-04 16:55 -0700
                        Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had lawrencedo99@gmail.com - 2016-07-03 14:33 -0700
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#58261

TDMS was ported along with other products early in the porting process.  I can look up the approximate time, but I recall assisting customers with TDMS applications pre-announcement.

Dan

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#58266

On 2016-06-12 20:06:33 +0000, Robert A. Brooks said:

> On 6/12/2016 12:40 PM, Hans Vlems wrote:
>> Why do you think the TDMS / DECforms / FMS discussions took place? 
>> That's where the user lives and that's where lots of money was spent in 
>> application development. No wonder many customers got severely p*d off 
>> when TDMS was not ported to Alpha.
> 
> Huh?  TDMS runs on both Alpha and IA64.  While I'm not exactly when 
> TDMS was ported to Alpha, I believe it was the early 90's.

TDMS was ported to Alpha and then to Itanium very late (~2004, IIRC), 
long after the cited customer consternation had arisen.

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/journal/v6/index.html#tdms



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#58262

In article <njkfc9$r46$1@dont-email.me>, "Robert A. Brooks"
<FIRST.LAST@vmssoftware.com> writes: 

> On 6/12/2016 12:40 PM, Hans Vlems wrote:
> > Why do you think the TDMS / DECforms / FMS discussions took place? That's
> > where the user lives and that's where lots of money was spent in application
> > development. No wonder many customers got severely p*d off when TDMS was not
> > ported to Alpha.
> 
> Huh?  TDMS runs on both Alpha and IA64.  While I'm not exactly when TDMS was 
> ported to Alpha, I believe it was the early 90's.

Wasn't it like this: At first there was no port, then it was ported due 
to popular demand?  The same with DECnet Phase IV?

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#58270

Yes, TDMS was initially retired and then got ported to Alpha. And it took some customer pressure to make it happen. IIRC the same applied for the IA64 port though it took considerably more effort.
FMS and DECforms were considered superior products.
And they may well be but DEC managed to piss off a lot of senior management in The Netherlands and more importantly in Japan.

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#58250

Den 2016-06-12 kl. 17:14, skrev Johnny Billquist:
> On 2016-06-12 14:47, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>> Den 2016-06-12 kl. 14:12, skrev Johnny Billquist:
>>> That is the question, though. Isn't it? Are the majority of users not
>>> using
>>> DCL in the first place,
>>
>> I'd guess that 1 or 2 out of 1.000 VMS "users" are exposed to DCL.
>
> Interestingly low number, but you might be right on that.
>
>>> then any new features and functionality in there
>>> will not be asked for either.
>>>
>>> It's funny, though. I think we've had a whole bunch of threads where
>>> people
>>
>> Not me. :-)
>
> True.
>
>>> have asked for improvements and replacements for DCL, and now suddenly
>>> everyone...
>>
>> Doesn't seem to be "everyone", see the threads you quoted above. :-)
>
> Yeah, I was deliberately making it a bit more extreme.
>
>>> is saying that this is not needed, and the current DCL is
>>> perfectly fine as it is, along with the terminal driver.
>>>
>>> Oh well. I know that *none* I have ever talked to, who have been
>>> exposed to
>>> shells/CLIs with filename expansion have ever wanted to go back after
>>> that
>>> experience.
>>
>> I have never said that it isn't a good thing. I'm just saying that 99%
>> of our "VMS users" couldn't care less. My customer don't care if this
>> would be nice for *me* to have, if it doesn't make any difference
>> for their factory.
>
> I believe you.
>
>>> But lots of people who have never been exposed to it claim that
>>> it's not a very useful feature.
>>>
>>
>> I have never it isn't a useful feature. It just doesn't matter.
>>
>>> Well, I'm not going to force anyone to use it. I have it in RSX, and that
>>> is my weapon of choice anyway. Another reason not to move to VMS...
>>
>> Most seems to have a hard time getting their sites *stying* with VMS... :-)
>
> Well, here is another thought for you.
> Who are the ones trying to move off from VMS? I doubt it's the users who
> don't even know what a file is, much less a command line interface.
>
> It's more likely the few persons who actually know what a command line
> interface is, and who are doing development, who are the ones that want to
> move to something else...

No, it is those paying the bills and matching the cost against the value
for the site, and they know aboslutely nothing about VMS. The fact that the 
current systems serves the site very well at a low cost, is the
reason the systems are still there. The fact that they run VMS doesn't
matter, as long as that fact doesn't become an issue in itself.

The risk of not beeing able to get competent people to work with the
systems is a far larger "risk" then missing file name completion.

As long as the work and cost to replace the systems is far higher then
to continuing using them, they'll stay. Byt then, we also have to show
they we can follow the stream with web interfaces and other integration
and cooperative features. File name completion is not such an feature.





> So if you want to keep your VMS customers, maybe those few actually carry a
> lot of weight and importance here?
>
>     Johnny
>

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#58252

On 2016-06-12 21:03, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> Den 2016-06-12 kl. 17:14, skrev Johnny Billquist:
>> Well, here is another thought for you.
>> Who are the ones trying to move off from VMS? I doubt it's the users who
>> don't even know what a file is, much less a command line interface.
>>
>> It's more likely the few persons who actually know what a command line
>> interface is, and who are doing development, who are the ones that
>> want to
>> move to something else...
>
> No, it is those paying the bills and matching the cost against the value
> for the site, and they know aboslutely nothing about VMS. The fact that
> the current systems serves the site very well at a low cost, is the
> reason the systems are still there. The fact that they run VMS doesn't
> matter, as long as that fact doesn't become an issue in itself.
>
> The risk of not beeing able to get competent people to work with the
> systems is a far larger "risk" then missing file name completion.

I think that was the point I was trying to make. :-)

> As long as the work and cost to replace the systems is far higher then
> to continuing using them, they'll stay. Byt then, we also have to show
> they we can follow the stream with web interfaces and other integration
> and cooperative features. File name completion is not such an feature.

No. But if developers do not want to work on the system, you will never 
get the functions, and developers usually use the command line interface.

	Johnny

-- 
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                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt@softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
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#58253

Den 2016-06-12 kl. 21:11, skrev Johnny Billquist:
> On 2016-06-12 21:03, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>> Den 2016-06-12 kl. 17:14, skrev Johnny Billquist:
>>> Well, here is another thought for you.
>>> Who are the ones trying to move off from VMS? I doubt it's the users who
>>> don't even know what a file is, much less a command line interface.
>>>
>>> It's more likely the few persons who actually know what a command line
>>> interface is, and who are doing development, who are the ones that
>>> want to
>>> move to something else...
>>
>> No, it is those paying the bills and matching the cost against the value
>> for the site, and they know aboslutely nothing about VMS. The fact that
>> the current systems serves the site very well at a low cost, is the
>> reason the systems are still there. The fact that they run VMS doesn't
>> matter, as long as that fact doesn't become an issue in itself.
>>
>> The risk of not beeing able to get competent people to work with the
>> systems is a far larger "risk" then missing file name completion.
>
> I think that was the point I was trying to make. :-)
>
>> As long as the work and cost to replace the systems is far higher then
>> to continuing using them, they'll stay. Byt then, we also have to show
>> they we can follow the stream with web interfaces and other integration
>> and cooperative features. File name completion is not such an feature.
>
> No. But if developers do not want to work on the system, you will never get
> the functions, and developers usually use the command line interface.
>
>     Johnny
>

Developing is sometimes having three fixed commands (edit, build and run)
and swapping between them with up-arrow with no line editing at all... :-)

Anyway, I can not go to my customer and saying that the support fees now
has rised becuse we now have got file name completion. That is the issue.

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#58256

On 2016-06-12 21:16, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> Den 2016-06-12 kl. 21:11, skrev Johnny Billquist:
>> On 2016-06-12 21:03, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>> Den 2016-06-12 kl. 17:14, skrev Johnny Billquist:
>>>> Well, here is another thought for you.
>>>> Who are the ones trying to move off from VMS? I doubt it's the users
>>>> who
>>>> don't even know what a file is, much less a command line interface.
>>>>
>>>> It's more likely the few persons who actually know what a command line
>>>> interface is, and who are doing development, who are the ones that
>>>> want to
>>>> move to something else...
>>>
>>> No, it is those paying the bills and matching the cost against the value
>>> for the site, and they know aboslutely nothing about VMS. The fact that
>>> the current systems serves the site very well at a low cost, is the
>>> reason the systems are still there. The fact that they run VMS doesn't
>>> matter, as long as that fact doesn't become an issue in itself.
>>>
>>> The risk of not beeing able to get competent people to work with the
>>> systems is a far larger "risk" then missing file name completion.
>>
>> I think that was the point I was trying to make. :-)
>>
>>> As long as the work and cost to replace the systems is far higher then
>>> to continuing using them, they'll stay. Byt then, we also have to show
>>> they we can follow the stream with web interfaces and other integration
>>> and cooperative features. File name completion is not such an feature.
>>
>> No. But if developers do not want to work on the system, you will
>> never get
>> the functions, and developers usually use the command line interface.
>>
>>     Johnny
>>
>
> Developing is sometimes having three fixed commands (edit, build and run)
> and swapping between them with up-arrow with no line editing at all... :-)
>
> Anyway, I can not go to my customer and saying that the support fees now
> has rised becuse we now have got file name completion. That is the issue.

I don't have any easy answers. But not having developers wanting to work 
on a system *is* a problem.

	Johnny

-- 
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                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt@softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
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#58318

Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2016-06-12 21:16, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>> Den 2016-06-12 kl. 21:11, skrev Johnny Billquist:
>>> On 2016-06-12 21:03, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>>> Den 2016-06-12 kl. 17:14, skrev Johnny Billquist:
>>>>> Well, here is another thought for you.
>>>>> Who are the ones trying to move off from VMS? I doubt it's the users
>>>>> who
>>>>> don't even know what a file is, much less a command line interface.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's more likely the few persons who actually know what a command line
>>>>> interface is, and who are doing development, who are the ones that
>>>>> want to
>>>>> move to something else...
>>>>
>>>> No, it is those paying the bills and matching the cost against the 
>>>> value
>>>> for the site, and they know aboslutely nothing about VMS. The fact that
>>>> the current systems serves the site very well at a low cost, is the
>>>> reason the systems are still there. The fact that they run VMS doesn't
>>>> matter, as long as that fact doesn't become an issue in itself.
>>>>
>>>> The risk of not beeing able to get competent people to work with the
>>>> systems is a far larger "risk" then missing file name completion.
>>>
>>> I think that was the point I was trying to make. :-)
>>>
>>>> As long as the work and cost to replace the systems is far higher then
>>>> to continuing using them, they'll stay. Byt then, we also have to show
>>>> they we can follow the stream with web interfaces and other integration
>>>> and cooperative features. File name completion is not such an feature.
>>>
>>> No. But if developers do not want to work on the system, you will
>>> never get
>>> the functions, and developers usually use the command line interface.
>>>
>>>     Johnny
>>>
>>
>> Developing is sometimes having three fixed commands (edit, build and run)
>> and swapping between them with up-arrow with no line editing at all... 
>> :-)
>>
>> Anyway, I can not go to my customer and saying that the support fees now
>> has rised becuse we now have got file name completion. That is the issue.
> 
> I don't have any easy answers. But not having developers wanting to work 
> on a system *is* a problem.
> 
>     Johnny
> 

I don't think that you've proven that developers don't want to work on VMS.  Nor 
do I feel that such is or has ever been the case.

Now, what has happened in the past is that some people have thought that they 
have "seen the writing on the wall", and that if they didn't move to a more 
popular environment they might have a problem finding future employment.  That 
doesn't mean that they wanted to switch, but that they thought they HAD to switch.

I've done several environments in the past, including VMS and weendoze.  So far, 
VMS is still my first choice, if available.

And yes, Edit, Compile, Link, and Run gets the job done.

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#58323

Den 2016-06-13 kl. 20:00, skrev David Froble:
> Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> On 2016-06-12 21:16, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>> Den 2016-06-12 kl. 21:11, skrev Johnny Billquist:
>>>> On 2016-06-12 21:03, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>>>> Den 2016-06-12 kl. 17:14, skrev Johnny Billquist:
>>>>>> Well, here is another thought for you.
>>>>>> Who are the ones trying to move off from VMS? I doubt it's the users
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> don't even know what a file is, much less a command line interface.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's more likely the few persons who actually know what a command line
>>>>>> interface is, and who are doing development, who are the ones that
>>>>>> want to
>>>>>> move to something else...
>>>>>
>>>>> No, it is those paying the bills and matching the cost against the value
>>>>> for the site, and they know aboslutely nothing about VMS. The fact that
>>>>> the current systems serves the site very well at a low cost, is the
>>>>> reason the systems are still there. The fact that they run VMS doesn't
>>>>> matter, as long as that fact doesn't become an issue in itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> The risk of not beeing able to get competent people to work with the
>>>>> systems is a far larger "risk" then missing file name completion.
>>>>
>>>> I think that was the point I was trying to make. :-)
>>>>
>>>>> As long as the work and cost to replace the systems is far higher then
>>>>> to continuing using them, they'll stay. Byt then, we also have to show
>>>>> they we can follow the stream with web interfaces and other integration
>>>>> and cooperative features. File name completion is not such an feature.
>>>>
>>>> No. But if developers do not want to work on the system, you will
>>>> never get
>>>> the functions, and developers usually use the command line interface.
>>>>
>>>>     Johnny
>>>>
>>>
>>> Developing is sometimes having three fixed commands (edit, build and run)
>>> and swapping between them with up-arrow with no line editing at all... :-)
>>>
>>> Anyway, I can not go to my customer and saying that the support fees now
>>> has rised becuse we now have got file name completion. That is the issue.
>>
>> I don't have any easy answers. But not having developers wanting to work
>> on a system *is* a problem.
>>
>>     Johnny
>>
>
> I don't think that you've proven that developers don't want to work on
> VMS.  Nor do I feel that such is or has ever been the case.
>
> Now, what has happened in the past is that some people have thought that
> they have "seen the writing on the wall", and that if they didn't move to a
> more popular environment they might have a problem finding future
> employment...

Today I had a call from a consultant brooker in Sweden. He had seen my
profile on LinkedIn. He had an assignment from a large swedish company
to find 10-20 VMS developers. This was not for a specific project for a
limited time but to fill current vacancies. The guy sounded desperate.

It seems as that company do not advert the VMS positions externally any
more, maybe there is no meaning, they call the jobb brookers instead.

So their is definitely no problem to find OpenVMS work but there is
some issues to find OpenVMS people to fill the vacancies. Anyway,
that didn't suit me at the moment. Too much travel...


> That doesn't mean that they wanted to switch, but that they
> thought they HAD to switch.
>
> I've done several environments in the past, including VMS and weendoze.  So
> far, VMS is still my first choice, if available.
>
> And yes, Edit, Compile, Link, and Run gets the job done.

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#58359

Jan-Erik Soderholm  <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> wrote:
>Today I had a call from a consultant brooker in Sweden. He had seen my
>profile on LinkedIn. He had an assignment from a large swedish company
>to find 10-20 VMS developers. This was not for a specific project for a
>limited time but to fill current vacancies. The guy sounded desperate.
>
>It seems as that company do not advert the VMS positions externally any
>more, maybe there is no meaning, they call the jobb brookers instead.

That is the case with pretty much all technical jobs.  The HR guys,
instead of doing their jobs, contract the work out to headhunters, who
bring in anyone they can find on the street.

>So their is definitely no problem to find OpenVMS work but there is
>some issues to find OpenVMS people to fill the vacancies. Anyway,
>that didn't suit me at the moment. Too much travel...

That's a lot of the problem... people familiar with OpenVMS are going to
be older people who aren't desperate.  Headhunters for the most part are
used to dealing with younger people who are desperate for anything they
can get, and they and the HR people don't know how to get older technical
people.

If I were looking for support VMS systems today, I would consider getting
skilled fresh-outs and teaching them.  But getting skilled fresh-outs who
want to learn an obsolete system is kind of difficult.  They exist, but
they are not thick on the streets.
--scott

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#58452

On 6/14/16 11:28 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Jan-Erik Soderholm  <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> wrote:
>> Today I had a call from a consultant brooker in Sweden. He had seen my
>> profile on LinkedIn. He had an assignment from a large swedish company
>> to find 10-20 VMS developers. This was not for a specific project for a
>> limited time but to fill current vacancies. The guy sounded desperate.
>>
>> It seems as that company do not advert the VMS positions externally any
>> more, maybe there is no meaning, they call the jobb brookers instead.
>
> That is the case with pretty much all technical jobs.  The HR guys,
> instead of doing their jobs, contract the work out to headhunters, who
> bring in anyone they can find on the street.
>

Worse still, they contract resume scanning out to pieces of software
that don't understand anything they read and can only see key words.
Thus, "5 years of experience" trumps "30 years maintaining Unix Systems"
because the program only looks for the word "experience".
Of course, it could be the other way around depending on what the
keyword is.  And you have no way of knowing.


bill

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#58453

In article <dsfrhkFm2i8U1@mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:
>On 6/14/16 11:28 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>> Jan-Erik Soderholm  <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> wrote:
>>> Today I had a call from a consultant brooker in Sweden. He had seen my
>>> profile on LinkedIn. He had an assignment from a large swedish company
>>> to find 10-20 VMS developers. This was not for a specific project for a
>>> limited time but to fill current vacancies. The guy sounded desperate.
>>>
>>> It seems as that company do not advert the VMS positions externally any
>>> more, maybe there is no meaning, they call the jobb brookers instead.
>>
>> That is the case with pretty much all technical jobs.  The HR guys,
>> instead of doing their jobs, contract the work out to headhunters, who
>> bring in anyone they can find on the street.
>>
>
>Worse still, they contract resume scanning out to pieces of software
>that don't understand anything they read and can only see key words.
>Thus, "5 years of experience" trumps "30 years maintaining Unix Systems"
>because the program only looks for the word "experience".
>Of course, it could be the other way around depending on what the
>keyword is.  And you have no way of knowing.

30 years experience  maintaining Unix Systems. ;)

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#58456

On 6/16/16 10:47 AM, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <dsfrhkFm2i8U1@mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:
>> On 6/14/16 11:28 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>> Jan-Erik Soderholm  <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> wrote:
>>>> Today I had a call from a consultant brooker in Sweden. He had seen my
>>>> profile on LinkedIn. He had an assignment from a large swedish company
>>>> to find 10-20 VMS developers. This was not for a specific project for a
>>>> limited time but to fill current vacancies. The guy sounded desperate.
>>>>
>>>> It seems as that company do not advert the VMS positions externally any
>>>> more, maybe there is no meaning, they call the jobb brookers instead.
>>>
>>> That is the case with pretty much all technical jobs.  The HR guys,
>>> instead of doing their jobs, contract the work out to headhunters, who
>>> bring in anyone they can find on the street.
>>>
>>
>> Worse still, they contract resume scanning out to pieces of software
>> that don't understand anything they read and can only see key words.
>> Thus, "5 years of experience" trumps "30 years maintaining Unix Systems"
>> because the program only looks for the word "experience".
>> Of course, it could be the other way around depending on what the
>> keyword is.  And you have no way of knowing.
>
> 30 years experience  maintaining Unix Systems. ;)
>

Which wouldn't be necessary if HR actually involved "Humans".
Applying for a job today is much more about creative writing
than actual skills.

bill

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#58458

In article <dsg1rtFnaahU1@mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:
>On 6/16/16 10:47 AM, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> In article <dsfrhkFm2i8U1@mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:
>>> On 6/14/16 11:28 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>>> Jan-Erik Soderholm  <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> wrote:
>>>>> Today I had a call from a consultant brooker in Sweden. He had seen my
>>>>> profile on LinkedIn. He had an assignment from a large swedish company
>>>>> to find 10-20 VMS developers. This was not for a specific project for a
>>>>> limited time but to fill current vacancies. The guy sounded desperate.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems as that company do not advert the VMS positions externally any
>>>>> more, maybe there is no meaning, they call the jobb brookers instead.
>>>>
>>>> That is the case with pretty much all technical jobs.  The HR guys,
>>>> instead of doing their jobs, contract the work out to headhunters, who
>>>> bring in anyone they can find on the street.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Worse still, they contract resume scanning out to pieces of software
>>> that don't understand anything they read and can only see key words.
>>> Thus, "5 years of experience" trumps "30 years maintaining Unix Systems"
>>> because the program only looks for the word "experience".
>>> Of course, it could be the other way around depending on what the
>>> keyword is.  And you have no way of knowing.
>>
>> 30 years experience  maintaining Unix Systems. ;)
>>
>
>Which wouldn't be necessary if HR actually involved "Humans".
>Applying for a job today is much more about creative writing
>than actual skills.

I can believe that.  Do pretty resumes get the foot further in the door too?

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#58462

On 2016-06-16, VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG <VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote:
>
> Do pretty resumes get the foot further in the door too?
>

Yes, big time. :-(

Style (and I'm not talking about something important like readability)
seems to be just as important as the content to some organisations.

Simon.

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#58475

In article <njuqrh$q8l$4@dont-email.me>, Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
>On 2016-06-16, VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG <VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote:
>>
>> Do pretty resumes get the foot further in the door too?
>>
>
>Yes, big time. :-(
>
>Style (and I'm not talking about something important like readability)
>seems to be just as important as the content to some organisations.

Yeah, I knew the answer.  The question was facetious.

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#58371 — VMS and Sweden, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had

On 2016-06-13, Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> wrote:
>
> Today I had a call from a consultant brooker in Sweden. He had seen my
> profile on LinkedIn. He had an assignment from a large swedish company
> to find 10-20 VMS developers. This was not for a specific project for a
> limited time but to fill current vacancies. The guy sounded desperate.
>

Of course, given recent developments, in the future Clippy's likely to
pop up after the search and ask "Can I interest you in Windows 10
instead ?". :-)

On a more serious note, are you allowed to say who the company is ?

Simon.

-- 
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#58376 — Re: VMS and Sweden, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had

Den 2016-06-14 kl. 21:33, skrev Simon Clubley:
> On 2016-06-13, Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> wrote:
>>
>> Today I had a call from a consultant brooker in Sweden. He had seen my
>> profile on LinkedIn. He had an assignment from a large swedish company
>> to find 10-20 VMS developers. This was not for a specific project for a
>> limited time but to fill current vacancies. The guy sounded desperate.
>>
>
> Of course, given recent developments, in the future Clippy's likely to
> pop up after the search and ask "Can I interest you in Windows 10
> instead ?". :-)
>
> On a more serious note, are you allowed to say who the company is ?
>
> Simon.
>

First, there was a misunderstanding, right *now* it was about one developer
to fill a vacancy in a larger developer/support group. Contract time is
2016-09-01 - 2020-12-31 and I guess there will be other places before
2020. Full time. "OpenVMS, Cobol, SQL, Oracle Rdb, C". It is one of
the major swedish banks and its about software products for "Foreign
Exchange och Money Market".

Due to the fact that many members in the dev.group are bad in English,
spoken and written Swedish seems to be a requirement...

Anyway, 4.5 year fulltime consulting assignment is not too bad.
In particular if your are 4.5 year from retirement yourself... :-)

And it didn't suit me, too much travel.

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#58461 — Re: VMS and Sweden, was: Re: VMS Features I Wish Linux Had

On 2016-06-14, Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> wrote:
>
> First, there was a misunderstanding, right *now* it was about one developer
> to fill a vacancy in a larger developer/support group. Contract time is
> 2016-09-01 - 2020-12-31 and I guess there will be other places before
> 2020. Full time. "OpenVMS, Cobol, SQL, Oracle Rdb, C". It is one of
> the major swedish banks and its about software products for "Foreign
> Exchange och Money Market".
>
> Due to the fact that many members in the dev.group are bad in English,
> spoken and written Swedish seems to be a requirement...
>

Yes, if I was job hunting the Swedish language requirement might be
a bit of a problem. :-)

Thanks for the feedback. It's nice to know there's still new VMS
development going on.

Simon.

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