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Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator

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  Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator epascual632@gmail.com - 2019-06-12 16:00 -0700
    Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-12 17:59 -0600
      Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-06-13 00:09 +0000
        Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator epascual632@gmail.com - 2019-06-12 17:16 -0700
          Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-06-13 00:26 +0000
          Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-12 20:28 -0600
            Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator epascual632@gmail.com - 2019-06-12 19:42 -0700
              Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-12 21:32 -0600
                Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator epascual632@gmail.com - 2019-06-13 01:56 -0700
                  Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-13 09:22 -0600
                Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-13 12:16 +0200
                  Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-13 09:28 -0600
                    Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-13 18:07 +0200
                      Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-13 11:38 -0600
                        Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-06-13 18:57 +0000
                  Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator Scott Hemphill <hemphill@hemphills.net> - 2019-06-14 11:27 -0400
                    Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-14 13:01 -0600
    Re: Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2019-06-16 07:57 -0400

#4403 — Wyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator

Fromepascual632@gmail.com
Date2019-06-12 16:00 -0700
SubjectWyse WY60 GUI Terminal Emulator
Message-ID<56615354-f6c4-42de-88c8-78b781cdffd6@googlegroups.com>
Hello! I am looking for a cheap Terminal Emulator to emulate a WY60 terminal. Are there any other good recommendations besides ZOC, PowerTerm, Anzio Lite?

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#4404

FromGrant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Date2019-06-12 17:59 -0600
Message-ID<qds3mb$v4t$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
In reply to#4403
On 6/12/19 5:00 PM, epascual632@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello! I am looking for a cheap Terminal Emulator to emulate a WY60 
> terminal. Are there any other good recommendations besides ZOC, 
> PowerTerm, Anzio Lite?

What features does the WY60 have that XTerm doesn't support?



-- 
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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#4405

FromWilliam Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Date2019-06-13 00:09 +0000
Message-ID<qds48b$6na$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#4404
On 2019-06-12, Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
> On 6/12/19 5:00 PM, epascual632@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hello! I am looking for a cheap Terminal Emulator to emulate a WY60 
>> terminal. Are there any other good recommendations besides ZOC, 
>> PowerTerm, Anzio Lite?
>
> What features does the WY60 have that XTerm doesn't support?

It had a crude dot matrix display.
>
>
>

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#4406

Fromepascual632@gmail.com
Date2019-06-12 17:16 -0700
Message-ID<b4a9704c-f9ce-4149-a6f4-1cf5a5a5d6a9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#4405
On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 8:09:52 AM UTC+8, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2019-06-12, Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
> > On 6/12/19 5:00 PM, epascual632@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Hello! I am looking for a cheap Terminal Emulator to emulate a WY60 
> >> terminal. Are there any other good recommendations besides ZOC, 
> >> PowerTerm, Anzio Lite?
> >
> > What features does the WY60 have that XTerm doesn't support?
> 
> It had a crude dot matrix display.
> >
> >
> >

Does XTerm support keyboard mapping and color capabilities? 
The objective is to emulate the terminal to a VGA output from an RS-232

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#4407

FromWilliam Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Date2019-06-13 00:26 +0000
Message-ID<qds584$a73$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#4406
On 2019-06-13, epascual632@gmail.com <epascual632@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 8:09:52 AM UTC+8, William Unruh wrote:
>> On 2019-06-12, Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
>> > On 6/12/19 5:00 PM, epascual632@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> Hello! I am looking for a cheap Terminal Emulator to emulate a WY60 
>> >> terminal. Are there any other good recommendations besides ZOC, 
>> >> PowerTerm, Anzio Lite?
>> >
>> > What features does the WY60 have that XTerm doesn't support?
>> 
>> It had a crude dot matrix display.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
> Does XTerm support keyboard mapping and color capabilities? 
> The objective is to emulate the terminal to a VGA output from an RS-232

I am not at all clear what that second sentence means.
Yes, Linux supprts keyboard mapping (mapping of what? -- do you want "a"
to actually put out a q for example? Or just some special keys. 
And what doees "emulate the terminal to a VGa output from an RS232"
mean? Perhaps you might want to be a bit more expansive as to what you
want and why you want it. 

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#4408

FromGrant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Date2019-06-12 20:28 -0600
Message-ID<qdscdh$r08$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
In reply to#4406
On 6/12/19 6:16 PM, epascual632@gmail.com wrote:
> Does XTerm support keyboard mapping and color capabilities?

Yes, XTerm supports color.  I've recently been doing 256 color SIXEL 
graphics in XTerm.

"Keyboard mapping" is a little vague.  Yes, you can re-map keys or 
combinations of keys to do things.  Please be more specific and / or 
provide an example of what "keyboard mapping" means to you.

> The objective is to emulate the terminal to a VGA output from an RS-232

Well, XTerm is a terminal emulator for X11.  (It probably works on other 
things too, but I'm not sure.)

You would run a serial communications package to get it's I/O via the 
serial port and then render in the terminal emulator.  minicom, cu, 
screen, kermit, and many other things can do this.



-- 
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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#4409

Fromepascual632@gmail.com
Date2019-06-12 19:42 -0700
Message-ID<7fa47386-f5dd-4335-9885-2692ccd2ab71@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#4408
On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 10:28:49 AM UTC+8, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 6/12/19 6:16 PM, epascual632@gmail.com wrote:
> > Does XTerm support keyboard mapping and color capabilities?
> 
> Yes, XTerm supports color.  I've recently been doing 256 color SIXEL 
> graphics in XTerm.
> 
> "Keyboard mapping" is a little vague.  Yes, you can re-map keys or 
> combinations of keys to do things.  Please be more specific and / or 
> provide an example of what "keyboard mapping" means to you.
> 
> > The objective is to emulate the terminal to a VGA output from an RS-232
> 
> Well, XTerm is a terminal emulator for X11.  (It probably works on other 
> things too, but I'm not sure.)
> 
> You would run a serial communications package to get it's I/O via the 
> serial port and then render in the terminal emulator.  minicom, cu, 
> screen, kermit, and many other things can do this.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die

Thanks for the replies, William & Grant.
The objective is to re-map the keys (from Q to an A)

The WY60 terminal itself uses a monochrome monitor. The terminal emulator will need to be able to change the color of some texts within the terminal. 

There will be an external Windows 10 PC which will run the terminal emulator software and will be connected to the WY60 terminal via USB-to-RS232 cable or an RJ45.

The final goal is to emulate the WY60 terminal using an external PC and project the display to a colored LCD Monitor.

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#4410

FromGrant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Date2019-06-12 21:32 -0600
Message-ID<qdsg5h$cd2$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
In reply to#4409
On 6/12/19 8:42 PM, epascual632@gmail.com wrote:
> Thanks for the replies, William & Grant.

:-)

> The objective is to re-map the keys (from Q to an A)

Okay.

I'm ignorant of why someone would want to do that.  But I bet that XTerm 
can do it.

Check XTerm's man page for details.

> The WY60 terminal itself uses a monochrome monitor.

Okay.

> The terminal emulator will need to be able to change the color of 
> some texts within the terminal.

Please elaborate what sort of color change would be needed.

I know that the standard VGA colors show up differently on a color 
monitor than a black and white monitor.  In such as the colors, 0-15, 
show up as grey and that the color to black and white mapping isn't in 
in sequence from the black to white.

I know that you can easily redefine the RGB value for the colors in 
XTerm (per window profile if you want) to be anything you'd like.  So 
you can tweak the RGB values for each color such that 0 was black, 15 
was bright white, and everything in between scaled as desired.

I'm betting that you can probably achieve what you want.

X11 and XTerm are a bit odd / esoteric in how this is done.  I'm happy 
to help if / when you want to set this up.

You can even make one XTerm (profile) be the black and white (grey 
scale) and a different XTerm (profile) be default colors or something else.

> There will be an external Windows 10 PC which will run the terminal 
> emulator software and will be connected to the WY60 terminal via 
> USB-to-RS232 cable or an RJ45.

Why is Windows running the terminal emulation software?  I thought you 
were wanting to do this on Linux.  (This is comp.os.linux.networking.  ;-)

Or do you mean that the Windows PC is running the program producing the 
data that will appear on the (emulated) WY60 terminal?

> The final goal is to emulate the WY60 terminal using an external PC 
> and project the display to a colored LCD Monitor.

Okay.



-- 
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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#4411

Fromepascual632@gmail.com
Date2019-06-13 01:56 -0700
Message-ID<a1b326c1-f886-41f6-8bdd-b9dd16423c9d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#4410
On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 11:32:49 AM UTC+8, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 6/12/19 8:42 PM, epascual632@gmail.com wrote:
> > Thanks for the replies, William & Grant.
> 
> :-)
> 
> > The objective is to re-map the keys (from Q to an A)
> 
> Okay.
> 
> I'm ignorant of why someone would want to do that.  But I bet that XTerm 
> can do it.
> 
> Check XTerm's man page for details.
> 
> > The WY60 terminal itself uses a monochrome monitor.
> 
> Okay.
> 
> > The terminal emulator will need to be able to change the color of 
> > some texts within the terminal.
> 
> Please elaborate what sort of color change would be needed.
> 
> I know that the standard VGA colors show up differently on a color 
> monitor than a black and white monitor.  In such as the colors, 0-15, 
> show up as grey and that the color to black and white mapping isn't in 
> in sequence from the black to white.
> 
> I know that you can easily redefine the RGB value for the colors in 
> XTerm (per window profile if you want) to be anything you'd like.  So 
> you can tweak the RGB values for each color such that 0 was black, 15 
> was bright white, and everything in between scaled as desired.
> 
> I'm betting that you can probably achieve what you want.
> 
> X11 and XTerm are a bit odd / esoteric in how this is done.  I'm happy 
> to help if / when you want to set this up.
> 
> You can even make one XTerm (profile) be the black and white (grey 
> scale) and a different XTerm (profile) be default colors or something else.
> 
> > There will be an external Windows 10 PC which will run the terminal 
> > emulator software and will be connected to the WY60 terminal via 
> > USB-to-RS232 cable or an RJ45.
> 
> Why is Windows running the terminal emulation software?  I thought you 
> were wanting to do this on Linux.  (This is comp.os.linux.networking.  ;-)
> 
> Or do you mean that the Windows PC is running the program producing the 
> data that will appear on the (emulated) WY60 terminal?
> 
> > The final goal is to emulate the WY60 terminal using an external PC 
> > and project the display to a colored LCD Monitor.
> 
> Okay.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Grant. . . .
> unix || die

Hello there Grant! Sorry for the late reply! 

I just installed XTerm on my Ubuntu machine (VMWare). 
Would you kindly walk me through about how changing the colors and the command on how to set the comm port for Xterm to emulate the WY60 machine.

Thanks for the help!

-Ed

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#4413

FromGrant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Date2019-06-13 09:22 -0600
Message-ID<qdtpp4$f39$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
In reply to#4411
On 6/13/19 2:56 AM, epascual632@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello there Grant!

Hi,

> Sorry for the late reply!

Nonsense.  This is Usenet.  Usenet, and email, is inherently at the 
readers convenience.  Messages are waiting for when it's convenient for 
you as the reader to read and optionally respond to them.

You replied within a day.  So I don't think anyone has any room to complain.

> I just installed XTerm on my Ubuntu machine (VMWare).

Okay.

> Would you kindly walk me through about how changing the colors and 
> the command on how to set the comm port for Xterm to emulate the 
> WY60 machine.

Sure.

Do you want to change the XTerm default colors?  Or do you want to set 
up another ""profile (imprecise description, but it works) so that you 
can use your custom colors for the specific application and default for 
a different application?

XTerm itself does not support the serial port.  You will run something 
like minicom or cu or screen inside XTerm and those programs will talk 
to the serial port.

What serial port are you working with?

I think you mentioned a USB-to-Serial adapter.  That will probably show 
up as /dev/ttyUSB0 or something similar.

> Thanks for the help!

You're welcome.



-- 
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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#4412

FromAragorn <thorongil@telenet.be>
Date2019-06-13 12:16 +0200
Message-ID<20190613121600.4748f0c8@nx-74205>
In reply to#4410
On 12.06.2019 at 21:32, Grant Taylor scribbled:

> On 6/12/19 8:42 PM, epascual632@gmail.com wrote:
> > Thanks for the replies, William & Grant.  
> 
> :-)
> 
> > The objective is to re-map the keys (from Q to an A)  
> 
> Okay.
> 
> I'm ignorant of why someone would want to do that.

Because not all countries use a QWERTY keyboard layout, perhaps?  I'm
in Belgium and we have AZERTY keybords.  So do the French — which is
why Belgium has adopted it [*] — but there are a few small
differences between the Belgian and French keyboard layouts.  Germans
on the other hand use QWERTZ keyboards.


[*] This dates back to the world of typewriters, and the fact that
    even though 55% of the Belgian population speaks (a dialectic form
    of) Dutch, with 40% of the population speaking French and 5%
    speaking German, Belgium was officially an exclusively francophone
    country up until 1960.  Only after 1960 were Dutch and German
    recognized as official languages, and it took a lot of "social
    unrest" to get us there.

-- 
With respect,
= Aragorn =

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#4414

FromGrant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Date2019-06-13 09:28 -0600
Message-ID<qdtq37$u1s$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
In reply to#4412
On 6/13/19 4:16 AM, Aragorn wrote:
> Because not all countries use a QWERTY keyboard layout, perhaps?

I would expect such users to have a keyboard that is their native layout 
and / or using a system wide profile to specify their preferred keyboard 
layout.

Using such means that things like XTerm (almost all programs) will 
inherit the users preferred keyboard layout.  As such, I still don't 
understand the need to alter keys from the users preferred layout to 
something else.

> I'm in Belgium and we have AZERTY keybords.  So do the French — 
> which is why Belgium has adopted it [*] — but there are a few 
> small differences between the Belgian and French keyboard layouts. 
> Germans on the other hand use QWERTZ keyboards.

I'm ignorant of what the differences are.  But I'm not at all surprised 
that there are differences.  I would actually expect that there are 
differences.

I would also expect that a very large portion of those preferences are 
accounted for by the physical keyboard that's used and / or system wide 
preferences for the keyboard layout.

So, given the presumption that your keyboard places the Q and A keys 
appropriately for your language / region of the world, why would you 
want to trade the Q and A keys?  (Substitute any other keys for the sake 
of discussion.)

I'm sure there are reasons, I just don't know what they are.  It could 
be something as simple as "Because I want to!".



-- 
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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#4415

FromAragorn <thorongil@telenet.be>
Date2019-06-13 18:07 +0200
Message-ID<20190613180726.0bf70284@nx-74205>
In reply to#4414
On 13.06.2019 at 09:28, Grant Taylor scribbled:

> On 6/13/19 4:16 AM, Aragorn wrote:
>
> > Because not all countries use a QWERTY keyboard layout, perhaps?  
> 
> I would expect such users to have a keyboard that is their native
> layout and / or using a system wide profile to specify their
> preferred keyboard layout.
> 
> Using such means that things like XTerm (almost all programs) will 
> inherit the users preferred keyboard layout.  As such, I still don't 
> understand the need to alter keys from the users preferred layout to 
> something else.
>
> [...]
>
> I'm sure there are reasons, I just don't know what they are.  It
> could be something as simple as "Because I want to!".

Well — cynical hat on — say that you are in a country that uses a
particular keyboard layout A, and you want to remotely log in to a
compromised machine in a country that natively uses a different
keyboard layout B, but you don't know how to invoke a different
keyboard layout in UNIX, or you are afraid that if you do so, you will
be caught by the legitimate owner of the account you are illegitimately
logging into...

Hey, this is Usenet, and I've seen people ask about the weirdest things
here, some of which were undoubtedly unethical.  Or homework
assignments.  I've even seen a guy asking help on downloading porn,
thereby including explicit links in his posts to the pornographic
images he wanted.  Some people are apparently not familiar with the
concept of embarrassment.

The OP is not visible in my news feed, suggesting that they are posting
through Google Groups, which I am filtering out.  The fact that they
identify with a GMail address — as gleaned from your replies to them —
rather than with a proper name also suggests that this would be the
case.

Fact is that we never know whom or what we're dealing with on Usenet,
and least of all when they are Google Groups users.  And this one
simply smells fishy to me. :|

-- 
With respect,
= Aragorn =

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#4416

FromGrant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Date2019-06-13 11:38 -0600
Message-ID<qdu1mn$5t6$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
In reply to#4415
On 6/13/19 10:07 AM, Aragorn wrote:
> Well — cynical hat on — say that you are in a country that uses 
> a particular keyboard layout A, and you want to remotely log in to 
> a compromised machine in a country that natively uses a different 
> keyboard layout B, but you don't know how to invoke a different 
> keyboard layout in UNIX, or you are afraid that if you do so, you will 
> be caught by the legitimate owner of the account you are illegitimately 
> logging into...

Um....  I thought that all remote connections, especially textual 
connections, didn't actually care where the keys were.  If you type an 
"A" on your keyboard, wherever it is, an "A" should come out on the 
other end.

None of the systems that I administer at work care that I use a QWERTY 
keyboard layout and that my co-administrator uses a Dvorak keyboard 
layout.  The systems that we administer just see the commands that we 
type, "ifconfig", "route", "ls", "cd", etc.

I would /expect/ that other keyboard layouts work the same way.

> Hey, this is Usenet, and I've seen people ask about the weirdest 
> things here, some of which were undoubtedly unethical.

Yep.

> Or homework assignments.

I'm okay with people asking for /help/ understanding their homework.  I 
am opposed to people asking others to do the poster's homework.

> I've even seen a guy asking help on downloading porn, thereby including 
> explicit links in his posts to the pornographic images he wanted.  Some 
> people are apparently not familiar with the concept of embarrassment.

Was he really asking?  Or was it a ruse to distribute links to porn?  ;-)

> The OP is not visible in my news feed, suggesting that they are posting 
> through Google Groups, which I am filtering out.  The fact that they 
> identify with a GMail address — as gleaned from your replies to them 
> — rather than with a proper name also suggests that this would be 
> the case.

Yep, the OP is from Google Groups.

Path: …!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail

I've read comments that posting based on the From: address is not 
reliable.  Primarily because someone can post using a Gmail address to 
any server.  But only Google Groups will have googlegroups.com as the 
posting host in the Path: header.

> Fact is that we never know whom or what we're dealing with on Usenet, 
> and least of all when they are Google Groups users.

True.

> And this one simply smells fishy to me. :|

I don't see anything unusual about this thread.



-- 
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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#4417

FromWilliam Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Date2019-06-13 18:57 +0000
Message-ID<qdu69u$m65$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#4416
On 2019-06-13, Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
> On 6/13/19 10:07 AM, Aragorn wrote:
>> Well — cynical hat on — say that you are in a country that uses 
>> a particular keyboard layout A, and you want to remotely log in to 
>> a compromised machine in a country that natively uses a different 
>> keyboard layout B, but you don't know how to invoke a different 
>> keyboard layout in UNIX, or you are afraid that if you do so, you will 
>> be caught by the legitimate owner of the account you are illegitimately 
>> logging into...
>
> Um....  I thought that all remote connections, especially textual 
> connections, didn't actually care where the keys were.  If you type an 
> "A" on your keyboard, wherever it is, an "A" should come out on the 
> other end.

No. The keyboard simply sends a key position to the computer. The
computer than interprets that as a character. That key table is
alterable. There are a bunch of standards as to what key numbers are
sent which is why you are asked when you install any distro what
keyboard you are using (eg US International, or Mongolian or whatever).
>
> None of the systems that I administer at work care that I use a QWERTY 
> keyboard layout and that my co-administrator uses a Dvorak keyboard 
> layout.  The systems that we administer just see the commands that we 
> type, "ifconfig", "route", "ls", "cd", etc.

Yes, after the system has assigned the key numbers to the letters. 

>
> I would /expect/ that other keyboard layouts work the same way.
>
>> Hey, this is Usenet, and I've seen people ask about the weirdest 
>> things here, some of which were undoubtedly unethical.
>
> Yep.
>
>> Or homework assignments.
>
> I'm okay with people asking for /help/ understanding their homework.  I 
> am opposed to people asking others to do the poster's homework.
>
>> I've even seen a guy asking help on downloading porn, thereby including 
>> explicit links in his posts to the pornographic images he wanted.  Some 
>> people are apparently not familiar with the concept of embarrassment.
>
> Was he really asking?  Or was it a ruse to distribute links to porn?  ;-)
>
>> The OP is not visible in my news feed, suggesting that they are posting 
>> through Google Groups, which I am filtering out.  The fact that they 
>> identify with a GMail address — as gleaned from your replies to them 
>> — rather than with a proper name also suggests that this would be 
>> the case.
>
> Yep, the OP is from Google Groups.
>
> Path: …!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
>
> I've read comments that posting based on the From: address is not 
> reliable.  Primarily because someone can post using a Gmail address to 
> any server.  But only Google Groups will have googlegroups.com as the 
> posting host in the Path: header.
>
>> Fact is that we never know whom or what we're dealing with on Usenet, 
>> and least of all when they are Google Groups users.
>
> True.
>
>> And this one simply smells fishy to me. :|
>
> I don't see anything unusual about this thread.

He has after number tries, refused to say what he is trying to do, and
why in the world he would want to emulate  a 40 year old
keyboard/terminal/..., and then he wants one of us to do all of the work
for him. I also find it somewhat fishy.
>
>
>

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#4418

FromScott Hemphill <hemphill@hemphills.net>
Date2019-06-14 11:27 -0400
Message-ID<8736kcgpbf.fsf@hemphills.net>
In reply to#4412
Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> writes:

> On 12.06.2019 at 21:32, Grant Taylor scribbled:
>
>> On 6/12/19 8:42 PM, epascual632@gmail.com wrote:
>> > Thanks for the replies, William & Grant.  
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> > The objective is to re-map the keys (from Q to an A)  
>> 
>> Okay.
>> 
>> I'm ignorant of why someone would want to do that.
>
> Because not all countries use a QWERTY keyboard layout, perhaps?  I'm
> in Belgium and we have AZERTY keybords.  So do the French — which is
> why Belgium has adopted it [*] — but there are a few small
> differences between the Belgian and French keyboard layouts.  Germans
> on the other hand use QWERTZ keyboards.

I haven't followed the whole thread, but I would expect distributions to
have a keyboard choice during installation.

For after-the-fact modifications, I use setxkbmap, which sets the
keyboard for X, not just the terminal window:

setxkbmap -rules xorg -model pc105 -layout "us,se" -option "grp:rwin_toggle" -option "grp_led:scroll"

This allows me to use the right window key to toggle between US and
Swedish layouts, and to see the status in the scroll LED.

Scott
-- 
Scott Hemphill	hemphill@alumni.caltech.edu
"This isn't flying.  This is falling, with style."  -- Buzz Lightyear

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#4419

FromGrant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Date2019-06-14 13:01 -0600
Message-ID<qe0qu7$67c$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
In reply to#4418
On 6/14/19 9:27 AM, Scott Hemphill wrote:
> For after-the-fact modifications, I use setxkbmap, which sets the keyboard 
> for X, not just the terminal window:
> 
> setxkbmap -rules xorg -model pc105 -layout "us,se" -option 
> "grp:rwin_toggle" -option "grp_led:scroll"
> 
> This allows me to use the right window key to toggle between US and 
> Swedish layouts, and to see the status in the scroll LED.

You can do similar with xmodmap.  Here's sample code that switches the 
Escape and Caps-Lock key that a lot of Vim users like.

# cat cl-to-esc.xmodmap
! Swap caps lock and escape
remove Lock = Caps_Lock
keysym Escape = Caps_Lock
keysym Caps_Lock = Escape
add Lock = Caps_Lock
# xmodmap cl-to-esc.xmodmap



-- 
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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#4420

FromStefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Date2019-06-16 07:57 -0400
Message-ID<jwvef3tagl1.fsf-monnier+comp.os.linux.networking@gnu.org>
In reply to#4403
> Hello! I am looking for a cheap Terminal Emulator to emulate a WY60
> terminal. Are there any other good recommendations besides ZOC, PowerTerm,
> Anzio Lite?

And what does this have to do with "linux.networking"?


        Stefan

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