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The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?

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  The Leap Second is Dead.  How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-16 15:45 +0000
    Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-16 16:56 +0100
      Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-16 17:08 +0000
    Re: The Leap Second is Dead.  How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-16 19:13 +0000
    Re: The Leap Second is Dead.  How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-17 13:29 +0000
      Re: The Leap Second is Dead.  How Will GNU/Linux Cope? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-17 13:51 +0000
      Re: The Leap Second is Dead.  How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-17 14:19 +0000
        Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 19:37 +0200
          Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 11:25 +0100

#93881 — The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?

The global network engineers, even with their cherished AI gods,
cannot build a system that handles leap seconds.

To save their sorry asses, the leap second will die on May 20,
2027:

<https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-vote-to-end-leap-seconds-redefining-how-the-world-keeps-time/>


GNU/Linux has the option of including leap seconds in its
time reckoning.  But going forward there will be a block of
years where leap seconds are valid while being absent for
other years.  The timzone-data folks will be having more
headaches and things will be more compounded with the
abolition of standard time in the USA.

<https://www.iana.org/time-zones>

Personally, I view the end of leap seconds, and US standard
time, as being quite stupid, but I am in the minority.

The idiots always rule.

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#93884 — Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?

Leroy H wrote:

> the leap second will die on May 20, 2027:
I seem to remember a proposal for "blending" the leap second over the 
course of 24h ... I bet the high-frequency traders would love that.

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#93892 — Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?

On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 16:56:25 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

> Leroy H wrote:
> 
>> the leap second will die on May 20, 2027:
> I seem to remember a proposal for "blending" the leap second over the 
> course of 24h ... I bet the high-frequency traders would love that.
>

That must be the Google leap smear:

<https://developers.google.com/time/smear>

I believe that the smear method was proposed for the Linux kernel
but was never implemented.

<https://lwn.net/Articles/648313/>

GNU Libc handles leap seconds by having two identical time stamps
for the seconds that bracket the leap.

For a desktop workstation leap seconds are not a problem.

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#93910

Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> wrote:
|-------------------------|
|"The idiots always rule."|
|-------------------------|

Possibly.
(S. HTTP://Gloucester.Insomnia247.NL/ fuer Kontaktdaten!)

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#94024

Le 16-10-2026, Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> a écrit :
> The global network engineers, even with their cherished AI gods,
> cannot build a system that handles leap seconds.

They can. They did. But they then realized, because they are smarter
than you, that it was a mistake. So unlike you who can only dive dipper
into your mistakes, they take a step back to move in the right
direction.

Being a technical possibility doesn't mean it's a good possibility. They
know why they stepped back. You don't because you can't understand
anything, you can't	 do anything, you can only complain.

> Personally, I view the end of leap seconds, and US standard
> time, as being quite stupid, but I am in the minority.

It's a good thing that you are a minority far away from the guys who
decide. You have no idea of what it takes to maintain huge servers. So
it's a good thing you have no claim in saying if it's worth maintaining
the leap second against its costs. Because your only answer would be
based on dark age knowledge without realizing that things have changed
since then.

> The idiots always rule.

One is always someone's idiot. Being your idiot is something they should
be proud of.

As you are the stupidest guy living on earth which still managed to
avoid winning a Darwin award, your only answer proves they were right to
do it.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#94026

In article <6ad3783b$0$7098$426a34cc@news.free.fr>,
Stphane CARPENTIER  <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>Le 16-10-2026, Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> a crit:
>> The global network engineers, even with their cherished AI gods,
>> cannot build a system that handles leap seconds.
>
>They can. They did. But they then realized, because they are smarter

Lighten up, Francis!

>Being a technical possibility doesn't mean it's a good possibility. They
>know why they stepped back. You don't because you can't understand
>anything, you can't	 do anything, you can only complain.

Lighten up, Francis!

>> Personally, I view the end of leap seconds, and US standard
>> time, as being quite stupid, but I am in the minority.
>
>It's a good thing that you are a minority far away from the guys who
>decide. You have no idea of what it takes to maintain huge servers. So

Lighten up, Francis!

>As you are the stupidest guy living on earth which still managed to
>avoid winning a Darwin award, your only answer proves they were right to

Lighten up, Francis!

-- 
Ted Cruz sounds like every straight man's first wife.

Ted Cruz is such a closet case his first name should have been Tom.

Show some respect!  Someday, Ted will have a promising career selling reverse mortgages.

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#94031

On 17 Oct 2026 13:29:31 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

> Le 16-10-2026, Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> a écrit :
>> The global network engineers, even with their cherished AI gods,
>> cannot build a system that handles leap seconds.
> 
> They can. They did. But they then realized, because they are smarter
> than you, that it was a mistake.
>

Ha, ha, ha!  "They can. They did. But they then realized... that it was
a mistake."  This statement is a just a roundabout way of saying "they
cannot."

Well, I already said it.  They cannot.


> 
> Being a technical possibility doesn't mean it's a good possibility.
>

It's is a terrible decision.  They are literally sacrificing the synchrony
of astronomical time (i.e. civil time based on the earth's rotation) with
TAI or International Atomic Time, and solely for the benefit of these stupid
network engineers.

Time will be out of sync just so Amazon can keep selling its junk without
interruption.

This, by the way, was done by the French, who believe that they possess
a divine right to govern global metrology.  The BIPM (International Bureau
of Weights and Measures), the institution that coordinates global time,
is located in France.

It was the French that gave the world the metric system (or SI) which is
perhaps fit for the sterile laboratory but which has no place in daily
life.  Indeed, both the USA and GB resist the SI units in that most civil
measurements are still reported in pounds, feet, Fahrenheit, etc.

The French even attempted to impose a metric time, based on decadal units
rather than the traditional sexagesimal units.  Fortunately the French
did not succeed:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_time>


The French, with their Gallic noses, can go and fuck themselves.

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#94041 — Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?

On 2026-10-17 16:19, Leroy H wrote:
> It was the French that gave the world the metric system (or SI) which is
> perhaps fit for the sterile laboratory but which has no place in daily
> life.  Indeed, both the USA and GB resist the SI units in that most civil
> measurements are still reported in pounds, feet, Fahrenheit, etc.

Lighten up, the SI is used in the entire world. Just some recalcitrant 
people remain in their old ways.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#94132 — Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?

On 17/10/2026 18:37, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-10-17 16:19, Leroy H wrote:
>> It was the French that gave the world the metric system (or SI) which is
>> perhaps fit for the sterile laboratory but which has no place in daily
>> life.  Indeed, both the USA and GB resist the SI units in that most civil
>> measurements are still reported in pounds, feet, Fahrenheit, etc.
> 
> Lighten up, the SI is used in the entire world. Just some recalcitrant 
> people remain in their old ways.
> 
UK does not use pounds feet or fahrenheit

Yes, many people still understand what they are. But we are all kg, 
metres and celsius now

Only miles remain  dominant over km. And people still think of 'a pint 
of beer' rather than 473ml. Even if it turns out to be 500ml


International aviation measures altitude in feet and speed in knots but 
fuel is now in kg

The thing is. it simply does not matter AF what you use: if you do it 
regularly you know a 10mm socket is ~3/8". That an 1/8" is 3.2mm, or 
that an oz is ±28g

It's just a slight twist on language. The great thing is that no one is 
- in the UK - making anything compulsory any more.

Shops must only display in kg but they are free to use lb, pints. quarts 
or whatever




-- 
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, 
that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

Jonathan Swift.

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