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| Started by | Luis Denera <luisdenera@invalid.net> |
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| First post | 2012-01-28 04:33 +0000 |
| Last post | 2012-02-02 02:59 +0100 |
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Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Luis Denera <luisdenera@invalid.net> - 2012-01-28 04:33 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? rouben@shady.(none) (Rouben Rostamian) - 2012-01-28 07:41 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-28 10:38 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Norbert Möndjen <n.moendjen@vodafone.de> - 2012-01-28 13:01 +0100
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-28 16:00 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-01-28 06:07 -0600
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-01-28 12:17 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-01-28 19:13 +0100
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-01-28 22:28 -0600
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-01-29 05:03 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-01-29 07:06 -0500
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-01-29 07:35 -0600
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-01-30 12:46 -0500
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-01-30 12:32 -0600
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-30 19:02 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-01-30 15:23 -0500
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-30 22:39 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-01-30 14:03 -0500
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2012-01-30 20:31 +0100
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-01-30 14:22 -0600
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-01-30 20:02 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-01-30 14:31 -0600
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-01-30 20:48 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-30 20:48 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2012-01-30 18:10 -0600
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-31 10:18 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-01-31 10:53 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-01-31 16:15 -0500
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Paul Bartlett <bartlett@panix.com> - 2012-01-31 17:20 -0500
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-01-31 17:27 -0600
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Laurent Claessens <moky.math@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 09:41 +0100
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Feranija <feranija@mouse-potato.com> - 2012-02-01 01:53 -0800
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 11:14 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Laurent Claessens <moky.math@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 15:11 +0100
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 09:20 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-02-01 09:49 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 10:58 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-02-01 12:48 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 13:59 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2012-02-05 16:52 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-02-05 11:04 -0600
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-05 20:23 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2012-02-05 17:09 -0600
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-05 23:40 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-02-06 08:41 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 10:34 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-06 10:48 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-02-06 11:04 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 12:25 +0000
Docs/Word Processing in Console - but should be changed to "Who's is bigger?" gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-02-06 14:47 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - but should be changed to "Who's is bigger?" Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 15:34 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - but should be changed to "Who's is bigger?" gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-02-06 16:30 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - but should be changed to "Who's is bigger?" J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-02-06 16:50 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - but should be changed to "Who's is bigger?" - is now "sig wars" gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-02-06 17:01 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - but should be changed to "Who's is bigger?" - is now "sig wars" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-06 17:34 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - but should be changed to "Who's is bigger?" Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 18:30 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - Now: Just tryin' to help, ma'am... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-02-06 22:49 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - Now: Just tryin' to help, ma'am... Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-07 01:58 +0100
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - Now: Just tryin' to help, ma'am... Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-07 11:20 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console - Now: Just tryin' to help, ma'am... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-02-07 12:17 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2012-02-06 14:15 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2012-02-06 11:16 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-02-06 11:29 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2012-02-06 12:45 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-02-06 15:02 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-02-06 13:08 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-01-31 01:05 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-01-31 03:25 +0100
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2012-02-01 04:09 +0100
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2012-02-01 05:54 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? DenverD <DenverD@invalid.dk> - 2012-01-28 22:48 +0100
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? JeffM <jeffm_@email.com> - 2012-01-28 18:23 -0800
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-01-28 18:36 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? pH <pureheart@pacbell.net> - 2012-02-01 09:18 -0800
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2012-02-01 20:35 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-02-01 17:24 -0500
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2012-02-01 23:17 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-02-01 20:42 -0500
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Krzysztof Mitko <fakemail@krzysztof.at.eml.dot.cc> - 2012-02-02 08:01 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2012-02-02 09:02 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2012-02-02 04:29 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2012-02-01 15:24 -0500
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Feranija <feranija@mouse-potato.com> - 2012-02-04 13:20 -0800
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Aaron W. Hsu <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2012-02-04 18:03 -0600
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? danca <ynnadrebyc@tiscalinet.it> - 2012-02-01 19:54 +0100
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2012-02-01 15:17 -0500
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-01 20:58 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-01 22:21 +0100
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Feranija <feranija@mouse-potato.com> - 2012-02-01 13:18 -0800
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-01 22:27 +0100
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? danca <ynnadrebyc@tiscalinet.it> - 2012-02-02 00:58 +0100
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-02 02:58 +0100
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-02-02 01:08 +0000
Re: Docs/Word Processing in Console ? Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> - 2012-02-02 02:59 +0100
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| From | Luis Denera <luisdenera@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2012-01-28 04:33 +0000 |
| Subject | Docs/Word Processing in Console ? |
| Message-ID | <jfvtqu$547$1@speranza.aioe.org> |
Please, is there any office suite available for linux console as it was years ago WP-DOS v1.0-5.1, or older MultiMate ? I know for "sc" or "slsc" spreadsheet application, but just a spreadsheet isn't enough. Or, are there any standalone office application, documents and word processing applications, faxing printing, piecharts, financial and similar ? It does not necessarily need to be freeware nor opensource. Thank you.
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| From | rouben@shady.(none) (Rouben Rostamian) |
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| Date | 2012-01-28 07:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jg08rr$7od$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #3954 |
In article <jfvtqu$547$1@speranza.aioe.org>, Luis Denera <luisdenera@invalid.net> wrote: >Please, is there any office suite available for linux console as it was >years ago WP-DOS v1.0-5.1, or older MultiMate ? > >I know for "sc" or "slsc" spreadsheet application, but just a spreadsheet >isn't enough. Or, are there any standalone office application, documents >and word processing applications, faxing printing, piecharts, financial and >similar ? Have a look at LibreOffice: http://www.libreoffice.org/ You may not need to download it -- it is already included in many Linux distributions. -- Rouben Rostamian
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-01-28 10:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jg0j6a$ulv$2@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #3954 |
Luis Denera wrote: > Please, is there any office suite available for linux console as it was > years ago WP-DOS v1.0-5.1, or older MultiMate ? > you mean a non gui ? I think Emacs is the nearest. > I know for "sc" or "slsc" spreadsheet application, but just a spreadsheet > isn't enough. Or, are there any standalone office application, documents > and word processing applications, faxing printing, piecharts, financial and > similar ? > > It does not necessarily need to be freeware nor opensource. Thank you. > >
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| From | Norbert Möndjen <n.moendjen@vodafone.de> |
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| Date | 2012-01-28 13:01 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <7l4dv8-qcf.ln1@zuhause.moendjen.dyndns.org> |
| In reply to | #3966 |
Am 28.01.2012 11:38, schrieb The Natural Philosopher: >> I know for "sc" or "slsc" spreadsheet application, but just a spreadsheet >> isn't enough. Or, are there any standalone office application, documents >> and word processing applications, faxing printing, piecharts, >> financial and >> similar ? >> It does not necessarily need to be freeware nor opensource. Thank you. >> >> The last time I see something like this was on a VAX with s2020 for spreadsheet/diagramm and AllinOne as mail, fax, wordprozessor, calendar and so on. Don´t know if there ist still something like this is out in the wild. This combination was working very well on terminals. Ciao Nobbe
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-01-28 16:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jg162i$cj0$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #3971 |
Norbert Möndjen wrote: > Am 28.01.2012 11:38, schrieb The Natural Philosopher: >>> I know for "sc" or "slsc" spreadsheet application, but just a spreadsheet >>> isn't enough. Or, are there any standalone office application, documents >>> and word processing applications, faxing printing, piecharts, >>> financial and >>> similar ? >>> It does not necessarily need to be freeware nor opensource. Thank you. >>> >>> > > The last time I see something like this was on a VAX with s2020 for > spreadsheet/diagramm and AllinOne as mail, fax, wordprozessor, calendar > and so on. Don´t know if there ist still something like this is out in > the wild. This combination was working very well on terminals. > > Ciao Nobbe > Sco unix used to have something of this sort as well. Office on 80x25 glass screens..
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| From | Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> |
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| Date | 2012-01-28 06:07 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <6YSdnQslfNiEeL7SnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@posted.localnet> |
| In reply to | #3954 |
At Sat, 28 Jan 2012 04:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Luis Denera <luisdenera@invalid.net> wrote:
>
> Please, is there any office suite available for linux console as it was
> years ago WP-DOS v1.0-5.1, or older MultiMate ?
>
> I know for "sc" or "slsc" spreadsheet application, but just a spreadsheet
> isn't enough. Or, are there any standalone office application, documents
> and word processing applications, faxing printing, piecharts, financial and
> similar ?
>
> It does not necessarily need to be freeware nor opensource. Thank you.
LaTeX + emacs work just fine in console mode. No GUI, no WYSIWYG, but
you can certainly create *beautiful* documents. Requires some actual
learning to use these tools.
>
>
>
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| From | gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) |
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| Date | 2012-01-28 12:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jg0ovv$1rv$4@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #3968 |
In article <6YSdnQslfNiEeL7SnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@posted.localnet>, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote: ... >LaTeX + emacs work just fine in console mode. No GUI, no WYSIWYG, but >you can certainly create *beautiful* documents. Requires some actual >learning to use these tools. Which pretty much makes it a non-starter in today's market. -- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as foolish, and by the rulers as useful. (Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)
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| From | Aragorn <stryder@telenet.be.invalid> |
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| Date | 2012-01-28 19:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jg1dt4$cmg$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3970 |
On Saturday 28 January 2012 13:17, Kenny McCormack conveyed the following to comp.os.linux.misc... > In article <6YSdnQslfNiEeL7SnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@posted.localnet>, > Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote: > ... >> LaTeX + emacs work just fine in console mode. No GUI, no WYSIWYG, >> but you can certainly create *beautiful* documents. Requires some >> actuallearning to use these tools. > > Which pretty much makes it a non-starter in today's market. The OP doesn't appear to be looking for "a starter in today's market". He appears to already be sufficiently experienced at using character mode consoles and the DOS-equivalent software of what he's asking for with regard to UNIX. If the OP were a newbie, he'd go with Libre-/OpenOffice, Calligra, or some other GUI-oriented suite. -- = Aragorn = (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
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| From | Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> |
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| Date | 2012-01-28 22:28 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <lcednXhR-YJGV7nSnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@posted.localnet> |
| In reply to | #3970 |
At Sat, 28 Jan 2012 12:17:03 +0000 (UTC) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) wrote:
>
> In article <6YSdnQslfNiEeL7SnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@posted.localnet>,
> Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote:
> ...
> >LaTeX + emacs work just fine in console mode. No GUI, no WYSIWYG, but
> >you can certainly create *beautiful* documents. Requires some actual
> >learning to use these tools.
>
> Which pretty much makes it a non-starter in today's market.
Which pretty much makes a non-GUI workstation a non-starter in today's
market. If the OP wants to create documents from a console screen he is
out of luck, unless he is willing to take on the LaTeX + emacs learning
curve.
>
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| From | gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) |
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| Date | 2012-01-29 05:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <jg2jvu$8fr$1@news.xmission.com> |
| In reply to | #3985 |
In article <lcednXhR-YJGV7nSnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@posted.localnet>, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote: >At Sat, 28 Jan 2012 12:17:03 +0000 (UTC) gazelle@shell.xmission.com >(Kenny McCormack) wrote: > >> >> In article <6YSdnQslfNiEeL7SnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@posted.localnet>, >> Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote: >> ... >> >LaTeX + emacs work just fine in console mode. No GUI, no WYSIWYG, but >> >you can certainly create *beautiful* documents. Requires some actual >> >learning to use these tools. >> >> Which pretty much makes it a non-starter in today's market. > >Which pretty much makes a non-GUI workstation a non-starter in today's >market. If the OP wants to create documents from a console screen he is >out of luck, unless he is willing to take on the LaTeX + emacs learning >curve. Yep. You got it, bucko! -- (This discussion group is about C, ...) Wrong. It is only OCCASIONALLY a discussion group about C; mostly, like most "discussion" groups, it is off-topic Rorsharch [sic] revelations of the childhood traumas of the participants...
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| From | "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> |
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| Date | 2012-01-29 07:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <op.v8ug9bac0p3ku8@localhost> |
| In reply to | #3985 |
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:28:11 -0500, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote: > Which pretty much makes a non-GUI workstation a non-starter in today's > market. If the OP wants to create documents from a console screen he is > out of luck, unless he is willing to take on the LaTeX + emacs learning > curve. Definitely time to change that! -- Aaron W. Hsu | arcfide@sacrideo.us | http://www.sacrideo.us לֵ֤ב חֲכָמִים֙ בְּבֵ֣ית אֵ֔בֶל וְלֵ֥ב כְּסִילִ֖ים בְּבֵ֥ית שִׂמְחָֽה
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| From | Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> |
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| Date | 2012-01-29 07:35 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <hd6dnUIZz_-B1rjSnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@posted.localnet> |
| In reply to | #3993 |
At Sun, 29 Jan 2012 07:06:37 -0500 "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> wrote:
>
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Huh? What is with the base64 encoding?
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| From | "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> |
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| Date | 2012-01-30 12:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <op.v8wrnwjd0p3ku8@localhost> |
| In reply to | #3996 |
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:35:24 -0500, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote: > Huh? What is with the base64 encoding? Probably the Unicode. I have Unicode in my mails.
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| From | Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> |
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| Date | 2012-01-30 12:32 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <PJOdnWF9QrC-f7vSnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@posted.localnet> |
| In reply to | #4018 |
At Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:46:34 -0500 "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:35:24 -0500, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Huh? What is with the base64 encoding?
>
> Probably the Unicode. I have Unicode in my mails.
Why? This is an *English* newsgroup.
>
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-01-30 19:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <87zkd5814b.fsf@araminta.anjou.terraraq.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #4019 |
Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> writes: > "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> wrote: >> Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote: >>> Huh? What is with the base64 encoding? >> Probably the Unicode. I have Unicode in my mails. > Why? This is an *English* newsgroup. That doesn’t mean you have to stick to ASCII, nor that the contents of a signature has to be in the English language (or indeed any language at all). A more pressing question is why he’s using base64 when 8bit or quoted-printable would do just fine and be more widely readable. -- http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> |
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| Date | 2012-01-30 15:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <op.v8wyxvok0p3ku8@localhost> |
| In reply to | #4020 |
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:02:44 -0500, Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> wrote: > A more pressing question is why he’s using base64 when 8bit or > quoted-printable would do just fine and be more widely readable. My signature contains Hebrew/Yiddish, so normal 8-bit ASCII wouldn't work. The other is a failure of my news client to encode things as quoted-printable rather than as some other encoding.
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| From | Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> |
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| Date | 2012-01-30 22:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <87hazcu864.fsf@araminta.anjou.terraraq.org.uk> |
| In reply to | #4025 |
"Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> writes: > Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> wrote: >> A more pressing question is why he’s using base64 when 8bit or >> quoted-printable would do just fine and be more widely readable. > > My signature contains Hebrew/Yiddish, so normal 8-bit ASCII wouldn't > work. The other is a failure of my news client to encode things as > quoted-printable rather than as some other encoding. I'm not proposing you use ASCII, I'm proposing you continue to use UTF-8 but with a transfer encoding of 8bit. i.e.: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -- http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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| From | "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> |
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| Date | 2012-01-30 14:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <op.v8wu8dk90p3ku8@localhost> |
| In reply to | #4019 |
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:32:03 -0500, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote: > Why? This is an *English* newsgroup. For special characters in my signature as well as for other things that may appear in English as well. I also work on other newsgroups that use Unicode extensively.
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
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| Date | 2012-01-30 20:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <jg6r78$hf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #4019 |
Robert Heller wrote: > At Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:46:34 -0500 "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> > wrote: > >> >> On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:35:24 -0500, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> >> wrote: >> >> > Huh? What is with the base64 encoding? >> >> Probably the Unicode. I have Unicode in my mails. > > Why? This is an *English* newsgroup. > >> And for all practical purposes english is the same if using ASCII or UTF-8 They have the exact same characters for all chars up to 7Fh
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| From | Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> |
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| Date | 2012-01-30 14:22 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <eqSdnXFBNotiZrvSnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@posted.localnet> |
| In reply to | #4022 |
At Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:31:37 +0100 Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?= <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>
> Robert Heller wrote:
>
> > At Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:46:34 -0500 "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:35:24 -0500, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Huh? What is with the base64 encoding?
> >>
> >> Probably the Unicode. I have Unicode in my mails.
> >
> > Why? This is an *English* newsgroup.
> >
> >>
>
> And for all practical purposes english is the same if using ASCII or UTF-8
>
> They have the exact same characters for all chars up to 7Fh
Right. And the odd UTF-8 in the sig can be handled with
quoted-printable or something (and be ingored by people who can't/don't
deal with oriental languages). The rest of the posting would esentually
be in ASCII.
>
>
>
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