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Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug

Started by"anonymous" <anonymous@rip.ax.lt>
First post2019-06-16 07:53 -0500
Last post2019-06-25 15:11 +0200
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  Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "anonymous" <anonymous@rip.ax.lt> - 2019-06-16 07:53 -0500
    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Anonymous" <nobody@mixmin.net> - 2019-06-16 07:56 -0500
    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Fenris <fenris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-16 15:53 +0200
      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-16 15:35 +0100
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-06-16 15:30 +0000
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-16 16:53 -0400
      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "School of Agriculture" <ag@hick.edu> - 2019-06-17 14:35 -0500
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-17 20:42 +0100
          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-17 17:31 -0400
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-18 14:13 +0100
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-06-17 20:30 +0000
          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-17 23:11 +0200
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-17 17:36 -0400
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-17 18:27 -0400
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-18 08:45 +0200
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-06-18 23:58 +0000
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-18 21:42 -0400
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-06-19 18:23 +0000
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 23:06 +0200
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug rlhamil@bigapple.pri (Richard L. Hamilton) - 2019-06-22 01:00 +0000
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-19 07:49 +0100
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 10:12 +0200
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-17 20:30 +0000
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Anonymous" <nobody@mixmin.net> - 2019-06-18 07:04 -0500
          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Fenris <fenris@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-18 14:18 +0200
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-18 14:17 +0100
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-06-18 08:52 -0500
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-06-20 05:57 +0000
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2019-06-20 07:05 -0500
                    Using 'sed' to delete a line from a file (Was: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-20 12:32 +0000
                      Re: Using 'sed' to delete a line from a file (Was: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug) Shehu Dikko <unreachable@destination.invalid> - 2019-06-20 17:30 +0100
                      Re: Using 'sed' to delete a line from a file (Was: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug) Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-20 12:17 -0600
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Anonymous" <anon@anon.com> - 2019-06-20 08:31 -0500
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Anonymous" <anon@anon.com> - 2019-06-20 08:33 -0500
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Anonymous" <anon@anon.com> - 2019-06-20 08:42 -0500
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2019-06-18 20:12 +0000
    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-06-16 11:57 -0500
      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-06-16 21:28 +0200
        How come we're not talking about (Was: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2019-06-16 20:12 +0000
          Re: How come we're not talking about (Was: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug) Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-16 22:52 +0200
          Re: How come we're not talking about (Was: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug) "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-06-17 06:52 +0200
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-16 22:47 +0200
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛 <root@127.0.0.1> - 2019-06-21 13:24 -0500
    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-16 11:12 -0600
    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2019-06-16 13:26 -0700
      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2019-06-16 13:34 -0700
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-16 22:58 +0200
          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 10:20 +0200
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-19 10:55 +0200
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 12:37 +0200
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-19 13:13 +0200
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 14:31 +0200
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2019-07-20 19:43 -0400
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-19 09:36 -0600
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 14:36 +0200
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2019-07-20 19:37 -0400
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2019-06-19 21:32 +0300
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-19 20:47 +0200
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 21:01 +0200
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-19 20:23 +0100
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 22:53 +0200
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 23:09 +0000
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-20 05:21 +0200
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-20 04:16 +0000
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-20 06:21 +0200
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 14:38 +0200
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-20 13:30 +0000
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 19:21 +0200
                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-20 18:39 +0000
                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 22:52 +0200
                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-20 23:48 +0000
                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 13:01 +0200
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-21 12:30 +0000
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 14:51 +0200
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-21 13:43 +0000
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-23 12:56 +0200
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-21 08:55 -0500
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 19:01 +0200
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "F. Russell" <frussell@random.info> - 2019-06-21 13:33 +0000
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-21 13:39 +0000
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-21 10:14 -0500
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 19:09 +0200
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-21 13:39 -0400
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-21 11:18 -0400
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 19:10 +0200
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-21 19:57 +0000
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 23:09 +0200
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-21 08:17 +0100
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 13:03 +0200
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 19:51 +0000
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 22:45 +0200
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2019-07-20 19:46 -0400
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 21:00 +0200
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-19 20:20 +0100
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 14:43 +0200
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-19 16:44 -0400
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 22:57 +0200
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Wildman <best_lay@yahoo.com> - 2019-06-19 16:17 -0500
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-19 17:43 -0400
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 00:58 +0200
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-06-20 02:15 +0000
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-19 17:40 -0400
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-19 23:53 +0200
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2019-07-20 19:31 -0400
    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Freenet" <pieer@free.fr> - 2019-06-16 20:44 -0500
      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-06-17 12:41 +0000
        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-17 17:30 -0400
          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-17 23:22 +0000
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-18 16:07 -0400
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 10:28 +0200
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-06-19 10:30 +0000
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 12:51 +0200
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2019-06-19 11:30 +0000
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 21:03 +0200
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 12:30 +0000
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-06-19 18:23 +0000
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-19 20:42 +0200
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 19:49 +0000
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-19 21:56 +0200
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 20:38 +0000
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-20 00:04 +0200
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Eric Pozharski <whynot@pozharski.name> - 2019-06-20 11:34 +0300
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 23:15 +0200
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 21:11 +0200
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2019-06-19 19:31 +0000
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 23:18 +0200
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2019-06-21 13:13 +0000
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-22 16:57 +0200
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2019-06-23 09:46 +0000
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 20:10 +0000
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-19 22:18 +0200
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 20:33 +0000
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 23:05 +0200
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 23:30 +0000
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-19 21:43 -0600
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-20 05:50 +0200
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-06-20 04:23 +0000
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 23:20 +0200
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2019-06-20 04:49 +0000
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-20 07:05 +0200
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2019-06-20 08:41 +0000
                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-20 12:21 +0200
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2019-06-19 21:45 -0400
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-20 03:23 +0000
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-19 21:45 -0600
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-30 09:54 -0400
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-30 20:06 +0200
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-19 11:55 +0000
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org - 2019-06-22 13:20 +0000
          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-18 03:22 +0200
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Sidney_Kotic <kant@have.it> - 2019-06-17 18:25 -0800
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Georges <georges@prout.com> - 2019-06-18 08:30 +0200
            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-18 11:29 +0200
              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-18 16:15 -0400
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-18 20:28 +0000
                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-18 17:27 -0400
                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2019-06-19 00:04 +0000
                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-18 22:36 -0400
                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 10:06 +0200
                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-19 16:15 -0400
                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 14:51 +0200
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be> - 2019-06-20 15:13 +0200
                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 19:14 +0200
                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-20 12:21 -0600
                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2019-06-21 00:56 +0000
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-20 16:07 -0400
                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-20 14:24 -0600
                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-20 16:51 -0400
                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 23:02 +0200
                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-20 15:14 -0600
                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 13:41 +0200
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-06-21 09:30 -0500
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 19:14 +0200
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-21 12:34 -0600
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 23:53 +0200
                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-20 22:55 +0200
                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-20 15:17 -0600
                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 14:03 +0200
                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-21 22:59 -0600
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 07:51 -0500
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-22 16:53 -0600
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 18:56 -0500
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-22 20:09 -0600
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 22:48 -0500
                                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-22 22:51 -0600
                                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-23 13:19 +0200
                                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-23 07:33 -0500
                                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-23 15:07 +0100
                                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 02:09 +0200
                                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-23 22:22 -0500
                                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 11:41 +0200
                                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-24 07:24 -0500
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-23 13:14 +0200
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-23 11:50 -0600
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 02:41 +0200
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-30 15:08 -0600
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-30 21:14 +0000
                                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-30 15:22 -0600
                                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-06-30 21:47 +0000
                                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-07-01 08:10 +0000
                                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-07-01 10:05 +0100
                                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-01 12:54 +0200
                                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-07-01 12:08 +0100
                                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-07-01 11:54 +0000
                                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-07-01 12:30 -0400
                                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-07-01 17:11 -0600
                                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-07-01 17:06 -0600
                                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-07-02 09:35 +0000
                                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-07-02 09:20 -0600
                                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-02 14:28 +0200
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-07-01 07:51 +0000
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-01 12:46 +0200
                                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-01 09:50 -0500
                                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-01 17:31 +0200
                                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-01 12:10 -0500
                                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-02 14:17 +0200
                                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-02 10:22 -0500
                                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-02 19:10 +0200
                                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-02 19:16 +0200
                                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-07-02 12:27 -0600
                                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-02 14:33 -0500
                                                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-03 13:34 +0200
                                                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-07-03 09:06 -0500
                                                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-07-04 03:14 +0100
                                                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug - spam on mail "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-04 15:26 +0200
                                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-07-01 17:16 -0600
                                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-07-02 14:20 +0200
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-23 16:36 -0400
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 03:37 +0200
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-24 13:50 -0400
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 23:14 +0200
                                    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-21 16:01 -0400
                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-21 23:57 +0200
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-21 17:35 -0500
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-06-21 22:04 -0500
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-22 12:57 -0400
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@WizardsTower.invalid> - 2019-06-21 21:58 -0500
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 07:32 -0500
                                        Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-21 23:10 -0600
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-22 08:21 +0100
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-22 13:01 -0400
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-22 16:55 -0600
                                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-22 18:47 -0500
                                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-22 20:15 -0600
                                          Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-23 13:52 +0200
                                            Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-23 10:02 -0500
                                              Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 02:17 +0200
                                                Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2019-06-23 22:30 -0500
                                            Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-23 11:56 -0600
                                              Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 03:23 +0200
                                                Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-06-24 09:07 +0000
                                                  Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 11:52 +0200
                                                    Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2019-06-24 14:14 -0400
                                                      Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 23:21 +0200
                                                Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-30 15:38 -0600
                                            Re: Ancient networking [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-30 15:31 -0600
                                          Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-30 09:17 -0400
                                            Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-30 15:41 -0600
                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-21 23:02 -0600
                                        Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-23 14:02 +0200
                                          Re: Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2019-06-24 09:11 +0000
                                            Re: Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-24 11:53 +0200
                                          Re: Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2019-06-25 07:37 +0200
                                            Re: Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-25 16:49 +0200
                                              Re: Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-25 19:34 +0100
                                            Re: Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2019-06-25 17:53 +0000
                                            Re: Fidonet [Was: Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug] Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-30 09:36 -0400
                                      Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-30 08:52 -0400
                              Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2019-06-30 08:25 -0400
                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-30 20:01 +0200
                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2019-06-30 20:57 +0100
                                  Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> - 2019-06-30 15:47 -0600
                                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2019-06-30 16:13 -0400
                Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2019-06-19 00:43 +0200
    Re: Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2019-06-25 15:11 +0200

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#27185 — Linux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug

From"anonymous" <anonymous@rip.ax.lt>
Date2019-06-16 07:53 -0500
SubjectLinux Command-Line Editors Vulnerable to High-Severity Bug
Message-ID<qe5e54$opq$1@neodome.net>
(I have never understood why anyone would want to waste their time 
learning how to use that Vim crap.  Just a foolish venture into 
egotistical intellectual chauvinism.)

A bug impacting editors Vim and Neovim could allow a trojan code to 
escape sandbox mitigations.

https://threatpost.com/linux-command-line-editors-high-severity-
bug/145569/

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#27186

From"Anonymous" <nobody@mixmin.net>
Date2019-06-16 07:56 -0500
Message-ID<qe5eaj$ovh$1@neodome.net>
In reply to#27185
<https://threatpost.com/linux-command-line-editors-high-severity-
bug/145569/>

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#27187

FromFenris <fenris@invalid.invalid>
Date2019-06-16 15:53 +0200
Message-ID<Pine.NEB.4.64.1906161550430.29663@norge.freeshell.org>
In reply to#27185
On Sun, 16 Jun 2019, anonymous wrote:
> (I have never understood why anyone would want to waste their time
> learning how to use that Vim crap.  Just a foolish venture into
> egotistical intellectual chauvinism.)

Once you ware a admin for several unix flavours you may know why.

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#27188

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2019-06-16 15:35 +0100
Message-ID<qe5k3g$8on$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#27187
On 16/06/2019 14:53, Fenris wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Jun 2019, anonymous wrote:
>> (I have never understood why anyone would want to waste their time
>> learning how to use that Vim crap.  Just a foolish venture into
>> egotistical intellectual chauvinism.)
> 
> Once you ware a admin for several unix flavours you may know why.

vi was all one could rely on. I have written thousands of lines in vi.


-- 
"Corbyn talks about equality, justice, opportunity, health care, peace, 
community, compassion, investment, security, housing...."
"What kind of person is not interested in those things?"

"Jeremy Corbyn?"

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#27189

FromRoger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid>
Date2019-06-16 15:30 +0000
Message-ID<20190616112201@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#27188
On 2019-06-16, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> vi was all one could rely on. I have written thousands of lines in vi.

Same here. Probably the thing to do is add "set nomodeline" to the
system-wide vim configuration (/etc/vim/vimrc.local). On at least
one system I spot-checked this was already in the system-wide vimrc
with a comment that this is a dangerous feature.

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#27198

FromAndreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net>
Date2019-06-16 16:53 -0400
Message-ID<87r27tckv3.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>
In reply to#27188
On Sun, 16 Jun 2019 15:35:28 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
> On 16/06/2019 14:53, Fenris wrote:
>> On Sun, 16 Jun 2019, anonymous wrote:
>>> (I have never understood why anyone would want to waste their time
>>> learning how to use that Vim crap.  Just a foolish venture into
>>> egotistical intellectual chauvinism.)
>>
>> Once you ware a admin for several unix flavours you may know why.
>
> vi was all one could rely on. I have written thousands of lines in vi.

Before I switched to Emacs Gnus I used slrn as newsreader, and the editor
of choice was vi.

F'up comp.os.linux.misc
-- 
Andreas

My random thoughts and comments
https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/

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#27214

From"School of Agriculture" <ag@hick.edu>
Date2019-06-17 14:35 -0500
Message-ID<qe8q2c$9f8$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to#27187
> 
> On Sun, 16 Jun 2019, anonymous wrote:
> 
>> (I have never understood why anyone would want to waste their time
>> learning how to use that Vim crap.  Just a foolish venture into
>> egotistical intellectual chauvinism.)
> 
> Once you ware a admin for several unix flavours you may know why.

  Isn't nano available on all flavors of Linux?

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#27215

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2019-06-17 20:42 +0100
Message-ID<qe8qfh$n19$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#27214
On 17/06/2019 20:35, School of Agriculture wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 16 Jun 2019, anonymous wrote:
>>
>>> (I have never understood why anyone would want to waste their time
>>> learning how to use that Vim crap.  Just a foolish venture into
>>> egotistical intellectual chauvinism.)
>>
>> Once you ware a admin for several unix flavours you may know why.
> 
>    Isn't nano available on all flavors of Linux?
> 
Not in 1985

-- 
In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act.

- George Orwell

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#27223

FromAndreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net>
Date2019-06-17 17:31 -0400
Message-ID<87lfxzkieo.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>
In reply to#27215
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 20:42:41 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
> On 17/06/2019 20:35, School of Agriculture wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 16 Jun 2019, anonymous wrote:
>>>
>>>> (I have never understood why anyone would want to waste their time
>>>> learning how to use that Vim crap.  Just a foolish venture into
>>>> egotistical intellectual chauvinism.)
>>>
>>> Once you ware a admin for several unix flavours you may know why.
>>
>>    Isn't nano available on all flavors of Linux?
>>
> Not in 1985

There was no Linux in 1985. But Live Aid. :-D
-- 
Andreas

My random thoughts and comments
https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/

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#27236

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2019-06-18 14:13 +0100
Message-ID<qeao13$u92$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#27223
On 17/06/2019 22:31, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 20:42:41 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>> On 17/06/2019 20:35, School of Agriculture wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 16 Jun 2019, anonymous wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> (I have never understood why anyone would want to waste their time
>>>>> learning how to use that Vim crap.  Just a foolish venture into
>>>>> egotistical intellectual chauvinism.)
>>>>
>>>> Once you ware a admin for several unix flavours you may know why.
>>>
>>>     Isn't nano available on all flavors of Linux?
>>>
>> Not in 1985
> 
> There was no Linux in 1985.

Exactly.

But there was Unix.

  But Live Aid. :-D

Andt that cunt Geldof, pretending to save te world, but actually 
introducing warfare and ethic cleansing and boosting his bank account

> 


-- 
"And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch".

Gospel of St. Mathew 15:14

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#27218

FromRoger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid>
Date2019-06-17 20:30 +0000
Message-ID<20190617162751@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#27214
On 2019-06-17, School of Agriculture <ag@hick.edu> wrote:
>   Isn't nano available on all flavors of Linux?

The best editor is the one you don't have to think about, where muscle
memory takes over. I've been using vi since the early 1980s starting on
BSD 4.1 and using it is transparent at this point. I have to stop and
think to use nano. (I would not necessarily recommend vi/vim to someone
just starting out though.)

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#27221

FromGeorges <georges@prout.com>
Date2019-06-17 23:11 +0200
Message-ID<qe8vml$1o1m$2@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#27218
Le 17/06/2019 à 22:30, Roger Blake a écrit :
> On 2019-06-17, School of Agriculture <ag@hick.edu> wrote:
>>   Isn't nano available on all flavors of Linux?
> 
> The best editor is the one you don't have to think about, where muscle
> memory takes over. I've been using vi since the early 1980s starting on
> BSD 4.1 and using it is transparent at this point. I have to stop and
> think to use nano. (I would not necessarily recommend vi/vim to someone
> just starting out though.)
> 

One should learn "vi" (not vim) at least for those reasons :

- the only text editor in maintenance mode (single user mode from boot)
- very fast and light (even through remote connections)
- include ex and ed, useful for solving complex searches/replacements

Emacs is also a good candidate but, despite they have the same
asymptotic learning curve (after years you will still discover new
features), is :

- very slow on remote connection
- if you are used to xemacs, need for exporting display

;)

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#27224

FromAndreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net>
Date2019-06-17 17:36 -0400
Message-ID<87imt3ki78.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>
In reply to#27221
On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:11:51 +0200, Georges wrote:
>
> Le 17/06/2019 à 22:30, Roger Blake a écrit :
>> On 2019-06-17, School of Agriculture <ag@hick.edu> wrote:
>>>   Isn't nano available on all flavors of Linux?
>> 
>> The best editor is the one you don't have to think about, where muscle
>> memory takes over. I've been using vi since the early 1980s starting on
>> BSD 4.1 and using it is transparent at this point. I have to stop and
>> think to use nano. (I would not necessarily recommend vi/vim to someone
>> just starting out though.)
>> 
>
> One should learn "vi" (not vim) at least for those reasons :
>
> - the only text editor in maintenance mode (single user mode from boot)
> - very fast and light (even through remote connections)
> - include ex and ed, useful for solving complex searches/replacements

vi can run regex on files. Is that because it includes ex and/or ed?
Never heard of that.

> Emacs is also a good candidate but, despite they have the same
> asymptotic learning curve (after years you will still discover new
> features), is :
>
> - very slow on remote connection
> - if you are used to xemacs, need for exporting display
>
> ;)

As mentioned I run Gnus Emacs as newsreader here (see header of this
post). I run it on a TTY, so no X involved. I start it on the command
line with

emacs -nw -f gnus

F'up2 comp.os.linux.misc
-- 
Andreas

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#27225

FromDan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
Date2019-06-17 18:27 -0400
Message-ID<qe945a$bdm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#27221
Georges <georges@prout.com> writes:

> Le 17/06/2019 à 22:30, Roger Blake a écrit :
>> On 2019-06-17, School of Agriculture <ag@hick.edu> wrote:
>>>   Isn't nano available on all flavors of Linux?
>> 
>> The best editor is the one you don't have to think about, where muscle
>> memory takes over. I've been using vi since the early 1980s starting on
>> BSD 4.1 and using it is transparent at this point. I have to stop and
>> think to use nano. (I would not necessarily recommend vi/vim to someone
>> just starting out though.)
>> 
>
> One should learn "vi" (not vim) at least for those reasons :
>
> - the only text editor in maintenance mode (single user mode from boot)
> - very fast and light (even through remote connections)
> - include ex and ed, useful for solving complex searches/replacements
>
> Emacs is also a good candidate but, despite they have the same
> asymptotic learning curve (after years you will still discover new
> features), is :
>
> - very slow on remote connection

I used Emacs on remote connections for years.
Every once in a while I'd run into something causing a slowdown.
Like active roll over regions in a buffer.

But, mostly not a problem.

> - if you are used to xemacs, need for exporting display

Sorry, can't parse this at all.
Are you referencing XEmacs?  That's pretty much a defunct project.
Do you mean GNU Emacs in a X Window of it's own?
Emacs can be slower in it's own window than in a terminal window,
but as I said above, I found it mostly okay.

As far as the security bug, Emacs allows for files to contain
various things that filter into your environment, but it looks to
me like the Emacs developers have been very careful to keep this
interface safe.  You can't just stick something in a file that
Emacs will just go and execute.

Most of my files end with something like this:

# Local Variables:
# compile-command: "./stack.py -name test stack.data"
# End:

So, if I visit a malware file, I might get my compile command
changed, but I still need to invoke compile and then
I'll see the command before I hit enter.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#27231

FromGeorges <georges@prout.com>
Date2019-06-18 08:45 +0200
Message-ID<qea1at$509$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#27225
Le 18/06/2019 à 00:27, Dan Espen a écrit :
> Georges <georges@prout.com> writes:
> 
>> Le 17/06/2019 à 22:30, Roger Blake a écrit :
>>> On 2019-06-17, School of Agriculture <ag@hick.edu> wrote:
>>>>   Isn't nano available on all flavors of Linux?
>>>
>>> The best editor is the one you don't have to think about, where muscle
>>> memory takes over. I've been using vi since the early 1980s starting on
>>> BSD 4.1 and using it is transparent at this point. I have to stop and
>>> think to use nano. (I would not necessarily recommend vi/vim to someone
>>> just starting out though.)
>>>
>>
>> One should learn "vi" (not vim) at least for those reasons :
>>
>> - the only text editor in maintenance mode (single user mode from boot)
>> - very fast and light (even through remote connections)
>> - include ex and ed, useful for solving complex searches/replacements
>>
>> Emacs is also a good candidate but, despite they have the same
>> asymptotic learning curve (after years you will still discover new
>> features), is :
>>
>> - very slow on remote connection
> 
> I used Emacs on remote connections for years.
> Every once in a while I'd run into something causing a slowdown.
> Like active roll over regions in a buffer.
> 
> But, mostly not a problem.
> 
>> - if you are used to xemacs, need for exporting display
> 
> Sorry, can't parse this at all.
> Are you referencing XEmacs?  That's pretty much a defunct project.
> Do you mean GNU Emacs in a X Window of it's own?

yes, you are right... not clear... I was referencing emacsx - gnu emacs.

anyway I won't fight to know which is better simply because I started
with 'vi' in the very 80's ;)

the only thing I like with emacs is the gnus newsreader (not here ;))

In maintenance mode context and embedded linux/unix 'vi' is still a good
candidate ;)

> Emacs can be slower in it's own window than in a terminal window,
> but as I said above, I found it mostly okay.

ok, i didn't know the -nw feature

> 
> As far as the security bug, Emacs allows for files to contain
> various things that filter into your environment, but it looks to
> me like the Emacs developers have been very careful to keep this
> interface safe.  You can't just stick something in a file that
> Emacs will just go and execute.
> 
> Most of my files end with something like this:
> 
> # Local Variables:
> # compile-command: "./stack.py -name test stack.data"
> # End:
> 
> So, if I visit a malware file, I might get my compile command
> changed, but I still need to invoke compile and then
> I'll see the command before I hit enter.
> 

interesting, thank you ;)

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#27249

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2019-06-18 23:58 +0000
Message-ID<qebtrh098d@news2.newsguy.com>
In reply to#27221
On 2019-06-17, Georges <georges@prout.com> wrote:

> Le 17/06/2019 à 22:30, Roger Blake a écrit :
>
>> On 2019-06-17, School of Agriculture <ag@hick.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>   Isn't nano available on all flavors of Linux?
>> 
>> The best editor is the one you don't have to think about, where muscle
>> memory takes over. I've been using vi since the early 1980s starting on
>> BSD 4.1 and using it is transparent at this point. I have to stop and
>> think to use nano. (I would not necessarily recommend vi/vim to someone
>> just starting out though.)

I've gotten vi far enough into my fingers that sometimes when in
another editor, I'll see a string of "j"s appear on the screen,
and realize I'm trying to move down a few lines.

> One should learn "vi" (not vim) at least for those reasons :
>
> - the only text editor in maintenance mode (single user mode from boot)
> - very fast and light (even through remote connections)
> - include ex and ed, useful for solving complex searches/replacements

The same argument (alas) applies to Notepad on Windows.

> Emacs is also a good candidate but, despite they have the same
> asymptotic learning curve (after years you will still discover new
> features), is :
>
> - very slow on remote connection
> - if you are used to xemacs, need for exporting display
>
> ;)

I took a look at emacs a while ago, but there are some philosophical
differences that I just can't wrap my head around.  At least not
without warping my world view more than I'm willing to do at this
time.  (Mostly to do with tabs...)

-- 
/~\  cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs)
\ /  I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way.
 X   Top-posted messages will probably be ignored.  See RFC1855.
/ \  Fight low-contrast text in web pages!  http://contrastrebellion.com

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#27251

FromDan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
Date2019-06-18 21:42 -0400
Message-ID<qec3tm$9vt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#27249
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:

> On 2019-06-17, Georges <georges@prout.com> wrote:
>
>> Le 17/06/2019 à 22:30, Roger Blake a écrit :
>>
>>> On 2019-06-17, School of Agriculture <ag@hick.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Isn't nano available on all flavors of Linux?
>>> 
>>> The best editor is the one you don't have to think about, where muscle
>>> memory takes over. I've been using vi since the early 1980s starting on
>>> BSD 4.1 and using it is transparent at this point. I have to stop and
>>> think to use nano. (I would not necessarily recommend vi/vim to someone
>>> just starting out though.)
>
> I've gotten vi far enough into my fingers that sometimes when in
> another editor, I'll see a string of "j"s appear on the screen,
> and realize I'm trying to move down a few lines.

I look for one way to move the pointer.
My window manager supports "j" to navigate menus,
but it also supports the arrow keys.
So many other things are hard wired into the cursor keys.

I don't care so much that down arrow is right under my strongest finger,
I just want one way to move down a line.

>> One should learn "vi" (not vim) at least for those reasons :
>>
>> - the only text editor in maintenance mode (single user mode from boot)
>> - very fast and light (even through remote connections)
>> - include ex and ed, useful for solving complex searches/replacements
>
> The same argument (alas) applies to Notepad on Windows.

I'll always remember users reporting they opened a UNIX file in Notepad
and there was nothing there.  I'd suggest, use Wordpad instead.  Always.

>> Emacs is also a good candidate but, despite they have the same
>> asymptotic learning curve (after years you will still discover new
>> features), is :
>>
>> - very slow on remote connection
>> - if you are used to xemacs, need for exporting display
>>
>> ;)
>
> I took a look at emacs a while ago, but there are some philosophical
> differences that I just can't wrap my head around.  At least not
> without warping my world view more than I'm willing to do at this
> time.  (Mostly to do with tabs...)

Some time in the 70s I first saw Emacs and vi.
At least with Emacs, I would hit some keys and text would appear.

Doubtless you ran into Emacs trying to be helpful, TAB often means,
indent this text according to Emacs' reading of syntax.  The pointer
won't move, just the text if it needs indenting.  That can make a
user think the TAB key isn't working, but it's checking syntax and
only adjusting text if needed.

Easy to turn off.  I never would.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#27269

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2019-06-19 18:23 +0000
Message-ID<qedujt113j9@news2.newsguy.com>
In reply to#27251
On 2019-06-19, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote:

> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 2019-06-17, Georges <georges@prout.com> wrote:
>>
>>> One should learn "vi" (not vim) at least for those reasons :
>>>
>>> - the only text editor in maintenance mode (single user mode from boot)
>>> - very fast and light (even through remote connections)
>>> - include ex and ed, useful for solving complex searches/replacements
>>
>> The same argument (alas) applies to Notepad on Windows.
>
> I'll always remember users reporting they opened a UNIX file in Notepad
> and there was nothing there.  I'd suggest, use Wordpad instead.  Always.

When I open a file with naked LF line terminators in Notepad, it
mashes the whole thing into one long line (which it then breaks up
into whatever maximum length it can handle), with a little box glyph
in place of the line breaks.  Funny, LIST.COM (an old MS-DOS utility
which I still use to examine files because it's so damned easy to use)
accepts such files with no problems.

>>> Emacs is also a good candidate but, despite they have the same
>>> asymptotic learning curve (after years you will still discover new
>>> features), is :
>>>
>>> - very slow on remote connection
>>> - if you are used to xemacs, need for exporting display
>>>
>>> ;)
>>
>> I took a look at emacs a while ago, but there are some philosophical
>> differences that I just can't wrap my head around.  At least not
>> without warping my world view more than I'm willing to do at this
>> time.  (Mostly to do with tabs...)
>
> Some time in the 70s I first saw Emacs and vi.
> At least with Emacs, I would hit some keys and text would appear.
>
> Doubtless you ran into Emacs trying to be helpful, TAB often means,
> indent this text according to Emacs' reading of syntax.  The pointer
> won't move, just the text if it needs indenting.  That can make a
> user think the TAB key isn't working, but it's checking syntax and
> only adjusting text if needed.
>
> Easy to turn off.  I never would.

I think the philosophical difference I tripped over is that in Emacs,
TAB isn't a character in the file, but a command to Emacs itself.
I've stuck with the admittedly despicable practice of mixing tabs
and spaces in my C programs so I can have 4-space indentation with
a minimum of hassle.   Some day, if I ever decide to eliminate tabs
from source files, I'll take another look at Emacs.  Meanwhile, the
convention of one tab every 8 characters means any usage of tabs
other than mine would restrict me to editors with sophisticated
tab handling, like Emacs (and maybe vi), if I figure out whether
and how to configure them.  This could cause problems with things
that are hardwired to 8-character tabs, e.g. cat and lpr.

It's a thorny problem, and one I don't yet have time to address.

-- 
/~\  cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid (Charlie Gibbs)
\ /  I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way.
 X   Top-posted messages will probably be ignored.  See RFC1855.
/ \  Fight low-contrast text in web pages!  http://contrastrebellion.com

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#27343

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2019-06-20 23:06 +0200
Message-ID<k39ttf-6mq.ln1@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#27269
On 19/06/2019 20.23, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2019-06-19, Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> On 2019-06-17, Georges <georges@prout.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One should learn "vi" (not vim) at least for those reasons :
>>>>
>>>> - the only text editor in maintenance mode (single user mode from boot)
>>>> - very fast and light (even through remote connections)
>>>> - include ex and ed, useful for solving complex searches/replacements
>>>
>>> The same argument (alas) applies to Notepad on Windows.
>>
>> I'll always remember users reporting they opened a UNIX file in Notepad
>> and there was nothing there.  I'd suggest, use Wordpad instead.  Always.
> 
> When I open a file with naked LF line terminators in Notepad, it
> mashes the whole thing into one long line (which it then breaks up
> into whatever maximum length it can handle), with a little box glyph
> in place of the line breaks.  Funny, LIST.COM (an old MS-DOS utility
> which I still use to examine files because it's so damned easy to use)
> accepts such files with no problems.
> 
>>>> Emacs is also a good candidate but, despite they have the same
>>>> asymptotic learning curve (after years you will still discover new
>>>> features), is :
>>>>
>>>> - very slow on remote connection
>>>> - if you are used to xemacs, need for exporting display
>>>>
>>>> ;)
>>>
>>> I took a look at emacs a while ago, but there are some philosophical
>>> differences that I just can't wrap my head around.  At least not
>>> without warping my world view more than I'm willing to do at this
>>> time.  (Mostly to do with tabs...)
>>
>> Some time in the 70s I first saw Emacs and vi.
>> At least with Emacs, I would hit some keys and text would appear.
>>
>> Doubtless you ran into Emacs trying to be helpful, TAB often means,
>> indent this text according to Emacs' reading of syntax.  The pointer
>> won't move, just the text if it needs indenting.  That can make a
>> user think the TAB key isn't working, but it's checking syntax and
>> only adjusting text if needed.
>>
>> Easy to turn off.  I never would.
> 
> I think the philosophical difference I tripped over is that in Emacs,
> TAB isn't a character in the file, but a command to Emacs itself.
> I've stuck with the admittedly despicable practice of mixing tabs
> and spaces in my C programs so I can have 4-space indentation with
> a minimum of hassle.   Some day, if I ever decide to eliminate tabs
> from source files, I'll take another look at Emacs.  Meanwhile, the
> convention of one tab every 8 characters means any usage of tabs
> other than mine would restrict me to editors with sophisticated
> tab handling, like Emacs (and maybe vi), if I figure out whether
> and how to configure them.  This could cause problems with things
> that are hardwired to 8-character tabs, e.g. cat and lpr.
> 
> It's a thorny problem, and one I don't yet have time to address.

I used tabs of 3 chars ;-)

When I was using floppies, I remember replacing chars with tabs on
pascal programs to save on file size, on files that I didn't originate.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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#27381

Fromrlhamil@bigapple.pri (Richard L. Hamilton)
Date2019-06-22 01:00 +0000
Message-ID<y4fPE.7$1v5.2@fx48.iad>
In reply to#27249
In article <qebtrh098d@news2.newsguy.com>,
	Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
> On 2019-06-17, Georges <georges@prout.com> wrote:
> 
>> Le 17/06/2019 à 22:30, Roger Blake a écrit :
>>
>>> On 2019-06-17, School of Agriculture <ag@hick.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Isn't nano available on all flavors of Linux?
>>> 
>>> The best editor is the one you don't have to think about, where muscle
>>> memory takes over. I've been using vi since the early 1980s starting on
>>> BSD 4.1 and using it is transparent at this point. I have to stop and
>>> think to use nano. (I would not necessarily recommend vi/vim to someone
>>> just starting out though.)
> 
> I've gotten vi far enough into my fingers that sometimes when in
> another editor, I'll see a string of "j"s appear on the screen,
> and realize I'm trying to move down a few lines.
> 
>> One should learn "vi" (not vim) at least for those reasons :
>>
>> - the only text editor in maintenance mode (single user mode from boot)
>> - very fast and light (even through remote connections)
>> - include ex and ed, useful for solving complex searches/replacements
> 
> The same argument (alas) applies to Notepad on Windows.

Notepad doesn't work over a ssh, telnet, or serial-terminal-like
connection.  OTOH, not hard to install VIM for Windows (standalone,
don't need Cygwin or WSL); I've found it to work decently even SSH'd
into the Windows system (from a Mac, in my case).

-- 
ftp> get |fortune
377 I/O error: smart remark generator failed

Lasik/PRK theme music:
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