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  chrome questions ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2011-06-07 11:13 -0400
    Re: chrome questions Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2011-06-07 16:41 +0100
      Re: chrome questions ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2011-06-07 12:19 -0400
        Re: chrome questions Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2011-06-07 19:17 +0100
    Re: chrome questions Tobias Blass <tobiasblass@gmx.net> - 2011-06-07 17:09 +0000
      Re: chrome questions ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2011-06-07 14:49 -0400
    Re: chrome questions ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) - 2011-06-07 17:37 -0400
    Re: chrome questions Loki Harfagr <l0k1@thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID> - 2011-06-08 16:59 +0000

#341 — chrome questions

I run two browsers, Firefox 3.6.13 and Chrome 10.0.648.82 dev.  I use
Firefox if a site doesn't deal well with Chrome -- in the last few days,
that's eBay.  Also if I need to scope out Javascript permissions, that's
much easier in FF.  But C wins hand down for memory management and CPU
use.

However, Chrome takes forever and a day to start up, because it tries to
refresh every tab at once, and there's not enough memory for that (I'm 
maxed out at 8 GiB).  Chrome trying though, makes the system thrash like 
crazy and drives the load up over 20.  The system becomes unusable, 
taking several minutes to respond to a keypress.  It takes 30-40 minutes 
to resume normalcy.  I've thought of several solutions (listed in order 
of preference), but I don't know if any of them are possible.
 
1. Chrome postpones loading further tabs until the load drops below
   (say) 4.

2. Each tab loads with a random delay, say between 0 and 120
   seconds.

3. Chrome crashes all tabs, replacing the contents with the "Oh
   snap!  Something went wrong while displaying this webpage." message,
   and only loads it when I hit F5.  Chrome doesn't have a "Refresh all
   tabs" command, so this would either take a while or be an "as needed"
   procedure.

Any ideas?

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#342

ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) writes:
> However, Chrome takes forever and a day to start up, because it tries to
> refresh every tab at once, and there's not enough memory for that (I'm 
> maxed out at 8 GiB).

How many tabs do you have???

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#343

In article <87lixdfy3g.fsf@araminta.anjou.terraraq.org.uk>,
Richard Kettlewell  <rjk@greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) writes:
> > However, Chrome takes forever and a day to start up, because it tries to
> > refresh every tab at once, and there's not enough memory for that (I'm 
> > maxed out at 8 GiB).
> 
> How many tabs do you have???

How does one get an exact number?  Oh, hang on... no, that doesn't work
(shift-esc, "stats for nerds").  Well, say 60 +/- 2.  Every now and then
I copy a bunch of tabs' URLs to my log and close the tab, or worse, a
browser crashes so badly it forgets the list of open tabs and I have to
start fresh with whatever I can recall or extract from the history.

What is the signal for ^Z?  SIGSTOP?

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#345

ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) writes:
> Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> ebenZEROONE@verizon.net (Hactar) writes:

>>> However, Chrome takes forever and a day to start up, because it tries to
>>> refresh every tab at once, and there's not enough memory for that (I'm 
>>> maxed out at 8 GiB).
>> 
>> How many tabs do you have???
>
> How does one get an exact number?  Oh, hang on... no, that doesn't work
> (shift-esc, "stats for nerds").  Well, say 60 +/- 2.  Every now and then
> I copy a bunch of tabs' URLs to my log and close the tab, or worse, a
> browser crashes so badly it forgets the list of open tabs and I have to
> start fresh with whatever I can recall or extract from the history.

Sounds like you would benefit from using bookmarks.

> What is the signal for ^Z?  SIGSTOP?

^Z sends SIGTSTP.

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#344

On 2011-06-07, Hactar <ebenZEROONE@verizon.net> wrote:
> I run two browsers, Firefox 3.6.13 and Chrome 10.0.648.82 dev.  I use
> Firefox if a site doesn't deal well with Chrome -- in the last few days,
> that's eBay.  Also if I need to scope out Javascript permissions, that's
> much easier in FF.  But C wins hand down for memory management and CPU
> use.
>
> However, Chrome takes forever and a day to start up, because it tries to
> refresh every tab at once, and there's not enough memory for that (I'm 
> maxed out at 8 GiB).  Chrome trying though, makes the system thrash like 
> crazy and drives the load up over 20.  The system becomes unusable, 
> taking several minutes to respond to a keypress.  It takes 30-40 minutes 
> to resume normalcy.  I've thought of several solutions (listed in order 
> of preference), but I don't know if any of them are possible.
>  
> 1. Chrome postpones loading further tabs until the load drops below
>    (say) 4.
>
> 2. Each tab loads with a random delay, say between 0 and 120
>    seconds.
>
> 3. Chrome crashes all tabs, replacing the contents with the "Oh
>    snap!  Something went wrong while displaying this webpage." message,
>    and only loads it when I hit F5.  Chrome doesn't have a "Refresh all
>    tabs" command, so this would either take a while or be an "as needed"
>    procedure.
>
> Any ideas?
>

You could just choose "Open the Homepage" instead of "Reopen the pages that
were open last" (and then choose "new Tab page" as your homepage)

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#346

In article <islm15$r6n$1@dont-email.me>,
Tobias Blass  <tobiasblass@gmx.net> wrote:
> On 2011-06-07, Hactar <ebenZEROONE@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > However, Chrome takes forever and a day to start up, because it tries to
> > refresh every tab at once, and there's not enough memory for that (I'm 
> > maxed out at 8 GiB).  Chrome trying though, makes the system thrash like 
> > crazy and drives the load up over 20.  The system becomes unusable, 
> > taking several minutes to respond to a keypress.  It takes 30-40 minutes 
> > to resume normalcy.  I've thought of several solutions (listed in order 
> > of preference), but I don't know if any of them are possible.
...
> > Any ideas?
> 
> You could just choose "Open the Homepage" instead of "Reopen the pages that
> were open last" (and then choose "new Tab page" as your homepage)

Cool, how to make the browser forget all the tabs _without_ waiting for
a crash!  Unless that does something other than what I think it does?
Also, the GUI is darn near unusable during Chrome's startup due to all
the thrashing.

I'm writing a script that suspends all the chrome 'renderer' process
(SIGSTOP), then resumes them one at a time (SIGCONT), waiting each time
until the load drops.  Takes longer than say an ad break, but much less
time than before.

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watermelon in your colon.  Trade toothbrushes with an albino dwarf, then
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#348

In article <npr1c8-fbv.ln1@pc.home>, Hactar <ebenZEROONE@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> However, Chrome takes forever and a day to start up, because it tries to
> refresh every tab at once, and there's not enough memory for that (I'm 
> maxed out at 8 GiB).  Chrome trying though, makes the system thrash like 
> crazy and drives the load up over 20.  The system becomes unusable, 
> taking several minutes to respond to a keypress.  It takes 30-40 minutes 
> to resume normalcy.  I've thought of several solutions (listed in order 
> of preference), but I don't know if any of them are possible.
>  
> 1. Chrome postpones loading further tabs until the load drops below
>    (say) 4.

Got a workaround.  Takes about 4min on an Athlon 64x2, 8 GiB, ~60 tabs.
YMMV.  It's a poor-man's implementation of #1 above.  If you
want to do it too, add this to your ~/.bashrc :

alias cproc='ps ax | grep "[c]hrome.*renderer" | sed "s/^ *//" | cut -f 1 -d " "'
alias csusp='cproc | xargs kill -STOP'

cstart() {
    maxload=4
    pidtime=3
    sleeptime=5 # it only updates every 5s anyway
                        
    counter=0
    pids=(`cproc | tr '\n' ' '`)
    pidcount=${#pids[@]}
    clrmv="$(tput dl1 ; tput hpa 0)"
                                            
    getload() {
        uptime | sed 's/^.*load average: \([^,]*\),.*$/\1/'
    }

    times100() {
        dc -e "$1 100 * p" | sed 's/\..*$//'
    }

    maxload100=$(times100 $maxload)
                     
    waitloop() {
        itll_do=no
        while [ $itll_do = no ] ; do
            load=$(getload)
            load100=$(times100 $load)
            if [ $load100 -lt $maxload100 ] ; then
                itll_do=yes
            else
                echo -n "Load=$load; waiting"
                sleep $sleeptime
                echo -n "$clrmv"
            fi
        done
    }

    if [ $pidcount -eq 0 ] ; then
        echo 'No Chrome processes!'
    else
        echo -n $pidcount Chrome tab groups,
        csusp
        echo " all of which are suspended."
        for pid in ${pids[@]} ; do
            counter=$((counter+1))
            waitloop
            echo -n "Resuming Chrome tab group $counter/$pidcount (PID $pid): "
            kill -CONT $pid
            echo done.
            sleep $pidtime
        done
    fi
}

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#351

Tue, 07 Jun 2011 11:13:27 -0400, Hactar did cat :

> I run two browsers, Firefox 3.6.13 and Chrome 10.0.648.82 dev.  I use
> Firefox if a site doesn't deal well with Chrome -- in the last few days,
> that's eBay.  Also if I need to scope out Javascript permissions, that's
> much easier in FF.  But C wins hand down for memory management and CPU
> use.
> 
> However, Chrome takes forever and a day to start up, because it tries to
> refresh every tab at once, and there's not enough memory for that (I'm
> maxed out at 8 GiB).  Chrome trying though, makes the system thrash like
> crazy and drives the load up over 20.  The system becomes unusable,
> taking several minutes to respond to a keypress.  It takes 30-40 minutes
> to resume normalcy.  I've thought of several solutions (listed in order
> of preference), but I don't know if any of them are possible.
>  
> 1. Chrome postpones loading further tabs until the load drops below
>    (say) 4.
> 
> 2. Each tab loads with a random delay, say between 0 and 120
>    seconds.
> 
> 3. Chrome crashes all tabs, replacing the contents with the "Oh
>    snap!  Something went wrong while displaying this webpage." message,
>    and only loads it when I hit F5.  Chrome doesn't have a "Refresh all
>    tabs" command, so this would either take a while or be an "as needed"
>    procedure.
> 
> Any ideas?

try something like this example:

( WOOP=./beammeup ; rm -r $WOOP ; mkdir $WOOP ; touch  $WOOP/First\ Run ; chrome --user-data-dir=$WOOP ;  rm -r $WOOP )

there are ways (with crossed mounts and more) to even go a few steps beyond but this
should help you to fire up a chrome session in a handful of seconds whether you
have a stuck session or a thousand.
 (At least it works fine on my installations, ATM using Chromium 13.0.752.0)
Play with it, control the 'rm' part to see if there are pieces you'd like to
export/save/control before washing the board.

(and, yes, that's different from the '--incognito' mode)

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