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| Started by | Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> |
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| First post | 2013-09-05 19:11 +0300 |
| Last post | 2013-09-09 01:57 +0200 |
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Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-05 19:11 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2013-09-05 18:13 +0000
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-06 09:19 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2013-09-06 08:50 +0000
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-06 12:06 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2013-09-06 14:10 -0400
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-07 08:33 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2013-09-07 08:33 -0400
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-07 23:24 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2013-09-07 16:54 -0400
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-08 09:58 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-08 10:57 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2013-09-08 10:11 -0400
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-08 17:16 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Todd <Todd@invalid.invalid> - 2013-09-08 18:23 -0700
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Todd <Todd@invalid.invalid> - 2013-09-08 18:35 -0700
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2013-09-09 17:11 -0400
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Todd <Todd@invalid.invalid> - 2013-09-09 14:40 -0700
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2013-09-09 18:15 -0400
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2013-09-08 16:42 +0200
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-08 18:41 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2013-09-08 17:56 +0100
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-09 11:09 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2013-09-09 21:31 +0100
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2013-09-09 19:35 +0000
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Todd <Todd@invalid.invalid> - 2013-09-06 00:22 -0700
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-06 11:09 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Todd <Todd@invalid.invalid> - 2013-09-07 15:39 -0700
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Todd <Todd@invalid.invalid> - 2013-09-07 15:41 -0700
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Todd <Todd@invalid.invalid> - 2013-09-07 16:20 -0700
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-08 09:54 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Todd <Todd@invalid.invalid> - 2013-09-08 13:15 -0700
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-09 11:29 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Todd <Todd@invalid.invalid> - 2013-09-09 11:44 -0700
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2013-09-09 22:07 +0100
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2013-09-09 17:33 -0400
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2013-09-10 16:38 +0100
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-10 22:37 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2013-09-10 23:04 +0200
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Whiskers <catwheezel@operamail.com> - 2013-09-10 22:05 +0100
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> - 2013-09-06 11:10 +0200
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-06 12:17 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2013-09-08 16:34 +0200
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> - 2013-09-08 18:37 +0300
Re: Trying to utilize mailx to send mail via apython script David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2013-09-09 01:57 +0200
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| From | David Brown <david@westcontrol.removethisbit.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-09-06 11:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ytydndBJypiLAbTPnZ2dnUVZ8nSdnZ2d@lyse.net> |
| In reply to | #2248 |
On 05/09/13 18:11, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
>
>
> i as root just installed
>
> sendmail and mailx. i have edited the ~/.mailrc to use:
>
>
> nikos@superhost.gr [~/www/cgi-bin]# cat ~/.mailrc
> account gmail {
> set smtp-use-starttls
> set smtp=smtp://smtp.gmail.com:587
> set smtp-auth=login
> set smtp-auth-user=may)gmail
> set smtp-auth-password=my_gmail_pass_not_stupid_enough_to_wite _it_again
> }e
>
>
>
> And now i'm trying to:
>
>
> cmd = "echo %s | mailx -A gmail -r %s -s %s %s" % (MESSAGE, FROM,
> SUBJECT, TO)
> p=subprocess.Popen( cmd, shell=True, stdout=subprocess.PIPE )
> output, errors = p.communicate()
> print( errors, output )
>
>
> Any ideas please why this fails to work?
> while i remove the '-A gmail' string in the cmd line then i can send
> fast mail but only to mail containing the @superhost.gr trail.
>
> i need to be eble to send to external mails to.
The obvious question here is why are you trying to use sendmail and
mailx? You are writing a script in Python, and you want to send mail
via an SMTP server. Just use Python's SMTP module.
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| From | Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> |
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| Date | 2013-09-06 12:17 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <l0c6jm$38m$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2255 |
Στις 6/9/2013 12:10 μμ, ο/η David Brown έγραψε:
> On 05/09/13 18:11, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
>>
>>
>> i as root just installed
>>
>> sendmail and mailx. i have edited the ~/.mailrc to use:
>>
>>
>> nikos@superhost.gr [~/www/cgi-bin]# cat ~/.mailrc
>> account gmail {
>> set smtp-use-starttls
>> set smtp=smtp://smtp.gmail.com:587
>> set smtp-auth=login
>> set smtp-auth-user=may)gmail
>> set smtp-auth-password=my_gmail_pass_not_stupid_enough_to_wite _it_again
>> }e
>>
>>
>>
>> And now i'm trying to:
>>
>>
>> cmd = "echo %s | mailx -A gmail -r %s -s %s %s" % (MESSAGE, FROM,
>> SUBJECT, TO)
>> p=subprocess.Popen( cmd, shell=True, stdout=subprocess.PIPE )
>> output, errors = p.communicate()
>> print( errors, output )
>>
>>
>> Any ideas please why this fails to work?
>> while i remove the '-A gmail' string in the cmd line then i can send
>> fast mail but only to mail containing the @superhost.gr trail.
>>
>> i need to be eble to send to external mails to.
>
> The obvious question here is why are you trying to use sendmail and
> mailx? You are writing a script in Python, and you want to send mail
> via an SMTP server. Just use Python's SMTP module.
>
Liek this you mean:
# open Gmail's SMTP server
#server = smtplib.SMTP('smtp.gmail.com:587')
#server.ehlo()
#server.starttls()
# next, log in to the server
#server.login("my@gmail.com", "my_pass")
Because GMail tend to add a Sender field when receiving my mail
supresing the real FROM field used in the webform to my Gmail's auth
account.
I want to avoid that by using my own mail server so my mails appear for
the correct client mail and not all of them from as coming from my GMail
account/
--
Webhost <http://superhost.gr>
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| From | David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-09-08 16:34 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <0rOdnZL-mtiaFrHPnZ2dnUVZ7qCdnZ2d@lyse.net> |
| In reply to | #2256 |
On 06/09/13 11:17, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
> Στις 6/9/2013 12:10 μμ, ο/η David Brown έγραψε:
>> On 05/09/13 18:11, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> i as root just installed
>>>
>>> sendmail and mailx. i have edited the ~/.mailrc to use:
>>>
>>>
>>> nikos@superhost.gr [~/www/cgi-bin]# cat ~/.mailrc
>>> account gmail {
>>> set smtp-use-starttls
>>> set smtp=smtp://smtp.gmail.com:587
>>> set smtp-auth=login
>>> set smtp-auth-user=may)gmail
>>> set smtp-auth-password=my_gmail_pass_not_stupid_enough_to_wite _it_again
>>> }e
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And now i'm trying to:
>>>
>>>
>>> cmd = "echo %s | mailx -A gmail -r %s -s %s %s" % (MESSAGE, FROM,
>>> SUBJECT, TO)
>>> p=subprocess.Popen( cmd, shell=True, stdout=subprocess.PIPE )
>>> output, errors = p.communicate()
>>> print( errors, output )
>>>
>>>
>>> Any ideas please why this fails to work?
>>> while i remove the '-A gmail' string in the cmd line then i can send
>>> fast mail but only to mail containing the @superhost.gr trail.
>>>
>>> i need to be eble to send to external mails to.
>>
>> The obvious question here is why are you trying to use sendmail and
>> mailx? You are writing a script in Python, and you want to send mail
>> via an SMTP server. Just use Python's SMTP module.
>>
> Liek this you mean:
>
> # open Gmail's SMTP server
> #server = smtplib.SMTP('smtp.gmail.com:587')
> #server.ehlo()
> #server.starttls()
>
> # next, log in to the server
> #server.login("my@gmail.com", "my_pass")
>
>
> Because GMail tend to add a Sender field when receiving my mail
> supresing the real FROM field used in the webform to my Gmail's auth
> account.
>
> I want to avoid that by using my own mail server so my mails appear for
> the correct client mail and not all of them from as coming from my GMail
> account/
>
I have no experience with GMail, but there you can put whatever you want
in the sender field (or any other field) when you connect to an SMTP
server. And the SMTP server can always choose to override fields with
its own settings if it wants. This applies equally to when you are
using Python's SMTP module to connect to the GMail server, or when you
send first to one SMTP server and relay on to GMail.
Since Python's SMTP module "speaks" SMTP to gmail, and any other mail
program or MTA that will send mail via a gmail relay also "speaks" SMTP
for that transfer, I would be very surprised if there is some effect you
can get with an additional program or relay that you cannot get by using
Python directly.
Your ISP should also have an SMTP server that you can connect to in the
same way (via Python), and send it on that way.
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| From | Ferrous Cranus <nikos@superhost.gr> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-09-08 18:37 +0300 |
| Message-ID | <l0i5j5$nfn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #2271 |
Στις 8/9/2013 5:34 μμ, ο/η David Brown έγραψε:
> On 06/09/13 11:17, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
>> Στις 6/9/2013 12:10 μμ, ο/η David Brown έγραψε:
>>> On 05/09/13 18:11, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i as root just installed
>>>>
>>>> sendmail and mailx. i have edited the ~/.mailrc to use:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> nikos@superhost.gr [~/www/cgi-bin]# cat ~/.mailrc
>>>> account gmail {
>>>> set smtp-use-starttls
>>>> set smtp=smtp://smtp.gmail.com:587
>>>> set smtp-auth=login
>>>> set smtp-auth-user=may)gmail
>>>> set smtp-auth-password=my_gmail_pass_not_stupid_enough_to_wite
>>>> _it_again
>>>> }e
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And now i'm trying to:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> cmd = "echo %s | mailx -A gmail -r %s -s %s %s" % (MESSAGE, FROM,
>>>> SUBJECT, TO)
>>>> p=subprocess.Popen( cmd, shell=True, stdout=subprocess.PIPE )
>>>> output, errors = p.communicate()
>>>> print( errors, output )
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas please why this fails to work?
>>>> while i remove the '-A gmail' string in the cmd line then i can send
>>>> fast mail but only to mail containing the @superhost.gr trail.
>>>>
>>>> i need to be eble to send to external mails to.
>>>
>>> The obvious question here is why are you trying to use sendmail and
>>> mailx? You are writing a script in Python, and you want to send mail
>>> via an SMTP server. Just use Python's SMTP module.
>>>
>> Liek this you mean:
>>
>> # open Gmail's SMTP server
>> #server = smtplib.SMTP('smtp.gmail.com:587')
>> #server.ehlo()
>> #server.starttls()
>>
>> # next, log in to the server
>> #server.login("my@gmail.com", "my_pass")
>>
>>
>> Because GMail tend to add a Sender field when receiving my mail
>> supresing the real FROM field used in the webform to my Gmail's auth
>> account.
>>
>> I want to avoid that by using my own mail server so my mails appear for
>> the correct client mail and not all of them from as coming from my GMail
>> account/
>>
>
> I have no experience with GMail, but there you can put whatever you want
> in the sender field (or any other field) when you connect to an SMTP
> server. And the SMTP server can always choose to override fields with
> its own settings if it wants. This applies equally to when you are
> using Python's SMTP module to connect to the GMail server, or when you
> send first to one SMTP server and relay on to GMail.
>
> Since Python's SMTP module "speaks" SMTP to gmail, and any other mail
> program or MTA that will send mail via a gmail relay also "speaks" SMTP
> for that transfer, I would be very surprised if there is some effect you
> can get with an additional program or relay that you cannot get by using
> Python directly.
>
> Your ISP should also have an SMTP server that you can connect to in the
> same way (via Python), and send it on that way.
>
>
If i setup some mail server on localhost can i alter the from field to
the one i want and suppress the hostname of the server?
Thai is what i want to know.
GMail doesnt care what you tell it to be the FROM field, it always ads
up an authenticated Sender address into the headers and also display the
hostname used to directly connect to it.
--
Webhost <http://superhost.gr>
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| From | David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2013-09-09 01:57 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <qPGdncOie7Z8k7DPnZ2dnUVZ8qadnZ2d@lyse.net> |
| In reply to | #2273 |
On 08/09/13 17:37, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
> Στις 8/9/2013 5:34 μμ, ο/η David Brown έγραψε:
>> On 06/09/13 11:17, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
>>> Στις 6/9/2013 12:10 μμ, ο/η David Brown έγραψε:
>>>> On 05/09/13 18:11, Ferrous Cranus wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> i as root just installed
>>>>>
>>>>> sendmail and mailx. i have edited the ~/.mailrc to use:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> nikos@superhost.gr [~/www/cgi-bin]# cat ~/.mailrc
>>>>> account gmail {
>>>>> set smtp-use-starttls
>>>>> set smtp=smtp://smtp.gmail.com:587
>>>>> set smtp-auth=login
>>>>> set smtp-auth-user=may)gmail
>>>>> set smtp-auth-password=my_gmail_pass_not_stupid_enough_to_wite
>>>>> _it_again
>>>>> }e
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And now i'm trying to:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> cmd = "echo %s | mailx -A gmail -r %s -s %s %s" % (MESSAGE, FROM,
>>>>> SUBJECT, TO)
>>>>> p=subprocess.Popen( cmd, shell=True, stdout=subprocess.PIPE )
>>>>> output, errors = p.communicate()
>>>>> print( errors, output )
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas please why this fails to work?
>>>>> while i remove the '-A gmail' string in the cmd line then i can send
>>>>> fast mail but only to mail containing the @superhost.gr trail.
>>>>>
>>>>> i need to be eble to send to external mails to.
>>>>
>>>> The obvious question here is why are you trying to use sendmail and
>>>> mailx? You are writing a script in Python, and you want to send mail
>>>> via an SMTP server. Just use Python's SMTP module.
>>>>
>>> Liek this you mean:
>>>
>>> # open Gmail's SMTP server
>>> #server = smtplib.SMTP('smtp.gmail.com:587')
>>> #server.ehlo()
>>> #server.starttls()
>>>
>>> # next, log in to the server
>>> #server.login("my@gmail.com", "my_pass")
>>>
>>>
>>> Because GMail tend to add a Sender field when receiving my mail
>>> supresing the real FROM field used in the webform to my Gmail's auth
>>> account.
>>>
>>> I want to avoid that by using my own mail server so my mails appear for
>>> the correct client mail and not all of them from as coming from my GMail
>>> account/
>>>
>>
>> I have no experience with GMail, but there you can put whatever you want
>> in the sender field (or any other field) when you connect to an SMTP
>> server. And the SMTP server can always choose to override fields with
>> its own settings if it wants. This applies equally to when you are
>> using Python's SMTP module to connect to the GMail server, or when you
>> send first to one SMTP server and relay on to GMail.
>>
>> Since Python's SMTP module "speaks" SMTP to gmail, and any other mail
>> program or MTA that will send mail via a gmail relay also "speaks" SMTP
>> for that transfer, I would be very surprised if there is some effect you
>> can get with an additional program or relay that you cannot get by using
>> Python directly.
>>
>> Your ISP should also have an SMTP server that you can connect to in the
>> same way (via Python), and send it on that way.
>>
>>
>
> If i setup some mail server on localhost can i alter the from field to
> the one i want and suppress the hostname of the server?
>
> Thai is what i want to know.
>
> GMail doesnt care what you tell it to be the FROM field, it always ads
> up an authenticated Sender address into the headers and also display the
> hostname used to directly connect to it.
>
>
One last time - you can do /exactly/ the same thing from Python.
<http://docs.python.org/2/library/smtplib.html#smtp-example>
And again, /don't/ do this with other people's email addresses. Unless
you are specifically making a website with this intention (i.e., a
web-based email client), then this is verging on fraud. It is certainly
not what users would expect or like.
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