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Re: Turbo Vision ... MS-DOS 5 Shell?

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  Re: Turbo Vision ... MS-DOS 5 Shell? Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-08-05 04:13 +0800
    Re: Turbo Vision ... MS-DOS 5 Shell? usenet@dolik.dev (Andriy D) - 2026-08-05 11:38 +0000
    Re: Turbo Vision ... MS-DOS 5 Shell? JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-08-05 20:46 +0700

#4561 — Re: Turbo Vision ... MS-DOS 5 Shell?

On 31/07/2026 10:42 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 7/29/2026 8:57 PM, Bonita Montero wrote:
>>
>> I used TV in the 90s for a machine control app under DOS. I liked
>> it also that days but from a today's view it's not good OOP, just
>> as Microsoft Foundation Classes.
> 
> 
> I remember it. But it never took off, right?
> You have to mention DOS 5's shell as well,
> and maybe Norton Commander?
> 
> The same went to Turbo C++ and then Borland
> C++.
> 
> MS-DOS Shell - BetaWiki
> <https://betawiki.net/wiki/MS-DOS_Shell>
> 
> Norton Commander - Wikipedia
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Commander>
> 

I remember DOS 5's shell.  I didn't use it much,
nor Norton Commander.  On the other tentacle, I
sometimes use Far Manager in modern Windows.  It's
nice enough, but I've not gotten used to it yet.

Can you recommend a better Norton Commander clone?
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#4563

In comp.os.msdos.programmer Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> wrote:

> I remember DOS 5's shell.  I didn't use it much,
> nor Norton Commander.  On the other tentacle, I
> sometimes use Far Manager in modern Windows.  It's
> nice enough, but I've not gotten used to it yet.
> 
> Can you recommend a better Norton Commander clone?

You can try Total Commander for more 'windows' look & feel. Midnight Commander is an OSS NC clone close to the original NC worth looking at too, as it works on Linux and UNIX in general.

TTY,
\aID 

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On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 04:13:14 +0800, Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson wrote:
> 
> I remember DOS 5's shell.  I didn't use it much,
> nor Norton Commander.  On the other tentacle, I
> sometimes use Far Manager in modern Windows.  It's
> nice enough, but I've not gotten used to it yet.
> 
> Can you recommend a better Norton Commander clone?

Volkov Commander shareware (but includes source code in their site).
Probably the best one, assuming that, free and non-free is not an issue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkov_Commander?useskin=vector

Dos Navigator open source freeware. The only alternative to NC which is
free. But it uses Turbo Vision, so it's not memory efficient.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOS_Navigator?useskin=vector

Other NC alternatives are not included, since they're either not true NC
alternative (e.g. DOS Shell), or not a proper _DOS_ file manager (e.g.
Midnight Commander, including all cross-platform ones).

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