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How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender

Started byLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
First post2014-03-08 00:53 -0800
Last post2014-03-08 17:42 -0800
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  How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-03-08 00:53 -0800
    Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2014-03-08 07:46 -0500
      Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-03-08 10:56 -0800
      Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-03-08 10:58 -0800
        Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-03-08 11:51 -0800
        Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2014-03-08 15:25 -0500
        Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Scott Hemphill <hemphill@hemphills.net> - 2014-03-08 21:07 -0500
          Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Scott Hemphill <hemphill@hemphills.net> - 2014-03-08 21:18 -0500
          Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-08 20:49 -0800
          Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Mark Lloyd <mark@this.is.not.email.invalid> - 2014-03-09 10:50 -0500
        Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2014-03-09 02:49 +0000
          Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-08 20:51 -0800
            Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-08 23:56 -0900
              Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-09 09:39 -0700
                Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-09 11:07 -0800
          Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-08 23:20 -0900
            Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-03-09 07:40 -0700
              Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2014-03-09 21:19 -0400
            Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-09 09:21 -0700
              Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-09 10:57 -0800
                Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-09 16:07 -0700
                  Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-09 17:05 -0800
              Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-03-10 10:40 -0700
                Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-10 12:06 -0800
                Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-10 20:07 -0700
                  Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-11 02:36 -0800
                    Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-11 19:30 -0700
                      Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-11 23:13 -0800
                        Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-12 21:30 -0700
                          Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-13 04:44 -0800
                            Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-13 20:20 -0700
                              Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-13 20:30 -0800
                                Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-13 22:59 -0700
                                  Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender mechanic <mechanic@example.net> - 2014-03-14 11:31 +0000
                                    Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-14 21:50 -0700
                                  Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-14 04:31 -0800
                                    Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender mechanic <mechanic@example.net> - 2014-03-14 13:45 +0000
                                      Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-14 07:26 -0800
                                        Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2014-03-14 11:07 -0500
                                          Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-14 10:23 -0800
                                      Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-14 22:02 -0700
                                        Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-14 21:53 -0800
                                          Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-15 09:49 -0700
                                        Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender mechanic <mechanic@example.net> - 2014-03-15 10:45 +0000
                                          Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-15 09:57 -0700
                                            Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-15 12:28 -0800
                                              Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-15 14:02 -0700
                                                Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-15 14:22 -0800
                                                  Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-15 21:55 -0700
                                                    Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-15 21:25 -0800
                                    Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-14 21:54 -0700
                                    Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-14 21:58 -0700
                    Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-11 19:33 -0700
                      Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-11 23:36 -0800
                        Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender ceed <ceed@is.indeed.invalid> - 2014-03-12 17:05 +0000
                        Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-12 21:48 -0700
                          Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-13 04:46 -0800
                    Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman@tudelft.nl> - 2014-03-12 19:27 +0000
                      Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-03-12 13:32 -0800
                      Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-13 19:18 -0700
      Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-03-08 10:59 -0800
      Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-03-08 11:01 -0800
        Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2014-03-08 15:36 -0500
          Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-03-08 19:06 -0800
            Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> - 2014-03-08 20:54 -0800
            Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2014-03-09 08:03 -0400
              Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Liam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com> - 2014-03-09 07:56 -0700
    Re: How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point network extender Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2014-03-08 17:42 -0800

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#2787

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-03-08 10:59 -0800
Message-ID<d187a$531b6896$43da7656$13524@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#2784
On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 07:46:43 -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:

> The "MAC Address clone" is actually to clone the WAN port.

I was just using that as a "trick" to figure out the MAC
address. Turns out there is a better way in the administrator
area of the WRT54G V5 router, so, please strike the MAC 
clone part from the instructions! :)

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#2788

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-03-08 11:01 -0800
Message-ID<821e7$531b691d$43da7656$13540@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#2784
On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 07:46:43 -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:

> Suggest that you make the "Access Point" router .1.2, 
> and keep a "standard" for all your devices.

This makes sense.

The second router *can* be set up as 192.168.1.(anything that
is not 0 or 1 or 255 or 100 to 150).

Reading a bit more, I agree with you that most people put 
the secondary router on 192.168.1.2 instead of 192.168.1.200 
like I did.

Since the primary router is probably set up as a DHCP
server, it reserves, by default, 100 to 150.

Both 0 and 255 are reserved, and the primary router is
usually on 192.168.1.1.

So, as long as nothing else is on 192.168.1.2 at the time, 
it makes more sense to use 192.168.1.1 for the primary 
router, and then 192.168.1.2 for the secondary router.

I will change it, and reboot the whole house. :)

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#2791

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2014-03-08 15:36 -0500
Message-ID<531B7F61.6040008@djph.net>
In reply to#2788
On 08/03/2014 14:01, Liam O'Connor wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 07:46:43 -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:
> 
>> Suggest that you make the "Access Point" router .1.2, 
>> and keep a "standard" for all your devices.
> 
> This makes sense.
> 
> The second router *can* be set up as 192.168.1.(anything that
> is not 0 or 1 or 255 or 100 to 150).

Right --

*.0 is the network address itself, reserved for when you're talking
about the network as a whole (e.g. "192.168.1.0/24" is a typical
residential network, as given by most SOHO routers).

*.255 is a broadcast address. This is used for stuff like your laptop
sending out packets to the effect of "hey, who has 192.168.1.10?".  All
devices (regardless of their IP address) listen on the *.255 address.

> 
> Reading a bit more, I agree with you that most people put 
> the secondary router on 192.168.1.2 instead of 192.168.1.200 
> like I did.
> 
> Since the primary router is probably set up as a DHCP
> server, it reserves, by default, 100 to 150.
> 
> Both 0 and 255 are reserved, and the primary router is
> usually on 192.168.1.1.
> 
> So, as long as nothing else is on 192.168.1.2 at the time, 
> it makes more sense to use 192.168.1.1 for the primary 
> router, and then 192.168.1.2 for the secondary router.
> 
> I will change it, and reboot the whole house. :)

Shouldn't need to reboot anything.

DNS and DCHP are controlled by your main router, and the secondary
router is ONLY acting as an AP.  Worst case is that you'll need to flip
the hardware switch on the wireless devices so they will re-look for the
network after the second router comes back up -- and that's a "worst
case" scenario.

-Dan

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#2798

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-03-08 19:06 -0800
Message-ID<cfd28$531bdac1$43da7656$16477@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#2791
On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 15:36:49 -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:

> DNS and DCHP are controlled by your main router, and the secondary
> router is ONLY acting as an AP.  Worst case is that you'll need to flip
> the hardware switch on the wireless devices so they will re-look for the
> network after the second router comes back up

What you said was exactly on target.

All the wireless clients seemed to do just fine, with the 
exception of the ps3. 

The ps3 gave the error:
An error occurred during communication with the server.
This is a DNS error.
(8071002)

I had to reboot the network, and re-adjust the settings on the PS3:
Settings->Network Settings->Internet Connection Settings->Adjust
settings->Easy

You'd think the PS3 would be smarter, but it wasn't.

The kids are still getting a random disconnect from PSN
which they hadn't seen before.

Googling, I had to disable the media server. 
Settings->Network Settings->Media Server Connection->Disabled

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#2801

FromDecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org>
Date2014-03-08 20:54 -0800
Message-ID<qssnh9dr36filno6vuu6mlkmgmof5noqqn@4ax.com>
In reply to#2798
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 19:06:31 -0800, Liam O'Connor
<liamoconnor@example.com> Gave us:

>On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 15:36:49 -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:
>
>> DNS and DCHP are controlled by your main router, and the secondary
>> router is ONLY acting as an AP.  Worst case is that you'll need to flip
>> the hardware switch on the wireless devices so they will re-look for the
>> network after the second router comes back up
>
>What you said was exactly on target.
>
>All the wireless clients seemed to do just fine, with the 
>exception of the ps3. 
>
>The ps3 gave the error:
>An error occurred during communication with the server.
>This is a DNS error.
>(8071002)
>
>I had to reboot the network, and re-adjust the settings on the PS3:
>Settings->Network Settings->Internet Connection Settings->Adjust
>settings->Easy
>
>You'd think the PS3 would be smarter, but it wasn't.
>
>The kids are still getting a random disconnect from PSN
>which they hadn't seen before.
>
>Googling, I had to disable the media server. 
>Settings->Network Settings->Media Server Connection->Disabled


  Thank you sir for that tid bit!

  I can now fix mine.  Don't use my dang (broken) PSP with it anyway.

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#2804

FromDan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
Date2014-03-09 08:03 -0400
Message-ID<531C5894.8080708@djph.net>
In reply to#2798
On 08/03/2014 22:06, Liam O'Connor wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Mar 2014 15:36:49 -0500, Dan Purgert wrote:
> 
>> DNS and DCHP are controlled by your main router, and the secondary
>> router is ONLY acting as an AP.  Worst case is that you'll need to flip
>> the hardware switch on the wireless devices so they will re-look for the
>> network after the second router comes back up
> 
> What you said was exactly on target.
> 
> All the wireless clients seemed to do just fine, with the 
> exception of the ps3. 
> 
> 

I've got one that's ~20 feet (line of sight, even!) from the AP and it
was DC'ing all the time.  I'm thinking that there's just too much
interference coming from the cable box, TV, etc. to actually keep a
sustainable wifi connection going.  I got lucky and it was really easy
to just put a run thru the basement back over to the AP (i.e. under the
floor, and back up).

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#2806

FromLiam O'Connor <liamoconnor@example.com>
Date2014-03-09 07:56 -0700
Message-ID<48d58$531c8112$43da7656$31975@nntpswitch.blueworldhosting.com>
In reply to#2804
On Sun, 09 Mar 2014 08:03:32 -0400, Dan Purgert wrote:

> 've got one that's ~20 feet (line of sight, even!) from the AP 
> and it was DC'ing all the time.  

Now that's interesting.
I had almost exactly the same experience.

The Play Station 3 is only about 15 feet from the spare Linksys
WRT54G v5 router, and it was the only client that was ungraceful
about the new network.

It was on the "old" SSID of FOOBAR, but my kids said it wasn't
on the network when I added the spare router as a wired repeater.

So, I instinctively rebooted the PS3, and that's when it started
giving the (8071002) DNS error. I doublechecked to see if I could
set the DNS server to 8.8.8.8 on the spare router, but, I was 
surprised there is no way to do that given its configuration
(DHCP server turned off, Gateway mode, etc.).

So then I unplugged backward and rebooted forward (typical 
network reboot procedure). Still it gave the 8071002 DNS error. 

So, Googling I found what appeared to be every kid on the planet
with the same 8071002 DNS error, most of which simply said to
tell it to readjust the settings.  So, that's what I did:
Settings->Network Settings->Internet Connection Settings->Adjust
settings->Easy

This made the 8071002 DNS error go away. But the kids said they
could now log into the PSN but it would disconnect them randomly.

I was perplexed because, as with you, the Sony PS3 is only about 
15 feet from the spare router. In addition, I don't know of *any*
other sources of interference within 40 feet of that PS3. 

Googling, I found the random disconnect also a typical error, 
although not as prevalent as the 8071002 DNS error. The most
common solution was to disable the media server:
Settings->Network Settings->Media Server Connection->Disabled

At the same time I disabled the Media Server on the PS3 (I had
to look up what that even was), I plugged a patch cable in from
the spare router, running loosely along the floor, to the PS3).

The kids haven't complained.
So, that's how I left it.
Until the wife finds out (about the loose wire) ... :)

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#2793

FromBig Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local>
Date2014-03-08 17:42 -0800
Message-ID<LNWdncujjc-YWobOnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#2783
On 03/08/14 00:53, Liam O'Connor so wittily quipped:
> How to set up a spare Linksys WRT54Gv2 as a wired access point.

does the newest firmware support WDS?  then you'd just configure all APs
for WDS with the same SSID, and enable roaming on your client machine,
and the client simply picks the best AP.  I think that WDS will allow a
remote AP to act as a client of the master, and route between them
wirelessly.  For most uses that would be good enough.

found this link:  http://www.connect802.com/wireless_bridging.htm

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