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| Started by | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2026-09-15 21:48 -0400 |
| Last post | 2026-09-27 09:49 +0100 |
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Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 21:48 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-16 03:17 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 23:35 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-18 21:29 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 01:51 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-19 09:36 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-19 12:03 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 01:49 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 02:44 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-21 20:29 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-21 22:45 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 02:30 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 20:38 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 12:43 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 17:38 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 09:46 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 21:47 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 12:54 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 17:59 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 11:38 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 18:13 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 03:22 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 06:56 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 07:19 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 11:24 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-23 00:15 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 01:54 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-16 07:24 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-16 12:36 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-16 10:11 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 12:20 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-17 12:58 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 13:26 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-18 00:49 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-18 08:10 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-18 20:01 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 16:23 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-09-18 17:42 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 18:09 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-18 23:02 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 01:08 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 00:33 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-18 21:20 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-18 16:05 -0500
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 17:09 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-18 17:19 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-09-18 17:47 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-09-18 22:10 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-18 23:13 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-19 19:56 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-19 09:42 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-20 21:24 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:18 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 04:51 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-21 19:18 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-21 13:13 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 23:33 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-21 18:46 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 20:52 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 20:02 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-23 21:21 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-19 18:33 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-19 21:24 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-20 04:03 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 04:21 -0400
screen shape/orientation (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 10:31 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 10:45 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 10:57 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 10:39 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 15:04 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:29 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 22:47 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-20 20:36 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:14 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-20 11:26 -0500
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:32 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 06:16 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:41 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 14:30 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 20:57 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:01 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 17:19 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-21 16:02 -0500
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 19:23 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 03:30 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-22 14:12 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 13:47 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-22 19:29 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-21 14:26 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 16:36 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-21 18:44 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-21 22:29 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 23:34 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-22 08:28 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 13:49 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-22 19:40 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 07:43 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 12:38 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 12:11 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 19:55 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-23 19:20 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-24 00:27 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-24 23:31 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-25 09:18 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 11:05 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:18 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 04:13 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 18:55 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 20:43 +1000
Gigaset M740AV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 20:25 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-24 13:43 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-24 20:39 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 06:51 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:24 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-25 12:11 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 11:18 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-25 12:41 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-25 11:57 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 12:48 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 14:25 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 15:46 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 16:47 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:28 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:33 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 14:03 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 15:42 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:34 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:36 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:14 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:39 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-26 17:14 -0500
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 22:16 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:24 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 07:38 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 09:37 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:42 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:32 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 18:56 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:46 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:03 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 19:16 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-28 07:19 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:37 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:38 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 22:32 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-29 00:10 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 01:56 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 08:20 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 21:46 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 23:27 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 08:12 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 19:05 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 09:05 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-28 20:46 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 12:03 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-28 17:37 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 19:03 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-26 19:14 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:10 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-22 02:20 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 07:50 +0100
OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 18:59 +0100
Re: OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-22 19:52 +0000
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-23 02:29 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 09:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 12:40 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 13:38 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-24 19:46 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-23 00:04 -0400
OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 06:45 +0100
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-24 04:10 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:39 +0100
Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-24 13:17 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-24 19:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-24 23:17 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 20:39 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:11 +0200
Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-26 11:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:08 +0100
Re: OT - TV Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-26 19:10 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 21:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 21:03 +0100
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:20 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-28 15:45 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:30 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:46 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 22:25 +0100
Re: OT - TV NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 16:40 +0100
OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 16:58 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 18:19 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:57 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:00 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) André Coutanche <acoutanche@gmx.co.uk> - 2026-09-29 21:50 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 22:33 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 22:48 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:07 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 15:51 -0700
Re: OT - Lehrer c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 21:02 -0400
Re: OT - Lehrer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:22 -0500
Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:01 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 10:57 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-30 08:10 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:39 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-30 00:46 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 22:39 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:25 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 13:34 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:31 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-30 14:47 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 14:58 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:36 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 11:12 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:35 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 16:14 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:35 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:53 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 19:03 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 21:50 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:25 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 00:03 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:13 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 11:51 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 14:55 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-30 14:15 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 19:58 +1000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 22:13 +1000
Re: OT - TV Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2026-10-08 21:51 +0200
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:47 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-12 11:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 22:37 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:17 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:15 +0000
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-27 11:56 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:28 +0200
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-27 15:28 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 10:19 +0200
[OT] - audio distribution, Rediffusion-style (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:43 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-27 11:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-27 18:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-27 18:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:34 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-28 14:03 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:46 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-29 12:01 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 13:05 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 14:13 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Other John <nomail@here.org> - 2026-09-29 16:53 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 17:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:23 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:48 +0100
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 07:37 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:28 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:35 +0200
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:15 +0100
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:15 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:24 +0200
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-01 17:17 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:48 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 13:32 +0100
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:52 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-03 21:10 +1000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:39 +0200
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:11 -0400
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-04 21:26 +1100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 13:19 +0200
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:36 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 19:18 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 12:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 12:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:09 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 15:59 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-03 15:56 +0000
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 17:19 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:54 +0000
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 01:27 -0400
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-05 07:55 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 14:54 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:17 +0000
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-05 11:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-05 11:46 +0100
Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-06 17:51 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-06 18:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 20:36 +0200
Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-07 09:00 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:21 +0200
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-07 11:54 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:37 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:51 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-08 22:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 22:15 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:22 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:33 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:20 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 01:01 +0000
Re: OT - TV Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2026-10-09 20:09 -0700
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 07:03 +0000
Re: OT - TV Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2026-10-10 10:32 -0700
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 19:56 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:35 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:54 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:33 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:52 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 20:04 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 22:15 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 03:23 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:15 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:41 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:40 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:22 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:38 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:17 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:58 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 20:45 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 22:44 -0400
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:45 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:14 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 00:53 -0400
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 12:54 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:31 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 17:39 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 18:53 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 05:26 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 09:14 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-16 19:29 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 23:02 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-16 22:32 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:35 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 03:28 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:41 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 19:24 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:02 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 12:16 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:41 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 18:55 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-17 12:52 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 15:03 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 20:08 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 20:05 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-17 18:33 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 18:57 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 22:03 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 22:38 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 01:40 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 03:26 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:07 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:45 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-17 18:33 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 19:10 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 13:01 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:33 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 17:40 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 19:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:26 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:07 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 02:28 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:32 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 00:46 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:29 +0200
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:20 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:32 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-09 23:08 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:34 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 19:30 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 21:56 +0200
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-11 21:15 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 11:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-11 22:15 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:54 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 18:35 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-11 18:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 20:10 +0100
Re: OT - TV NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-11 20:54 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 03:26 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:11 +1100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 02:24 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 03:49 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:17 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 16:27 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 07:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-12 03:13 -0400
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:07 +1100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 18:21 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:26 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-13 22:36 +1100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:17 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:55 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:09 +1100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:02 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:01 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 17:58 +1100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 17:46 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:18 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:59 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:29 +0200
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 23:46 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:48 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 18:28 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 19:11 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 22:35 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 01:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-13 06:16 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:27 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:40 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:54 +0200
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-13 19:57 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 21:10 +0200
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:06 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 20:21 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 22:09 +0200
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 22:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:09 +1100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:31 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 04:24 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-13 17:21 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 03:53 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 08:54 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 19:27 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-14 11:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:12 +1100
Re: OT - TV Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 00:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-13 12:08 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 13:16 +0200
Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-13 12:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-13 18:16 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 19:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:00 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 20:28 +0100
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 22:51 -0400
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-14 00:32 -0400
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 01:26 -0400
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:08 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:58 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 10:20 +0100
Re: OT - TV Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-15 15:25 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 19:11 +0100
Re: OT - TV Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-16 01:50 +0000
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-16 00:39 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 10:34 +0100
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Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:37 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:36 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 00:03 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:21 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:15 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:16 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:48 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:16 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:07 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:20 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:18 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:06 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:25 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:32 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:22 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:34 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:25 +0200
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:25 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:32 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-27 15:04 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:39 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-27 19:58 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 09:13 +0100
Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-28 09:39 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 11:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 13:04 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:42 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-28 16:45 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:53 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-28 19:26 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:25 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 09:43 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:56 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 10:41 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 13:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 13:39 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 15:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 14:19 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 15:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 20:01 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:06 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:25 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 01:15 +0000
Re: OT - TV Carlos <crazyhotwrse8@stinty.org> - 2026-10-03 20:41 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-03 21:28 -0400
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 17:16 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 18:50 +0100
[OT] - power (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 19:05 +0100
Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 19:15 +0100
Re: [OT] - power "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:48 +0200
Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:00 +0100
Re: [OT] - power c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 15:30 -0400
Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:47 +0100
Re: [OT] - power Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-30 13:28 -0400
Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:24 +0100
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-29 14:58 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:52 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:01 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:36 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:55 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 03:57 +0000
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-04 10:40 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 11:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-04 15:59 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:25 +0100
[OT] energy (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-04 23:54 +0100
Re: [OT] energy (was: Re: OT - TV) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 00:57 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 08:56 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:12 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 16:04 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 19:31 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 19:59 +0100
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 19:04 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:19 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 21:41 +0200
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 01:39 +0000
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:27 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:09 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:14 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:27 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 12:06 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:37 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:03 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 12:26 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:45 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-06 03:52 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:38 +0100
Re: [OT] energy Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-10-11 16:29 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:51 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:30 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:10 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 14:43 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 14:10 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 19:54 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 08:51 +0100
Re: [OT] energy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 04:40 -0400
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:19 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 16:20 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 19:32 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:02 +0100
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 19:03 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:13 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 21:42 +0200
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 01:37 +0000
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:42 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:42 +0100
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-07 18:37 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 07:47 +0100
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 01:20 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 14:03 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-10-11 16:28 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:49 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:35 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:01 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:36 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:12 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 12:52 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:01 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:03 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:05 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:57 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:14 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:51 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 14:06 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-10 12:26 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 20:11 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:48 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:07 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:38 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:46 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:03 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:56 +0100
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 14:18 +0000
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:33 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:22 +0100
Re: [OT] energy Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-10-11 14:14 +0200
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:33 +0200
Re: [OT] energy "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 23:47 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:39 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:31 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:39 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:35 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:20 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 21:50 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:20 +0100
Re: [OT] energy Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 23:18 +1100
Re: [OT] energy (was: Re: OT - TV) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-05 06:40 -0500
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 20:18 +1000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:54 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 03:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:41 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:36 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 20:58 +1000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 20:56 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-24 22:24 +1000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:07 +0100
Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-24 12:53 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:09 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 18:56 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 10:47 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 10:01 +0100
OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 14:42 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 15:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 15:55 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:18 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-24 19:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 10:34 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:10 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 05:12 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 10:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 13:52 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 15:41 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 19:35 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 21:30 +1000
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-25 19:54 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:14 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:38 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:06 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 09:16 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:24 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:35 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 18:36 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:02 +0200
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:09 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:03 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:46 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-29 09:22 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-29 09:00 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:49 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-29 18:46 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 01:57 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-30 22:07 +1000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:42 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:51 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:31 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:55 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:50 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:35 +0000
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 23:02 -0400
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:19 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:27 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:22 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:20 +0000
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 06:57 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:22 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:43 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 19:21 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 01:09 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:08 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 19:28 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 09:14 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 12:11 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 11:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 13:31 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 17:44 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 20:19 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 17:37 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 20:29 +0200
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 23:56 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:19 +0200
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:25 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 00:48 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:05 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:43 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:09 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:49 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 22:18 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:33 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 00:58 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:07 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 07:07 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 18:33 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:13 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 19:06 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:51 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 02:41 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:31 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 19:11 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 09:10 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 18:00 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:33 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 00:40 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 08:57 +0100
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-04 10:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 18:08 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:59 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:12 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 15:28 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:28 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 21:03 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:27 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-30 18:27 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 01:03 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 03:31 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:10 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:36 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:24 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 18:47 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:34 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 02:50 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:46 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 19:51 +0000
Re: OT - TV Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-02 03:59 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-02 18:17 +0000
Re: OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 15:04 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 16:28 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 15:51 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:20 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-24 18:26 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:20 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 18:44 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:27 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-25 17:55 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-25 19:14 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 03:43 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-22 16:05 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-09-22 18:19 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 18:31 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 09:45 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-23 14:41 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:09 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 03:14 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:10 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 21:55 -0400
OT - TV (now radio) (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 09:49 +0100
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-09-23 19:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nhijj5Fjs27U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92038 |
Carlos E.R. wrote: > The M740 could record two programs and play a recording simultaneously, > for instance. > > It could edit a recording. > > You could download a recording to the computer. I spent several years using MythTV, but its rate of progress was slow, now I switched to TVheadend and it seems pretty complete, just choose your tuners wisely, don't buy one that has out-of-tree drivers, or you'll be having to keep them tweaked for later kernels ... I've been very impressed with a combined DVB-T2/S2/C2 card from Hauppauge (sp?)
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-24 00:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fI6dnZJo3chYOyn3nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92039 |
On 9/23/26 14:20, Andy Burns wrote: > Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> The M740 could record two programs and play a recording >> simultaneously, for instance. >> >> It could edit a recording. >> >> You could download a recording to the computer. > > I spent several years using MythTV, but its rate of progress was slow, > now I switched to TVheadend and it seems pretty complete, just choose > your tuners wisely, don't buy one that has out-of-tree drivers, or > you'll be having to keep them tweaked for later kernels ... I've been > very impressed with a combined DVB-T2/S2/C2 card from Hauppauge (sp?) For "online content" I use PlutoTV - esp when the cable provider has 200 channels of SHIT. Pluto IS 'commercial' - there ARE 'commercials' - but then I'm used to that. No probs so long as I don't need a subscription. Do THOSE and then there will be an unending bombardment of ads and spyware.
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| From | Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-24 23:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20260924192520@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #92055 |
On 2026-09-24, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > On 9/23/26 14:20, Andy Burns wrote: > For "online content" I use PlutoTV Pluto is great, you gotta love a TV service that has things like dedicated Addams Family and classic Dr. Who channels. Still free and no need to create an account. For local stations we just use an antenna on the roof. -- Roger Blake
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 09:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nhmp34F9i22U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92116 |
Roger Blake wrote: > On 2026-09-24, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >> On 9/23/26 14:20, Andy Burns wrote: >> For "online content" I use PlutoTV Did I?
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 11:05 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1195h0c$3ef2u$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92124 |
On 25/09/2026 09:18, Andy Burns wrote: > Roger Blake wrote: > >> On 2026-09-24, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >>> On 9/23/26 14:20, Andy Burns wrote: >>> For "online content" I use PlutoTV > Did I? Maintaining attribution while drastically snipping is not something many user agents do well, if at all -- Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. Groucho Marx
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 21:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1196ku4$3tpc6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92134 |
On 2026/9/25 11:5:0, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 25/09/2026 09:18, Andy Burns wrote: >> Roger Blake wrote: >> >>> On 2026-09-24, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >>>> On 9/23/26 14:20, Andy Burns wrote: >>>> For "online content" I use PlutoTV >> Did I? > > Maintaining attribution while drastically snipping is not something many > user agents do well, if at all > Do any? I always do it manually: look how many > are at the beginning of the first line I want to quote, then delete all the attribution lines after the one with one fewer than that. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-26 04:13 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <49qcnaDPOdIB4yr3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92124 |
On 9/25/26 04:18, Andy Burns wrote: > Roger Blake wrote: > >> On 2026-09-24, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >>> On 9/23/26 14:20, Andy Burns wrote: >>> For "online content" I use PlutoTV > Did I? Ummm ... odd question. *I* use PlutoTV for online TV. Others will, at greater price/complication, use other services. I like *simple* and am USED to 'commercials'. I am happy. Are YOU ? Currently can get all the Trek's and old Dr Who ... and sometimes they offer the "Transformer" movies and such. What more could one ask for ? :-) THINK some of the paranoid 60s sci-fi can be had ... The Invaders, Time Tunnel, The Prisoner and such. Anyway, cable sometimes provides 200 channels of what I see as CRAP. So, then ......
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-09-26 18:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11990v1$mmij$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92194 |
On 2026/9/26 9:13:16, c186282 wrote: > On 9/25/26 04:18, Andy Burns wrote: >> Roger Blake wrote: >> >>> On 2026-09-24, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >>>> On 9/23/26 14:20, Andy Burns wrote: >>>> For "online content" I use PlutoTV >> Did I? > > Ummm ... odd question. [] Not really: Andy was pointing out that attribution lines had been deleted.-- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf If it's not on fire, it's a software problem.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 20:43 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <1195j85$3gh9e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92116 |
On 25/09/2026 9:31 am, Roger Blake wrote: > On 2026-09-24, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: >> On 9/23/26 14:20, Andy Burns wrote: >> For "online content" I use PlutoTV > > Pluto is great, you gotta love a TV service that has things > like dedicated Addams Family and classic Dr. Who channels. > Still free and no need to create an account. For ClassicWho content, I've set myself up an account on Youtube. Too easy. -- Daniel70
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-23 20:25 +0200 |
| Subject | Gigaset M740AV |
| Message-ID | <r5idomx3d2.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #92038 |
On 2026-09-23 19:55, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-09-23 14:11, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >>> Yes, I have one similar. But they are not even close to the features of >>> the M740 >> >> Waht features do you mean? >> Mine can record, as times you can set, playback, sometimes I record stuff >> mosty music, or sciencewprograms an then later copy it to teh 4 TB >> harddisc >> also connected to teh big Samsung TV. > > The M740 could record two programs and play a recording simultaneously, > for instance. > > It could edit a recording. > > You could download a recording to the computer. > > It could automatically record all programs named "kojac" in a channel. > You could program the recordings using a web page on the computer. > > It ran Linux. Originally there was a telnet port, then a community > firmware update added ssh, I think. There was ftp and http > > And many things I have forgotten. I asked ChatGPT for a summary: > > Yes. The **Siemens Gigaset M740 AV** was quite an ambitious DVB-T set- > top box for its time (around 2004–2005). It was essentially a **digital > TV receiver \+ PVR + network/media player**, rather than just a basic > tuner. CHIP+1 > > ### Main features > > - **Dual DVB-T tuners** — two independent terrestrial digital-TV > tuners. This allowed you to **watch one channel while recording > another**, and also enabled Picture-in-Picture (PIP). ManualsLib+1 > > - **Recording to external storage** — it had **no built-in hard disk**, > but could record TV to a USB hard drive or a network drive. Recordings > were stored as MPEG-2 streams. Golem > > - **Time-shifting / timeshift** — with a suitable USB hard disk, you > could pause live TV and continue watching later. The configuration > allowed a timeshift buffer of up to **240 minutes**. ManualsLib > > - **Electronic Programme Guide (EPG)** — used programme-guide > information for navigating TV schedules and setting recordings. > > - **Picture-in-Picture** — the second tuner could display another TV > programme in a small window while the main programme remained full- > screen. ManualsLib > > - **Network connectivity** — built-in **100 Mbps Ethernet** allowed it > to communicate with a PC or network storage. Gigaset > > - **USB 2.0** — two USB ports for external storage and peripherals. > Gigaset > > - **Network/media player** — it could play multimedia stored on a PC/ > network drive or USB disk, including **MPEG-1/MPEG-2 video, MP3 audio, > and JPEG/BMP/PNG/GIF images**. Golem > > - **PC-to-TV streaming** — the idea was that you could keep your media > on a computer elsewhere in the house and play it through the M740 AV on > your television. ManualsLib > > - **SCART connections** — two Euro-AV/SCART sockets, one intended for > the TV and another for a VCR/other AV equipment. Gigaset > > - **Digital audio** — optical/coaxial-style **S/PDIF digital audio > output** (listed as Audio Digital), plus analogue stereo RCA outputs. > Gigaset > > - **PAL television output** — designed for the analogue PAL/SCART > television environment of the period. Recambios y Accesorios Online > > - **Software updates** — firmware could be updated manually, > automatically, or via DVB-T according to the manual. ManualsLib > > ### Hardware specifications > > | Feature | M740 AV | > | --------------------- | ------------------------- | > | TV tuners | **2 × DVB-T** | > | Network | **100 Mbps Ethernet** | > | USB | **2 × USB 2.0** | > | Video/TV | **2 × SCART** | > | Analogue audio | Left/right RCA | > | Digital audio | S/PDIF | > | Internal HDD | **No** | > | External recording | USB HDD / network storage | > | Dimensions | \~200 × 200 × 66 mm | > | Weight | \~850 g | > | Power | 230 V / 50 Hz | > | Standby consumption | \~1.7 W | > | Operating consumption | \~12.5 W | > > ### What makes it interesting today > > The really interesting part is that **this wasn't simply a DVB-T > decoder**. Siemens essentially built a networked media centre around a > dual-tuner PVR. For 2004, the combination of **dual DVB-T \+ USB > recording + timeshift \+ Ethernet + network media playback** was fairly > sophisticated. CHIP+1 > > There is one major caveat today: it was designed for the **original > DVB-T era**, so its usefulness depends heavily on what digital > terrestrial television standards are currently transmitted in your area. > Modern DVB-T/T2 compatibility is a particularly important question > before assuming it can still receive today's broadcasts. > > If you're asking because **you have an M740 AV in front of you**, I > can also explain its **connections, how to use a USB hard drive with it, > what file formats it supports, and whether it's still useful with modern > Spanish DVB-T**. I have searched for information on it. This is a press release from 2004, in Spanish: <https://www.marketingdirecto.com/digital-general/digital/siemens-gigaset-m740-av-la-perfeccion-en-home-entertainment> There should be more information in German somewhere. Museum piece: <https://ceres.mcu.es/pages/ResultSearch?txtSimpleSearch=Gigaset%20M740%20AV&simpleSearch=0&hipertextSearch=1&search=simpleSelection&MuseumsSearch=&MuseumsRolSearch=11&listaMuseos=null> Google tells me that something similar could be the "Vu+ Duo 4K Lite". It says it comes blank and you have to install community firmware to make it work. Price around 350€. <https://padredefamilia.com/vu/1363-vu-duo-4k-lite> -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-24 13:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11939ek$2nklg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92038 |
>"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >>On 2026-09-23 14:11, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >>>> On 2026-09-23 09:43, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >>>>>> On 2026-09-22 14:28, Paul wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 9/21/2026 6:34 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Never had any trouble - several apps like VLC would work >>>>>> >>>>>> But generally speaking, they like to sell you the tuner, >>>>>> and the software side is a slog of multiple steps, guess >>>>>> and by golly. >>>>> >>>>> Years ago, I found digital TV on Linux a such a huge pain that I gave >>>>> up, bought a separate tuner, and ditched my TV card. >>>>> >>>>> I can't just say "Spain", then "search for any station, don't ask me >>>>> anything whatsoever". Same as I do in Windows, or with a TV set. >>>>> >>>>> Not in Linux. >>>>> >>>>> I bought a Gigaset M740 AV. It was wonderful. >>>>> >>>>> Two tuners. >>>>> >>>>> Can record or play using a samba share in the computer, or an external >>>>> hard disk plugged via USB 2. >>>>> >>>>> Can record two programs and play a third previously recorded. >>>>> >>>>> Can program things by timers or names. >>>>> >>>>> Gets the entire EPG saved on disk. >>>>> >>>>> There was a community developing improved firmwares, having a web page >>>>> doing so many things I forget. >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, the stations are now high definition, and the box no >>>>> longer works. It works, but only tunes sounds. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I bought a cheap made in China HD box for my big TV, maybe 30 USD at the time, >>>> it can record to - and playback from a USB thumb drive, 128 GB now in it. >>>> https://panteltje.nl/pub/sat_box_sizes_IXIMG_0907.JPG >>>> left the old satellite TV box, right the new one >>> >>> Yes, I have one similar. But they are not even close to the features of >>> the M740 >> >> Waht features do you mean? >> Mine can record, as times you can set, playback, sometimes I record stuff >> mosty music, or sciencewprograms an then later copy it to teh 4 TB harddisc >> also connected to teh big Samsung TV. > >The M740 could record two programs and play a recording simultaneously, >for instance. > >It could edit a recording. > >You could download a recording to the computer. > >It could automatically record all programs named "kojac" in a channel. >You could program the recordings using a web page on the computer. > >It ran Linux. Originally there was a telnet port, then a community >firmware update added ssh, I think. There was ftp and http > >And many things I have forgotten. I asked ChatGPT for a summary: > >Yes. The **Siemens Gigaset M740 AV** was quite an ambitious DVB-T >set-top box for its time (around 2004–2005). It was essentially a >**digital TV receiver \+ PVR + network/media player**, rather than just >a basic tuner. CHIP+1 > > ### Main features > > - **Dual DVB-T tuners** — two independent terrestrial digital-TV >tuners. This allowed you to **watch one channel while recording >another**, and also enabled Picture-in-Picture (PIP). ManualsLib+1 > >- **Recording to external storage** — it had **no built-in hard disk**, >but could record TV to a USB hard drive or a network drive. Recordings >were stored as MPEG-2 streams. Golem > >- **Time-shifting / timeshift** — with a suitable USB hard disk, you >could pause live TV and continue watching later. The configuration >allowed a timeshift buffer of up to **240 minutes**. ManualsLib > >- **Electronic Programme Guide (EPG)** — used programme-guide >information for navigating TV schedules and setting recordings. > >- **Picture-in-Picture** — the second tuner could display another TV >programme in a small window while the main programme remained >full-screen. ManualsLib > >- **Network connectivity** — built-in **100 Mbps Ethernet** allowed it >to communicate with a PC or network storage. Gigaset > >- **USB 2.0** — two USB ports for external storage and peripherals. Gigaset > >- **Network/media player** — it could play multimedia stored on a >PC/network drive or USB disk, including **MPEG-1/MPEG-2 video, MP3 >audio, and JPEG/BMP/PNG/GIF images**. Golem > >- **PC-to-TV streaming** — the idea was that you could keep your media >on a computer elsewhere in the house and play it through the M740 AV on >your television. ManualsLib > >- **SCART connections** — two Euro-AV/SCART sockets, one intended for >the TV and another for a VCR/other AV equipment. Gigaset > >- **Digital audio** — optical/coaxial-style **S/PDIF digital audio >output** (listed as Audio Digital), plus analogue stereo RCA outputs. >Gigaset > >- **PAL television output** — designed for the analogue PAL/SCART >television environment of the period. Recambios y Accesorios Online > >- **Software updates** — firmware could be updated manually, >automatically, or via DVB-T according to the manual. ManualsLib > > ### Hardware specifications > >| Feature | M740 AV | >| --------------------- | ------------------------- | >| TV tuners | **2 × DVB-T** | >| Network | **100 Mbps Ethernet** | >| USB | **2 × USB 2.0** | >| Video/TV | **2 × SCART** | >| Analogue audio | Left/right RCA | >| Digital audio | S/PDIF | >| Internal HDD | **No** | >| External recording | USB HDD / network storage | >| Dimensions | \~200 × 200 × 66 mm | >| Weight | \~850 g | >| Power | 230 V / 50 Hz | >| Standby consumption | \~1.7 W | >| Operating consumption | \~12.5 W | > >### What makes it interesting today > > The really interesting part is that **this wasn't simply a DVB-T >decoder**. Siemens essentially built a networked media centre around a >dual-tuner PVR. For 2004, the combination of **dual DVB-T \+ USB >recording + timeshift \+ Ethernet + network media playback** was fairly >sophisticated. CHIP+1 > > There is one major caveat today: it was designed for the **original >DVB-T era**, so its usefulness depends heavily on what digital >terrestrial television standards are currently transmitted in your area. >Modern DVB-T/T2 compatibility is a particularly important question >before assuming it can still receive today's broadcasts. > > If you're asking because **you have an M740 AV in front of you**, I >can also explain its **connections, how to use a USB hard drive with it, >what file formats it supports, and whether it's still useful with modern >Spanish DVB-T**. It is impressive, but dbb-t is dead here now, all dvb-t2 The liite Chinese box for terrestial TV I use can do timeshift too, althoug I never use that It has an Ethernet interface and HDMI connector, even analog audio and video out. Even has a main power connector (no wll-wart needed. The even smaller Chinese satellite box had only HDMI out and needs a wall-wart but accepts a USB memory stick. Happy with both. Editing I can do if needed by taking that USB memory stick and putting it in a PC (Raspberry here). When its memory stick gets full, I copy/move stuff to the 4 TB harddisc so it has space again create a subdirectory, last one satellite_6/ as you can see below raspberrypi: /mnt/sda2/video # l total 16847468 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Jan 21 2012 movies/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 23 2019 hcam/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3677094 Dec 24 2021 Non_Je_Ne_Regrette_Rien_Lyrics__Edith_Piaf.mp4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6092358417 Jul 1 2022 captain_ron.ps -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5596384752 Jul 1 2022 captain_ron.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5441710080 Jul 1 2022 captain_ron.mpg -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10895713 Jun 30 2023 wichita_lineman__Glen_Campbell.mp4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8642256 Oct 9 2023 The_Village_Stompers_Washington_Square.mp4 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Mar 24 2024 dvb_t2/ drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 20480 May 25 2024 satellite/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 Sep 19 2024 backups/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 Feb 5 2025 satellite_2/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 20480 Mar 16 2025 satellite_3/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 16384 Nov 2 2025 satellite_4/ -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16573854 Jul 22 09:08 sade_smooth_operator_official_1984.mp4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23390265 Aug 7 10:42 Earth_and_Fire__Storm_And_Thunder_1972.mp4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 48580293 Aug 7 10:44 Earth_and_Fire__Memories.mp4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9434443 Aug 7 11:12 Earth_and_Fire__Maybe_Tomorrow_Maybe_Tonight.mp4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 Sep 13 19:16 satellite_5/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 Sep 17 18:13 satellite_6/ raspberrypi: /mnt/sda2/video # BTW 'l' stands for ls -rtl on my system (zsh config): l /mnt/sda2/video/satellite_6/ total 89350240 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 63625216 Nov 2 2025 a.glass.of.champagne.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 47935488 Nov 3 2025 lola.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39272448 Nov 3 2025 when.you're.in.love.with.a.beaut.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 30031872 Nov 3 2025 i.think.we're.alone.now.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20983808 Nov 3 2025 sealed.with.a.kiss.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24641536 Nov 3 2025 we.got.to.get.out.of.this.place.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13187072 Nov 7 2025 i.got.you.babe.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13090816 Nov 7 2025 love.of.the.common.people.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22908928 Nov 9 2025 all.i.have.to.do.is.dream.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20213760 Nov 10 2025 who.are.you.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23775232 Nov 10 2025 callow.la.vita.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 38887424 Nov 10 2025 california.girls.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28299264 Nov 10 2025 it's.not.unusual.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20598784 Nov 10 2025 horse.with.no.name.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7989248 Nov 11 2025 the.logical.song.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22523904 Nov 11 2025 bad.moon.rising.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 65069056 Nov 11 2025 daydream..learning.to.fly.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22235136 Nov 13 2025 dancing.on.the.ceiling.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 78256128 Nov 13 2025 i.think.we're.alone.now.2.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2681788416 Nov 13 2025 arte.brazil.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 35325952 Nov 15 2025 three.times.a.lady.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 56983552 Nov 17 2025 baracuda.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28684288 Nov 18 2025 rocking.all.over.the.world.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4294942720 Nov 18 2025 music.1.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4208023552 Nov 18 2025 music.2.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4139008 Nov 23 2025 tonight.i.celebrate.my.love.for..ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1553860608 Nov 25 2025 the.repair.shop.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12032000 Nov 30 2025 lovers.of.the.world.unite.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 223602688 Dec 7 2025 zonne.pillen.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4294942720 Dec 7 2025 old.medicin.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33593344 Dec 24 2025 this.time.i.now.it's.for.real.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24064000 Dec 25 2025 alone.on.christmas.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5005312 Dec 26 2025 my.life.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26277888 Dec 29 2025 jail.house.rock.queen.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12898304 Dec 30 2025 sound.of.silence..bruce.scott.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 45721600 Jan 1 2026 don't.play.your.rock'n'roll.to.m.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 54865920 Jan 2 2026 you're.so.vain.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27721728 Jan 5 2026 t.rex..20th.century.boy.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2343352320 Jan 7 2026 mars.perseverence.rover.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21368832 Jan 13 2026 i.feel.love..donna.summer.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 37347328 Jan 13 2026 barselona..freddy..mercury.2.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 48320512 Jan 13 2026 boogie.wonderland..earth.wind.an.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 47742976 Jan 13 2026 go.west..village.people.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 49860608 Jan 19 2026 the.chain..fleetwood.mac.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 52555776 Jan 20 2026 2000.century.boy.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 35518464 Jan 22 2026 spinning.around..kylie.minogue.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25700352 Jan 22 2026 green.door.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4294942720 Jan 24 2026 beta.verval.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4294942720 Jan 24 2026 manetismus.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 37828608 Jan 25 2026 graceland..paul.simon.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13668352 Jan 28 2026 islands.in.the.stream.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1571282944 Jan 29 2026 atmosphere.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 52652032 Jan 30 2026 proud.mary..turner.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23005184 Feb 3 2026 these.are.the.days.of.our.life...ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2956888064 Feb 5 2026 quantum.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 35422208 Feb 6 2026 st.elmo's.fire.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 43507712 Feb 6 2026 hotel.california.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 48416768 Feb 6 2026 sweet.dreams.are.made.of.this.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6449152 Feb 9 2026 turn.turn.turn..the.byrds.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 57849856 Feb 9 2026 the.ballroom.blitz..sweet.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 37636096 Feb 9 2026 hold.on.tight..elo.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26566656 Feb 13 2026 every.body's.talkin'.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Feb 13 2026 DMAX-2026-02-13\ 12-15-00.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28010496 Feb 13 2026 smooth.operator.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70170624 Feb 13 2026 chain.reaction..diana.ross.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 119838720 Feb 15 2026 ginger.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16748544 Feb 15 2026 wild.world.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13668352 Feb 17 2026 i'm.into.something.good.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5101568 Feb 17 2026 break.away..beach.boys.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16363520 Feb 18 2026 gimme.some.lovin'.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8663040 Feb 18 2026 go.now..moody.blues.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19347456 Feb 18 2026 god.only.knows..the.beach.boys.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5582848 Feb 22 2026 my.boy.lollipop.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24737792 Feb 22 2026 suger.pie.honey.bunch.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6641664 Feb 27 2026 bend.me.shape.me.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20791296 Feb 28 2026 how.deep.is.your.love..bee.g's.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11069440 Feb 28 2026 cream.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2802974720 Mar 3 2026 to.mars..super.rockets..de.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25122816 Mar 8 2026 neil.diamond..i.am.sad.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4294942720 Mar 9 2026 sea.adler.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 46202880 Mar 9 2026 let's.dance...heart.of.gold..nei.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 46780416 Mar 10 2026 september..earth.wind.and.fire.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24641536 Mar 10 2026 do.you.want.to.dance.the.ramones.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10684416 Mar 11 2026 if.you.can't.give.me.love..quatr.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28010496 Mar 11 2026 gimme.shelter..stones.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 47742976 Mar 11 2026 atomic.kitten..the.tide.is.high.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36384768 Mar 13 2026 kim.wilde..you.came.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20406272 Mar 13 2026 racy..lay.your.love.on.me.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1400236032 Mar 13 2026 lynx.kf46.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23005184 Mar 14 2026 atomic.kitten..whole.again.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36096000 Mar 14 2026 mud..tigerfeet.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 48609280 Mar 18 2026 i.want.to.be.free..queen.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15785984 Mar 18 2026 annie's.song..john.denver.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4207734784 Mar 19 2026 poison.under.water.creatures.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11550720 Mar 19 2026 let.your.love.flow.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32630784 Mar 19 2026 pretty.belinda..chris.andrews.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16941056 Mar 21 2026 paloma.blanco.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 56309760 Mar 21 2026 on.the.road.again..canned.heat.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22235136 Mar 21 2026 the.smurf.song.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 94715904 Mar 21 2026 over.and.over.again..dave.clark..ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 74694656 Mar 21 2026 let.it.be..not.at.easter.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36673536 Mar 24 2026 pussycat..mississippi.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10684416 Mar 28 11:29 this.time.i.know.its.for.real..d.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 17422336 Apr 4 15:30 oxygene.pt4.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 52844544 Apr 4 17:16 unchained.melody..garret.gates.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 41390080 Apr 4 17:25 evergreen..will.young.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 36962304 Apr 4 17:30 the.lion.sleeps.tonight.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 30513152 Apr 4 17:39 i.feel.love..donna.summer.2.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14053376 Apr 8 16:59 sultans.of.swing..dire.straigts.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 56213504 Apr 8 17:10 hotel.california..eagles.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 88459264 Apr 13 09:43 we.can.work.it.out...look.throug.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 69496832 Apr 13 09:53 build.me.up.buttercup.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 70940672 Apr 13 10:07 a.day.without.love..love.afair.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 45625344 Apr 13 11:49 lazy.sunday.afternoon..small.fac.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24352768 Apr 13 11:56 make.me.smile.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6064128 Apr 13 12:00 lazy.sunday..small.faces.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 44374016 Apr 13 12:05 bye.bye.baby...oh.boy..mud.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11069440 Apr 17 12:04 my.life..billy.joel.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 58427392 Apr 18 16:27 pink.floyd..brick.in.the.wall.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19828736 Apr 19 17:10 rock.your.baby..george.mccrae.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 52267008 Apr 21 15:43 earth.wind.and.fire.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2688815104 Apr 25 18:21 music.3.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31668224 May 4 16:56 these.are.the.days.of.our.lives..ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4164708352 May 5 18:50 fuckupshima.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 40331264 May 6 15:40 good.vibrations..beach.boys.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14534656 May 8 18:05 jeans.on..david.dundas.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1175863296 May 13 15:04 koolstof.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20021248 May 15 16:08 bridge.over.troubled.water.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27721728 May 20 15:12 rock.your.baby..mc.crae.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 38694912 May 24 10:45 st.elmo's.fire.2.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9721856 May 28 13:24 Xpanded\ TV..hot.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31283200 May 28 18:08 you.to.me.are.everything..the.re.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 37924864 May 29 16:05 you.the.on.that.i.want..travolta.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4294942720 May 30 17:15 supernovas.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21946368 Jun 1 14:41 i.can.see.cleary.now..j.nash.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12609536 Jun 1 14:54 scate.dance.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 34555904 Jun 1 15:09 chariots.of.fire..vangelis.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3272704 Jun 3 16:58 brown.girl.in.the.ring..boney.m.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15400960 Jun 5 17:03 you.really.got.me.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 46299136 Jun 5 17:07 house.in.new.orleans.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4294942720 Jun 8 10:54 origen.water..dark.matter.1.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4294942720 Jun 8 11:36 dark.matter.2..exo.planets.1.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4294942720 Jun 8 12:19 exoplanets.2.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24352768 Jun 9 14:09 yellow.river.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 11839488 Jun 10 14:24 i.will.always.love.you..whitney.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15304704 Jun 10 14:49 do.you.want.to.dance.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jun 12 15:05 N24\ DOKU-2026-06-12\ 14-07-00.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16171008 Jun 15 14:27 boyzone..a.different.beat.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33978368 Jun 17 16:13 a.good.heart..feargal.sharkey.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16844800 Jun 20 12:47 little.lies..fleetwood.mac.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8759296 Jun 20 13:18 my.coo.co.choo..alvin.stardust.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3364628480 Jun 22 18:01 black.pepper.route.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1226108928 Jun 23 14:05 life.on.mars..levin.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20117504 Jul 2 18:11 everwhere..fleetwood.mac.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5294080 Jul 5 13:27 toothpaste.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 27240448 Jul 11 16:44 show.me.the.way..frampton.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20310016 Jul 11 16:47 let.your.love.flow.2.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 34555904 Jul 13 08:43 we.are.stardust..woodstock.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 71229440 Jul 13 09:40 maggie.may..rod.stuward.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 46684160 Jul 13 09:44 cuz.i.love.you..slade.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20213760 Jul 13 09:54 i.like.to.teach.the.world.to.sin.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33978368 Jul 13 09:58 telegram.sam..t.rex.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 42160128 Jul 13 10:44 dingeling..chuck.berry.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 64684032 Jul 13 14:19 save.your.kisses.for.me.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 46299136 Jul 13 17:48 y.m.c.a..village.people.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23390208 Jul 13 17:53 hold.on.tight..electric.light.or.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19828736 Jul 16 14:26 age.of.aquarius.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 18384896 Jul 16 14:33 young.girl.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20887552 Jul 17 14:25 handle.with.care..the.traveling..ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2788632576 Jul 26 11:06 black.holes.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1424107520 Jul 30 16:00 galaxies.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20598784 Jul 30 17:09 bright.eyes..art.garfunkel.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32534528 Aug 3 15:16 streets.of.londen.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 37443584 Aug 3 15:18 mister.postman..carpenters.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 33208320 Aug 3 15:22 honey..bobby.goldsboro.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1654640640 Aug 6 12:25 ariane.rocket.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 66416640 Aug 7 07:54 sani.skin..genius.de.tiktuur.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 524787712 Aug 8 15:00 ticks..hair.regrow.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1389744128 Aug 11 21:15 iss.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 55058432 Aug 17 17:15 rivers.of.babylon..boney.m.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19828736 Aug 18 16:02 kelly.marie.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21946368 Aug 18 16:08 the.nolans.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 95004672 Aug 25 16:23 you.the.one.that.i.want...we.go..ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 30705664 Aug 25 16:26 a.brick.in.the.wall..pink.floid.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 21657600 Aug 26 14:30 california.dreaming.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23486464 Aug 26 14:39 delilah..tom.jones.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20983808 Aug 26 14:41 these.arms.of.mine..otis.redding.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 20695040 Aug 26 14:44 daydream.believer..the.monkees.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16748544 Aug 26 14:47 the.view..same.jeans.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 24834048 Aug 26 14:50 calendar.girl..neil.sedaka.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 14534656 Aug 26 15:02 you.realy.got.me..the.kinks.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 42641408 Aug 26 15:06 there.is.a.house.in.new.orleans.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3131496448 Aug 27 19:15 quantum.world.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39946240 Aug 28 17:21 is.this.the.way.to.amarillo.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 35807232 Aug 28 17:25 telegram.sam.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 29743104 Aug 28 17:37 can.the.can..suzi.quatro.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9721856 Sep 1 17:28 rose.garden..lynn.anderson.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31283200 Sep 9 10:16 wishing.on.a.star..rose.royce.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28010496 Sep 9 10:21 baker.street.ts -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10010624 Sep 10 15:30 daddy.cool.ts Lots of music from satellite! Some science programs too And that directory is ony about from one year (from November 2025) goes back way back. /mnt/sda2/video/satellite_1/ goes even further back. And then I also copy it to the 4 TB harddisc conected to the huge Samsung HD TV. Just select it with the remote if I want to see it. > > >> Or a bit longer ago to DVD or blueray, or M-Disc >> more than 1000 discs here, this is box 1 with 1000 discs: >> https://panteltje.nl/pub/CD_box_binnenkant_IXIMG_0549.JPG >> Holds old Linux distros too :-) >> >> >> >>>> Things get ever smaller.. >>>> Mostly satellite reception here, >>>> have an other made in China box for the local TV stations >>>> But the TV can do the reception by itself, is merely used as HDMI monitor, >>>> As I have a big steerable satellie dish that draws a bit of power when moving >>>> I prefer to use the boxes to drive the satellitedish motor, >>>> that ways protecting my expensive TV >>>> Anyways it all works perfectly, whole world on my TV with that movable dish. >>>> >>>> >>>> I have several RTL_SDR sticks in use, some record my outside weather sensor, >>>> some airplane traffic, some ship traffic, some ham radio and TV, >>>> https://panteltje.online/pub/boats_and_planes.gif >>>> >>>> Use thse for spectrum analyzer too: >>>> https://panteltje.nl/pub/radar_spectrum_sidebands.gif >>>> >>>> I write all that software myself, do use some libraries of course, >>>> open source much of it,Downloads here: >>>> https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/newsflex/download.html >>>> >>>> rtl_sdr sticks can ever receive GPS >>> >>> >>> Cute :-) Was in 2012... time flies... http://michelebavaro.blogspot.com/2012/04/spring-news-in-gnss-and-sdr-domain.html https://panteltje.nl/pub/run_50_outside_2728000.gif Normally I use small ebay GPS modules that support several GPS systems, GLONAS etc. >>> Most of my entertainment comes via fibre nowdays. >> >> Yes they wanted me to get a fiber subscription too. >> But no way >> >> For Internet at home and away I use a Huawei 4G USB stick, >> now plugged into this Raspberry Pi4 8Gb I am posting this from, >> when away I can put it in my Samsung laptop. >> >> Fiber on the road ? no. >> >> The rest here is satellite. >> One big advantage of satellite is that the 'fiber guys' will determine what >> you can see (they get much from satellite but pick the channels they forward). >> I can get stations from all over the world and viewpoints from all over the >> world via satellite. >> > >Aha. I had cable when Reagan was US president, wanted to watch him speak, but the cable company went to bed at that late hour (time difference with Europe) and switched the channel off.. These days in the Netherlands they block rtl.com on internet (typing rt.com in the bropwser says something like 'URL not available') Easy to get past it, just modify /etc/resolv.conf to use the google nameserver: raspberrypi: ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 Then it works
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-24 20:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <rc7gomx9bk.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #92086 |
On 2026-09-24 15:43, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >>> On 2026-09-23 14:11, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >>>>> On 2026-09-23 09:43, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >>>>>>> On 2026-09-22 14:28, Paul wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 9/21/2026 6:34 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Never had any trouble - several apps like VLC would work >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But generally speaking, they like to sell you the tuner, >>>>>>> and the software side is a slog of multiple steps, guess >>>>>>> and by golly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Years ago, I found digital TV on Linux a such a huge pain that I gave >>>>>> up, bought a separate tuner, and ditched my TV card. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can't just say "Spain", then "search for any station, don't ask me >>>>>> anything whatsoever". Same as I do in Windows, or with a TV set. >>>>>> >>>>>> Not in Linux. >>>>>> >>>>>> I bought a Gigaset M740 AV. It was wonderful. >>>>>> >>>>>> Two tuners. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can record or play using a samba share in the computer, or an external >>>>>> hard disk plugged via USB 2. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can record two programs and play a third previously recorded. >>>>>> >>>>>> Can program things by timers or names. >>>>>> >>>>>> Gets the entire EPG saved on disk. >>>>>> >>>>>> There was a community developing improved firmwares, having a web page >>>>>> doing so many things I forget. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately, the stations are now high definition, and the box no >>>>>> longer works. It works, but only tunes sounds. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I bought a cheap made in China HD box for my big TV, maybe 30 USD at the time, >>>>> it can record to - and playback from a USB thumb drive, 128 GB now in it. >>>>> https://panteltje.nl/pub/sat_box_sizes_IXIMG_0907.JPG >>>>> left the old satellite TV box, right the new one >>>> >>>> Yes, I have one similar. But they are not even close to the features of >>>> the M740 >>> >>> Waht features do you mean? >>> Mine can record, as times you can set, playback, sometimes I record stuff >>> mosty music, or sciencewprograms an then later copy it to teh 4 TB harddisc >>> also connected to teh big Samsung TV. >> >> The M740 could record two programs and play a recording simultaneously, >> for instance. >> >> It could edit a recording. >> >> You could download a recording to the computer. >> >> It could automatically record all programs named "kojac" in a channel. >> You could program the recordings using a web page on the computer. >> >> It ran Linux. Originally there was a telnet port, then a community >> firmware update added ssh, I think. There was ftp and http >> >> And many things I have forgotten. I asked ChatGPT for a summary: >> >> Yes. The **Siemens Gigaset M740 AV** was quite an ambitious DVB-T >> set-top box for its time (around 2004–2005). It was essentially a >> **digital TV receiver \+ PVR + network/media player**, rather than just >> a basic tuner. CHIP+1 >> >> ### Main features >> >> - **Dual DVB-T tuners** — two independent terrestrial digital-TV >> tuners. This allowed you to **watch one channel while recording >> another**, and also enabled Picture-in-Picture (PIP). ManualsLib+1 >> >> - **Recording to external storage** — it had **no built-in hard disk**, >> but could record TV to a USB hard drive or a network drive. Recordings >> were stored as MPEG-2 streams. Golem >> >> - **Time-shifting / timeshift** — with a suitable USB hard disk, you >> could pause live TV and continue watching later. The configuration >> allowed a timeshift buffer of up to **240 minutes**. ManualsLib >> >> - **Electronic Programme Guide (EPG)** — used programme-guide >> information for navigating TV schedules and setting recordings. >> >> - **Picture-in-Picture** — the second tuner could display another TV >> programme in a small window while the main programme remained >> full-screen. ManualsLib >> >> - **Network connectivity** — built-in **100 Mbps Ethernet** allowed it >> to communicate with a PC or network storage. Gigaset >> >> - **USB 2.0** — two USB ports for external storage and peripherals. Gigaset >> >> - **Network/media player** — it could play multimedia stored on a >> PC/network drive or USB disk, including **MPEG-1/MPEG-2 video, MP3 >> audio, and JPEG/BMP/PNG/GIF images**. Golem >> >> - **PC-to-TV streaming** — the idea was that you could keep your media >> on a computer elsewhere in the house and play it through the M740 AV on >> your television. ManualsLib >> >> - **SCART connections** — two Euro-AV/SCART sockets, one intended for >> the TV and another for a VCR/other AV equipment. Gigaset >> >> - **Digital audio** — optical/coaxial-style **S/PDIF digital audio >> output** (listed as Audio Digital), plus analogue stereo RCA outputs. >> Gigaset >> >> - **PAL television output** — designed for the analogue PAL/SCART >> television environment of the period. Recambios y Accesorios Online >> >> - **Software updates** — firmware could be updated manually, >> automatically, or via DVB-T according to the manual. ManualsLib >> >> ### Hardware specifications >> >> | Feature | M740 AV | >> | --------------------- | ------------------------- | >> | TV tuners | **2 × DVB-T** | >> | Network | **100 Mbps Ethernet** | >> | USB | **2 × USB 2.0** | >> | Video/TV | **2 × SCART** | >> | Analogue audio | Left/right RCA | >> | Digital audio | S/PDIF | >> | Internal HDD | **No** | >> | External recording | USB HDD / network storage | >> | Dimensions | \~200 × 200 × 66 mm | >> | Weight | \~850 g | >> | Power | 230 V / 50 Hz | >> | Standby consumption | \~1.7 W | >> | Operating consumption | \~12.5 W | >> >> ### What makes it interesting today >> >> The really interesting part is that **this wasn't simply a DVB-T >> decoder**. Siemens essentially built a networked media centre around a >> dual-tuner PVR. For 2004, the combination of **dual DVB-T \+ USB >> recording + timeshift \+ Ethernet + network media playback** was fairly >> sophisticated. CHIP+1 >> >> There is one major caveat today: it was designed for the **original >> DVB-T era**, so its usefulness depends heavily on what digital >> terrestrial television standards are currently transmitted in your area. >> Modern DVB-T/T2 compatibility is a particularly important question >> before assuming it can still receive today's broadcasts. >> >> If you're asking because **you have an M740 AV in front of you**, I >> can also explain its **connections, how to use a USB hard drive with it, >> what file formats it supports, and whether it's still useful with modern >> Spanish DVB-T**. > > It is impressive, but dbb-t is dead here now, all dvb-t2 > The liite Chinese box for terrestial TV I use can do timeshift too, althoug I never use that > It has an Ethernet interface and HDMI connector, even analog audio and video out. > Even has a main power connector (no wll-wart needed. > I have a relatively cheap box on another place, I don't remember the name. [...] Probably a "Fonestar RDT-761HD Receptor/Grabador TDT2 ". Yes, it can do timeshift, after I click something to activate it. And then it can not activate a recording. Sometimes it does not work and the program is lost. On the 740, timeshift was always active. And then, an hour later, you could activate the recording of the entire thing, past and future, as long as I had stayed in the same channel the whole time. > > The even smaller Chinese satellite box had only HDMI out and needs a wall-wart > but accepts a USB memory stick. > Happy with both. > > Editing I can do if needed by taking that USB memory stick and putting it in a PC (Raspberry here). > When its memory stick gets full, I copy/move stuff to the 4 TB harddisc so it has space again > create a subdirectory, last one satellite_6/ as you can see below > > raspberrypi: /mnt/sda2/video # l > total 16847468 > drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Jan 21 2012 movies/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 23 2019 hcam/ > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3677094 Dec 24 2021 Non_Je_Ne_Regrette_Rien_Lyrics__Edith_Piaf.mp4 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6092358417 Jul 1 2022 captain_ron.ps > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5596384752 Jul 1 2022 captain_ron.ts > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5441710080 Jul 1 2022 captain_ron.mpg > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10895713 Jun 30 2023 wichita_lineman__Glen_Campbell.mp4 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8642256 Oct 9 2023 The_Village_Stompers_Washington_Square.mp4 > drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Mar 24 2024 dvb_t2/ > drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 20480 May 25 2024 satellite/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 Sep 19 2024 backups/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 Feb 5 2025 satellite_2/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 20480 Mar 16 2025 satellite_3/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 16384 Nov 2 2025 satellite_4/ > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16573854 Jul 22 09:08 sade_smooth_operator_official_1984.mp4 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 23390265 Aug 7 10:42 Earth_and_Fire__Storm_And_Thunder_1972.mp4 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 48580293 Aug 7 10:44 Earth_and_Fire__Memories.mp4 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9434443 Aug 7 11:12 Earth_and_Fire__Maybe_Tomorrow_Maybe_Tonight.mp4 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 Sep 13 19:16 satellite_5/ > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 12288 Sep 17 18:13 satellite_6/ > raspberrypi: /mnt/sda2/video # > > BTW 'l' stands for ls -rtl on my system (zsh config): > > l /mnt/sda2/video/satellite_6/ > total 89350240 > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 63625216 Nov 2 2025 a.glass.of.champagne.ts > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 47935488 Nov 3 2025 lola.ts > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 39272448 Nov 3 2025 when.you're.in.love.with.a.beaut.ts > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 30031872 Nov 3 2025 i.think.we're.alone.now.ts ... > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 29743104 Aug 28 17:37 can.the.can..suzi.quatro.ts > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9721856 Sep 1 17:28 rose.garden..lynn.anderson.ts > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 31283200 Sep 9 10:16 wishing.on.a.star..rose.royce.ts > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 28010496 Sep 9 10:21 baker.street.ts > -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10010624 Sep 10 15:30 daddy.cool.ts > > > Lots of music from satellite! > Some science programs too > And that directory is ony about from one year (from November 2025) > goes back way back. > /mnt/sda2/video/satellite_1/ > goes even further back. > And then I also copy it to the 4 TB harddisc conected to the huge Samsung HD TV. > Just select it with the remote if I want to see it. > > > ... > >>> Fiber on the road ? no. >>> >>> The rest here is satellite. >>> One big advantage of satellite is that the 'fiber guys' will determine what >>> you can see (they get much from satellite but pick the channels they forward). >>> I can get stations from all over the world and viewpoints from all over the >>> world via satellite. >>> >> >> Aha. > > I had cable when Reagan was US president, wanted to watch him speak, > but the cable company went to bed at that late hour (time difference with Europe) > and switched the channel off.. > These days in the Netherlands they block rtl.com on internet > (typing rt.com in the bropwser says something like 'URL not available') > > Easy to get past it, just modify /etc/resolv.conf to use the google nameserver: > raspberrypi: ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf > nameserver 8.8.8.8 > nameserver 8.8.4.4 > > Then it works > I checked now, it does not work for me. Probably using the ISP DNS. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 06:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11955mf$3blhl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92092 |
>"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >> and switched the channel off.. >> These days in the Netherlands they block rt.com on internet >> (typing rt.com in the browser says something like 'URL not available') >> >> Easy to get past it, just modify /etc/resolv.conf to use the google nameserver: >> raspberrypi: ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf >> nameserver 8.8.8.8 >> nameserver 8.8.4.4 >> >> Then it works >> > >I checked now, it does not work for me. Probably using the ISP DNS. Yes, that is what they do to control what you see, they could actually send you to any fake website that way. Are you running Linux, and changed /etc/resolve.conf like shown above and then tried again?
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 09:24 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1195b4m$3d3g7$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92121 |
On 25/09/2026 07:51, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >>> and switched the channel off.. > >>> These days in the Netherlands they block rt.com on internet >>> (typing rt.com in the browser says something like 'URL not available') >>> >>> Easy to get past it, just modify /etc/resolv.conf to use the google nameserver: >>> raspberrypi: ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf >>> nameserver 8.8.8.8 >>> nameserver 8.8.4.4 >>> >>> Then it works >>> >> >> I checked now, it does not work for me. Probably using the ISP DNS. > > Yes, that is what they do to control what you see, > they could actually send you to any fake website that way. > Are you running Linux, and changed /etc/resolve.conf like shown above > and then tried again? > > That's why I run two on-site DNS servers (BIND) that use the root servers -- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as foolish, and by the rulers as useful. (Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 12:11 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <6vthomxmvl.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #92121 |
On 2026-09-25 08:51, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >>> and switched the channel off.. > >>> These days in the Netherlands they block rt.com on internet >>> (typing rt.com in the browser says something like 'URL not available') >>> >>> Easy to get past it, just modify /etc/resolv.conf to use the google nameserver: >>> raspberrypi: ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf >>> nameserver 8.8.8.8 >>> nameserver 8.8.4.4 >>> >>> Then it works >>> >> >> I checked now, it does not work for me. Probably using the ISP DNS. > > Yes, that is what they do to control what you see, > they could actually send you to any fake website that way. > Are you running Linux, and changed /etc/resolve.conf like shown above > and then tried again? Not that simple, I run dnsmasq on this computer. And it asks another computer using bind. If I were interested in reading that site I would do something, otherwise I don't bother. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 11:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1195hqd$3ef2u$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92135 |
On 25/09/2026 11:11, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-09-25 08:51, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >>>> and switched the channel off.. >> >>>> These days in the Netherlands they block rt.com on internet >>>> (typing rt.com in the browser says something like 'URL not >>>> available') >>>> >>>> Easy to get past it, just modify /etc/resolv.conf to use the google >>>> nameserver: >>>> raspberrypi: ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf >>>> nameserver 8.8.8.8 >>>> nameserver 8.8.4.4 >>>> >>>> Then it works >>>> >>> >>> I checked now, it does not work for me. Probably using the ISP DNS. >> >> Yes, that is what they do to control what you see, >> they could actually send you to any fake website that way. >> Are you running Linux, and changed /etc/resolve.conf like shown above >> and then tried again? > > Not that simple, I run dnsmasq on this computer. And it asks another > computer using bind. > > If I were interested in reading that site I would do something, > otherwise I don't bother. > Odd. Works for me in UK. Wall to wall Russian lies of course. "Britain’s elites want you ready to die for a war they keep imagining" etc etc -- The New Left are the people they warned you about.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 12:41 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <jnvhomxidt.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #92136 |
On 2026-09-25 12:18, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 25/09/2026 11:11, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2026-09-25 08:51, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote:
>>>>> and switched the channel off..
>>>
>>>>> These days in the Netherlands they block rt.com on internet
>>>>> (typing rt.com in the browser says something like 'URL not
>>>>> available')
>>>>>
>>>>> Easy to get past it, just modify /etc/resolv.conf to use the google
>>>>> nameserver:
>>>>> raspberrypi: ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf
>>>>> nameserver 8.8.8.8
>>>>> nameserver 8.8.4.4
>>>>>
>>>>> Then it works
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I checked now, it does not work for me. Probably using the ISP DNS.
>>>
>>> Yes, that is what they do to control what you see,
>>> they could actually send you to any fake website that way.
>>> Are you running Linux, and changed /etc/resolve.conf like shown above
>>> and then tried again?
>>
>> Not that simple, I run dnsmasq on this computer. And it asks another
>> computer using bind.
>>
>> If I were interested in reading that site I would do something,
>> otherwise I don't bother.
>>
> Odd. Works for me in UK. Wall to wall Russian lies of course.
>
> "Britain’s elites want you ready to die for a war they keep imagining"
> etc etc
>
dnsmask:
server=/valinor/192.168.1.16
server=80.58.61.250
server=80.58.61.254
server=2a02:9000::aaaa
server=2a02:9000::bbbb
server=1.1.1.1
server=1.0.0.1
then bind:
forwarders { 80.58.61.250; 2a02:9000::aaaa ; 1.1.1.1; 80.58.61.254; 2a02:9000::bbbb ; 1.0.0.1; };
Can I use 8.8.8.8? Sure, then google tracks me better.
The quick solution for me is to use tor, if interested.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 11:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nhn2cpFb0lpU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92136 |
The Natural Philosopher wrote: > Jan Panteltje wrote: > >> These days in the Netherlands they block rt.com on internet (typing >> rt.com in the browser says something like 'URL not available') > > Odd. Works for me in UK. Wall to wall Russian lies of course. Plusnet's DNS (and presumably all BT/OR ISPs?) block rt.con, google quad8 doesn't, cloudflare quad1 doesn't, quad9 foundation doesn't
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 12:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1195n28$3hpnr$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92140 |
On 25/09/2026 11:57, Andy Burns wrote: > The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> Jan Panteltje wrote: >> >>> These days in the Netherlands they block rt.com on internet (typing >>> rt.com in the browser says something like 'URL not available') >> >> Odd. Works for me in UK. Wall to wall Russian lies of course. > > Plusnet's DNS (and presumably all BT/OR ISPs?) block rt.con, RT.con? Freudian slip? google > quad8 doesn't, cloudflare quad1 doesn't, quad9 foundation doesn't > Root servers do not, either... -- “Some people like to travel by train because it combines the slowness of a car with the cramped public exposure of an airplane.” Dennis Miller
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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 14:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <119609a$3lffm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92136 |
>The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>wrote: >>On 25/09/2026 11:11, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-09-25 08:51, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >>>>> and switched the channel off.. >>> >>>>> These days in the Netherlands they block rt.com on internet >>>>> (typing rt.com in the browser says something like 'URL not >>>>> available') >>>>> >>>>> Easy to get past it, just modify /etc/resolv.conf to use the google >>>>> nameserver: >>>>> raspberrypi: ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf >>>>> nameserver 8.8.8.8 >>>>> nameserver 8.8.4.4 >>>>> >>>>> Then it works >>>>> >>>> >>>> I checked now, it does not work for me. Probably using the ISP DNS. >>> >>> Yes, that is what they do to control what you see, >>> they could actually send you to any fake website that way. >>> Are you running Linux, and changed /etc/resolve.conf like shown above >>> and then tried again? >> >> Not that simple, I run dnsmasq on this computer. And it asks another >> computer using bind. >> >> If I were interested in reading that site I would do something, >> otherwise I don't bother. >> >Odd. Works for me in UK. Wall to wall Russian lies of course. Not really and not as bad as what streams out of the war house ape. >"Britain’s elites want you ready to die for a war they keep imagining" >etc etc Yes, they need jobs, so war creates jobs UK is not doing well financially, especially after leaving the EU. But EU with Van der Lying or whatever that women's is, clearly plays the same game business giving money to defense to build destructive weapons Strange they give money to YouCrane and sanction Russia, while it is YouCrane (well US CIA work's 'lensky is a CIA clown) that blew p North-stream 2 pipeline making gas much more expensive for many Europeans and forcing them to buy YouAsh fuel, see the CIA plot? In Germany, AFD party now getting ever bigger, they are for better relations with Russia, so am I. The people are fed up with the YouAsh's (it soon will be that) games of making war using unrest triggered by SeeEyeA agents just to sell their crap weapons (F35 flew over this morning dangerous noise so loud, what a piece of shit the F35 is!!! You need no radar, 2 less than 1 dollar electret mikes can locate it . Stealth??? with that noise?, and the poor govs buy it.
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