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  Pasting between different size auto-wrappers? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-05-25 18:27 +0000
    Re: Pasting between different size auto-wrappers? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2012-05-26 16:36 +0000
      Re (2): Pasting between different size auto-wrappers? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-05-27 06:08 +0000
        Re: Re (2): Pasting between different size auto-wrappers? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2012-05-27 18:21 +0000
          Re (3): Pasting between different size auto-wrappers? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-05-31 09:12 +0000
            Re: Re (3): Pasting between different size auto-wrappers? Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2012-05-31 13:38 +0000

#1408 — Pasting between different size auto-wrappers?

Since USEnet has been killed by blogs, you may not want to type into the 
blog-enter-frame like a superficial twitterer. You may want to compose a well
thought out text, which you can PASTE later; even when the currently presented
blog-enter-frame has disappeared. IE. you may want to be in control, and not
just obey "fill in here".

Pasting from a normal editor, where you have determined where the line-breaks
occur, will likely mess the appearance of your text, if your chosen line length
exceeds that of the browser. 

Also you may not want to be 'married to' any particular browser.
So the line lengths must be able to auto-adjust.
AFAICS the act-of-pasting automatically places a line-break according to the 
appearance of the paste-source.  So you CAN'T achieve auto-line-wrap by 
avoiding pasting line-breaks.

Do you see a solution to this problem.

== TIA.

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On 2012-05-25, no.top.post@gmail.com <no.top.post@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since USEnet has been killed by blogs, 

What are you doing here, then?  <grin>

[...]

> Pasting from a normal editor, where you have determined where the
> line-breaks occur, will likely mess the appearance of your text, if
> your chosen line length exceeds that of the browser. 
>
> Also you may not want to be 'married to' any particular browser.
> So the line lengths must be able to auto-adjust.
> AFAICS the act-of-pasting automatically places a line-break according
> to the appearance of the paste-source.  So you CAN'T achieve
> auto-line-wrap by avoiding pasting line-breaks.
>
> Do you see a solution to this problem.
>
> == TIA.

Use an editor that allows you to create a text file with no CR or LF 
(are there any that don't allow that?).

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#1416 — Re (2): Pasting between different size auto-wrappers?

In article <slrnjs21lt.qj.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote: 

> On 2012-05-25, no.top.post@gmail.com <no.top.post@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Pasting from a normal editor, where you have determined where the
> > line-breaks occur, will likely mess the appearance of your text, if
> > your chosen line length exceeds that of the browser. 
> >
> > AFAICS the act-of-pasting automatically places a line-break according
> > to the appearance of the paste-source.  So you CAN'T achieve
> > auto-line-wrap by avoiding pasting line-breaks.
> >
> > Do you see a solution to this problem.
> >
> > == TIA.
> 
> Use an editor that allows you to create a text file with no CR or LF 
> (are there any that don't allow that?).

OK, I don't see why it took me so long to realise the imposibility
of a solution via ANY editor. That's why I hate these common
'herd' replies of "buy yourself a dingdong like ME and you're fixed'.

I needed to realise the THEORETICAL answer that 
'because gpm pastes-what-it-sees' , if I see a line-break on the 
screen, gpm will paste that.

Also I forgot that this is also a M$ forum, and their pasting isn't
YGWYS.

== Thanks.

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#1420 — Re: Re (2): Pasting between different size auto-wrappers?

On 2012-05-27, no.top.post@gmail.com <no.top.post@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnjs21lt.qj.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
> Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote: 
>> On 2012-05-25, no.top.post@gmail.com <no.top.post@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Pasting from a normal editor, where you have determined where the
>> > line-breaks occur, will likely mess the appearance of your text, if
>> > your chosen line length exceeds that of the browser. 
>> >
>> > AFAICS the act-of-pasting automatically places a line-break according
>> > to the appearance of the paste-source.  So you CAN'T achieve
>> > auto-line-wrap by avoiding pasting line-breaks.
>> >
>> > Do you see a solution to this problem.
>> >
>> > == TIA.
>> 
>> Use an editor that allows you to create a text file with no CR or LF 
>> (are there any that don't allow that?).
>
> OK, I don't see why it took me so long to realise the imposibility
> of a solution via ANY editor. That's why I hate these common
> 'herd' replies of "buy yourself a dingdong like ME and you're fixed'.

Are you trying to say that you know only text editors that lack any 
user control of 'wrapping' or 'line length' and therefore do not 
believe my comment was meant in all seriousness?

Which editor do you use?

I don't think I've ever used a text editor that can't produce 'endless 
lines' or 'unwrapped paragraphs'; the command or setting to make it do 
that will of course depend on the program itself.  I use "mcedit", 
which is part of the mc (Midnight Commander) file manager (but can be 
launched independently).  I'm sure Vi and Emacs are equally capable, 
and any other editor designed for writing code for computer programs; 
it's a pretty fundamental requirement!

> I needed to realise the THEORETICAL answer that 
> 'because gpm pastes-what-it-sees' , if I see a line-break on the 
> screen, gpm will paste that.

Perhaps you should try copy/paste without the mouse.  With mcedit, I'd 
have to 'save' the file to disc and then use the browser to open it, 
and use then Ctrl-c and Ctrl-v (or Shift-Insert).

> Also I forgot that this is also a M$ forum, and their pasting isn't
> YGWYS.
>
> == Thanks.

I wouldn't have thought of comp.os.linux.networking as having much to 
do with Microsoft!

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#1434 — Re (3): Pasting between different size auto-wrappers?

In article <slrnjs4s6p.2jh.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net>, Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote: 

> On 2012-05-27, no.top.post@gmail.com <no.top.post@gmail.com> wrote:
> > In article <slrnjs21lt.qj.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
> > Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote: 
> >> On 2012-05-25, no.top.post@gmail.com <no.top.post@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> > Pasting from a normal editor, where you have determined where the
> >> > line-breaks occur, will likely mess the appearance of your text, if
> >> > your chosen line length exceeds that of the browser. 
> >> >
> >> > AFAICS the act-of-pasting automatically places a line-break according
> >> > to the appearance of the paste-source.  So you CAN'T achieve
> >> > auto-line-wrap by avoiding pasting line-breaks.
> >> >
> >> > Do you see a solution to this problem.
> >> >
> >> > == TIA.
> >> 
> >> Use an editor that allows you to create a text file with no CR or LF 
> >> (are there any that don't allow that?).
> >
> > OK, I don't see why it took me so long to realise the imposibility
> > of a solution via ANY editor. That's why I hate these common
> > 'herd' replies of "buy yourself a dingdong like ME and you're fixed'.
> 
> Are you trying to say that you know only text editors that lack any 
> user control of 'wrapping' or 'line length' and therefore do not 
> believe my comment was meant in all seriousness?
> 
> Which editor do you use?
> 
> I don't think I've ever used a text editor that can't produce 'endless 
> lines' or 'unwrapped paragraphs'; the command or setting to make it do 
> that will of course depend on the program itself.  I use "mcedit", 
> which is part of the mc (Midnight Commander) file manager (but can be 
> launched independently).  
me too, mostly `mc` -> mcedit

> I'm sure Vi and Emacs are equally capable, 
> and any other editor designed for writing code for computer programs; 
> it's a pretty fundamental requirement!
> 
> > I needed to realise the THEORETICAL answer that 
> > 'because gpm pastes-what-it-sees' , if I see a line-break on the 
> > screen, gpm will paste that.
> 
> Perhaps you should try copy/paste without the mouse.  With mcedit, I'd 
> have to 'save' the file to disc and then use the browser to open it, 
> and use then Ctrl-c and Ctrl-v (or Shift-Insert).
> 
I use lynx & links and they can't 'import' to the <reply frame>.
Now do I believe Mozilla, Opera can.

http is a curse. I want Apartheid, where I don't have to be contaminated
by the klik-kiddies.

> > Also I forgot that this is also a M$ forum, and their pasting isn't
> > YGWYS.
> >
> > == Thanks.
> 
> I wouldn't have thought of comp.os.linux.networking as having much to 
> do with Microsoft!
The thread originated on: news.software.readers

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#1444 — Re: Re (3): Pasting between different size auto-wrappers?

On 2012-05-31, no.top.post@gmail.com <no.top.post@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <slrnjs4s6p.2jh.catwheezel@ID-107770.user.individual.net>,
> Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> wrote: 

[...]

> http is a curse. I want Apartheid, where I don't have to be contaminated
> by the klik-kiddies.

[...]

You're preaching to the choir, here!  I achieve complete nirvana with 
respect to blogs-as-discussion-fora simply by not posting to them at 
all - I rarely read them either.  I do use a few web fora if there's no 
alternative - but if there's a mailing list for the same discussions, I 
prefer that.

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