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| First post | 2025-12-29 04:04 +0000 |
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Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 04:04 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 01:07 -0500
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 06:38 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-29 02:31 -0500
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-29 17:09 +0000
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-29 13:35 +0000
Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 07:33 -0700
Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-29 21:59 +0000
Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-29 15:40 -0800
Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 01:30 +0000
Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-30 08:57 -0800
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 12:51 -0500
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:00 +0000
Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 19:06 +0000
Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-30 09:38 +0100
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:11 +0000
Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-30 07:38 -0700
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 15:04 +0000
Innovation (was Re: naughty Python) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-30 21:40 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 22:02 +0000
Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-29 19:23 -0700
Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-30 03:53 +0000
OT: incompetence of companies (was: Re: naughty Python) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 10:03 +0000
Re: OT: incompetence of companies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:12 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 03:14 -0500
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-30 11:18 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-30 21:49 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 19:47 -0500
Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 01:01 +0000
Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 03:07 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:45 -0500
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:12 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:11 -0500
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:57 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:13 -0500
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:13 +0000
Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-31 18:55 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 14:21 -0500
Re: naughty Python Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-31 22:34 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 22:32 -0500
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:35 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 22:07 -0500
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:49 +0000
Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-01 07:28 -0700
Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-01 15:55 +0100
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:40 -0500
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:29 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:18 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 22:22 +0100
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:31 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:12 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 07:56 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2026-01-04 09:22 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:16 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 21:00 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:11 +0100
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 10:49 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 19:57 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:37 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 04:10 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 23:21 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:28 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:04 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 14:22 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 20:47 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 02:00 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 22:37 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 08:56 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2026-01-08 09:57 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 08:57 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-07 09:41 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 10:29 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:33 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:42 -0500
Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 07:01 +0000
Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:45 -0800
Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 18:23 +0000
Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
Re: Naughty Advertising (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:11 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:27 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:23 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:48 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-08 19:32 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 23:36 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:44 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 18:46 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 22:15 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 20:13 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 23:40 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 22:23 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 07:04 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 07:58 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:47 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:08 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:00 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 08:06 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:51 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 10:54 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:36 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 13:24 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:27 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 07:42 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-10 19:44 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 13:03 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-10 23:56 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:02 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-10 15:39 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:05 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:49 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 21:19 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:45 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:35 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 20:52 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 20:58 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 06:03 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 12:45 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 14:26 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 18:17 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 06:26 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-13 09:26 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:56 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:26 +0100
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-20 13:29 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:01 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-10 18:23 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-10 15:50 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 22:48 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:19 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:17 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:07 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-11 16:47 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 19:44 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 12:14 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 09:45 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:32 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 20:51 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 20:03 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 22:31 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 05:39 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 01:17 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:00 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:47 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:29 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 17:44 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 19:46 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 20:23 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:30 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 21:17 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 18:05 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 17:58 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 03:47 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 23:41 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 22:58 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:40 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-13 07:41 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 12:38 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 18:00 +0000
Naughty Cat Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-13 14:29 -0500
Re: Naughty Cat rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 00:42 +0000
Re: Naughty Cat Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-14 07:27 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-13 19:34 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 00:49 +0000
Tinned tuna [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:58 +0100
Oil down the drain [Was: naughty Pascal] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 14:53 +0100
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 20:57 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:50 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:31 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:43 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-11 16:44 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:34 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-11 21:38 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 08:11 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:45 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 19:52 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:22 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 00:37 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 08:18 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 13:15 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 18:10 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 00:47 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 04:10 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 15:44 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:52 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 20:46 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 18:12 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:50 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-13 12:41 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 18:17 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-13 22:41 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-14 01:01 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-16 21:40 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-01-18 12:30 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-18 21:08 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-19 16:22 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-13 09:23 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 08:25 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:22 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:26 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:35 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:57 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 23:41 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 06:32 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-13 04:35 -0600
Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-20 15:38 +0100
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-09 09:36 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:58 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2026-01-09 09:19 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:55 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:46 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 18:48 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:31 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 23:18 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:42 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:01 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:27 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 22:32 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 20:53 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 11:51 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:20 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:15 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:33 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:20 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 09:14 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 12:33 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 11:50 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 13:37 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:19 +0100
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:30 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 17:04 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:30 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:40 +0100
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:47 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:08 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:18 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:36 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 07:00 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:33 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 20:00 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:21 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 23:52 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:03 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 07:51 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:38 +0100
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:03 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 19:21 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 02:26 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-07 23:20 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:20 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-08 08:34 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:19 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:42 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 09:57 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 14:43 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:15 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:44 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 09:56 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 19:28 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-08 07:47 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:52 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 01:35 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:02 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 08:16 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:46 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:40 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:38 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 20:56 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:58 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-10 03:12 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:52 +0000
Re: naughty useless code (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 00:02 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:04 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:54 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 06:36 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-09 08:13 -0700
Re: Naughty PL/I (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:38 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-10 14:40 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:50 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:00 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 16:55 +0000
Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:24 +0000
Re: Naughty Fortran (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 18:00 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 21:31 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:49 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 20:43 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-10 19:39 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-10 20:47 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 00:27 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 18:41 -0800
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-10 20:06 -0700
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-10 22:44 -0500
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:40 -0700
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-11 03:50 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-11 05:55 -0600
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-11 14:18 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-01-11 17:00 +0100
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-11 20:44 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-12 11:49 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:52 -0700
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-12 17:03 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:57 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-12 20:05 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 20:16 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 05:01 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 06:31 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 08:09 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 14:21 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 17:54 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:46 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 04:31 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:56 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:24 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-13 00:36 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-12 23:04 -0500
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 01:52 -0500
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-10 23:34 -0800
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-11 02:50 -0500
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-11 14:55 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-12 02:42 +0000
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 07:50 -0700
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-12 09:14 -0800
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-12 13:12 -0700
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> - 2026-01-12 14:48 -0600
Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-11 07:48 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-11 01:32 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-11 11:21 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:22 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:41 +0100
Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:42 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:33 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 22:58 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-05 20:27 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 22:54 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:40 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 04:09 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:10 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:46 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:19 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 12:39 -0700
Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 19:56 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:44 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 19:57 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:53 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:17 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:06 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 23:44 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:57 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:56 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:08 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:21 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:41 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:26 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 19:59 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 21:00 -0500
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:00 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-08 20:09 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 02:02 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 10:05 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:02 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-09 18:48 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 20:27 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 10:15 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 15:31 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:39 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 09:25 -0800
Re: naughty Pascal scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 20:35 +0000
Re: naughty Pascal "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:25 +0100
Re: naughty Pascal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:00 +0000
Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 14:51 -0700
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:00 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 21:43 +0000
Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 23:54 +0000
Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-01 20:14 -0700
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:03 +0000
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:02 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 05:59 +0000
Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 06:01 +0000
Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 06:58 +0000
Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 17:14 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 14:58 -0500
Re: naughty Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-01-02 21:11 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 05:37 -0500
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:04 +0000
Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:24 +0100
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:51 -0500
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:56 +0000
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 10:59 +0000
Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 12:27 +0100
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:54 -0500
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:57 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 07:10 -0500
Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:34 +0100
Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 14:38 +0100
Re: naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 08:49 -0800
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 18:26 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:08 -0500
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 20:32 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:08 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-03 02:47 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-03 07:03 -0500
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 19:43 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 06:42 -0500
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 20:29 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-04 15:14 +0100
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 09:43 -0500
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-04 19:41 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:18 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-04 19:04 -0500
Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:55 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 11:29 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:59 -0500
Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:55 -0500
Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 17:43 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 18:08 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 20:32 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 17:25 -0500
Re: Naughty C♯ Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-06 07:55 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:19 -0500
Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 08:26 -0500
Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 18:09 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:16 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 05:57 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 17:48 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:09 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:20 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:24 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:44 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-05 19:31 -0500
Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 12:16 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 11:12 -0500
Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 16:25 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 17:59 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 19:59 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:57 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 13:37 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 15:30 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:26 +0000
Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-06 17:50 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:06 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 16:24 -0500
Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-06 23:10 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 00:22 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-06 21:00 -0500
Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:24 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-08 01:00 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-07 15:27 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:29 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 10:02 +0000
Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 11:53 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 07:34 -0700
Re: Re: Naughty C♯ cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-01-07 15:13 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-07 12:20 -0700
Re: Naughty C♯ John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 11:40 -0800
Re: Naughty C♯ Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:20 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 21:36 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:09 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-06 13:36 +0100
Re: Naughty C♯ Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-06 07:55 -0700
Re: Naughty PL/I (was Re: Naughty C♯) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 20:04 +0000
What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-06 15:15 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 20:10 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 21:59 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 22:54 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 01:40 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-07 13:30 +0100
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 22:49 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-08 00:47 -0500
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 11:23 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 19:16 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-08 20:34 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:45 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) sean@conman.org - 2026-01-09 00:23 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-09 04:54 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-09 07:08 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-09 16:18 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-12 15:44 +0100
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-12 18:57 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-12 19:59 +0000
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-13 06:13 -0500
Re: What is wrong with C? (and fond memories of VAX) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-13 18:22 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 17:17 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 18:59 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 11:26 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:34 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-05 08:24 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 19:06 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 06:50 -0500
Re: Naughty C♯ Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:03 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 19:11 +0000
Re: Naughty C♯ Bob Vloon <usenet@bananacorp.nl.invalid> - 2026-01-07 12:01 +0000
Re: Naughty Java (was Re: Naughty C♯) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:18 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 03:09 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:31 +0100
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 20:04 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:25 +0100
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 15:47 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:45 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 09:20 -0800
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 18:10 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-05 21:45 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 23:28 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:14 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:23 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 00:57 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:24 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 08:14 -0800
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-06 18:57 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-06 11:03 -0800
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-07 06:33 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 09:00 -0800
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-07 12:23 -0500
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:01 +0100
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-07 20:55 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 20:58 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-07 09:48 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-07 20:17 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-08 04:57 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-06 15:29 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-06 06:21 -0500
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-05 18:13 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 18:16 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-04 19:48 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-05 13:37 +0100
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-04 21:17 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:01 +0000
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 07:07 -0500
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-05 11:05 -0800
Re: C structure portability, naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-03 18:32 +0000
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 19:38 +0000
Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:33 +0000
Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 15:00 -0700
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:52 +0000
Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 19:51 -0700
Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-03 06:09 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:38 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 16:58 -0500
Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 08:01 -0700
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-04 16:25 -0500
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:12 +0000
Re: naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 07:14 -0500
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-04 20:25 +0000
Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 07:59 -0700
Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 16:31 +0000
Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-04 19:41 +0000
Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-04 20:05 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 04:17 +0000
Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-05 05:57 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-05 19:20 +0000
Re: naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-05 17:35 -0500
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 06:36 +0000
Re: naughty Python Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-01-06 03:31 +0000
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 10:20 +0000
Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-06 18:48 +0000
Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-06 22:02 +0000
Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-07 00:27 +0000
Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 02:09 +0000
Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-07 14:18 +0000
Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 20:40 +0000
Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-07 22:23 +0000
Re: Case-dependent file systems Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-10 14:36 +0000
Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-10 14:53 +0000
Re: Case-dependent file systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-10 15:08 +0000
Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 02:00 +0000
Re: Case-dependent file systems Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-01-11 14:34 +0000
Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-11 16:14 +0000
Re: Case-dependent file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-11 20:31 +0000
Re: Case-dependent file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-11 21:38 +0000
Re: Case-dependant file systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-06 23:09 +0000
Re: Case-dependant file systems "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:17 +0100
Re: Case-dependant file systems The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 13:36 +0000
Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:05 +0000
Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:15 +0000
Re: Case-dependant file systems Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-08 14:02 +0000
Re: Case-dependant file systems Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-01-08 14:13 +0000
Re: Case-dependant file systems Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-08 22:12 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-06 21:08 +0000
Re: C structures, was naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 22:41 +0000
Re: C structures, was naughty Python John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 15:44 -0800
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:19 -0500
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:08 -0500
Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 21:57 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 20:07 -0500
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:17 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 00:06 -0500
Re: language design, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 18:30 +0000
Re: language design, naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:15 -0500
Re: language design, naughty Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2026-01-02 20:34 +0000
Re: language design, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:17 +0000
Re: language design, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-03 07:11 -0500
Re: language design, naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 19:46 +0000
Re: language design, naughty Python Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-01-04 06:45 -0500
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 03:05 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-30 23:42 -0500
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 07:55 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:12 -0500
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-31 19:03 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 14:50 -0500
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:39 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:21 -0500
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 15:08 +0000
Re: naughty Python Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-31 15:38 +0000
Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-31 20:41 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 00:55 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 22:11 -0500
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 13:09 +0000
The Egg (was: Re: naughty Python) vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-01-02 01:54 +0000
Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:10 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 06:39 -0500
Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 07:51 -0700
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:34 +0000
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:12 +0000
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:17 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 11:46 -0500
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 22:28 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 21:50 -0500
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 12:37 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 01:15 -0500
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 11:35 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 20:02 +0000
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-31 12:23 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-31 09:16 -0500
Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-01 10:30 +0000
Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-01 19:00 +0000
Re: naughty Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 19:12 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 20:10 +0000
Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:37 +0100
Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 02:18 +0000
Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 03:23 +0000
Re: naughty Python Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-01-02 04:56 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:24 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 06:32 +0000
Re: naughty Python "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-01-02 13:06 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 09:41 -0500
Electronic calculators "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:57 +0100
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:36 +0000
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 19:57 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 01:07 +0000
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 08:36 +0000
Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-03 08:50 +0000
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-03 10:54 +0000
Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-03 07:39 -0700
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 14:22 -0500
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:14 +0000
Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-04 07:57 -0700
Re: naughty Python scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-01-03 18:34 +0000
Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-02 21:47 +0100
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:27 +0000
Re: naughty Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-01-03 14:24 +0100
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-03 14:08 -0500
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 20:48 +0000
Re: naughty Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-01 21:01 +0000
Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 02:53 +0000
Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 03:24 +0000
Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 05:04 +0000
Re: naughty Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-01-02 13:15 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 02:44 -0500
Re: naughty Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-01-02 07:43 -0700
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 10:06 -0500
Re: naughty Python Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2026-01-02 17:41 +0000
Re: naughty Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-01-02 15:04 -0500
Re: naughty Python Ian <${send-direct-email-to-news1021-at-jusme-dot-com-if-you-must}@jusme.com> - 2026-01-03 08:01 +0000
Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-02 20:56 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-03 00:44 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-01 20:05 +0000
Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-02 15:27 +0000
Re: naughty Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-01-02 19:21 +0000
Re: naughty Python antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2026-01-03 02:12 +0000
Re: naughty Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-01-03 03:15 +0000
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-12 19:56 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) |
| Message-ID | <10k3jls$2josb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80991 |
On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 07:52:46 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: > Now if only computer people could follow this rule. Our rule seems > to be "why not add just this one more feature" We follow Einstein’s rule: “things should be as complicated as they need to be, but no more.”
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-13 00:24 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) |
| Message-ID | <Cgg9R.296194$1mp6.180017@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #81007 |
On 2026-01-12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 07:52:46 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: > >> Now if only computer people could follow this rule. Our rule seems >> to be "why not add just this one more feature" > > We follow Einstein’s rule: “things should be as complicated as they > need to be, but no more.” s/complicated/simple/ -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-13 00:36 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) |
| Message-ID | <10k442u$2pgi5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #81031 |
On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 00:24:02 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-01-12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > >> On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 07:52:46 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: >> >>> Now if only computer people could follow this rule. Our rule seems >>> to be "why not add just this one more feature" >> >> We follow Einstein’s rule: “things should be as complicated as they >> need to be, but no more.” > > s/complicated/simple/ Really?? The man who brought Riemann tensors into physics?
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-01-12 23:04 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) |
| Message-ID | <WmKdnWBEkZbHWfj0nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #81032 |
On 1/12/26 19:36, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jan 2026 00:24:02 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> On 2026-01-12, Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 07:52:46 -0700, Peter Flass wrote: >>> >>>> Now if only computer people could follow this rule. Our rule seems >>>> to be "why not add just this one more feature" >>> >>> We follow Einstein’s rule: “things should be as complicated as they >>> need to be, but no more.” >> >> s/complicated/simple/ > > Really?? The man who brought Riemann tensors into physics? Well, really, it HAD to be that complicated just to be 'clear' ........ Even worse now, QM and 'strings' and such.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-01-11 01:52 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) |
| Message-ID | <HbacnbnTm5wE1f70nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #80872 |
On 1/10/26 21:41, John Ames wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 00:27:20 +0000 > Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> People should have the choice of writing that way if they want. And >> you always have the choice of not reading it. >> >> (If this sounds too harsh to somebody: I wrote this because of how >> Lawrence repeatedly mentioned "choice" as a way to dismiss criticism >> in other threads in comp.os.linux.misc.) > > While I appreciate the zing, I do have to opine for the record that K&R > function definitions really are something best left buried with K&R C. > I'm willing to write in ANSI C for the sake of whatever random weirdo > wants to try building something of mine on an old proprietary *nix, but > man I am *not* going any farther back than that. Look ... nobody is going to be 'writing' much of ANYTHING within five years. The "AI" will do it all - probably led by the pointy-haired bosses who can't find their ass even with a spy sat. And Win/Lin/IX ... I think they're going to go away as well. It'll all just be thin clients plugged into the leading AI engines. No more operating systems. Maybe PIs ... maybe. "Programming" is going to be like those who learn to play ancient Greek musical instruments ... an interesting, but obsolete, old art. "AI" for worse or worser, will be IT. Many TRILLIONS of dollars invested in this - it is GOING to be The Future whether we like it or not. Just sayin'
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-10 23:34 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) |
| Message-ID | <20260110233432.503028ee@coppelia.commodorejohn.com> |
| In reply to | #80889 |
On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 01:52:02 -0500 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > Look ... nobody is going to be 'writing' much of ANYTHING within five > years. The "AI" will do it all - probably led by the pointy-haired > bosses who can't find their ass even with a spy sat. The "AI" bubble isn't going to *last* another five years, full stop. Frankly, I'll be shocked if it makes it to '28, if that. You're not wrong that the PHBs would *love* to have a Magic Genie Friend who answers their poorly-specified and unreasonable demands without question, even if it doesn't actually *work* - but the current trend of "throw as much raw compute at the same moronic Markov-chain solution as possible, and somehow scrounge up more training data than THE ENTIRE INTERNET" will collapse under its own weight *long* before we ever get there. Why? There plain-and-simple *isn't the money for it* - global VC funds are draining at a staggering rate and the needle is inching closer and closer to *empty,* and major financial backers have finally started to go "wait, what if throwing infinite money at a thing that doesn't work *isn't* a sound investment strategy...?" And meanwhile, the morons at the major "AI" startups are continuing on with their moronic strategy, so that they continually need fresh injections of *even more money than they asked for last time.* PHBs will double down on a bad bet every time, but even *they* only have so many hundreds of billions to throw around willy-nilly. I'd strongly encourage you to check out Ed Zitron on this point: https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-enshittifinancial-crisis/#blue-owl-in-a-coal-mine It's looking a helluva lot like the "pop" has *already started* - one of the easiest partners in the funding business is looking at new "AI" datacenter deals (which they're already up to their *eyeballs* in) and going "um, no thanks." That's a "Jurassic Park" ripple-in-the-glass moment, right there. In ten years, this will be the stupidest, most expensive fiasco of a footnote in the history of the tech industry, and more than likely the harbinger of a global financial disaster - but it *won't* be the End Of Knowledge Work that the PHBs keep fantasizing it will.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-01-11 02:50 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) |
| Message-ID | <7y2dnbYmBsj-y_70nZ2dnZfqn_sAAAAA@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #80893 |
On 1/11/26 02:34, John Ames wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 01:52:02 -0500 > c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > >> Look ... nobody is going to be 'writing' much of ANYTHING within five >> years. The "AI" will do it all - probably led by the pointy-haired >> bosses who can't find their ass even with a spy sat. > > The "AI" bubble isn't going to *last* another five years, full stop. > Frankly, I'll be shocked if it makes it to '28, if that. Don't confuse the "bubble" - which IS doomed - with the tech. Expect maybe just TWO big AI providers to survive. CHAT will be one of them. > You're not wrong that the PHBs would *love* to have a Magic Genie > Friend who answers their poorly-specified and unreasonable demands > without question, even if it doesn't actually *work* - but the current > trend of "throw as much raw compute at the same moronic Markov-chain > solution as possible, and somehow scrounge up more training data than > THE ENTIRE INTERNET" will collapse under its own weight *long* before > we ever get there. This is what I'm saying ... a LOT of stuff IS going to implode once AI starts writing everything. But, nobody CARES ... the AI shit is WAY too HOT for anyone to THINK.
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2026-01-11 14:55 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) |
| Message-ID | <6963b9c5$0$31894$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #80893 |
Le 11-01-2026, John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> a écrit : > On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 01:52:02 -0500 > c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > >> Look ... nobody is going to be 'writing' much of ANYTHING within five >> years. The "AI" will do it all - probably led by the pointy-haired >> bosses who can't find their ass even with a spy sat. > > The "AI" bubble isn't going to *last* another five years, full stop. > Frankly, I'll be shocked if it makes it to '28, if that. The AI bubble which must be considered (I mean: a lot of people has a lot of understanding of that term) is that big companies will stop to invest always more money on it. That doesn't mean the data centers will stop to work, it means that new data centers will stop to be build. At least at such increasing speed. It doesn't mean that actual GPU will cease to work. It means that big companies will stop to buy so many GPU. So, globally, everything that has already be done will stay. And new things will improve at a slower pace. The AI is there and will stay there for a long time. When the AI bubble will burst, its impact will be more on the global economy than on its usage. That's why the companies invest so much. Because the one which will have the lead at the time of the burst expects to keep that lead for a long time. Not because they are stupid and can't predict the obvious. The AI is there, like it or not, you have to live with it. The fact that you or I like it or not is irrelevant. Like when Platon was criticizing writing system because people stopped to learn by heart, the writing system was there, stay through the ages and revolutionised things. There are some things like farming, writing, electricity that changed everything on the human way of life. And the AI is one one them. There is no going back. I'm not saying that it's good or bad, I'm saying that it's the evolution (not progress because progress is good by definition) and one can't do anything but live with it. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) |
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| Date | 2026-01-12 02:42 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) |
| Message-ID | <10k1n30$34ilb$1@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #80918 |
In alt.folklore.computers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
> Le 11-01-2026, John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 01:52:02 -0500
>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Look ... nobody is going to be 'writing' much of ANYTHING within five
>>> years. The "AI" will do it all - probably led by the pointy-haired
>>> bosses who can't find their ass even with a spy sat.
>>
>> The "AI" bubble isn't going to *last* another five years, full stop.
>> Frankly, I'll be shocked if it makes it to '28, if that.
>
> The AI bubble which must be considered (I mean: a lot of people has a
> lot of understanding of that term) is that big companies will stop
> to invest always more money on it. That doesn't mean the data centers
> will stop to work, it means that new data centers will stop to be build.
> At least at such increasing speed. It doesn't mean that actual GPU will
> cease to work. It means that big companies will stop to buy so many GPU.
>
> So, globally, everything that has already be done will stay. And new
> things will improve at a slower pace. The AI is there and will stay
> there for a long time. When the AI bubble will burst, its impact will
> be more on the global economy than on its usage.
>
> That's why the companies invest so much. Because the one which will
> have the lead at the time of the burst expects to keep that lead for a
> long time. Not because they are stupid and can't predict the obvious.
>
> The AI is there, like it or not, you have to live with it. The fact that
> you or I like it or not is irrelevant. Like when Platon was criticizing
> writing system because people stopped to learn by heart, the writing
> system was there, stay through the ages and revolutionised things. There
> are some things like farming, writing, electricity that changed
> everything on the human way of life. And the AI is one one them. There
> is no going back. I'm not saying that it's good or bad, I'm saying that
> it's the evolution (not progress because progress is good by definition)
> and one can't do anything but live with it.
I think you miss the point. First, a lot was promised and there
is still hope that big thing will be delivered. So, active players
may win really big, that is why money still flows in.
Now, concerning burst: AFAIK AI companies use investment money to
cover cost of operation (whole or in significant part). If there
is burst, they will have to stop operating literally closing
their datacenters. Basically only things that generate profits
or possibly some research by companies that have other sources of
income and still want to continue research. But that would be
at much lower scale than currently.
Now, concerning 'AI is there', there was significant progress in
some areas like machine translation. "Creative writers" may be
concerned. But there were attempts to replace a lot of professionals,
notably programmers. Examples indicate that "AI" can create
small, trival pieces of code but does not really work for
bigger and more complex things. To be useful for programming "AI"
and way it is used must be significantly improved. It is possible
that slower, gradual improvement will lead to "useful AI".
But it is also possible that alternative approaches, currently
underfunded due to AI race, will progress and be used insted
of "AI".
Let me say that I am an AI fan and that eventually we will have
useful AI. But current trend seem to be fundamentally wrong.
I mean, educated young person got maybe 20 years exposure to
learning materials. Assuming reading 10 hours daily at 10 cps
we get about 2.6 GB of learning material. Beside reading there
is speach, smell, touch and visual innformation. Speach has
similar speed as reading, smell and touch seem to be lower
bandwidth. Theoretially visual tract has huge bandwidth, but
blind people seem to be as inteligent as others, so visual
part is likely to be noncritcal for general inteligence (as
oposed to some sepcific visial tasks). So 2.6 GB looks like
very generous estimate on amount of training material needed
for human-level inteligence. Yet current AI uses vastly bigger
training sets giving much lower performance. I have heard
from neural network specialist that current network training
algorithms are vastly more efficient than traing going on
in brain (or rather vastly more efficient than our current
idea of what is going on inside brain). Yet computational
cost of AI training seem to approach estimated peak compute
power of human brain times time needed for learning.
So, it looks that for general AI we are missing something
important. For applications ANN apparently struggle with
tasks that have easy algorithmic solution. So natural way
forward with applications seem to be via hybrid approaches.
But AI crowd seem to prefer pure ANN solutions and tries
to brute-force problems using more compute power.
--
Waldek Hebisch
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| From | Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-12 07:50 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) |
| Message-ID | <10k31ng$2d8ro$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80959 |
On 1/11/26 19:42, Waldek Hebisch wrote: >> > > Now, concerning 'AI is there', there was significant progress in > some areas like machine translation. "Creative writers" may be > concerned. But there were attempts to replace a lot of professionals, > notably programmers. Examples indicate that "AI" can create > small, trival pieces of code but does not really work for > bigger and more complex things. To be useful for programming "AI" > and way it is used must be significantly improved. I know this is kind of niche, but just for kicks I asked ChatGPT to generate a PL/I version of a structure. I have to say I'm surprised that it even knew what PL/I is, but I was more surprised that it "hallucinated" some non-existent syntax. I thought it had to be me, but I researched it and couldn't find it in any compiler or dialect.
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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-12 09:14 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) |
| Message-ID | <20260112091456.00001487@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #80959 |
On Mon, 12 Jan 2026 02:42:42 -0000 (UTC) antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) wrote: > Now, concerning burst: AFAIK AI companies use investment money to > cover cost of operation (whole or in significant part). If there > is burst, they will have to stop operating literally closing > their datacenters. Basically only things that generate profits > or possibly some research by companies that have other sources of > income and still want to continue research. But that would be > at much lower scale than currently. This is the key point on which the "but the tech will remain!" argument founders. It's not just that research will stop being funded, but that it costs so much just to *run* that the only thing keeping the lights on is regular infusions of billions in investor cash - and, in OpenAI's case, generous subsidies on raw compute from M$. Once *that* dries up, they're either going to have to magically become orders of magnitude more efficient (which they've showed *absolutely* no aptitude for - and China had a good laugh pantsing our tech sector on that score last spring, but it's sounding post-fact like their gains were, um, not as impressive as they'dve liked everyone to think) or price to reflect the *real* cost of operations - and if they can only get a fraction of their userbase to pay $200/mo. for a Magical Chatbot Friend, good freakin' luck squeezing any more blood from *that* turnip. The much likelier scenario is that when the funding stops flowing in and the business plan fails to advance from "???" to "profit!" things will just...*stop.* Obviously, it'll still be *possible* to write this kind of software and run it in a slower, more limited context on stock hardware (high-end GPUs will be going *real* cheap for a while, but they also cost so much to run and require so much infrastructure that it's questionable how cost-effective it'll be to reuse them,) and possibly the tech will find its niche in certain fields (as "expert systems" did after the first "AI winter,") but the economics of doing "generative AI" at global scale are simply *insane,* and the current offerings in their present form simply will not survive once taken off VC life support. (Again, I'll recommend Ed Zitron on this, who has written *extensively* about it over the past couple years, and has done a lot to break down how much it actually *costs* - https://www.wheresyoured.at/oai_docs/ ) > But there were attempts to replace a lot of professionals, > notably programmers. Examples indicate that "AI" can create > small, trival pieces of code but does not really work for > bigger and more complex things. To be useful for programming "AI" > and way it is used must be significantly improved. It is possible > that slower, gradual improvement will lead to "useful AI". > But it is also possible that alternative approaches, currently > underfunded due to AI race, will progress and be used insted > of "AI". > > [...] > > So, it looks that for general AI we are missing something > important. For applications ANN apparently struggle with > tasks that have easy algorithmic solution. So natural way > forward with applications seem to be via hybrid approaches. > But AI crowd seem to prefer pure ANN solutions and tries > to brute-force problems using more compute power. Exactly. It's entirely possible that programming twenty years from now will look very different from programming today, and there *may* come a point where we "crack" using ML techniques for software development in a productive, reliable way - but it's *not* gonna come from the current crop of clowns, nor through burning infinite money on throwing *MOAR COMPUTE!!!1one* at the same stupid "solution."
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| From | Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-12 13:12 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) |
| Message-ID | <10k3kii$2k2m7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80996 |
On 1/12/26 10:14, John Ames wrote: > if they can only > get a fraction of their userbase to pay $200/mo. for a Magical Chatbot > Friend, good freakin' luck squeezing any more blood from *that* turnip. > Make it a s*xbot, and all the incels will pay to imagine they have a girlfriend.
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| From | Harold Stevens <wookie@aspen.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2026-01-12 14:48 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) |
| Message-ID | <slrn10mangk.1376.wookie@aspen.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #81012 |
In <10k3kii$2k2m7$1@dont-email.me> Peter Flass: > On 1/12/26 10:14, John Ames wrote: >> if they can only >> get a fraction of their userbase to pay $200/mo. for a Magical Chatbot >> Friend, good freakin' luck squeezing any more blood from *that* turnip. >> > > Make it a s*xbot, and all the incels will pay to imagine they have a > girlfriend. LOL!!! Beats hell outta reuseable inflatable plastic dolls, hidden in the basement in grandad's empty Vietnam ammo box. "No self-respecting woman wants to date you? SIGN UP FOR AIGRLLL!" IIRC, it was pay-to-view online porn sites in the late 1990's that drove initial development of secure consumer online payment apps. -- Regards, Weird (Harold Stevens) * IMPORTANT EMAIL INFO FOLLOWS * Pardon any bogus email addresses (wookie) in place for spambots. Really, it's (wyrd) at att, dotted with net. * DO NOT SPAM IT. * I toss (404) GoogleGroup (404 http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/).
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| From | Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-11 07:48 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: naughty C (was Re: naughty Pascal) |
| Message-ID | <10k0d7e$3v5b2$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80889 |
On 1/10/26 23:52, c186282 wrote: > On 1/10/26 21:41, John Ames wrote: >> On Sun, 11 Jan 2026 00:27:20 +0000 >> Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> People should have the choice of writing that way if they want. And >>> you always have the choice of not reading it. >>> >>> (If this sounds too harsh to somebody: I wrote this because of how >>> Lawrence repeatedly mentioned "choice" as a way to dismiss criticism >>> in other threads in comp.os.linux.misc.) >> >> While I appreciate the zing, I do have to opine for the record that K&R >> function definitions really are something best left buried with K&R C. >> I'm willing to write in ANSI C for the sake of whatever random weirdo >> wants to try building something of mine on an old proprietary *nix, but >> man I am *not* going any farther back than that. > > Look ... nobody is going to be 'writing' much > of ANYTHING within five years. The "AI" will do > it all - probably led by the pointy-haired bosses > who can't find their ass even with a spy sat. > > And Win/Lin/IX ... I think they're going to go > away as well. It'll all just be thin clients > plugged into the leading AI engines. No more > operating systems. > > Maybe PIs ... maybe. > > "Programming" is going to be like those who learn > to play ancient Greek musical instruments ... an > interesting, but obsolete, old art. "AI" for worse > or worser, will be IT. Many TRILLIONS of dollars > invested in this - it is GOING to be The Future > whether we like it or not. > > Just sayin' > I've seen this before. Remember 4GLs like MarkIV, et.al. that were going to make programming so simple that even a PHB could do it? I haven't heard much about them lately. Any AI-generated code is going to need a long hard look from a real programmer before going into production. Often it's harder to pick up someone's (or something's) code and verify and fix it than it is to write something from scratch where you understand how every part of it works.
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| From | antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) |
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| Date | 2026-01-11 01:32 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: naughty Pascal |
| Message-ID | <10juuj1$2q67j$4@paganini.bofh.team> |
| In reply to | #80852 |
In alt.folklore.computers Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
> On 2026-01-09, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>
>> 'C' has added a few nicey-nice things, but not TOO much.
>> You can (I do) stick pretty much to K&R and everything
>> still works fine.
>
> I think of my style as "K&R plus prototypes". In fact, to
> work both ways, my code is still full of constructs like this:
>
> #ifdef PROTOTYPE
> int foo(char *bar, BOOL baz)
> #else
> int foo(bar, baz) char *bar; BOOL baz;
> #endif
I almost never used non-prototype form for my own code. I kept
it in "public" code for benefits of HP-UX users (which was
delivered with K&R compiler and ANSI way payed-for extra).
I got rid of most of such stuff about 18 years ago. I probably
still have some codes that I fetched from the net which use
old form, but I doubt if it is present in code that I use.
--
Waldek Hebisch
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-11 11:21 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: naughty Pascal |
| Message-ID | <10k0138$3qvn9$11@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #80852 |
On 10/01/2026 19:39, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-01-09, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > >> 'C' has added a few nicey-nice things, but not TOO much. >> You can (I do) stick pretty much to K&R and everything >> still works fine. > > I think of my style as "K&R plus prototypes". In fact, to > work both ways, my code is still full of constructs like this: > > #ifdef PROTOTYPE > int foo(char *bar, BOOL baz) > #else > int foo(bar, baz) char *bar; BOOL baz; > #endif > I write whichever way my compilers' defaults accept things. -- All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is fully understood.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-06 19:22 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: naughty Pascal |
| Message-ID | <ms55njFqgiaU6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #80574 |
On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 13:19:54 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > I don't think anyone used the original flavor of the language. They did. Or at least they tried to.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-07 13:41 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: naughty Pascal |
| Message-ID | <rs023mxeoi.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #80609 |
On 2026-01-06 20:22, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jan 2026 13:19:54 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> I don't think anyone used the original flavor of the language. > > They did. Or at least they tried to. Maybe till TP appeared? -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-05 21:42 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: naughty Pascal |
| Message-ID | <10jhb84$3993m$1@nntp.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #80533 |
On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 11:50:58 -0800, John Ames wrote: > On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700 > Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote: > >> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea >> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS >> interacts directly with the hardware. > > "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though, > and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse > limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.* That’s precisely the point that Peter Flass was trying to make: the lack of built-in I/O features in a language designed to implement operating systems isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.
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| From | Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-05 20:33 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: naughty Pascal |
| Message-ID | <10jhvpk$3f9k2$2@nntp.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #80537 |
On 1/5/26 14:42, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 11:50:58 -0800, John Ames wrote: > >> On Mon, 5 Jan 2026 12:33:53 -0700 >> Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote: >> >>> Actually, many systems programming languages have no I/O, the idea >>> being that non-OS programs call the OS to do the I/O, and the OS >>> interacts directly with the hardware. >> >> "Systems programming" usually implies implementation of an OS, though, >> and IIRC that was the sense that Kernighan was using. You can't excuse >> limitations by "oh, the OS handles that" when your program *is* the OS.* > > That’s precisely the point that Peter Flass was trying to make: the > lack of built-in I/O features in a language designed to implement > operating systems isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. The I/O package is probably a huge part of any program that uses it. printf, for example, needs to support the conversion of all possible data types to character for output.
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