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Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.networking
Subject Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts
Date 2019-04-06 20:28 +0200
Message-ID <in7nnf-0fe.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
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On 06/04/2019 20.13, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2019-04-06, Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:


>> In any case password-based authentication is disabled for those systems.
> 
> Is it really cler that passwordless login is better? 
> If they get into a machine which you allow
> remote access to your machine/account,  they have access to your
> machine So are you sure that all of the machines that you allow to
> access your system are safe as well, that none of the users on those
> machines have weak passwords? 

There may be some confussion here.

It is possible to access an ssh site without using the password of the
site, by using a key pair (RSA? PKCS?). But access to these keys needs
another password, which may be disabled (I don't). Rather, the desktop
remembers the passphrase to access the keys for ssh access, so it seems
passwordless but it isn't.

An attacker that gets access to that client machine doesn't get access
to the server - however, the client machine may have both key files
stored. Are those two enough to get access?

> The only breakin I have had was because one of my trusted users had a
> network around the world of machines on which they used passwordless
> login. Someone  broke into a machine across the world from me, tracked 
> back through the network and got to my machine. 
> The passwordless feature made the process easy. ( and yes, if machine B
> has a passwordless attachment to broken A, then A probably has one to B.
> Far far far easier than "brute force" on even an easy password.)

Yes.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Increased SSH breakin attempts Harold Johanssen <noemail@please.net> - 2019-04-03 20:17 +0000
  Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca> - 2019-04-03 16:38 -0400
    Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts Harold Johanssen <noemail@please.net> - 2019-04-03 21:13 +0000
      Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-04-03 15:23 -0600
    Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-04-03 23:14 +0200
  Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts Dick <rsutton43@comcast.net> - 2019-04-03 17:33 -0400
    Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts Harold Johanssen <noemail@please.net> - 2019-04-03 22:01 +0000
      Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-04-04 00:27 +0000
        Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts Harold Johanssen <noemail@please.net> - 2019-04-04 14:02 +0000
          Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-04-04 18:22 +0000
            Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts Harold Johanssen <noemail@please.net> - 2019-04-04 19:15 +0000
  Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-04-03 21:51 +0000
    Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-04-05 18:08 +0000
      Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-04-05 18:45 +0000
        Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2019-04-05 22:24 +0000
        Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-04-06 11:40 +0100
          Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-04-06 12:53 +0200
          Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-04-06 18:13 +0000
            Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-04-06 20:28 +0200
              Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-04-06 18:54 +0000
              Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-04-07 08:08 +0100
                Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2019-04-07 15:43 +0000
                Re: Increased SSH breakin attempts Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-04-07 16:52 +0100

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