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| Started by | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| First post | 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400 |
| Last post | 2025-11-24 23:48 +0000 |
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AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 09:37 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:21 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 19:35 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 22:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-09-30 23:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 01:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 04:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:40 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-10-10 18:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 02:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-11 11:00 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-11 19:39 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:31 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:09 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-11 19:03 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-11 22:28 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 12:04 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-12 19:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-13 03:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-13 10:19 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-13 19:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 01:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 07:09 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 20:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 10:04 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:06 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-14 11:32 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-14 12:45 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 22:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 14:30 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 21:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-14 23:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 06:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-15 03:30 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-15 16:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-15 21:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-16 18:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 18:59 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-16 13:43 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 02:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-17 07:58 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-17 17:38 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 22:16 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-18 08:53 -0400
Bikes [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 20:02 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-18 19:51 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-18 22:55 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 02:32 +0000
Nuisance fauna [Was: AI-Based Coding Taking Over] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-19 13:31 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-19 08:41 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-19 11:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:57 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 00:23 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 05:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 03:32 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:34 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 23:22 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-10-21 08:54 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:22 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:21 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:07 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:42 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:11 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-25 10:47 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 08:19 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:50 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-22 11:32 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 20:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 11:53 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:32 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-20 21:52 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:44 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:34 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:41 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 05:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 02:23 -0400
Oil leaks "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:13 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:29 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-20 20:48 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 04:10 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:39 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 20:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:48 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:02 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:34 -0400
Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:30 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-22 18:03 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:51 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:54 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:26 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 21:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-23 04:01 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:27 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 20:59 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 04:47 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 22:09 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:43 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:23 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-25 20:51 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-26 19:58 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 11:00 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-26 18:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-26 22:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 00:48 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-27 03:12 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 10:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 02:54 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 08:23 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-26 22:45 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-27 03:07 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 14:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 14:31 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 20:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-27 14:17 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 05:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:08 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-27 22:30 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-28 11:25 -0700
The Good Ol' Days of Computing? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:15 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-29 02:12 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-29 08:43 -0700
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-29 21:30 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 03:07 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 00:49 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 06:29 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 07:00 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 11:32 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:39 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-30 11:29 -0400
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-30 16:37 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-30 20:21 +0000
Re: The Good Ol' Days of Computing? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 04:01 +0000
Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 09:21 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-27 16:53 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-27 13:48 -0400
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 20:53 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-27 13:56 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-28 06:30 -0400
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 08:15 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:44 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 12:51 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-10-28 15:39 -0700
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 02:14 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-29 01:52 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-28 19:37 +0000
Re: Personal computer (was Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-27 10:18 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-10-27 13:42 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-27 21:18 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-28 07:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-27 19:28 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-10-24 03:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:21 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:57 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:23 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:35 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:13 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:38 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:17 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 19:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:29 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 14:59 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-23 19:09 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:49 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:38 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 19:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-24 13:05 -0700
Agriculture "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 22:25 +0200
Re: Agriculture rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 02:22 +0000
Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:21 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 20:14 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 15:06 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:01 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 10:09 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:40 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 21:22 +0200
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-25 01:54 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-25 15:20 +0200
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 00:28 -0400
Re: Vehicles The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-23 08:55 +0100
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-23 15:09 +0200
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 17:46 +0000
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:08 +0000
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-10-23 22:28 +0000
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 05:09 +0000
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 01:43 +0200
Re: Vehicles "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 01:47 +0200
Re: Vehicles Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-13 17:25 +0000
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:51 -0400
Pouring a coffee into a street drain. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-24 09:59 +0200
Re: Pouring a coffee into a street drain. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-24 18:43 +0000
Re: Vehicles c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-23 22:45 -0400
Re: Vehicles rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-23 20:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 00:32 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-20 23:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:50 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-19 20:40 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-10-19 14:24 -0700
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 06:04 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-20 10:48 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-20 19:52 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 01:02 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 03:39 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 01:33 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-21 21:33 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-21 23:37 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-22 06:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-22 03:38 -0400
Vehicles. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-22 14:35 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-21 19:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-17 17:36 +0000
Car inspections. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-10-15 14:35 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 21:38 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-14 19:12 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-15 11:55 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-10-16 03:07 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 02:56 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-14 21:06 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-15 11:59 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-16 01:00 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-16 07:29 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-16 11:22 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-17 22:34 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 18:11 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-01 21:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-01 23:45 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 22:19 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-02 11:15 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:59 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 06:20 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-02 03:05 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-02 07:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 18:37 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:29 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 05:06 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2025-10-03 11:33 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:46 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 00:25 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-03 04:44 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 01:18 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 21:05 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:37 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 08:54 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-03 10:02 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-10-03 20:41 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:24 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:21 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-03 23:20 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-04 17:04 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-10-03 08:03 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2025-10-02 22:55 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:06 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Jason H <jason_hindle@yahoo.com> - 2025-10-01 20:26 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:58 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-09-30 11:25 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-30 12:56 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:48 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-01 21:36 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-30 22:16 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-10-31 16:52 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-10-31 20:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-31 22:45 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-10-31 22:35 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:42 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-25 08:07 +0100
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 03:58 -0500
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-01 11:19 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-01 17:32 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-01 21:09 -0400
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 19:09 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-02 19:30 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-03 02:28 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-02 01:17 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-11-03 07:52 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-02 22:21 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2025-11-03 09:30 +1000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over John McCue <jmclnx@gmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-03 14:14 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:49 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-24 23:08 -0500
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-25 06:56 +0000
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 04:03 -0500
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-11-26 13:23 +0200
Re: AI-Based Coding Taking Over Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 23:48 +0000
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-09-30 00:12 -0400 |
| Subject | AI-Based Coding Taking Over |
| Message-ID | <B7Scncrt7okKxUb1nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
https://www.newsnationnow.com/business/tech/tech-headlines/ap-ai-is-transforming-how-software-engineers-do-their-jobs-just-dont-call-it-vibe-coding/ . . . Yep, it's the end. Humans will know less and less actual code, what it does, how it works. They will just 'explain' to the AI what they want, more or less. Progress ? Progress to doom ?
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-30 09:37 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <utdsqlx4ta.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #75447 |
On 2025-09-30 06:12, c186282 wrote: > https://www.newsnationnow.com/business/tech/tech-headlines/ap-ai-is- > transforming-how-software-engineers-do-their-jobs-just-dont-call-it- > vibe-coding/ > > . . . > > Yep, it's the end. Humans will know less and > less actual code, what it does, how it works. > They will just 'explain' to the AI what they > want, more or less. > > Progress ? Progress to doom ? I wonder if an AI can reliably translate one computer language to another. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-30 19:21 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <45gtqlxlvf.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #75454 |
On 2025-09-30 16:32, Stefan Ram wrote: > ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote or quoted: >> . With the nice structuring using empty lines and comments, >> the code is very readable and maintainable. > > And with the careful error checking the code is already > better than code produced by many human programmers! Nice :-) -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-30 19:35 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <wwva52biy9m.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> |
| In reply to | #75454 |
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) writes: > ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote or quoted: >>. With the nice structuring using empty lines and comments, >>the code is very readable and maintainable. > > And with the careful error checking the code is already > better than code produced by many human programmers! It has some error checking, but it can hardly be called ‘careful’; it’s incomplete. None of the I/O is error-checked. -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-30 22:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10bhmhr$3vti3$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #75480 |
On Tue, 30 Sep 2025 19:35:49 +0100, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > It has some error checking, but it can hardly be called ‘careful’; > it’s incomplete. None of the I/O is error-checked. It’s a bit difficult to check for error conditions when trying to report error conditions ...
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-30 22:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10bhmas$3vti3$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #75454 |
On 30 Sep 2025 14:25:03 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote:
> Me,
>
> |Please translate this bash script to C for Debian Linux:
> |
> |```
> |#!/bin/bash
> |echo "Hello, world!"
> |date
> |```
>
> , chatbot,
>
> |#include <stdio.h>
> |#include <stdlib.h>
> |
> |int main() {
> | // Print "Hello, world!"
> | printf("Hello, world!\n");
> |
> | // Call the system date command
> | system("date");
> |
> | return 0;
> |}
Obvious deficiency: the bash script will report any errors trying to
invoke the “date” command, the C code will not.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-30 22:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10bhmfu$3vti3$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #75454 |
On 30 Sep 2025 14:25:03 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote:
> | if (strftime(buffer, sizeof(buffer), "%c", local)) {
> | printf("%s\n", buffer);
> | } else {
> | fprintf(stderr, "strftime failed\n");
> | return 1;
> | }
From <https://manpages.debian.org/strftime(3)>:
Note that the return value 0 does not necessarily indicate an
error. For example, in many locales %p yields an empty string. An
empty format string will likewise yield an empty string.
Seems like AIs are just as bad at reading documentation as many human
programmers ...
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-09-30 23:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10bhq58$uqv$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #75500 |
On 30 Sep 2025 23:05:46 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote: > Adding checks for error codes at each and every place has some > drawbacks, like cluttering up the code. Sometimes it matters, > sometimes not. If you skip an error check, and then one day the error happens, and your program behaves mysteriously at some later point, not obviously linked to the point where the error actually occurred ... in short, it doesn’t matter, until it does. > |The hardest single part of building a software system is deciding > |precisely what to build. No other part of the conceptual work is so > |difficult as establishing the detailed technical requirements . . . > |No other part of the work so cripples the resulting system if done > |wrong. No other part is more difficult to rectify later. > Brooks, F.P. Jr., The Mythical Man-Month: Essays on Software > Engineering, Addison Wesley, Reading, MA, 1995, Second Edition. That’s more about high-level design than low-level coding, which is what we’re dealing with here.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-01 01:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10bhup7$23b3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #75504 |
On 1 Oct 2025 00:10:52 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote: > One might write quick one-off test programs, utilities meant to > solve a specific, temporary problem, throwaway scripts or early > prototypes where the damage by the time lost to write perfect checks > for each and every return code and structure the program around this > might outweigh the possible damage by such errors. Typically not the kind of thing you would do in C.
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-01 01:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10bhuqc$23b3$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #75504 |
On 1 Oct 2025 00:56:23 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote: > ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote or quoted: >> >>prototypes where the damage by the time lost to write perfect > > |the right thing takes a long time to get out > "Lisp: Good News, Bad News, How to Win Big" (1991) > - Richard P. Gabriel (1949) Lisp being an example of the kind of thing you might use instead of C.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-01 03:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lB1DQ.183382$BN1e.94932@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #75504 |
On 2025-10-01, Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote: > Many error checks are added to make error situations managable to > non-programming users of a program. When a programmer writes code > for his own use, he can sometimes tolerate more cryptic raw error > messages as they come from the runtime or consciously decide to > take some risks when he himself would be their only victim. You mean more cyptic than "Something went wrong"? It used to be that a singularly unhelpful message like "It didn't work" only came from Users from Hell. Nowadays I'm seeing it in more and more software - and that goes in spades for web pages. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-01 04:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10bicc2$4mno$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #75521 |
On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 03:53:53 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> It used to be that a singularly unhelpful message like
> "It didn't work" only came from Users from Hell.
> Nowadays I'm seeing it in more and more software -
> and that goes in spades for web pages.
Programmers from hell:
try:
...
... do stuff
...
except Exception:
print("something went wrong")
sys.exit(0)
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-01 21:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <m0qdnfrmQ-ujRUD1nZ2dnZfqnPhj4p2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #75524 |
On 10/1/25 00:57, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 01 Oct 2025 03:53:53 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> It used to be that a singularly unhelpful message like
>> "It didn't work" only came from Users from Hell.
>> Nowadays I'm seeing it in more and more software -
>> and that goes in spades for web pages.
>
> Programmers from hell:
>
> try:
> ...
> ... do stuff
> ...
> except Exception:
> print("something went wrong")
> sys.exit(0)
Solves everything ! :-)
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-01 21:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <saScnWxrz9WGRUD1nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #75521 |
On 9/30/25 23:53, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2025-10-01, Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote: > >> Many error checks are added to make error situations managable to >> non-programming users of a program. When a programmer writes code >> for his own use, he can sometimes tolerate more cryptic raw error >> messages as they come from the runtime or consciously decide to >> take some risks when he himself would be their only victim. > > You mean more cyptic than "Something went wrong"? Still using Winders ? :-) > It used to be that a singularly unhelpful message like > "It didn't work" only came from Users from Hell. > Nowadays I'm seeing it in more and more software - > and that goes in spades for web pages. Most of my code, even small apps, do keep an error log. Typically it's just several commma-sep values representing various points in the pgm or component functions where things can go wrong. I know what they mean. Joe Average would need a lot more exposition.
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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-10 18:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn10eihsl.20cqd.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> |
| In reply to | #75521 |
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote at 03:53 this Wednesday (GMT): > On 2025-10-01, Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote: > >> Many error checks are added to make error situations managable to >> non-programming users of a program. When a programmer writes code >> for his own use, he can sometimes tolerate more cryptic raw error >> messages as they come from the runtime or consciously decide to >> take some risks when he himself would be their only victim. > > You mean more cyptic than "Something went wrong"? > > It used to be that a singularly unhelpful message like > "It didn't work" only came from Users from Hell. > Nowadays I'm seeing it in more and more software - > and that goes in spades for web pages. I half believe they do that to keep people from fixing things themselves and instead go and contact a support agent (that costs money). -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-11 02:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <g-ecnYWNGMaeYXT1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #75906 |
On 10/10/25 14:00, candycanearter07 wrote: > Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote at 03:53 this Wednesday (GMT): >> On 2025-10-01, Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote: >> >>> Many error checks are added to make error situations managable to >>> non-programming users of a program. When a programmer writes code >>> for his own use, he can sometimes tolerate more cryptic raw error >>> messages as they come from the runtime or consciously decide to >>> take some risks when he himself would be their only victim. >> >> You mean more cyptic than "Something went wrong"? >> >> It used to be that a singularly unhelpful message like >> "It didn't work" only came from Users from Hell. >> Nowadays I'm seeing it in more and more software - >> and that goes in spades for web pages. > > > I half believe they do that to keep people from fixing things themselves > and instead go and contact a support agent (that costs money). "When in question, when in doubt, follow the MONEY and you'll find out"' - Me, like 20+ years ago
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-11 11:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10cd9r4$ma62$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #75932 |
On 11/10/2025 07:41, c186282 wrote:
> "When in question, when in doubt, follow
> the MONEY and you'll find out"'
Ah. a fellow cynic.
--
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that
the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."
- Bertrand Russell
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-11 19:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10ceboj$10h1p$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #75936 |
On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 11:00:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 11/10/2025 07:41, c186282 wrote: >> >> "When in question, when in doubt, follow the MONEY and you'll find >> out"' > > Ah. a fellow cynic. “Follow the money” ... “Cui bono?” ... great guides, I find, to deconstructing popular conspiracy theories in particular. But the conspiracy theorists don’t like it when I point out how many of their pet beliefs don’t add up when analyzed this way.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-11 22:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <W-WcnRFsBfRjj3b1nZ2dnZfqnPhj4p2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #75955 |
On 10/11/25 15:39, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 11:00:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 11/10/2025 07:41, c186282 wrote: >>> >>> "When in question, when in doubt, follow the MONEY and you'll find >>> out"' >> >> Ah. a fellow cynic. > > “Follow the money” ... “Cui bono?” ... great guides, I find, to > deconstructing popular conspiracy theories in particular. > > But the conspiracy theorists don’t like it when I point out how many of > their pet beliefs don’t add up when analyzed this way. THIS one DOES.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-12 12:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10cg28i$1dscj$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #75978 |
On 12/10/2025 03:31, c186282 wrote: > On 10/11/25 15:39, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 11:00:04 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 11/10/2025 07:41, c186282 wrote: >>>> >>>> "When in question, when in doubt, follow the MONEY and you'll find >>>> out"' >>> >>> Ah. a fellow cynic. >> >> “Follow the money” ... “Cui bono?” ... great guides, I find, to >> deconstructing popular conspiracy theories in particular. >> >> But the conspiracy theorists don’t like it when I point out how many of >> their pet beliefs don’t add up when analyzed this way. > > THIS one DOES. > Which is why its not a 'conspiracy theory' in the normal sense. I have met with and worked with people whose duplicity, and collaboration to deceive their customers, the stock market and indeed the Law, is simply astonishing to a normal human being brought up in a broadly moral sort of way. Some like money, others like power. Some want political power. Others want fame. The overriding characteristic is that they all want more than can be got by honesty hard work and intelligence. So they cheat. -- There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent renewable energy.
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