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sockets over USB cable, ok ?

Started by"sl@exabyte" <ecp_gen@my-rialto.com>
First post2011-11-11 12:28 -0800
Last post2011-11-25 11:29 +0000
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  sockets over USB cable, ok ? "sl@exabyte" <ecp_gen@my-rialto.com> - 2011-11-11 12:28 -0800
    Re: sockets over USB cable, ok ? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2011-11-11 14:00 +0000
    Re: sockets over USB cable, ok ? Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2011-11-11 10:54 -0500
    Re: sockets over USB cable, ok ? lollolo <lulz@strallol.lol> - 2011-11-25 11:29 +0000

#796 — sockets over USB cable, ok ?

From"sl@exabyte" <ecp_gen@my-rialto.com>
Date2011-11-11 12:28 -0800
Subjectsockets over USB cable, ok ?
Message-ID<j9i6gi$kh1$1@news.albasani.net>
I am planning to retrieve SMS/MMS messages from an Android phone. The phone 
will be connected via an USB cable to a windows xp pc.

I am going write an Android program using socket, another on PC; I suppose 
these two components can communicate via sockets.

But I do have a doubt. Normally sockets are done through network interface 
card.

In the situation above, the phone and PC is connected via a USB cable. Would 
there be any problem ?

Thanks. 

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#797

FromChris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk>
Date2011-11-11 14:00 +0000
Message-ID<ddmvo8xa2c.ln2@news.roaima.co.uk>
In reply to#796
sl@exabyte <ecp_gen@my-rialto.com> wrote:
> I am planning to retrieve SMS/MMS messages from an Android phone. The
> phone will be connected via an USB cable to a windows xp pc.

Good luck.


> But I do have a doubt. Normally sockets are done through network
> interface card.

No they're not.

Network sockets are used for communication over a network (typically
an IP based one). Networks often use a NIC to build the connection
out to "the network", but this isn't essential (think modems, serial
connections, PPP, etc.). There are also Unix domain sockets, which are
used for communication on a (typically Unix-like) local server. There
are other socket types, too (IPX, X.25, Appletalk, etc).


> In the situation above, the phone and PC is connected via a USB
> cable. Would there be any problem ?

There could be lots of problems. How are you going to get the PC and the
Android to talk to each other over USB? Are you going to be permitted
to have an application scrape SMS messages from the phone and present
them out via some interface?

Last time I tried, it seemed that plugging a USB cable into my Wildfire
(Android-based device) caused it either to use the USB purely for
charging, or to dismount the SD Card and present that to my PC as a USB
disk drive. I don't recall a client/server option - but I could easily
be wrong, as I wouldn't have been looking for such an option anyway.

Personally, if I needed an SMS gateway/interface for a PC based
application I'd either look at using a directly connected device, such
as a 3G modem, or else something that worked with gnokii or one of its
alternatives/successors. The latter option works well for me, here.


Oh, by the way, I'm puzzled why you're asking in a Linux networking
newsgroup about Android and Windows XP. I suspect you might be better
off asking such questions in the MSDN forums over there -->

Chris

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#798

FromStefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Date2011-11-11 10:54 -0500
Message-ID<jwvvcqqlkq2.fsf-monnier+comp.os.linux.networking@gnu.org>
In reply to#796
> I am planning to retrieve SMS/MMS messages from an Android phone. The phone 
> will be connected via an USB cable to a windows xp pc.

Don't know about Android and XP, but with the Openmoko Freerunner
connected to a GNU/Linux PC, it was very straightforward to do that.


        Stefan

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Fromlollolo <lulz@strallol.lol>
Date2011-11-25 11:29 +0000
Message-ID<janu79$p49$2@nnrp.ngi.it>
In reply to#796
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 12:28:01 -0800, sl@exabyte wrote:

> I am planning to retrieve SMS/MMS messages from an Android phone. The
> phone will be connected via an USB cable to a windows xp pc.
> 
> I am going write an Android program using socket, another on PC; I
> suppose these two components can communicate via sockets.
> 
> But I do have a doubt. Normally sockets are done through network
> interface card.
> 
> In the situation above, the phone and PC is connected via a USB cable.
> Would there be any problem ?
> 
> Thanks.

Maybe you can use usbnet module
I once used it, on linux.
It exists also on windows.
You connect the cable and the os create a virtual interface on the pc 
(like a virtual ethernet card) and also another interface on the phone 
side.
You assign an usable ip on the pc-side interface (obviously it has to be 
in the same net of the ip of the phone interface), then you can connect 
to the phone.
Also, this is the way Rsync works on windows.

:)

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