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  Book source code, The Undocumented PC Trifle Menot <triflemenot@protocol.invalid> - 2017-01-24 17:15 +0000
    Re: Book source code, The Undocumented PC rugxulo@gmail.com - 2017-01-24 12:27 -0800
      Re: Book source code, The Undocumented PC Rod Pemberton <NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> - 2017-01-24 23:04 -0500
        Re: Book source code, The Undocumented PC Trifle Menot <triflemenot@protocol.invalid> - 2017-01-25 14:18 +0000
          Re: Book source code, The Undocumented PC Mathieu Kacou <kacoumathieu@gmail.com> - 2022-01-29 20:17 -0800
    Re: Book source code, The Undocumented PC Bogus@Embarq.com (Steve) - 2017-01-25 12:57 +0000

#2514 — Book source code, The Undocumented PC

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:03:27 GMT, Bogus@Embarq.com (Steve) wrote:

> As mentioned in another posting, SaveDskF is at Hobbes as Loadpf.zip
> and works with OS/2 and DOS.  So I will try mailing that image later today.

Got it. At first, I was puzzled about the size. Then I thought, maybe
savedskf compressed it, in some weird IBM way.

So I went to Hobbes, and searched for Loadpf.zip. No result. Then, I
searched for savedskf, found loaddf.zip, and downloaded that.

Then I ran loaddskf to write your .dsk file back out to 1.44 MB floppy.
That worked.

Then I tried savedskf /n /a but it created a non standard file size,
1.474.601. 

So then I tried savedskf /d /a and that created a normal file size of
1,474,560.

I uploaded it (2nd edition) to 4shared, and updated the 1st edition file
name, to make them sort in order alphabetically.

Here are both links.

http://www.4shared.com/file/l2ovk9Kxba/Undocumented_PC-1e.html

http://www.4shared.com/file/bt-1MSroce/Undocumented_PC-2e.html


Thanks Steve!


<rant on>

Once upon a time, when large computers ruled the land, I liked IBM.

But when the PC era began, IBM's proprietary, anti-competitive, big iron
corporate mentality never translated well to the consumer market.

When they introduced the proprietary PS/2 line, it was all downhill from
there. OS/2 was the final nail in the coffin.

If men could only see the future, just a little glimpse of it, how wise
they might be ...

<rant off>

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#2518

Hi,

On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 11:15:16 AM UTC-6, Trifle Menot wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:03:27 GMT, Bogus@Embarq.nospam (Steve) wrote:
> 
> > As mentioned in another posting, SaveDskF is at Hobbes as Loadpf.zip
> > and works with OS/2 and DOS.  So I will try mailing that image later today.
> 
> Then I ran loaddskf to write your .dsk file back out to 1.44 MB floppy.
> That worked.
> 
> So then I tried savedskf /d /a and that created a normal file size of
> 1,474,560.

FreeDOS DISKCOPY should read/write .IMG from floppy disk:

* http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/diskcopy.html
* http://help.fdos.org/en/hhstndrd/base/diskcopy.htm

Or use Raread/Rawrite:

* http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/disk/raread/
* http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/disk/rawrite/

Or use FDIMAGE:

* http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/5.1-RELEASE/tools/

Or Plop's DISKIMG:

* https://www.plop.at/en/dostools.html

Or (for writing only) use this small (2 kb!) sfx:

https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/tools/sfx14436.zip

> <rant on>
> 
> Once upon a time, when large computers ruled the land, I liked IBM.
> 
> But when the PC era began, IBM's proprietary, anti-competitive, big iron
> corporate mentality never translated well to the consumer market.
> 
> When they introduced the proprietary PS/2 line, it was all downhill from
> there. OS/2 was the final nail in the coffin.
> 
> If men could only see the future, just a little glimpse of it, how wise
> they might be ...
> 
> <rant off>

MS and IBM "divorced" circa 1991, so that didn't help. Win95-era programs
were not directly supported. From what I'm told, OS/2 just didn't have
enough drivers (not to mention networking, which AFAIK wasn't cheap).

Eventually IBM sold/spun off the desktop stuff to Lenovo. But they had
already, years before, recommended everyone switch to Java and Linux.

(Who knows. I'm probably misunderstanding, but it's certainly one big
mess. At least the IBM PC clones still live on, barely.)

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#2519

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:27:30 -0800 (PST)
rugxulo@gmail.com wrote:

> On Tuesday, January 24, 2017 at 11:15:16 AM UTC-6, Trifle Menot wrote:
> > On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:03:27 GMT, Bogus@Embarq.nospam (Steve) wrote:

> > > As mentioned in another posting, SaveDskF is at Hobbes as
> > > Loadpf.zip and works with OS/2 and DOS.  So I will try mailing
> > > that image later today.  
> > 
> > Then I ran loaddskf to write your .dsk file back out to 1.44 MB
> > floppy. That worked.
> > 
> > So then I tried savedskf /d /a and that created a normal file size
> > of 1,474,560.  
> 
> FreeDOS DISKCOPY should read/write .IMG from floppy disk:
> 
> *
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/diskcopy.html
> * http://help.fdos.org/en/hhstndrd/base/diskcopy.htm
> 
> Or use Raread/Rawrite:
> 
> *
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/disk/raread/
> *
> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/util/disk/rawrite/
> 
> Or use FDIMAGE:
> 
> *
> http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/i386/5.1-RELEASE/tools/
> 
> Or Plop's DISKIMG:
> 
> * https://www.plop.at/en/dostools.html
> 
> Or (for writing only) use this small (2 kb!) sfx:
> 
> https://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/tools/sfx14436.zip
> 

After I discovered John Fine's partcopy for DOS or Windows 98/SE, I
stopped using rawread/rawrite.

http://files.osdev.org/mirrors/geezer/johnfine/pcopy02.zip


Rod Pemberton

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#2521

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 23:04:05 -0500, Rod Pemberton
<NeedNotReplyHere@xrsevnneqk.cem> wrote:


>After I discovered John Fine's partcopy for DOS or Windows 98/SE, I
>stopped using rawread/rawrite.

>http://files.osdev.org/mirrors/geezer/johnfine/pcopy02.zip


Looks dangerous for the simple task of making a floppy image. Here's
another utility I found (have not tried though).

http://www.brutman.com/PCjr/downloads/DskImage.zip

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#4145

Hello please can somebody help me !
I'am looking for the source codes of the examples in the book " the undocumented pc by Frank Van Gilluwe"
I will be very happy.

I'm kacoumathieu on gmail

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#2520

Trifle Menot <triflemenot@protocol.invalid> writes:
>On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:03:27 GMT, Bogus@Embarq.com (Steve) wrote:
>
>> As mentioned in another posting, SaveDskF is at Hobbes as Loadpf.zip
>> and works with OS/2 and DOS.  So I will try mailing that image later today.
>
>Got it. At first, I was puzzled about the size. Then I thought, maybe
>savedskf compressed it, in some weird IBM way.

   Yup, compressed.

>So I went to Hobbes, and searched for Loadpf.zip. No result. Then, I
>searched for savedskf, found loaddf.zip, and downloaded that.

   Bad eysight, clumbsy fingers...

>Then I ran loaddskf to write your .dsk file back out to 1.44 MB floppy.
>That worked.
>
>Then I tried savedskf /n /a but it created a non standard file size,
>1.474.601. 
>
>So then I tried savedskf /d /a and that created a normal file size of
>1,474,560.
>
>I uploaded it (2nd edition) to 4shared, and updated the 1st edition file
>name, to make them sort in order alphabetically.
>
>Here are both links.
>
>http://www.4shared.com/file/l2ovk9Kxba/Undocumented_PC-1e.html
>
>http://www.4shared.com/file/bt-1MSroce/Undocumented_PC-2e.html
>
>
>Thanks Steve!

   You are welcome.

Regards,

Steve N.

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