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  Is Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem supported in Linux? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2012-09-19 14:03 -0500
    Re: Is Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem supported in Linux? Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2012-09-19 12:16 -0700
      Re: Is Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem supported in Linux? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2012-09-19 15:42 -0500
        Re: Is Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem supported in Linux? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2012-09-19 22:17 -0400
          Re: Is Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem supported in Linux? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-09-20 13:50 +0200
          Re: Is Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem supported in Linux? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2012-09-20 15:23 -0500
            Re: Is Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem supported in Linux? "T. Dwyer" <es290@ncf.ca> - 2012-09-20 16:43 -0400
            Re: Is Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem supported in Linux? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-09-20 20:55 +0000
              Re: Is Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem supported in Linux? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2012-09-20 16:07 -0500
    Re: Is Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem supported in Linux? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2012-09-19 21:47 +0000
      Re: Is Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem supported in Linux? Johann Klammer <klammerj@NOSPAM.a1.net> - 2012-09-19 23:54 +0200
      Re: Is Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem supported in Linux? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-09-19 22:57 +0100
      Re: Is Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem supported in Linux? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2012-09-20 15:30 -0500

#1653 — Is Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem supported in Linux?

Hello.

I cannot seem to get KNOPPIX v7.0.4 and Ubuntu v12.04.1 i386 live CDs to 
see an old Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem. 
It worked fine in Windows (XP SP3 to 64-bit 7) on two machines. When I 
plugged it in during a KNOPPIX session, dmesg detects it. Ubuntu 
v12.04.1 i386 live CD detects something, but can't identify it. The 
Linux tests were on an old Dell Dimension 8250 (512 MB of RAM) machine. 

KNOPPIX's dmesg showed: 
... 
[ 113.693346] usb 4-2: new full-speed USB device number 2 usinguhci_hcd
[ 118.856286] usb 4-2: New USB device found, idVendor=148d, idProduct=1671 
[ 118.856293] usb 4-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=6 
[ 118.856297] usb 4-2: Product: Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB 
[ 118.856300] usb 4-2: Manufacturer: Creative Pte Ltd. 
[ 118.856303] usb 4-2: SerialNumber: 00000000

Its lsusb command showed:
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 148d:1671  
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub 
Weird that lsusb doesn't show the modem?

Ubuntu showed http://pastie.org/4755128 (too long in this newsgroup 
post).

For now, I just want to see if KNOPPIX can communicate to this modem 
with its AT commands, but it doesn't seem to find the modem at all even 
though KNOPPIX's dmesg show detections. 
http://knoppix.net/forum/threads/30210-Dial-up-Modem-and-KNOPPIX-v7.0.4-Live-CD- 
's reply told me to use WvDial for the dial-up modem stuff:

root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# wvdial
--> WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.61
--> Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
--> Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
--> Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory

root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# wvdialconf
Editing `/etc/wvdial.conf'.

Scanning your serial ports for a modem.

ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 2400 baud, next try: 9600 baud
ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 9600 baud, next try: 115200 baud
ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- and failed too at 115200, giving up.
Modem Port Scan<*1>: S1 S2 S3
ttyS4<Info>: No such device or address
Modem Port Scan<*1>: S4


Sorry, no modem was detected! Is it in use by another program?
Did you configure it properly with setserial?

Please read the FAQ at http://alumnit.ca/wiki/?WvDial


# cat /etc/wvdial.conf
[Dialer Defaults]
Phone =
Username =
Password =
New PPPD = yes


I don't need to dial out yet. Ubuntu's results were worse as shown in 
http://pastie.org/4755128 ... :(

Thank you in advance. :)
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#1654

On 09/19/2012 12:03 PM, Ant wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I cannot seem to get KNOPPIX v7.0.4 and Ubuntu v12.04.1 i386 live CDs to
> see an old Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem.
> It worked fine in Windows (XP SP3 to 64-bit 7) on two machines. When I
> plugged it in during a KNOPPIX session, dmesg detects it. Ubuntu
> v12.04.1 i386 live CD detects something, but can't identify it. The
> Linux tests were on an old Dell Dimension 8250 (512 MB of RAM) machine.

	Sounds like a WinModem which is only usable on Linux with a Windows 
driver in special wrapper file.  It depends for its operation ordinarily 
in Windows with offloading of processing to the CPU.  i looked at the 
Linux Hardware guide and at listings for support where I found only 
Windows drivers.

	Your cross-posting seems a bit extreme.

	bliss
>
> KNOPPIX's dmesg showed:
> ...
> [ 113.693346] usb 4-2: new full-speed USB device number 2 usinguhci_hcd
> [ 118.856286] usb 4-2: New USB device found, idVendor=148d, idProduct=1671
> [ 118.856293] usb 4-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=6
> [ 118.856297] usb 4-2: Product: Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB
> [ 118.856300] usb 4-2: Manufacturer: Creative Pte Ltd.
> [ 118.856303] usb 4-2: SerialNumber: 00000000
>
> Its lsusb command showed:
> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 148d:1671
> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
> Weird that lsusb doesn't show the modem?
>
> Ubuntu showed http://pastie.org/4755128 (too long in this newsgroup
> post).
>
> For now, I just want to see if KNOPPIX can communicate to this modem
> with its AT commands, but it doesn't seem to find the modem at all even
> though KNOPPIX's dmesg show detections.
> http://knoppix.net/forum/threads/30210-Dial-up-Modem-and-KNOPPIX-v7.0.4-Live-CD-
> 's reply told me to use WvDial for the dial-up modem stuff:
>
> root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# wvdial
> -->  WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.61
> -->  Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
> -->  Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
> -->  Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
>
> root@Microknoppix:/home/knoppix# wvdialconf
> Editing `/etc/wvdial.conf'.
>
> Scanning your serial ports for a modem.
>
> ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 2400 baud, next try: 9600 baud
> ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- failed with 9600 baud, next try: 115200 baud
> ttyS0<*1>: ATQ0 V1 E1 -- and failed too at 115200, giving up.
> Modem Port Scan<*1>: S1 S2 S3
> ttyS4<Info>: No such device or address
> Modem Port Scan<*1>: S4
>
>
> Sorry, no modem was detected! Is it in use by another program?
> Did you configure it properly with setserial?
>
> Please read the FAQ at http://alumnit.ca/wiki/?WvDial
>
>
> # cat /etc/wvdial.conf
> [Dialer Defaults]
> Phone =
> Username =
> Password =
> New PPPD = yes
>
>
> I don't need to dial out yet. Ubuntu's results were worse as shown in
> http://pastie.org/4755128 ... :(
>
> Thank you in advance. :)

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#1655

> Sounds like a WinModem which is only usable on Linux with a Windows 
> driver in special wrapper file.  It depends for its operation ordinarily 
> in Windows with offloading of processing to the CPU.  i looked at the 
> Linux Hardware guide and at listings for support where I found only 
> Windows drivers.

Ah, that's probably why. I couldn't get it to work in Mac OS X 10.7.4 as 
well. I guess I can't use it except in Windows then. Thanks. :(
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#1659

On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Ant wrote:

>> Sounds like a WinModem which is only usable on Linux with a Windows
>> driver in special wrapper file.  It depends for its operation ordinarily
>> in Windows with offloading of processing to the CPU.  i looked at the
>> Linux Hardware guide and at listings for support where I found only
>> Windows drivers.
>
> Ah, that's probably why. I couldn't get it to work in Mac OS X 10.7.4 as
> well. I guess I can't use it except in Windows then. Thanks. :(

On the other hand, because they were so cheap, they landed in a lot of 
computers.  It's pretty common when I find a computer on the sidewalk 
waiting for the garbage truck for it to have such a modem.  It's rare to 
see hardware modems, especially faster speed ones.

Given that, some of the software modems seemed easier to use with Linux, 
or rather, someone took the time to deal with it.  I'm sure there's a list 
of software modems that are easy to use with Linux, find that list and 
then just look for a modem that fits.  I suspect it can't take too many 
software modems to find one compatible.

The problem is that the software modems did start taking up the market 
towards the end of dial-up modems.  People got cheap, the computers got 
fast enough, so the hardware modems were likely specifically bought.  I 
think the fastest bus hardware modem I saw was 28.8K, and I had to give 
that one up when I moved to a computer that didn't have an ISA bus.  I 
don't think I've seen any PCI hardware modems (I'm not saying they dont' 
exist, just pointing out that they became uncommon).  External modems, 
they never dropped in price because there was nothing new to come along. 
So it took some time before I could move from my external 33.6K modem to 
56K, finally finding one at a garage sale at a price I was willing to pay, 
then oddly the next week finding another one at another sale.  I suspect 
not only that fewer external (and hardware) modems were sold at 56K, but 
since nothing came along to replace them for dial-up, people must have 
kept them as backup.  On the other hand, I bought for ten dollars a 56K 
external modem a couple of years ago, I wanted a spare, and then found one 
in a pile of garbage on moving day.

   Michael

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#1660

On Thursday 20 September 2012 04:17, Michael Black conveyed the 
following to comp.os.linux.hardware...

> On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Ant wrote:
> 
>>> Sounds like a WinModem which is only usable on Linux with a Windows
>>> driver in special wrapper file.  It depends for its operation
>>> ordinarily in Windows with offloading of processing to the CPU.  i
>>> looked at the Linux Hardware guide and at listings for support where
>>> I found only Windows drivers.
>>
>> Ah, that's probably why. I couldn't get it to work in Mac OS X 10.7.4
>> as well. I guess I can't use it except in Windows then. Thanks. :(
> 
> On the other hand, because they were so cheap, they landed in a lot of
> computers.  It's pretty common when I find a computer on the sidewalk
> waiting for the garbage truck for it to have such a modem.  It's rare
> to see hardware modems, especially faster speed ones.
> 
> Given that, some of the software modems seemed easier to use with
> Linux, or rather, someone took the time to deal with it.  I'm sure
> there's a list of software modems that are easy to use with Linux,
> find that list and then just look for a modem that fits.  I suspect it
> can't take too many software modems to find one compatible.

Check here:

    http://www.linmodems.org

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(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

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#1661

> >> Sounds like a WinModem which is only usable on Linux with a Windows
> >> driver in special wrapper file.  It depends for its operation ordinarily
> >> in Windows with offloading of processing to the CPU.  i looked at the
> >> Linux Hardware guide and at listings for support where I found only
> >> Windows drivers.
> >
> > Ah, that's probably why. I couldn't get it to work in Mac OS X 10.7.4 as
> > well. I guess I can't use it except in Windows then. Thanks. :(

> On the other hand, because they were so cheap, they landed in a lot of 
> computers.  It's pretty common when I find a computer on the sidewalk 
> waiting for the garbage truck for it to have such a modem.  It's rare to 
> see hardware modems, especially faster speed ones.

Yeah, someone didn't want it and it wasn't even opened and still 
shrinkwrapped (never used). So I took it for kicks to see. Now, I know 
why he/she didn't want it beside being dial-up (still useful to me when 
my cable Internet goes down). Haha.


> Given that, some of the software modems seemed easier to use with Linux, 
> or rather, someone took the time to deal with it.  I'm sure there's a list 
> of software modems that are easy to use with Linux, find that list and 
> then just look for a modem that fits.  I suspect it can't take too many 
> software modems to find one compatible.

> The problem is that the software modems did start taking up the market 
> towards the end of dial-up modems.  People got cheap, the computers got 
> fast enough, so the hardware modems were likely specifically bought.  I 
> think the fastest bus hardware modem I saw was 28.8K, and I had to give 
> that one up when I moved to a computer that didn't have an ISA bus.  I 
> don't think I've seen any PCI hardware modems (I'm not saying they dont' 
> exist, just pointing out that they became uncommon).  External modems, 
> they never dropped in price because there was nothing new to come along. 
> So it took some time before I could move from my external 33.6K modem to 
> 56K, finally finding one at a garage sale at a price I was willing to pay, 
> then oddly the next week finding another one at another sale.  I suspect 
> not only that fewer external (and hardware) modems were sold at 56K, but 
> since nothing came along to replace them for dial-up, people must have 
> kept them as backup.  On the other hand, I bought for ten dollars a 56K 
> external modem a couple of years ago, I wanted a spare, and then found one 
> in a pile of garbage on moving day.

I still have my old external serial USR Sportster 33.6k (only connects 
at 28800-31200 speeds on crappy old copper landlines) dial-up modem at 
home. It still works as of 1.75 years ago when I tested it. :) I was 
hoping to find a cheap/free USB one since serial/COM types are pretty 
much gone these days.
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#1663

Ant wrote:

>>>>Sounds like a WinModem which is only usable on Linux with a Windows
>>>>driver in special wrapper file.  It depends for its operation ordinarily
>>>>in Windows with offloading of processing to the CPU.  i looked at the
>>>>Linux Hardware guide and at listings for support where I found only
>>>>Windows drivers.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Ah, that's probably why. I couldn't get it to work in Mac OS X 10.7.4 as
>>>well. I guess I can't use it except in Windows then. Thanks. :(
>>>      
>>>
>
>  
>
>>On the other hand, because they were so cheap, they landed in a lot of 
>>computers.  It's pretty common when I find a computer on the sidewalk 
>>waiting for the garbage truck for it to have such a modem.  It's rare to 
>>see hardware modems, especially faster speed ones.
>>    
>>
>
>Yeah, someone didn't want it and it wasn't even opened and still 
>shrinkwrapped (never used). So I took it for kicks to see. Now, I know 
>why he/she didn't want it beside being dial-up (still useful to me when 
>my cable Internet goes down). Haha.
>
>
>  
>
>>Given that, some of the software modems seemed easier to use with Linux, 
>>or rather, someone took the time to deal with it.  I'm sure there's a list 
>>of software modems that are easy to use with Linux, find that list and 
>>then just look for a modem that fits.  I suspect it can't take too many 
>>software modems to find one compatible.
>>    
>>
>
>  
>
>>The problem is that the software modems did start taking up the market 
>>towards the end of dial-up modems.  People got cheap, the computers got 
>>fast enough, so the hardware modems were likely specifically bought.  I 
>>think the fastest bus hardware modem I saw was 28.8K, and I had to give 
>>that one up when I moved to a computer that didn't have an ISA bus.  I 
>>don't think I've seen any PCI hardware modems (I'm not saying they dont' 
>>exist, just pointing out that they became uncommon).  External modems, 
>>they never dropped in price because there was nothing new to come along. 
>>So it took some time before I could move from my external 33.6K modem to 
>>56K, finally finding one at a garage sale at a price I was willing to pay, 
>>then oddly the next week finding another one at another sale.  I suspect 
>>not only that fewer external (and hardware) modems were sold at 56K, but 
>>since nothing came along to replace them for dial-up, people must have 
>>kept them as backup.  On the other hand, I bought for ten dollars a 56K 
>>external modem a couple of years ago, I wanted a spare, and then found one 
>>in a pile of garbage on moving day.
>>    
>>
>
>I still have my old external serial USR Sportster 33.6k (only connects 
>at 28800-31200 speeds on crappy old copper landlines) dial-up modem at 
>home. It still works as of 1.75 years ago when I tested it. :) I was 
>hoping to find a cheap/free USB one since serial/COM types are pretty 
>much gone these days.
>  
>
The USROBOTIC'S is a Hardware USB modem  which is seen in Linux as TTY/ACMO.
T.D.

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#1664

On Thursday, September 20th, 2012, at 15:23:50h -0500, Ant explained:

> I still have my old external serial USR Sportster 33.6k (only connects 
> at 28800-31200 speeds on crappy old copper landlines) dial-up modem at 
> home. It still works as of 1.75 years ago when I tested it. :) I was 
> hoping to find a cheap/free USB one since serial/COM types are pretty 
> much gone these days.

Why not use a USB to serial converter cable?

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#1665

> > I still have my old external serial USR Sportster 33.6k (only connects 
> > at 28800-31200 speeds on crappy old copper landlines) dial-up modem at 
> > home. It still works as of 1.75 years ago when I tested it. :) I was 
> > hoping to find a cheap/free USB one since serial/COM types are pretty 
> > much gone these days.

> Why not use a USB to serial converter cable?

I can, but it's very old and will die one day. I need to replacements 
when that happen. ;)
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#1656

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.networking.]
On 2012-09-19, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I cannot seem to get KNOPPIX v7.0.4 and Ubuntu v12.04.1 i386 live CDs to 
> see an old Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem. 
> It worked fine in Windows (XP SP3 to 64-bit 7) on two machines. When I 
> plugged it in during a KNOPPIX session, dmesg detects it. Ubuntu 
> v12.04.1 i386 live CD detects something, but can't identify it. The 
> Linux tests were on an old Dell Dimension 8250 (512 MB of RAM) machine. 
> Thank you in advance. :)

[...]

I think that model has a 'Conexant' chipset, in which case it may be
possible to get it working with Linux
<http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/index.php>

But if you're serious about using a dialup modem, whatever operating system
is involved, you're better off using a real 'hardware' modem.  These are
(or were!) made as PCI cards for installing on a motherboard, or as PC Card
(PCMCIA) removable cards, or as external boxes with Serial or USB
connectors.  

I have had success using a Serial-to-USB adaptor to get a Zoom 3049L Serial
modem working with Mandrake 9 (and up to Mandriva 2008) - no messing
around, just connect it up, put the basic configuration into KPPP or some
other modem dialer package, and you're on line.  Lots of flashing lights to
watch while your data moves, and lots of old-fashioned noises while it's
establishing a connection.

A Sitecom PC Card fax/modem has also worked well for me 'on the road'.  It
is inclined to get alarmingly hot, though.

I haven't tried either of them with current distros, but I would expect
them to work (unless the hardware breaks).

-- 
-- ^^^^^^^^^^
--  Whiskers 
-- ~~~~~~~~~~

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#1657

Whiskers wrote:
>
> I think that model has a 'Conexant' chipset, in which case it may be
> possible to get it working with Linux
> <http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/index.php>
>
 From their license agreement:
The free version of the drivers is limited to 14.4Kbps.

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#1658

Whiskers wrote:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.networking.]
> On 2012-09-19, Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote:
>> Hello.
>>
>> I cannot seem to get KNOPPIX v7.0.4 and Ubuntu v12.04.1 i386 live CDs to 
>> see an old Creative Modem Blaster V.92 USB (DE5671 Model) dial-up modem. 
>> It worked fine in Windows (XP SP3 to 64-bit 7) on two machines. When I 
>> plugged it in during a KNOPPIX session, dmesg detects it. Ubuntu 
>> v12.04.1 i386 live CD detects something, but can't identify it. The 
>> Linux tests were on an old Dell Dimension 8250 (512 MB of RAM) machine. 
>> Thank you in advance. :)
> 
> [...]
> 
> I think that model has a 'Conexant' chipset, in which case it may be
> possible to get it working with Linux
> <http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/index.php>
> 
> But if you're serious about using a dialup modem, whatever operating system
> is involved, you're better off using a real 'hardware' modem.  These are
> (or were!) made as PCI cards for installing on a motherboard, or as PC Card
> (PCMCIA) removable cards, or as external boxes with Serial or USB
> connectors.  
> 
> I have had success using a Serial-to-USB adaptor to get a Zoom 3049L Serial
> modem working with Mandrake 9 (and up to Mandriva 2008) - no messing
> around, just connect it up, put the basic configuration into KPPP or some
> other modem dialer package, and you're on line.  Lots of flashing lights to
> watch while your data moves, and lots of old-fashioned noises while it's
> establishing a connection.
> 
> A Sitecom PC Card fax/modem has also worked well for me 'on the road'.  It
> is inclined to get alarmingly hot, though.
> 
> I haven't tried either of them with current distros, but I would expect
> them to work (unless the hardware breaks).
> 
+1

modem PCI cards are still available.

e.g. 
http://www.usr-emea.com/products/p-dialup-product.asp?prod=hom-5661a&loc=unkg


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> I think that model has a 'Conexant' chipset, in which case it may be
> possible to get it working with Linux
> <http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hsf/index.php>

Yeah, I am having no luck in getting it to work so far. See 
http://knoppix.net/forum/threads/30210-Dial-up-Modem-and-KNOPPIX-v7.0.4-Live-CD-... 
for the details. It is getting a bit complex.


> But if you're serious about using a dialup modem, whatever operating system
> is involved, you're better off using a real 'hardware' modem.  These are
> (or were!) made as PCI cards for installing on a motherboard, or as PC Card
> (PCMCIA) removable cards, or as external boxes with Serial or USB
> connectors.  

I just want to have it as a back up. I rarely use it, but it is useful 
when my cable Internet goes down.


> I have had success using a Serial-to-USB adaptor to get a Zoom 3049L Serial
> modem working with Mandrake 9 (and up to Mandriva 2008) - no messing
> around, just connect it up, put the basic configuration into KPPP or some
> other modem dialer package, and you're on line.  Lots of flashing lights to
> watch while your data moves, and lots of old-fashioned noises while it's
> establishing a connection.

Oh, those USB+serial work well for old serial dial-up modems? I still 
have my external serial USR Sportster 33.6k modem. It worked as of 1.75 
years ago when I tested it. It won't last forever for sure. I was hoping 
to USB modems too since I got one for free that no one wanted and use it 
on any machines with USB ports like Mac OS X and Linux. Also, serial 
ports are rare these days.
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