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bridging hotel WLAN

Started byLaszlo Lebrun <lazlo.lebrun@googlemail.com>
First post2016-05-10 11:10 +0200
Last post2016-05-15 13:04 +0200
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  bridging hotel WLAN Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo.lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2016-05-10 11:10 +0200
    Re: bridging hotel WLAN "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-05-10 13:13 +0200
    Re: bridging hotel WLAN William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-05-10 14:49 +0000
      Re: bridging hotel WLAN Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo.lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2016-05-10 21:59 +0200
        Re: bridging hotel WLAN Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2016-05-11 00:03 +0000
    Re: bridging hotel WLAN Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2016-05-10 17:12 -0400
      Re: bridging hotel WLAN Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo.lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2016-05-11 03:12 +0200
    Re: bridging hotel WLAN Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo.lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2016-05-13 14:58 +0200
      Re: bridging hotel WLAN William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-05-13 15:31 +0000
        Re: bridging hotel WLAN Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo.lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2016-05-13 20:08 +0200
    Re: bridging hotel WLAN Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-05-14 10:43 +0200
      Re: bridging hotel WLAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-14 15:53 +0000
        Re: bridging hotel WLAN "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-05-14 18:41 +0200
          Re: bridging hotel WLAN Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo.lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2016-05-14 19:50 +0200
            Re: bridging hotel WLAN "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-05-14 22:03 +0200
          Re: bridging hotel WLAN Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-05-15 11:05 +0200
            Re: bridging hotel WLAN "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-05-15 13:18 +0200
              Re: bridging hotel WLAN Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-05-15 14:44 +0200
                Re: bridging hotel WLAN "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-05-15 18:42 +0200
                  Re: bridging hotel WLAN Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-05-15 22:39 +0300
                Re: bridging hotel WLAN Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo.lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2016-05-15 23:40 +0200
                  Re: bridging hotel WLAN Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-05-20 00:35 +0200
                    Re: bridging hotel WLAN Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-05-20 14:55 +0300
                      Re: bridging hotel WLAN JT <JT-reply-only@newsgroup.nl> - 2016-05-20 15:09 +0200
                        Re: bridging hotel WLAN Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-05-20 17:44 +0300
                          Re: bridging hotel WLAN Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-20 15:28 +0000
                            Re: bridging hotel WLAN Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2016-05-20 18:58 +0300
                      Re: bridging hotel WLAN Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-05-22 11:41 +0200
      Re: bridging hotel WLAN Andy Furniss <spam@spam> - 2016-05-15 11:10 +0100
        Re: bridging hotel WLAN Andy Furniss <spam@spam> - 2016-05-15 11:44 +0100
          Re: bridging hotel WLAN Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2016-05-15 13:04 +0200

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#3772

FromLaszlo Lebrun <lazlo.lebrun@googlemail.com>
Date2016-05-15 23:40 +0200
Message-ID<nhaqce$7q6$1@tota-refugium.de>
In reply to#3769
Pascal Hambourg hat uns dieses gebracht :
> Carlos E. R. a écrit :
>> 
>> Sorry, but I don't understand. The OP was not really talking of
>> "bridging", he confused the name.
>
> How do you know ?
> The OP obviously wanted to do "connection sharing", and there are two
> usual ways to achieve it : bridging or routing (+masquerading). So what
> makes you think that he was not really trying to use bridging ?

Let me apologize: I wrongly used "bridging" wat I needed is called WISP 
mode (masquerading)

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#3773

FromPascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org>
Date2016-05-20 00:35 +0200
Message-ID<nhlf2t$66j$2@saria.nerim.net>
In reply to#3772
Laszlo Lebrun a écrit :
> 
> Let me apologize: I wrongly used "bridging" wat I needed is called WISP 
> mode (masquerading)

Wha is "WISP mode" ? Never heard of it.

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#3774

FromTauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid>
Date2016-05-20 14:55 +0300
Message-ID<nhmtns$3qs$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3773
On 20.5.16 01:35, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Laszlo Lebrun a écrit :
>>
>> Let me apologize: I wrongly used "bridging" wat I needed is called WISP
>> mode (masquerading)
>
> Wha is "WISP mode" ? Never heard of it.


It is a FLA for Wireless Internet Service Provider, a glorified access 
point.

(what is FLA: Four Letter Abbreviation)

The OP is outside of the proper networking terminology like a garden 
hose. He's trying to cove it with abbreviations found from the press.

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-TV

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#3775

FromJT <JT-reply-only@newsgroup.nl>
Date2016-05-20 15:09 +0200
Message-ID<573f0ca4$0$4234$e4fe514c@newszilla.xs4all.nl>
In reply to#3774
On 20/05/16 13:55, Tauno Voipio wrote:
> On 20.5.16 01:35, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>> Laszlo Lebrun a écrit :
>>>
>>> Let me apologize: I wrongly used "bridging" wat I needed is called WISP
>>> mode (masquerading)
>>
>> Wha is "WISP mode" ? Never heard of it.
>
>
> It is a FLA for Wireless Internet Service Provider, a glorified access
> point.
>
> (what is FLA: Four Letter Abbreviation)
>
> The OP is outside of the proper networking terminology like a garden
> hose. He's trying to cove it with abbreviations found from the press.
>
You mean that FLA is a TLA for Four Letter Abbreviation?

;-)


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Greets, JT

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#3776

FromTauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid>
Date2016-05-20 17:44 +0300
Message-ID<nhn7m0$bat$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3775
On 20.5.16 16:09, JT wrote:
> On 20/05/16 13:55, Tauno Voipio wrote:
>> On 20.5.16 01:35, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>>> Laszlo Lebrun a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Let me apologize: I wrongly used "bridging" wat I needed is called WISP
>>>> mode (masquerading)
>>>
>>> Wha is "WISP mode" ? Never heard of it.
>>
>>
>> It is a FLA for Wireless Internet Service Provider, a glorified access
>> point.
>>
>> (what is FLA: Four Letter Abbreviation)
>>
>> The OP is outside of the proper networking terminology like a garden
>> hose. He's trying to cove it with abbreviations found from the press.
>>
> You mean that FLA is a TLA for Four Letter Abbreviation?
>
> ;-)


Exactly.

-- 

-TV

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#3777

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2016-05-20 15:28 +0000
Message-ID<nhnaem099f@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#3776
On 2016-05-20, Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> wrote:

> On 20.5.16 16:09, JT wrote:
>
>> On 20/05/16 13:55, Tauno Voipio wrote:
>>
>>> On 20.5.16 01:35, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>>>
>>>> Laszlo Lebrun a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Let me apologize: I wrongly used "bridging" wat I needed is called WISP
>>>>> mode (masquerading)
>>>>
>>>> Wha is "WISP mode" ? Never heard of it.
>>>
>>> It is a FLA for Wireless Internet Service Provider, a glorified access
>>> point.
>>>
>>> (what is FLA: Four Letter Abbreviation)
>>>
>>> The OP is outside of the proper networking terminology like a garden
>>> hose. He's trying to cove it with abbreviations found from the press.
>>>
>> You mean that FLA is a TLA for Four Letter Abbreviation?
>>
>> ;-)
>
> Exactly.

That's why it needs a better name.

How about ETLA (Extended Three-Letter Abbreviation)?

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#3778

FromTauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid>
Date2016-05-20 18:58 +0300
Message-ID<nhnbvg$snu$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#3777
On 20.5.16 18:28, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2016-05-20, Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 20.5.16 16:09, JT wrote:
>>
>>> On 20/05/16 13:55, Tauno Voipio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 20.5.16 01:35, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Laszlo Lebrun a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me apologize: I wrongly used "bridging" wat I needed is called WISP
>>>>>> mode (masquerading)
>>>>>
>>>>> Wha is "WISP mode" ? Never heard of it.
>>>>
>>>> It is a FLA for Wireless Internet Service Provider, a glorified access
>>>> point.
>>>>
>>>> (what is FLA: Four Letter Abbreviation)
>>>>
>>>> The OP is outside of the proper networking terminology like a garden
>>>> hose. He's trying to cove it with abbreviations found from the press.
>>>>
>>> You mean that FLA is a TLA for Four Letter Abbreviation?
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>
>> Exactly.
>
> That's why it needs a better name.
>
> How about ETLA (Extended Three-Letter Abbreviation)?


Or still more cryptic XTLA.

-- 

-TV

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#3779

FromPascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org>
Date2016-05-22 11:41 +0200
Message-ID<nhrut0$25g5$2@saria.nerim.net>
In reply to#3774
Tauno Voipio a écrit :
> On 20.5.16 01:35, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>> Laszlo Lebrun a écrit :
>>> Let me apologize: I wrongly used "bridging" wat I needed is called WISP
>>> mode (masquerading)
>> Wha is "WISP mode" ? Never heard of it.
> 
> It is a FLA for Wireless Internet Service Provider, a glorified access 
> point.

I know what WISP means, but just wonder what "WISP *mode*" means and its
relationship with masquerading.

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#3765

FromAndy Furniss <spam@spam>
Date2016-05-15 11:10 +0100
Message-ID<M-2dnW0fUoKU1qXKnZ2dnUU78IvNnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>
In reply to#3759
Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Laszlo Lebrun a écrit :
>>
>> I tried to bridge the WLAN and RJ45 on Windows 10, but that was
>> not working Indeed a soon as I plug the RJ45, the wireless
>> connection is suspended. How can I prevent that? Would I have
>> bettre chances on Linux?
>
> No. Bridging of a wireless interface in managed (infrastructure,
> i.e. associated to an access point) or ad hoc mode has been disabled
> in recent kernel because it is not reliable.

Maybe I misunderstand.

Are you saying that the setup on Linux based routers where wlan0 and
eth* are under br0 is now disabled?

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#3766

FromAndy Furniss <spam@spam>
Date2016-05-15 11:44 +0100
Message-ID<X5ednZ78KZSvzqXKnZ2dnUU78Q3NnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>
In reply to#3765
Andy Furniss wrote:
> Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>> Laszlo Lebrun a écrit :
>>>
>>> I tried to bridge the WLAN and RJ45 on Windows 10, but that was
>>> not working Indeed a soon as I plug the RJ45, the wireless
>>> connection is suspended. How can I prevent that? Would I have
>>> bettre chances on Linux?
>>
>> No. Bridging of a wireless interface in managed (infrastructure,
>> i.e. associated to an access point) or ad hoc mode has been disabled
>> in recent kernel because it is not reliable.
>
> Maybe I misunderstand.
>
> Are you saying that the setup on Linux based routers where wlan0 and
> eth* are under br0 is now disabled?

OK re-reading in my example wlan0 is the access point, so not the same 
thing.

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#3767

FromPascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org>
Date2016-05-15 13:04 +0200
Message-ID<nh9l3g$2n0l$1@saria.nerim.net>
In reply to#3766
Andy Furniss a écrit :
> Andy Furniss wrote:
>> Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>>> No. Bridging of a wireless interface in managed (infrastructure,
>>> i.e. associated to an access point) or ad hoc mode has been disabled
>>> in recent kernel because it is not reliable.
>>
>> Maybe I misunderstand.
>>
>> Are you saying that the setup on Linux based routers where wlan0 and
>> eth* are under br0 is now disabled?
> 
> OK re-reading in my example wlan0 is the access point, so not the same 
> thing.

Indeed a wireless interface in "master" mode can still be bridged.

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