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  The US government just banned consumer routers made outside the US Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-03-25 10:22 +0100
    Re: The US government just banned consumer routers made outside the US Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-03-25 18:19 +0000
      Re: The US government just banned consumer routers made outside the US Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2026-03-25 21:23 +0100
        Re: The US government just banned consumer routers made outside the US Ho Li Phuc <HLP@aol.com> - 2026-03-25 16:42 -0600
          Re: The US government just banned consumer routers made outside the US Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-03-26 02:42 +0100
            Re: The US government just banned consumer routers made outside the US Ho Li Phuc <HLP@aol.com> - 2026-03-25 20:11 -0600
              Re: The US government just banned consumer routers made outside the US Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2026-03-26 06:33 +0100
                Re: The US government just banned consumer routers made outside the US Ho Li Phuc <HLP@aol.com> - 2026-03-26 09:29 -0600
        Re: The US government just banned consumer routers made outside the US Lawfare Review <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> - 2026-03-25 23:00 -0400
        Re: The US government just banned consumer routers made outside the US David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2026-03-26 09:26 +0100
          Re: The US government just banned consumer routers made outside the US Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@buntownik.pl> - 2026-03-26 16:41 +0100

#8569 — The US government just banned consumer routers made outside the US

In December, the Federal Communications Commission banned all future 
drones made in foreign countries from being imported into the United 
States, unless or until their maker gets an exemption. Now, the FCC has 
done the exact same for consumer networking gear, citing “an unacceptable 
risk to the national security of the United States and to the safety and 
security of U.S. persons.”

If you already have a Wi-Fi or wired router, you can keep on using it — 
and companies that have already gotten FCC radio authorization for a 
specific foreign-made product can continue to import that product.

But since the vast majority — if not all — consumer routers are 
manufactured outside the United States, the vast majority of future 
consumer routers are now banned. By adding all foreign-made consumer 
routers to its Covered List, the FCC is saying it will no longer authorize 
their radios, which de facto bans new devices from import into the 
country.

Now, router makers need to A) secure a “conditional approval” that lets 
them keep getting new products cleared for US entry while they work to 
convince the government that they’ll open up manufacturing in the US, or 
B) make the decision to skip selling future products in the US, like 
dronemaker DJI already did.

Like with the foreign drone ban, the FCC has a National Security 
Determination that it says justifies these actions, one which claims that 
“Allowing routers produced abroad to dominate the U.S.

https://www.theverge.com/news/899172/fcc-foreign-router-ban

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#8570

On 2026-03-25, Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

> In December, the Federal Communications Commission banned all future 
> drones made in foreign countries from being imported into the United 
> States, unless or until their maker gets an exemption. Now, the FCC has 
> done the exact same for consumer networking gear, citing "an unacceptable 
> risk to the national security of the United States and to the safety and 
> security of U.S. persons."

Right.  As if U.S. tech oligarchs are any more trustworthy.

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#8571

Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>On 2026-03-25, Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>> In December, the Federal Communications Commission banned all future 
>> drones made in foreign countries from being imported into the United 
>> States, unless or until their maker gets an exemption. Now, the FCC has 
>> done the exact same for consumer networking gear, citing "an unacceptable 
>> risk to the national security of the United States and to the safety and 
>> security of U.S. persons."
>
>Right.  As if U.S. tech oligarchs are any more trustworthy.

Does any US tech oligarch have a DSL, cable or LTE router that
satisfies those new rules?

Greetings
Marc
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#8572

On 3/25/2026 2:23 PM, Marc Haber wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-03-25, Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>>> In December, the Federal Communications Commission banned all future
>>> drones made in foreign countries from being imported into the United
>>> States, unless or until their maker gets an exemption. Now, the FCC has
>>> done the exact same for consumer networking gear, citing "an unacceptable
>>> risk to the national security of the United States and to the safety and
>>> security of U.S. persons."
>>
>> Right.  As if U.S. tech oligarchs are any more trustworthy.
> 
> Does any US tech oligarch have a DSL, cable or LTE router that
> satisfies those new rules?
> 
> Greetings
> Marc

They probably will source their router electronics from Israeli 
companies founded by former Mossad agents, perhaps with ties to Silicon 
Valley corporations.


-- 
"And all of a sudden, all those empty bicycle lanes built during COVID
now make sense." Another USENET poster.

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#8573

On 25 Mar 2026, Ho Li Phuc <HLP@aol.com> posted some
news:10q1odj$2c5jv$1@dont-email.me: 

> On 3/25/2026 2:23 PM, Marc Haber wrote:
>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 2026-03-25, Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>>>> In December, the Federal Communications Commission banned all
>>>> future drones made in foreign countries from being imported into
>>>> the United States, unless or until their maker gets an exemption.
>>>> Now, the FCC has done the exact same for consumer networking gear,
>>>> citing "an unacceptable risk to the national security of the United
>>>> States and to the safety and security of U.S. persons."
>>>
>>> Right.  As if U.S. tech oligarchs are any more trustworthy.
>> 
>> Does any US tech oligarch have a DSL, cable or LTE router that
>> satisfies those new rules?
>> 
>> Greetings
>> Marc
> 
> They probably will source their router electronics from Israeli 
> companies founded by former Mossad agents, perhaps with ties to
> Silicon Valley corporations.

You've nver worked on an IBM XIV storage array I take it.

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#8574

On 3/25/2026 7:42 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> On 25 Mar 2026, Ho Li Phuc <HLP@aol.com> posted some
> news:10q1odj$2c5jv$1@dont-email.me:
> 
>> On 3/25/2026 2:23 PM, Marc Haber wrote:
>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 2026-03-25, Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>>>>> In December, the Federal Communications Commission banned all
>>>>> future drones made in foreign countries from being imported into
>>>>> the United States, unless or until their maker gets an exemption.
>>>>> Now, the FCC has done the exact same for consumer networking gear,
>>>>> citing "an unacceptable risk to the national security of the United
>>>>> States and to the safety and security of U.S. persons."
>>>>
>>>> Right.  As if U.S. tech oligarchs are any more trustworthy.
>>>
>>> Does any US tech oligarch have a DSL, cable or LTE router that
>>> satisfies those new rules?
>>>
>>> Greetings
>>> Marc
>>
>> They probably will source their router electronics from Israeli
>> companies founded by former Mossad agents, perhaps with ties to
>> Silicon Valley corporations.
> 
> You've nver worked on an IBM XIV storage array I take it.
> 

Your question is a non sequitur.

-- 
"And all of a sudden, all those empty bicycle lanes built during COVID
now make sense." Another USENET poster.

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#8576

On 25 Mar 2026, Ho Li Phuc <HLP@aol.com> posted some 
news:10q24jt$2fosc$1@dont-email.me:

> On 3/25/2026 7:42 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>> On 25 Mar 2026, Ho Li Phuc <HLP@aol.com> posted some
>> news:10q1odj$2c5jv$1@dont-email.me:
>> 
>>> On 3/25/2026 2:23 PM, Marc Haber wrote:
>>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 2026-03-25, Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In December, the Federal Communications Commission banned all
>>>>>> future drones made in foreign countries from being imported into
>>>>>> the United States, unless or until their maker gets an exemption.
>>>>>> Now, the FCC has done the exact same for consumer networking gear,
>>>>>> citing "an unacceptable risk to the national security of the United
>>>>>> States and to the safety and security of U.S. persons."
>>>>>
>>>>> Right.  As if U.S. tech oligarchs are any more trustworthy.
>>>>
>>>> Does any US tech oligarch have a DSL, cable or LTE router that
>>>> satisfies those new rules?
>>>>
>>>> Greetings
>>>> Marc
>>>
>>> They probably will source their router electronics from Israeli
>>> companies founded by former Mossad agents, perhaps with ties to
>>> Silicon Valley corporations.
>> 
>> You've nver worked on an IBM XIV storage array I take it.
>> 
> 
> Your question is a non sequitur.

You couldn't be further wrong if you tried.  It directly relates to the 
previous poster's response.  A technologist you aren't.

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#8578

On 3/25/2026 11:33 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
> On 25 Mar 2026, Ho Li Phuc <HLP@aol.com> posted some
> news:10q24jt$2fosc$1@dont-email.me:
> 
>> On 3/25/2026 7:42 PM, Nomen Nescio wrote:
>>> On 25 Mar 2026, Ho Li Phuc <HLP@aol.com> posted some
>>> news:10q1odj$2c5jv$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 3/25/2026 2:23 PM, Marc Haber wrote:
>>>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2026-03-25, Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> In December, the Federal Communications Commission banned all
>>>>>>> future drones made in foreign countries from being imported into
>>>>>>> the United States, unless or until their maker gets an exemption.
>>>>>>> Now, the FCC has done the exact same for consumer networking gear,
>>>>>>> citing "an unacceptable risk to the national security of the United
>>>>>>> States and to the safety and security of U.S. persons."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right.  As if U.S. tech oligarchs are any more trustworthy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does any US tech oligarch have a DSL, cable or LTE router that
>>>>> satisfies those new rules?
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings
>>>>> Marc
>>>>
>>>> They probably will source their router electronics from Israeli
>>>> companies founded by former Mossad agents, perhaps with ties to
>>>> Silicon Valley corporations.
>>>
>>> You've nver worked on an IBM XIV storage array I take it.
>>>
>>
>> Your question is a non sequitur.
> 
> You couldn't be further wrong if you tried.  It directly relates to the
> previous poster's response.  A technologist you aren't.
> 

Oh, really?  This was your "gotcha question" where you believe you laid 
a clever trap for the poster who addressed the government ban on 
consumer routers with Chinese sourced components by suggesting the 
components might be sourced from Israel.  Why don't you say what you 
mean to say rather than play stupid troll games?

-- 
"And all of a sudden, all those empty bicycle lanes built during COVID
now make sense." Another USENET poster.

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#8575

In <10q1g7m$kqdk$1@news1.tnib.de> Marc Haber wrote:
>
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>On 2026-03-25, Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>>> In December, the Federal Communications Commission banned all future
>>> drones made in foreign countries from being imported into the United
>>> States, unless or until their maker gets an exemption. Now, the FCC has
>>> done the exact same for consumer networking gear, citing "an 
unacceptable
>>> risk to the national security of the United States and to the safety and
>>> security of U.S. persons."
>>
>>Right.  As if U.S. tech oligarchs are any more trustworthy.
>
> Does any US tech oligarch have a DSL, cable or LTE router that
> satisfies those new rules?

Probably not.  Nobody does yet I'd guess.

--
WGR614v10 retired. 

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#8577

On 25/03/2026 21:23, Marc Haber wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2026-03-25, Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:
>>> In December, the Federal Communications Commission banned all future
>>> drones made in foreign countries from being imported into the United
>>> States, unless or until their maker gets an exemption. Now, the FCC has
>>> done the exact same for consumer networking gear, citing "an unacceptable
>>> risk to the national security of the United States and to the safety and
>>> security of U.S. persons."
>>
>> Right.  As if U.S. tech oligarchs are any more trustworthy.
> 
> Does any US tech oligarch have a DSL, cable or LTE router that
> satisfies those new rules?
> 
> Greetings
> Marc

There are a number of American companies that design and sell routers 
and network equipment of various sorts that might be suitable in this 
market (Cisco, Netgear and Ubiquiti come to mind, but there are 
doubtless many more).  But production of the hardware is all done 
elsewhere.  As far as I have heard, Starlink is the only company with 
production in the USA - that fits your oligarch requirement, but they 
are not what people need for home and small office routers.

The new rules allow models to be certified and cleared for sale in the 
USA, even if they are made in other countries.  I'd imagine that will be 
a cost and an inconvenience to the big manufacturers, but they will get 
their certifications and continue to sell as before.  It will be more of 
a problem for the no-brand and cheapo manufacturers.  Customers will no 
longer be able to buy the cheapest devices from local shops - they will 
either have to buy more expensive "named" devices, or they will get 
their cheap ones from Ali Express.

It all sounds like another poorly conceived attempt at encouraging 
manufacturing in the USA by promoting paranoia and xenophobia.  If the 
rules were based on some kind of common security checks and rules (like 
"no default passwords") that applied equally to all, it would make some 
sense.

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#8579

David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
> […]
> It all sounds like another poorly conceived attempt at encouraging
> manufacturing in the USA by promoting paranoia and xenophobia.  If the
> rules were based on some kind of common security checks and rules
> (like "no default passwords") that applied equally to all, it would
> make some sense.

It may be a grand promotion of tiny (officially) "non routers" linux
computers.  Extreme version: Put A Few Parts Together Yourself.
"Where there's a will, there's a way"

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c74787w149zo
> US bans new foreign-made consumer internet routers
> 2026-03-24T01:26:53.589Z

-- 
[Andrew] Andrzej A. Filip

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