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  Google Releases New Open Font Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-20 14:16 +0000
    Re: Google Releases New Open Font Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-20 11:27 -0500
      Re: Google Releases New Open Font Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-12-21 14:30 +0000
        Re: Google Releases New Open Font Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-21 14:52 +0000
          Re: Google Releases New Open Font Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-21 16:04 +0000
            Re: Google Releases New Open Font Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-21 19:49 +0000
              Re: Google Releases New Open Font The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-21 20:05 +0000
              Re: Google Releases New Open Font Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-22 01:10 +0000
                Re: Google Releases New Open Font Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 23:13 +0000
              Re: Google Releases New Open Font Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-22 07:25 -0500
        Re: Google Releases New Open Font c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 04:49 -0500
          Re: Google Releases New Open Font Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-12-23 11:19 +0000
            Re: Google Releases New Open Font "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-26 22:13 +0100
              Re: Google Releases New Open Font c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-26 23:14 -0500
                Re: Google Releases New Open Font "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-27 21:59 +0100
                  Re: Google Releases New Open Font The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-27 23:33 +0000
                    Re: Google Releases New Open Font "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-28 14:44 +0100

#79578 — Google Releases New Open Font

Google has released a new open-source font:

<https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Google+Sans+Flex>

What does it look like?  Here is a comparison, using
LibreOffice, between my favorite font, Liberation, and
Google-Flex-Sans:

https://i.postimg.cc/CxxyV51y/logsffont1.png

Not bad!  In fact I believe that I tend to prefer it
over Liberation Sans, but with LO I usually employ a
"serif" font.

But how does it perform with Unicode?  Check:

https://i.postimg.cc/BnnWGb6s/logsffont2.png

It seems to have good Unicode coverage as well.

What do YOU think?  (Do you even think at all?)

Installing it is simple.  Just copy to "~/.fonts"
and execute "fc-cache -r."  That's all.

Distro lackeys, however, will need to search for
their pretty "button" that says "Font Install"
or other such DE bullshit.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


-- 
Gentoo: the only road to GNU/Linux freedom and perfection.

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#79586

Farley Flud wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:

> Google has released a new open-source font:
>
> <https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Google+Sans+Flex>
>
> What does it look like?  Here is a comparison, using
> LibreOffice, between my favorite font, Liberation, and
> Google-Flex-Sans:
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/CxxyV51y/logsffont1.png
>
> Not bad!  In fact I believe that I tend to prefer it
> over Liberation Sans, but with LO I usually employ a
> "serif" font.

Li'l Marco wants you to use Time New Roman, not these woke fonts.

> But how does it perform with Unicode?  Check:
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/BnnWGb6s/logsffont2.png
>
> It seems to have good Unicode coverage as well.

Terminus (my current favorite) does pretty well on the Unicode
test page, except for Tamil, Bengali, Tibetan, and a few others.

    <https://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~richard/unicode-sample.html>

> Installing it is simple.  Just copy to "~/.fonts"
> and execute "fc-cache -r."  That's all.

The newer convention is ~/.local/share/fonts.

> Distro lackeys, however, will need to search for
> their pretty "button" that says "Font Install"
> or other such DE bullshit.

I copied atarist-normal.otf to the above directory for fun and
nostalgia.

> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Easily amused, eh?

-- 
You and I need fresh pure water to replenish our precious bodily
fluids.

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#79648

On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 11:27:28 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> 
>> Installing it is simple.  Just copy to "~/.fonts"
>> and execute "fc-cache -r."  That's all.
> 
> The newer convention is ~/.local/share/fonts.
> 

There are no "conventions" in GNU/Linux.  The user is King and
determines all.

The user can specify any font directory in "/etc/fonts/local.conf"
and fontconfig will obey.

If I want to keep fonts in "/planet/pluto/darkside/fonts" then
I certainly can do so.  It is MY system and therefore MY choice --
and that's how it always should be.

However, distro lackey have no choice but to conform to conventions.

They are a sad lot.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


-- 

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#79649

Le 21-12-2025, Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> a écrit :
> On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 11:27:28 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> 
>>> Installing it is simple.  Just copy to "~/.fonts"
>>> and execute "fc-cache -r."  That's all.
>> 
>> The newer convention is ~/.local/share/fonts.
>> 
>
> There are no "conventions" in GNU/Linux.

There are.

> The user is King and determines all.

Yes. It doesn't mean there are no convention, it means the user is free
to ignore them. It's not the same thing. I'm pretty sure there are
/home, /etc and /bin directories on your computer. You can use anything
you want instead, but you don't because you follow the conventions even
if you aren't aware of them.

> However, distro lackey have no choice but to conform to conventions.

How can they conform to conventions if they don't exist? You see? Once
again you speak nonsense.

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#79650

On 21 Dec 2025 14:52:06 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>>
>> There are no "conventions" in GNU/Linux.
> 
> There are.
> 

Conventions = Defaults

There are "defaults" in GNU/Linux.  There have to be.  If a program
expects to grab data from somewhere then a default location must
be established or else there will be problems.

But these defaults must ALWAYS be configurable by the user.
The user must ALWAYS be acknowledged as the King and final
arbiter of his system.

The question that remains is whether IBM/Redhat, which sponsors
freedesktop.org, will continue to allow user configurability.

Freedesktop.org produces a lot of critical software for the
GNU/Linux graphics subsystem and they certainly can unilaterally
decide that only they, and not the user, know what is best.
Those fascist pigs can eliminate user configurability and thereby
force everyone into a design of their own choosing.

This is no joke.  This is no exaggeration.  Fascist pigs are
controlling GNU/Linux development.

They can only succeed.  The disgusting acquiescence shown by the
pathetic distro lackey will allow their success.



-- 
Gentoo: the only road to GNU/Linux freedom and perfection.

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#79655

Le 21-12-2025, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> On 21 Dec 2025 14:52:06 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>>>
>>> There are no "conventions" in GNU/Linux.
>> 
>> There are.
>
> Conventions = Defaults

No. There are always defaults, there is no way around, a variable must
have a default value. That doesn't mean that lot of people with agree to
chose the same defaults. That's the difference between convention and
default.

> Those fascist pigs can eliminate user configurability and thereby
> force everyone into a design of their own choosing.

As you are requesting every user to do the same choices as yours, that
makes you a fascist pig?

-- 
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

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#79657

On 21/12/2025 19:49, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> As you are requesting every user to do the same choices as yours, that
> makes you a fascist pig?

Touché...
-- 
Climate is what you expect but weather is what you get.
Mark Twain

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#79671

On 2025-12-21, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:

> Le 21-12-2025, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>
>> On 21 Dec 2025 14:52:06 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>>> There are no "conventions" in GNU/Linux.
>>> 
>>> There are.
>>
>> Conventions = Defaults
>
> No. There are always defaults, there is no way around, a variable must
> have a default value. That doesn't mean that lot of people with agree to
> chose the same defaults. That's the difference between convention and
> default.

If the variable is uninitialized, the default might be undefined.

-- 
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\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#79754

Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
> On 2025-12-21, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote:
>> No. There are always defaults, there is no way around, a variable
>> must have a default value. That doesn't mean that lot of people with
>> agree to chose the same defaults. That's the difference between
>> convention and default.
>
> If the variable is uninitialized, the default might be undefined.

In C it doesn’t have to have a coherent default at all. Consider:

   int f(void) {
     int x;
     return x-x;
   }

You might think that should always return 0 since (at least on
relatively normal platforms like x86) any integer subtracted from itself
always yields 0.

With GCC that’s what you get:

    f:
            xor     eax, eax
            ret

Compiler explorer link: https://godbolt.org/z/nshWTG96G


However Clang exploits the freedom the language specification gives it
to return whatever is lying around in the eax register:

    f:
            ret

Compiler explorer: https://godbolt.org/z/xfv5zzxM1

(It’s exploiting the undefined behavior rules.)

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#79689

Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:

> Le 21-12-2025, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>> On 21 Dec 2025 14:52:06 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>>> There are no "conventions" in GNU/Linux.
>>> 
>>> There are.
>>
>> Conventions = Defaults
>
> No. There are always defaults, there is no way around, a variable must
> have a default value. That doesn't mean that lot of people with agree to
> chose the same defaults. That's the difference between convention and
> default.
>
>> Those fascist pigs can eliminate user configurability and thereby
>> force everyone into a design of their own choosing.
>
> As you are requesting every user to do the same choices as yours, that
> makes you a fascist pig?

He's a freakin' whiner.

-- 
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		-- Larry Wall on Perl's apparent ugliness

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#79720

On 12/21/25 09:30, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Dec 2025 11:27:28 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> 
>>
>>> Installing it is simple.  Just copy to "~/.fonts"
>>> and execute "fc-cache -r."  That's all.
>>
>> The newer convention is ~/.local/share/fonts.
>>
> 
> There are no "conventions" in GNU/Linux.  The user is King and
> determines all.
> 
> The user can specify any font directory in "/etc/fonts/local.conf"
> and fontconfig will obey.
> 
> If I want to keep fonts in "/planet/pluto/darkside/fonts" then
> I certainly can do so.  It is MY system and therefore MY choice --
> and that's how it always should be.
> 
> However, distro lackey have no choice but to conform to conventions.
> 
> They are a sad lot.
> 
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!


   Well, glad YOU have the time, energy and talent ......

   Most of us have other things to do during a day.

   The 'distro default' usually ain't so bad - and
   takes minutes, rather than days/weeks, to get
   working.

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#79724

On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 04:49:21 -0500, c186282 wrote:

> 
>    Well, glad YOU have the time, energy and talent ......
> 
>    Most of us have other things to do during a day.
> 
>    The 'distro default' usually ain't so bad - and
>    takes minutes, rather than days/weeks, to get
>    working.
>

You have the wrong attitude.

GNU/Linux is not just another appliance that is pulled out of
the closet when needed.  GNU/Linux is a whole philosophy and
way of life, and as such it calls out for total user engagement.

The personal computer, and computers in general, constitute a
technical revolution never before experienced in human culture
and GNU/Linux allows a deep immersion into that revolution.
The GNU/Linux user is constantly learning new things and, ideally,
constantly contributing back to the open source community.

If all that you desire is a closed box that performs highly
circumscribed tasks then please go to Microslop or Apphole.
Those who choose GNU/Linux should be prepared for a wild,
but ultimately very rewarding, technical adventure.

Using Microslop/Apphole is like going camping with a giant
Winnebago at a campground with electrical hookups, plumbing,
and even wifi.

Using GNU/Linux is like roughing it in an expansive wilderness
with nothing but a backpack and compass.

I'll let you determine which one leads to a better communion
with the wonders of nature.



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Hail Linux!  Hail FOSS!  Hail Stallman!

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#79883

On 2025-12-23 12:19, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 04:49:21 -0500, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>
>>     Well, glad YOU have the time, energy and talent ......
>>
>>     Most of us have other things to do during a day.
>>
>>     The 'distro default' usually ain't so bad - and
>>     takes minutes, rather than days/weeks, to get
>>     working.
>>
> 
> You have the wrong attitude.
> 
> GNU/Linux is not just another appliance that is pulled out of
> the closet when needed.  GNU/Linux is a whole philosophy and
> way of life, and as such it calls out for total user engagement.
> 
> The personal computer, and computers in general, constitute a
> technical revolution never before experienced in human culture
> and GNU/Linux allows a deep immersion into that revolution.
> The GNU/Linux user is constantly learning new things and, ideally,
> constantly contributing back to the open source community.
> 
> If all that you desire is a closed box that performs highly
> circumscribed tasks then please go to Microslop or Apphole.
> Those who choose GNU/Linux should be prepared for a wild,
> but ultimately very rewarding, technical adventure.
> 
> Using Microslop/Apphole is like going camping with a giant
> Winnebago at a campground with electrical hookups, plumbing,
> and even wifi.
> 
> Using GNU/Linux is like roughing it in an expansive wilderness
> with nothing but a backpack and compass.
> 
> I'll let you determine which one leads to a better communion
> with the wonders of nature.

Yawn...

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#79895

On 12/26/25 16:13, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-12-23 12:19, Farley Flud wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 04:49:21 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>     Well, glad YOU have the time, energy and talent ......
>>>
>>>     Most of us have other things to do during a day.
>>>
>>>     The 'distro default' usually ain't so bad - and
>>>     takes minutes, rather than days/weeks, to get
>>>     working.
>>>
>>
>> You have the wrong attitude.
>>
>> GNU/Linux is not just another appliance that is pulled out of
>> the closet when needed.  GNU/Linux is a whole philosophy and
>> way of life, and as such it calls out for total user engagement.
>>
>> The personal computer, and computers in general, constitute a
>> technical revolution never before experienced in human culture
>> and GNU/Linux allows a deep immersion into that revolution.
>> The GNU/Linux user is constantly learning new things and, ideally,
>> constantly contributing back to the open source community.
>>
>> If all that you desire is a closed box that performs highly
>> circumscribed tasks then please go to Microslop or Apphole.
>> Those who choose GNU/Linux should be prepared for a wild,
>> but ultimately very rewarding, technical adventure.
>>
>> Using Microslop/Apphole is like going camping with a giant
>> Winnebago at a campground with electrical hookups, plumbing,
>> and even wifi.
>>
>> Using GNU/Linux is like roughing it in an expansive wilderness
>> with nothing but a backpack and compass.
>>
>> I'll let you determine which one leads to a better communion
>> with the wonders of nature.
> 
> Yawn...

   Well ... I'm not it THAT much of a hurry to diss
   him if he has the time/energy/talent to super-
   customize. Updates make such changes rather volatile
   alas ...

   USUALLY these days you can make rather fine changes
   from the CL or especially from a GUI app that will
   cover almost ANY sane use situation. Wasn't like
   that in the Bad Old Days however.

   So, you really don't HAVE to "rough it" with modern
   Linux (or even most BSDs). Of course it IS "rough"
   compared to Win ... but that's become a system for
   idiots and babies at this point.

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#79924

On 2025-12-27 05:14, c186282 wrote:
> On 12/26/25 16:13, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-12-23 12:19, Farley Flud wrote:
>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 04:49:21 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>     Well, glad YOU have the time, energy and talent ......
>>>>
>>>>     Most of us have other things to do during a day.
>>>>
>>>>     The 'distro default' usually ain't so bad - and
>>>>     takes minutes, rather than days/weeks, to get
>>>>     working.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You have the wrong attitude.
>>>
>>> GNU/Linux is not just another appliance that is pulled out of
>>> the closet when needed.  GNU/Linux is a whole philosophy and
>>> way of life, and as such it calls out for total user engagement.
>>>
>>> The personal computer, and computers in general, constitute a
>>> technical revolution never before experienced in human culture
>>> and GNU/Linux allows a deep immersion into that revolution.
>>> The GNU/Linux user is constantly learning new things and, ideally,
>>> constantly contributing back to the open source community.
>>>
>>> If all that you desire is a closed box that performs highly
>>> circumscribed tasks then please go to Microslop or Apphole.
>>> Those who choose GNU/Linux should be prepared for a wild,
>>> but ultimately very rewarding, technical adventure.
>>>
>>> Using Microslop/Apphole is like going camping with a giant
>>> Winnebago at a campground with electrical hookups, plumbing,
>>> and even wifi.
>>>
>>> Using GNU/Linux is like roughing it in an expansive wilderness
>>> with nothing but a backpack and compass.
>>>
>>> I'll let you determine which one leads to a better communion
>>> with the wonders of nature.
>>
>> Yawn...
> 
>    Well ... I'm not it THAT much of a hurry to diss
>    him if he has the time/energy/talent to super-
>    customize. Updates make such changes rather volatile
>    alas ...
> 
>    USUALLY these days you can make rather fine changes
>    from the CL or especially from a GUI app that will
>    cover almost ANY sane use situation. Wasn't like
>    that in the Bad Old Days however.
> 
>    So, you really don't HAVE to "rough it" with modern
>    Linux (or even most BSDs). Of course it IS "rough"
>    compared to Win ... but that's become a system for
>    idiots and babies at this point.

Sure, if he wants to customize all the way, that's fine, I will not 
object. But telling the rest of the world how stupid they are for not 
doing like him?

Linux is many things different for many different people.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#79938

On 27/12/2025 20:59, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-12-27 05:14, c186282 wrote:
>> On 12/26/25 16:13, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>> On 2025-12-23 12:19, Farley Flud wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 04:49:21 -0500, c186282 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Well, glad YOU have the time, energy and talent ......
>>>>>
>>>>>     Most of us have other things to do during a day.
>>>>>
>>>>>     The 'distro default' usually ain't so bad - and
>>>>>     takes minutes, rather than days/weeks, to get
>>>>>     working.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You have the wrong attitude.
>>>>
>>>> GNU/Linux is not just another appliance that is pulled out of
>>>> the closet when needed.  GNU/Linux is a whole philosophy and
>>>> way of life, and as such it calls out for total user engagement.
>>>>
>>>> The personal computer, and computers in general, constitute a
>>>> technical revolution never before experienced in human culture
>>>> and GNU/Linux allows a deep immersion into that revolution.
>>>> The GNU/Linux user is constantly learning new things and, ideally,
>>>> constantly contributing back to the open source community.
>>>>
>>>> If all that you desire is a closed box that performs highly
>>>> circumscribed tasks then please go to Microslop or Apphole.
>>>> Those who choose GNU/Linux should be prepared for a wild,
>>>> but ultimately very rewarding, technical adventure.
>>>>
>>>> Using Microslop/Apphole is like going camping with a giant
>>>> Winnebago at a campground with electrical hookups, plumbing,
>>>> and even wifi.
>>>>
>>>> Using GNU/Linux is like roughing it in an expansive wilderness
>>>> with nothing but a backpack and compass.
>>>>
>>>> I'll let you determine which one leads to a better communion
>>>> with the wonders of nature.
>>>
>>> Yawn...
>>
>>    Well ... I'm not it THAT much of a hurry to diss
>>    him if he has the time/energy/talent to super-
>>    customize. Updates make such changes rather volatile
>>    alas ...
>>
>>    USUALLY these days you can make rather fine changes
>>    from the CL or especially from a GUI app that will
>>    cover almost ANY sane use situation. Wasn't like
>>    that in the Bad Old Days however.
>>
>>    So, you really don't HAVE to "rough it" with modern
>>    Linux (or even most BSDs). Of course it IS "rough"
>>    compared to Win ... but that's become a system for
>>    idiots and babies at this point.
> 
> Sure, if he wants to customize all the way, that's fine, I will not 
> object. But telling the rest of the world how stupid they are for not 
> doing like him?
> 
> Linux is many things different for many different people.
> 
> 
The world is full of lazy people with Great Ideas that they want someone 
else to implement.

I am not free of that disease either, but I realize that my wishes are 
not commands.
I am no Putin...

-- 
Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead 
to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

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#79960

On 2025-12-28 00:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 27/12/2025 20:59, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-12-27 05:14, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 12/26/25 16:13, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-12-23 12:19, Farley Flud wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2025 04:49:21 -0500, c186282 wrote:


>> Sure, if he wants to customize all the way, that's fine, I will not 
>> object. But telling the rest of the world how stupid they are for not 
>> doing like him?
>>
>> Linux is many things different for many different people.
>>
>>
> The world is full of lazy people with Great Ideas that they want someone 
> else to implement.
> 
> I am not free of that disease either, but I realize that my wishes are 
> not commands.
> I am no Putin...

Heh :-)

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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