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Re: Need help with iptables and ftp

From Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.networking
Subject Re: Need help with iptables and ftp
Date 2018-09-04 20:36 +0200
Organization Plouf !
Message-ID <pmmjas$j4n$1@saria.nerim.net> (permalink)
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Le 04/09/2018 à 18:00, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
> On 9/1/18 4:14 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>> Le 01/09/2018 à 08:56, Tauno Voipio a écrit :
>>>
>>> The address and port are inside the TCP message,
>>> not only in the IP header. This makes it awful
>>> to firewall and/or NAT.
>>
>> Indeed. It is a violation of the network layers separation.
>> Other protocols such as SIP (VoIP) do the same. Should it die too ?
> 
> I'm well aware that SIP does that too. It has an excuse, in that for SIP
> latency is everything, so I'm willing to cut it some slack there; but
> for FTP, who gives a **** about latency?

What does latency have to do here ?

>> Note that setting up separate control and data connections has
>> advantages. It allows to do direct transfers between two FTP servers
>> (FXP) controlled by a client.
> 
> How many clients support that reliably?
> How many FTP server configurations won't go coocoo when you try?
> How often have you done this?

I do not remember ever trying it. This is probably not possible any more 
in the current state of the internet full of NATs and firewalls. I admit 
FXP is not a essential feature of FTP, merely a side effect. If you want 
to transfer files directly between two servers, just ssh into one and 
start the transfer from there.

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Need help with iptables and ftp T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-24 15:39 -0700
  Re: Need help with iptables and ftp T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-24 16:11 -0700
  Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-08-25 07:23 +0000
    Re: Need help with iptables and ftp T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-25 23:13 -0700
      Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-08-26 11:35 +0200
        Re: Need help with iptables and ftp T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-26 14:05 -0700
          Re: Need help with iptables and ftp William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-27 00:02 +0000
            Re: Need help with iptables and ftp T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-26 17:11 -0700
              Re: Need help with iptables and ftp William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-27 02:00 +0000
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-26 19:37 -0700
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-26 22:59 -0400
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-26 20:42 -0700
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-27 00:29 -0400
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-26 22:06 -0700
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-27 09:47 +0000
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-09-03 20:47 +0200
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-27 09:44 +0000
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-27 06:17 -0400
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-27 12:21 -0700
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-09-03 20:55 +0200
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Scott Hemphill <hemphill@hemphills.net> - 2018-08-27 11:22 -0400
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-27 12:18 -0700
          Re: Need help with iptables and ftp T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-26 17:44 -0700
      Re: Need help with iptables and ftp T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-26 17:43 -0700
  Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-28 11:28 +0000
    Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-08-29 05:38 +0000
      Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2018-08-29 10:13 +0300
      Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 09:52 +0000
        Re: Need help with iptables and ftp William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-29 12:13 +0000
          Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-29 12:27 +0000
            Re: Need help with iptables and ftp "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-29 11:14 -0400
              Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2018-08-29 23:15 +0200
              Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2018-08-30 10:35 +0200
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-08-30 13:16 +0000
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-30 16:15 +0100
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2018-08-30 18:42 +0200
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-31 00:31 +0000
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2018-08-31 05:49 +0000
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2018-08-31 12:48 +0200
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-31 22:11 +0000
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2018-09-01 09:56 +0300
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-09-01 16:14 +0200
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2018-09-04 18:00 +0200
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-09-04 20:36 +0200
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2018-09-05 10:25 +0200
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-09-05 20:30 +0200
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2018-09-06 00:03 +0200
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Pascal Hambourg <pascal@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2018-09-01 15:56 +0200
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-09-01 19:18 +0000
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2018-09-04 18:01 +0200
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2018-08-31 00:25 +0000
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2018-08-30 20:34 -0400
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-31 09:25 +0000
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> - 2018-08-31 12:50 +0200
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-08-31 11:13 +0000
                Re: Need help with iptables and ftp Allodoxaphobia <knock_yourself_out@example.net> - 2018-08-31 12:30 +0000

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