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Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug

Started by"anonymous" <anonymous@rip.ax.lt>
First post2019-06-16 07:53 -0500
Last post2019-06-25 15:11 +0200
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  Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "anonymous" <anonymous@rip.ax.lt> - 2019-06-16 07:53 -0500
    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Anonymous" <nobody@mixmin.net> - 2019-06-16 07:56 -0500
    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Fenris <fenris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-16 15:53 +0200
      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-16 15:35 +0100
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-06-16 15:30 +0000
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-16 16:53 -0400
      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "School of Agriculture" <ag@hick.edu> - 2019-06-17 14:35 -0500
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-17 20:42 +0100
          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-17 17:31 -0400
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-18 14:13 +0100
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-06-17 20:30 +0000
          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-17 23:11 +0200
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-17 17:36 -0400
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-17 18:27 -0400
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-18 08:45 +0200
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-06-18 23:58 +0000
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-18 21:42 -0400
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-06-19 18:23 +0000
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 23:06 +0200
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug rlhamil@bigapple.pri (Richard L. Hamilton) - 2019-06-22 01:00 +0000
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-19 07:49 +0100
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 10:12 +0200
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-17 20:30 +0000
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Anonymous" <nobody@mixmin.net> - 2019-06-18 07:04 -0500
          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Fenris <fenris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-18 14:18 +0200
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-18 14:17 +0100
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-06-18 08:52 -0500
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-06-20 05:57 +0000
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-06-20 07:05 -0500
                    Using 'sed' to delete a line from a file (Was: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-20 12:32 +0000
                      Re: Using 'sed' to delete a line from a file (Was: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug) Shehu Dikko <unreachable@destination.invalid> - 2019-06-20 17:30 +0100
                      Re: Using 'sed' to delete a line from a file (Was: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug) Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-20 12:17 -0600
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Anonymous" <anon@anon.com> - 2019-06-20 08:31 -0500
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Anonymous" <anon@anon.com> - 2019-06-20 08:33 -0500
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Anonymous" <anon@anon.com> - 2019-06-20 08:42 -0500
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2019-06-18 20:12 +0000
    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-06-16 11:57 -0500
      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-06-16 21:28 +0200
        How come we're not talking about (Was: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-16 20:12 +0000
          Re: How come we're not talking about (Was: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug) Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-16 22:52 +0200
          Re: How come we're not talking about (Was: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug) "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-06-17 06:52 +0200
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-16 22:47 +0200
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-06-21 13:24 -0500
    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-16 11:12 -0600
    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2019-06-16 13:26 -0700
      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-06-16 13:34 -0700
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-16 22:58 +0200
          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 10:20 +0200
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-19 10:55 +0200
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 12:37 +0200
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-19 13:13 +0200
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 14:31 +0200
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2019-07-20 19:43 -0400
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-19 09:36 -0600
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 14:36 +0200
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2019-07-20 19:37 -0400
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2019-06-19 21:32 +0300
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-19 20:47 +0200
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 21:01 +0200
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-19 20:23 +0100
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 22:53 +0200
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 23:09 +0000
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-20 05:21 +0200
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-20 04:16 +0000
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-20 06:21 +0200
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 14:38 +0200
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-20 13:30 +0000
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 19:21 +0200
                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-20 18:39 +0000
                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 22:52 +0200
                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-20 23:48 +0000
                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 13:01 +0200
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-21 12:30 +0000
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 14:51 +0200
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-21 13:43 +0000
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-23 12:56 +0200
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-21 08:55 -0500
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 19:01 +0200
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-21 13:33 +0000
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-21 13:39 +0000
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-21 10:14 -0500
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 19:09 +0200
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-21 13:39 -0400
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-21 11:18 -0400
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 19:10 +0200
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-21 19:57 +0000
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 23:09 +0200
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-21 08:17 +0100
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 13:03 +0200
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 19:51 +0000
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 22:45 +0200
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2019-07-20 19:46 -0400
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 21:00 +0200
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-19 20:20 +0100
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 14:43 +0200
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-19 16:44 -0400
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 22:57 +0200
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2019-06-19 16:17 -0500
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-19 17:43 -0400
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 00:58 +0200
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-06-20 02:15 +0000
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-19 17:40 -0400
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-19 23:53 +0200
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2019-07-20 19:31 -0400
    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Freenet" <pieer@free.fr> - 2019-06-16 20:44 -0500
      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-06-17 12:41 +0000
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-17 17:30 -0400
          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-17 23:22 +0000
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-18 16:07 -0400
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 10:28 +0200
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-06-19 10:30 +0000
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 12:51 +0200
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-06-19 11:30 +0000
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 21:03 +0200
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 12:30 +0000
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-06-19 18:23 +0000
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-19 20:42 +0200
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 19:49 +0000
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-19 21:56 +0200
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 20:38 +0000
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-20 00:04 +0200
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2019-06-20 11:34 +0300
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 23:15 +0200
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 21:11 +0200
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2019-06-19 19:31 +0000
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 23:18 +0200
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2019-06-21 13:13 +0000
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 16:57 +0200
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2019-06-23 09:46 +0000
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 20:10 +0000
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-19 22:18 +0200
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 20:33 +0000
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 23:05 +0200
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 23:30 +0000
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-19 21:43 -0600
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-20 05:50 +0200
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-06-20 04:23 +0000
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 23:20 +0200
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2019-06-20 04:49 +0000
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-20 07:05 +0200
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2019-06-20 08:41 +0000
                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-20 12:21 +0200
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-19 21:45 -0400
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-20 03:23 +0000
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-19 21:45 -0600
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-30 09:54 -0400
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-30 20:06 +0200
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-19 11:55 +0000
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-22 13:20 +0000
          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-18 03:22 +0200
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Sidney_Kotic <kant@have.it> - 2019-06-17 18:25 -0800
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-18 08:30 +0200
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-18 11:29 +0200
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-18 16:15 -0400
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-18 20:28 +0000
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-18 17:27 -0400
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 00:04 +0000
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-18 22:36 -0400
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 10:06 +0200
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-19 16:15 -0400
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 14:51 +0200
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-20 15:13 +0200
                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 19:14 +0200
                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-20 12:21 -0600
                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-06-21 00:56 +0000
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-20 16:07 -0400
                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-20 14:24 -0600
                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-20 16:51 -0400
                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 23:02 +0200
                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-20 15:14 -0600
                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 13:41 +0200
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-06-21 09:30 -0500
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 19:14 +0200
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-21 12:34 -0600
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 23:53 +0200
                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 22:55 +0200
                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-20 15:17 -0600
                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 14:03 +0200
                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-21 22:59 -0600
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 07:51 -0500
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-22 16:53 -0600
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 18:56 -0500
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-22 20:09 -0600
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 22:48 -0500
                                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-22 22:51 -0600
                                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-23 13:19 +0200
                                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-23 07:33 -0500
                                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-23 15:07 +0100
                                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 02:09 +0200
                                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-23 22:22 -0500
                                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 11:41 +0200
                                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-24 07:24 -0500
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-23 13:14 +0200
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-23 11:50 -0600
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 02:41 +0200
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-30 15:08 -0600
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-30 21:14 +0000
                                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-30 15:22 -0600
                                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-30 21:47 +0000
                                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-07-01 08:10 +0000
                                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-07-01 10:05 +0100
                                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-01 12:54 +0200
                                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-07-01 12:08 +0100
                                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-07-01 11:54 +0000
                                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-07-01 12:30 -0400
                                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-07-01 17:11 -0600
                                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-07-01 17:06 -0600
                                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-07-02 09:35 +0000
                                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-07-02 09:20 -0600
                                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-02 14:28 +0200
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-07-01 07:51 +0000
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-01 12:46 +0200
                                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-01 09:50 -0500
                                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-01 17:31 +0200
                                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-01 12:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-02 14:17 +0200
                                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-02 10:22 -0500
                                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-02 19:10 +0200
                                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-02 19:16 +0200
                                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-07-02 12:27 -0600
                                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-02 14:33 -0500
                                                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-03 13:34 +0200
                                                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-03 09:06 -0500
                                                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-07-04 03:14 +0100
                                                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug - spam on mail "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-04 15:26 +0200
                                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-07-01 17:16 -0600
                                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-02 14:20 +0200
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-23 16:36 -0400
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 03:37 +0200
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-24 13:50 -0400
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 23:14 +0200
                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-21 16:01 -0400
                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 23:57 +0200
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-21 17:35 -0500
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-06-21 22:04 -0500
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-22 12:57 -0400
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-06-21 21:58 -0500
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 07:32 -0500
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-21 23:10 -0600
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-22 08:21 +0100
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-22 13:01 -0400
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-22 16:55 -0600
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 18:47 -0500
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-22 20:15 -0600
                                          Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-23 13:52 +0200
                                            Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-23 10:02 -0500
                                              Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 02:17 +0200
                                                Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-23 22:30 -0500
                                            Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-23 11:56 -0600
                                              Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 03:23 +0200
                                                Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-06-24 09:07 +0000
                                                  Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 11:52 +0200
                                                    Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-24 14:14 -0400
                                                      Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 23:21 +0200
                                                Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-30 15:38 -0600
                                            Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-30 15:31 -0600
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-30 09:17 -0400
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-30 15:41 -0600
                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-21 23:02 -0600
                                        Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-23 14:02 +0200
                                          Re: Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-06-24 09:11 +0000
                                            Re: Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 11:53 +0200
                                          Re: Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2019-06-25 07:37 +0200
                                            Re: Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-25 16:49 +0200
                                              Re: Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-25 19:34 +0100
                                            Re: Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-06-25 17:53 +0000
                                            Re: Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-30 09:36 -0400
                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-30 08:52 -0400
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-30 08:25 -0400
                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-30 20:01 +0200
                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-30 20:57 +0100
                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-30 15:47 -0600
                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2019-06-30 16:13 -0400
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 00:43 +0200
    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2019-06-25 15:11 +0200

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#27397

FromGrant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Date2019-06-22 16:53 -0600
Message-ID<qembir$16g$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
In reply to#27389
On 6/22/19 6:51 AM, John Hasler wrote:
> There is UUCP over TCP/IP.

Yep.

I've not actually seen people use it.  But I'm aware that it exists.

I think I've also heard about people using things like stunnel to do 
UUCP over TLS over TCP/IP

I have seen people use UUCP over SSH (over TCP/IP).

> You can and many of us still do.  Don't rely on your ISP, though. 
> Pay a small amount of money to somebody such as Newsguy who makes a 
> business of providing such service.

Or pay a small amount for a VPS and run your own smart host.  ;-)

> Not a problem.  Newsguy deals with all that.  I just configure Exim 
> to use Newsguy as a smarthost (it's a choice in the configuration 
> dialogue at install time) and use Fetchmail to get my incoming mail 
> from Newsguy via POP every 5 minutes.  Gandi redirects mail to my 
> domains to Newsguy.  I get all the benefits of running my own mail 
> server (I once did that) without any of the hassles.

Fair.

I don't like the idea of POPing email, but I suspect there are other 
options, including Newsguy relaying SMTP to you.



-- 
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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#27400

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2019-06-22 18:56 -0500
Message-ID<87v9wxp41n.fsf@dhh.gt.org>
In reply to#27397
I wrote:
> Don't rely on your ISP, though. Pay a small amount of money to
> somebody such as Newsguy who makes a business of providing such
> service.

Grant writes:
> Or pay a small amount for a VPS and run your own smart host.

I've administered an Internet-facing mail server.  I'd rather pay
Newsguy to do that (cheaper than a VPS, too).

> I don't like the idea of POPing email...

Why?

> ...but I suspect there are other options, including Newsguy relaying
> SMTP to you.

In today's environment that would be the only practical way for me to
run my own mail server but again, I'd rather pay Newsguy to do that.

-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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#27401

FromGrant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Date2019-06-22 20:09 -0600
Message-ID<qemn22$j9h$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
In reply to#27400
On 6/22/19 5:56 PM, John Hasler wrote:
> I've administered an Internet-facing mail server.  I'd rather pay 
> Newsguy to do that (cheaper than a VPS, too).

Fair enough.

> Why?

I believe in leveraging things in the SMTP protocol, e.g. ORCPT, DSN, 
DELIVERBY.  None of those things are supported all the way to your 
server when the SMTP delivery stops at the upstream server and you POP 
things from the mailbox(es).

There's also the issue(s) around supporting multiple email addresses. 
SMTP makes it trivial to pass the different addresses down to your 
machine, even if you are only BCCed.  POP will very either mix multiple 
email addressees into one mailbox, where they need to be separated back 
out, or you need to POP multiple mailboxes.

I think that SMTP (or even UUCP) is cleaner than that.  Especially if 
you use ETRN.  The upstream server can be told to try to deliver to your 
server and queue the email while your server's offline.  When you are 
online, issue an ETRN and the server will try to deliver to you again 
and succeed.

> In today's environment that would be the only practical way for me 
> to run my own mail server but again, I'd rather pay Newsguy to do that.

To each his / her own.



-- 
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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#27403

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2019-06-22 22:48 -0500
Message-ID<87mui9otbj.fsf@dhh.gt.org>
In reply to#27401
Grant writes:
> There's also the issue(s) around supporting multiple email
> addresses. SMTP makes it trivial to pass the different addresses down
> to your machine, even if you are only BCCed.  POP will very either mix
> multiple email addressees into one mailbox, where they need to be
> separated back out, or you need to POP multiple mailboxes.

Newsguy gives me lots of mailboxes and Fetchmail has no problem dealing
with them.  Mailagent sorts mail for local delivery by Exim even when
different addresses get mixed in one box.

> The upstream server can be told to try to deliver to your server and
> queue the email while your server's offline.  When you are online,
> issue an ETRN and the server will try to deliver to you again and
> succeed.

That comes for free with POP. If I don't fetch my mail it just sits
there.  I could even read it via Webmail if necessary or fetch it to a
different machine at a different site.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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#27404

FromGrant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Date2019-06-22 22:51 -0600
Message-ID<qen0i2$roo$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
In reply to#27403
On 6/22/19 9:48 PM, John Hasler wrote:
> Newsguy gives me lots of mailboxes and Fetchmail has no problem dealing 
> with them.  Mailagent sorts mail for local delivery by Exim even when 
> different addresses get mixed in one box.

There are always a lot of different things that can be done.  But not 
all of them achieve the same thing or do so by the same method.

It sounds like you are happy with what you are doing.  Good for you.

I would not be happy using POP.

> That comes for free with POP. If I don't fetch my mail it just sits 
> there.  I could even read it via Webmail if necessary or fetch it to 
> a different machine at a different site.

2+2=4 ≠ 2*2=4
+ ≠ *
Different methods are used for different things.  Even if they both get 
email into your mailbox.



-- 
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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#27408

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2019-06-23 13:19 +0200
Message-ID<gn95hgF8nplU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#27404
On 23/06/2019 06.51, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 6/22/19 9:48 PM, John Hasler wrote:
>> Newsguy gives me lots of mailboxes and Fetchmail has no problem
>> dealing with them.  Mailagent sorts mail for local delivery by Exim
>> even when different addresses get mixed in one box.
> 
> There are always a lot of different things that can be done.  But not
> all of them achieve the same thing or do so by the same method.
> 
> It sounds like you are happy with what you are doing.  Good for you.
> 
> I would not be happy using POP.

I no longer use POP, only IMAP. Much easier with multiple machines.
And I also use fetchmail.

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#27411

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2019-06-23 07:33 -0500
Message-ID<87fto0pjl1.fsf@dhh.gt.org>
In reply to#27408
Carlos writes:
> I no longer use POP, only IMAP. Much easier with multiple machines.
> And I also use fetchmail.

I have IMAP available but it has no advantages for me.  I do not want my
mail to remain on Newsguy's server any longer than necessary.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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#27412

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2019-06-23 15:07 +0100
Message-ID<qeo13e$548$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#27411
On 23/06/2019 13:33, John Hasler wrote:
> Carlos writes:
>> I no longer use POP, only IMAP. Much easier with multiple machines.
>> And I also use fetchmail.
> 
> I have IMAP available but it has no advantages for me.  I do not want my
> mail to remain on Newsguy's server any longer than necessary.
> 
Same here. I do not want it to reamin on MY virtual server


-- 
"Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social 
conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the 
windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.) "

Alan Sokal

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#27426

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2019-06-24 02:09 +0200
Message-ID<9ug5ufxaom.ln2@minas-tirith.valinor>
In reply to#27411
On 23/06/2019 14.33, John Hasler wrote:
> Carlos writes:
>> I no longer use POP, only IMAP. Much easier with multiple machines.
>> And I also use fetchmail.
> 
> I have IMAP available but it has no advantages for me.  I do not want my
> mail to remain on Newsguy's server any longer than necessary.

Doesn't have to, if you so wish. Fetchmail will retrieve and delete it
instantly from the server, as always.

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#27427

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2019-06-23 22:22 -0500
Message-ID<87wohboefv.fsf@dhh.gt.org>
In reply to#27426
Carlos writes:
> I no longer use POP, only IMAP. Much easier with multiple machines.
> And I also use fetchmail.

I wrote:
> I have IMAP available but it has no advantages for me.  I do not want my
> mail to remain on Newsguy's server any longer than necessary.

Carlos writes:
> Doesn't have to, if you so wish. Fetchmail will retrieve and delete it
> instantly from the server, as always.

Sure but for my purposes IMAP does nothing POP doesn't do.  If Newsguy
ever deprecates POP I'll switch to IMAP.  It's a trivial change.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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#27431

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2019-06-24 11:41 +0200
Message-ID<oei6ufxhvu.ln2@minas-tirith.valinor>
In reply to#27427
On 24/06/2019 05.22, John Hasler wrote:
> Carlos writes:
>> I no longer use POP, only IMAP. Much easier with multiple machines.
>> And I also use fetchmail.
> 
> I wrote:
>> I have IMAP available but it has no advantages for me.  I do not want my
>> mail to remain on Newsguy's server any longer than necessary.
> 
> Carlos writes:
>> Doesn't have to, if you so wish. Fetchmail will retrieve and delete it
>> instantly from the server, as always.
> 
> Sure but for my purposes IMAP does nothing POP doesn't do.  If Newsguy
> ever deprecates POP I'll switch to IMAP.  It's a trivial change.

If you read the fetchmail manual, you will find they favour imap over
pop for a number of features and problems it solves - in the fetchmail
use case, which is typically download and remove from server.

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#27434

FromJohn Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com>
Date2019-06-24 07:24 -0500
Message-ID<87o92nnpcg.fsf@dhh.gt.org>
In reply to#27431
Carlos writes:
> If you read the fetchmail manual, you will find they favour imap over
> pop for a number of features and problems it solves - in the fetchmail
> use case, which is typically download and remove from server.

None that matter to me.  My present setup works fine.  If anything ever
comes up I'll change.  For now, it ain't broke.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhasler@newsguy.com
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

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#27407

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2019-06-23 13:14 +0200
Message-ID<gn959gF8nplU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#27384
On 22/06/2019 06.59, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 6/21/19 6:03 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> You are right. There was (is) some software that does fidonet over
>> TCP, but it is rather "recent". This century or end of the XX. Let me
>> see, I must have it on this computer... Could be binkd for hpt. Long
>> time since last I used it. Confirm, it is binkd.
> 
> I know of binkd, but I've never used it.
> 
>> It still lives:
> 
> :-)
> 
>> Some of the links are dead, like the user guide.
> 
> That happens.
> 
> I suspect that FidoNet technology has fared better than some other old
> networking technologies.  Seeing as how there is a TCP/IP interface for it.

Las time I looked, traffic was very low, many Spanish groups had no
messages for days, some none for months. International groups in English
fared better. I don't know about the Russians.



>> Mail and news, standard tcp/ip, not uucp on my time. I used fetchmail,
>> and initially sendmail.  …  For news, leafnode.
> 
> Nice.  So you were using standard internet protocols between your
> client(s) and a local server.  I like it.  :-)
> 
>> … Most places accepted directly sent mail, till antispam measures
>> killed it and we had to use the ISPs. …
> 
> Ya.  I suspect you could have made it work by smart hosting through a
> well established email server, possibly your ISP.

One nuance with all Spain providers I know, is that they do not allow
sending of email with a "from" header that is not theirs. Thus, as I
have different email accounts, I could not use a single smarthost. So
for a while I was stuck. First I tried to mail directly, and if it
bounced, I used Thunderbird to send via the provider of that account.

Then postfix added a feature that allows automatic selection of the
relayhost for each mail based on the "from" header, coupled with auth
(login/pass) for each account. That was the final solution that I'm
using till now.

Ah, with a difference compared to other countries: I can send using the
standard SMTP port, which is blocked by providers on USA or Canada, for
instance. When I visited, I had to reconfigure to use the Delivery port
instead.

And that posed another problem, because my main local Spain provider
doesn't listen on the Deliver port and insists on the SMTP port - which
was blocked by Bell. So I could not send some mail while I was there...

> 
> Relatively recent anti-spam techniques have made it harder, SPF, DKIM,
> DMARC, MTA-STS.
> 
> But still possible.

Yes, maybe, but I have not bothered. :-)


>> Most Fidonet development switched to Russia, for some reason they were
>> interested. I lost contact when the the machine that powered the node I
>> used died. The sysop was an OS/2 fan, and said he could not manage to do
>> it in Linux, too difficult for him. Another sysop offered to give us
>> access, but I did not manage to configure it. He was using a
>> fidonet-nntp gateway, but with some incomplete software; needed auth
>> that failed with both Thunderbird and leafnode.
> 
> I've heard that the Russians were interested in FidoNet and / or other
> FTNs from multiple sources.  I've had one source tell me that's not the
> case.  Though he was thinking I was talking about dial-up.  I think a
> fair bit of FTN is done over TCP/IP now, possibly via anonymizing
> technologies like Tor (hidden services) / I2P.

I suspect that some used Fidonet technology with direct phone calls, and
outside of the Fidonet network, for mail outside of Internet scooping.


>> That's right, I used the time for a little browsing. I don't remember
>> if I automated the hanging at some point. That was long ago...
> 
> Fair enough.
> 
>> There was software that would establish a call when needed, and kill
>> it on no network activity, but that could be prohibitive here, because
>> call establishment was charged. And of course, I had to tell/ask my
>> roommates that I was going to connect.
> 
> ACK
> 
> I find it interesting to hear from people that lived through it, what
> they did, and why they did it.  Thank you.  :-)

Welcome :-)

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#27417

FromGrant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Date2019-06-23 11:50 -0600
Message-ID<qeoe70$58h$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
In reply to#27407
On 6/23/19 5:14 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Las time I looked, traffic was very low, many Spanish groups had 
> no messages for days, some none for months. International groups in 
> English fared better. I don't know about the Russians.

ACK

> One nuance with all Spain providers I know, is that they do not allow 
> sending of email with a "from" header that is not theirs.

Did they only check if the From: header (and hopefully the SMTP envelope 
too) was in their domain(s)?  Or did they also check to see if the From: 
header … was associated with the account you used to authenticate to 
their server(s)?  (I'm assuming that you do authenticate to their server(s))

> Thus, as I have different email accounts, I could not use a single 
> smarthost. So for a while I was stuck. First I tried to mail directly, 
> and if it bounced, I used Thunderbird to send via the provider of 
> that account.

That's annoying.

> Then postfix added a feature that allows automatic selection of the 
> relayhost for each mail based on the "from" header, coupled with auth 
> (login/pass) for each account. That was the final solution that I'm 
> using till now.

ACK

> Ah, with a difference compared to other countries: I can send using 
> the standard SMTP port, which is blocked by providers on USA or Canada, 
> for instance. When I visited, I had to reconfigure to use the Delivery 
> port instead.

Ya.  It's my understanding that a current best practice is for ISPs to 
filter traffic from residential IP space to TCP port 25.  I /thought/ 
that this was becoming common around the world.

> And that posed another problem, because my main local Spain provider 
> doesn't listen on the Deliver port and insists on the SMTP port - which 
> was blocked by Bell. So I could not send some mail while I was there...

Oops!

> Yes, maybe, but I have not bothered. :-)
> 
> I suspect that some used Fidonet technology with direct phone calls, 
> and outside of the Fidonet network, for mail outside of Internet 
> scooping.

That jives with what I've heard elsewhere.

> Welcome :-)

:-)



-- 
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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#27422

From"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2019-06-24 02:41 +0200
Message-ID<fqi5ufxmkn.ln2@minas-tirith.valinor>
In reply to#27417
On 23/06/2019 19.50, Grant Taylor wrote:
> On 6/23/19 5:14 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> Las time I looked, traffic was very low, many Spanish groups had no
>> messages for days, some none for months. International groups in
>> English fared better. I don't know about the Russians.
> 
> ACK
> 
>> One nuance with all Spain providers I know, is that they do not allow
>> sending of email with a "from" header that is not theirs.
> 
> Did they only check if the From: header (and hopefully the SMTP envelope
> too) was in their domain(s)? 

I don't know, I've no way to use a different SMTP envelope. I know it is
possible, but I've never done it.

> Or did they also check to see if the From:
> header … was associated with the account you used to authenticate to
> their server(s)?  (I'm assuming that you do authenticate to their
> server(s))

The login/password is associated with the "from". That is, if I have 4
accounts with the same provider (it is the case), each one has a
different login/pass.


>> Thus, as I have different email accounts, I could not use a single
>> smarthost. So for a while I was stuck. First I tried to mail directly,
>> and if it bounced, I used Thunderbird to send via the provider of that
>> account.
> 
> That's annoying.

I was, yes.


>> Then postfix added a feature that allows automatic selection of the
>> relayhost for each mail based on the "from" header, coupled with auth
>> (login/pass) for each account. That was the final solution that I'm
>> using till now.
> 
> ACK
> 
>> Ah, with a difference compared to other countries: I can send using
>> the standard SMTP port, which is blocked by providers on USA or
>> Canada, for instance. When I visited, I had to reconfigure to use the
>> Delivery port instead.
> 
> Ya.  It's my understanding that a current best practice is for ISPs to
> filter traffic from residential IP space to TCP port 25.  I /thought/
> that this was becoming common around the world.

No, here it is not filtered. It doesn't make much difference, both
methods can be secured. As the receivers will not accept a post sent
directly to their smtp port if you are not authorized to send to them
(either by auth or being an established server), there is no need to
filter it, which hinders honest people using servers. The policy is thus
"no filtering at all, we transmit everything".


>> And that posed another problem, because my main local Spain provider
>> doesn't listen on the Deliver port and insists on the SMTP port -
>> which was blocked by Bell. So I could not send some mail while I was
>> there...
> 
> Oops!

Yep. It was interesting, in a way.


-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#27483

FromGrant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Date2019-06-30 15:08 -0600
Message-ID<qfb8dc$6ua$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
In reply to#27422
On 6/23/19 6:41 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> I don't know, I've no way to use a different SMTP envelope. I know 
> it is possible, but I've never done it.

ACK

Come to think of it, I'm not sure how to do it in Thunderbird either. 
I'd likely do something in the shell or on the server if I wanted to do 
something like that.

There's almost always no need for the MUA to send with different From: 
header and envelope from address.

> The login/password is associated with the "from". That is, if I have 
> 4 accounts with the same provider (it is the case), each one has a 
> different login/pass.

ACK

> I was, yes.
> 
> No, here it is not filtered. It doesn't make much difference, both 
> methods can be secured. As the receivers will not accept a post sent 
> directly to their smtp port if you are not authorized to send to them 
> (either by auth or being an established server), there is no need to 
> filter it, which hinders honest people using servers.

Hum.

Am I correct in that servers in your corner of the Internet won't accept 
email from SMTP servers around the world unless the sending server is 
white listed or uses authentication?

That seems strange and antithetical to how SMTP is supposed to work; 
namely accepting email to a local address from anyone that wants to send it.

The common egress SMTP filtering here in the U.S.A. is a way that ISPs 
can help ensure that their user base doesn't send trash to the world. 
Good 'Net Neighbor type thing.

> The policy is thus "no filtering at all, we transmit everything".

That sounds like filtering of what makes it into / through the server.

Yet you have stated that the account name and email address needed to 
match.  (At least that's what I understood / took away.)  That seems 
like filtering to me.

> Yep. It was interesting, in a way.

:-)



-- 
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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#27484

FromMelzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>
Date2019-06-30 21:14 +0000
Message-ID<kD9SE.83477$_%7.4186@fx21.am4>
In reply to#27483
On 2019-06-30, Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
> On 6/23/19 6:41 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> I don't know, I've no way to use a different SMTP envelope. I know 
>> it is possible, but I've never done it.
>
> ACK
>
> Come to think of it, I'm not sure how to do it in Thunderbird either. 
> I'd likely do something in the shell or on the server if I wanted to do 
> something like that.
>
> There's almost always no need for the MUA to send with different From: 
> header and envelope from address.
>
>> The login/password is associated with the "from". That is, if I have 
>> 4 accounts with the same provider (it is the case), each one has a 
>> different login/pass.
>
> ACK
>
>> I was, yes.
>> 
>> No, here it is not filtered. It doesn't make much difference, both 
>> methods can be secured. As the receivers will not accept a post sent 
>> directly to their smtp port if you are not authorized to send to them 
>> (either by auth or being an established server), there is no need to 
>> filter it, which hinders honest people using servers.
>
> Hum.
>
> Am I correct in that servers in your corner of the Internet won't accept 
> email from SMTP servers around the world unless the sending server is 
> white listed or uses authentication?
>
> That seems strange and antithetical to how SMTP is supposed to work; 
> namely accepting email to a local address from anyone that wants to send it.

Usually relaying is disabled, server accepts addresses only on this
host. Also all dynamic ip addresses are blacklisted by default.

>
> The common egress SMTP filtering here in the U.S.A. is a way that ISPs 
> can help ensure that their user base doesn't send trash to the world. 
> Good 'Net Neighbor type thing.

You can send anywhere from your ISP smtp server or gmail or whatever,
but you have to have valid credentials.

>
>:-)
>
>
>


-- 
press any key to continue or any other to quit...
U ničemu ja ne uživam kao u svom statusu INVALIDA -- Zli Zec
Na divljem zapadu i nije bilo tako puno nasilja, upravo zato jer su svi 
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#27485

FromGrant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>
Date2019-06-30 15:22 -0600
Message-ID<qfb97i$h35$1@tncsrv09.home.tnetconsulting.net>
In reply to#27484
On 6/30/19 3:14 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> Usually relaying is disabled, server accepts addresses only on this 
> host.

That's Standard Operating Procedure to me.  It probably qualifies as 
best practice too.

The only common variance is allowing relay to specific domains when 
acting as a backup MX for them.

> Also all dynamic ip addresses are blacklisted by default.

I'd love to know how they detect /all/ dynamic IPs.

I've seen various RBLs that list known dynamic IPs.

I've seen filters to match naming patterns, frequently something along 
the lines of names containing 
<number><separator><number><separator><number><separator><number>.

But that doesn't account for /all/ dynamic IPs.  ;-)  Probably many to 
most of them.

> You can send anywhere from your ISP smtp server or gmail or whatever, 
> but you have to have valid credentials.

That's the idea anyway.

But as someone pointed out, they couldn't do that to their ISP when they 
were traveling abroad because where they were at was filtering the port 
used to connect to their ISP's mail server.



-- 
Grant. . . .
unix || die

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#27490

FromMelzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>
Date2019-06-30 21:47 +0000
Message-ID<E5aSE.188722$fw6.110573@fx29.am4>
In reply to#27485
On 2019-06-30, Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
> On 6/30/19 3:14 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> Usually relaying is disabled, server accepts addresses only on this 
>> host.
>
> That's Standard Operating Procedure to me.  It probably qualifies as 
> best practice too.
>
> The only common variance is allowing relay to specific domains when 
> acting as a backup MX for them.
>
>> Also all dynamic ip addresses are blacklisted by default.
>
> I'd love to know how they detect /all/ dynamic IPs.

They don't individually rather known ranges.

>
> I've seen various RBLs that list known dynamic IPs.
>
> I've seen filters to match naming patterns, frequently something along 
> the lines of names containing 
><number><separator><number><separator><number><separator><number>.
>
> But that doesn't account for /all/ dynamic IPs.  ;-)  Probably many to 
> most of them.

Well, they try.

>
>> You can send anywhere from your ISP smtp server or gmail or whatever, 
>> but you have to have valid credentials.
>
> That's the idea anyway.
>
> But as someone pointed out, they couldn't do that to their ISP when they 
> were traveling abroad because where they were at was filtering the port 
> used to connect to their ISP's mail server.
>
>
>


-- 
press any key to continue or any other to quit...
U ničemu ja ne uživam kao u svom statusu INVALIDA -- Zli Zec
Na divljem zapadu i nije bilo tako puno nasilja, upravo zato jer su svi 
bili naoruzani. -- Mladen Gogala

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#27494

FromJasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz>
Date2019-07-01 08:10 +0000
Message-ID<qfcf53$pbp$2@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org>
In reply to#27485
On 2019-06-30, Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
> On 6/30/19 3:14 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> Usually relaying is disabled, server accepts addresses only on this 
>> host.
>
> That's Standard Operating Procedure to me.  It probably qualifies as 
> best practice too.
>
> The only common variance is allowing relay to specific domains when 
> acting as a backup MX for them.
>
>> Also all dynamic ip addresses are blacklisted by default.
>
> I'd love to know how they detect /all/ dynamic IPs.
>
> I've seen various RBLs that list known dynamic IPs.

> But as someone pointed out, they couldn't do that to their ISP when they 
> were traveling abroad because where they were at was filtering the port 
> used to connect to their ISP's mail server.

I know a guy who built a business around that.  Most days I work for him.

OTOH few ISPs block outbound submission or SMTPS traffic, only port 25.
so it should be possible to submot from outside if they set up
authenticated submission


-- 
  When I tried casting out nines I made a hash of it.

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