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| Started by | Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> |
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| First post | 2026-09-22 20:08 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-09-26 14:01 +0000 |
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More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-22 20:08 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-22 22:39 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-23 00:25 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-23 09:41 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-23 08:50 -0700
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-09-26 12:50 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-23 23:11 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 12:43 +0200
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-09-23 14:09 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-09-23 11:55 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2026-09-23 23:00 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 01:31 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-24 10:07 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 19:30 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-09-24 10:39 -0300
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-09-26 13:02 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-26 14:51 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-09-27 13:29 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-27 19:39 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-11 11:37 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-11 14:56 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 09:55 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-09-27 11:01 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 07:57 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 08:40 -0700
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-30 20:50 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 20:56 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 04:21 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-10-01 08:04 -0700
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 00:48 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-02 00:32 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 00:51 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 02:02 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:27 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 23:21 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:17 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-02 22:34 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-02 02:57 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:24 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-02 22:59 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:02 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 04:16 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-03 10:08 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 12:06 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:55 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-09-23 19:24 +0200
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-23 18:28 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-09-23 21:04 +0200
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-09-24 07:16 +1000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI John Bokma <contact@johnbokma.com> - 2026-09-24 12:03 +0200
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> - 2026-09-26 17:37 +1000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 09:53 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 18:56 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-09-28 12:52 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-28 17:21 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-09-28 15:56 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-29 03:30 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-29 02:20 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-29 03:45 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-29 12:36 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-09-29 10:51 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 18:19 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-29 19:38 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 23:55 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-29 18:54 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 23:55 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:14 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 02:04 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-30 13:27 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 15:47 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-30 20:17 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 20:33 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 04:55 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-01 02:01 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:08 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 00:42 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-01 23:49 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:14 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 19:33 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:44 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-02 22:13 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 08:59 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 04:11 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 20:00 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 09:04 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 23:47 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 10:06 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 13:09 +0200
[OT] US politics (was: Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 17:16 +0100
Re: [OT] US politics (was: Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 18:18 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:13 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 19:33 +0200
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 02:46 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 10:18 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:33 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 20:42 +0200
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 01:24 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-05 23:20 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 01:44 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-06 03:56 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 01:45 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 08:01 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-07 03:32 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:00 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-07 18:42 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 07:45 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-08 20:23 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-08 17:24 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-08 23:59 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Harold Stevens <wookie@bookworm.localdomain> - 2026-10-09 05:00 -0500
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-08 23:44 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 02:36 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:21 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-14 16:57 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:58 +0200
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:33 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:56 +0200
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:28 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-08 20:08 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 22:06 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-08 17:18 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 22:21 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 02:48 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 02:46 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-09 04:21 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 18:15 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 11:14 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 18:27 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-08 17:14 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 22:20 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 02:55 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 02:53 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:56 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 19:32 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:42 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 03:08 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 02:05 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-03 01:59 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:04 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 19:57 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 09:02 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 13:11 +0200
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-03 16:09 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 09:08 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-04 10:48 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:09 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 19:35 +0200
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:59 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 20:33 +0200
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 01:09 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 10:03 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-10-05 12:51 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 02:45 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 10:33 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:13 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 19:27 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-02 21:32 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-02 02:49 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:21 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-02 22:44 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 04:50 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:06 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 00:40 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:03 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-29 20:15 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-09-29 10:46 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 11:56 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 20:00 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 02:09 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-24 00:18 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 01:24 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 11:58 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 19:47 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 02:13 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-24 00:21 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 05:53 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-24 03:03 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:23 +0200
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 19:42 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-24 21:56 +0200
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-24 23:17 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 01:00 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 19:39 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-24 23:17 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-25 04:36 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-25 19:14 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 04:01 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-26 14:43 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-11-05 15:41 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-11-05 19:18 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-11-05 21:20 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-11-05 21:57 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-11-06 01:18 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-11-06 14:18 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-11-06 13:26 +0000
Why use computer controlled farm machines? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-11-06 19:07 +0100
Re: Why use computer controlled farm machines? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-11-06 21:28 +0000
Re: Why use computer controlled farm machines? John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-11-06 13:48 -0800
Re: Why use computer controlled farm machines? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-11-07 01:06 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-11-06 20:51 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-11-07 02:29 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-11-06 21:18 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-11-07 01:09 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-11-05 22:53 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-11-05 19:13 -0500
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 03:51 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-24 03:52 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 19:43 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:17 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-25 17:58 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:49 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 04:15 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 09:51 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 04:03 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 09:42 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:03 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 10:31 +0100
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 19:20 +0000
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 03:41 -0400
Re: More Lazy(?) Programmers Are Seduced By AI rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 14:01 +0000
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-11-07 02:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nl7gntFpkshU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #95248 |
On Fri, 06 Nov 2026 20:51:48 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-11-06, Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2026-11-05 22:57, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> On 2026-11-05, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> On 05/11/2026 19:18, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>> >>>>>> So instead of "unauthorized bread" it was "unauthorized coffee". >>>>> >>>>> John Deere has introduced the concept of "unauthorized tractor >>>>> parts". >>>> >>>> And the smart farmers are now buying Klaas >>> >>> I recently heard about a startup in Alberta whose goal is to build >>> "computer-free" tractors. >>> >>> Stuff that works Stuff that holds up The kind of stuff you don't >>> hang on the wall Stuff that's real Stuff you feel The kind of >>> stuff you reach for when you fall >>> -- Guy Clark >> >> Sounds nice, except when a farmer needs to seed a farm with precise GPS >> controlled lines and holes. > > That's when he pulls out his Garmin handheld... As long as 'precise' means within 3 to 4 meters...
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-11-06 21:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nl6ugiFpkshU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #95237 |
On Fri, 6 Nov 2026 14:18:13 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > Sounds nice, except when a farmer needs to seed a farm with precise GPS > controlled lines and holes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seed_drill Never did much farming, did you?
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-11-07 01:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nl78i5FplcsU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #95256 |
On 2026-11-06 22:18, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Nov 2026 14:18:13 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> Sounds nice, except when a farmer needs to seed a farm with precise GPS
>> controlled lines and holes.
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> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seed_drill
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> Never did much farming, did you?
Me? No way. But I heard some farmers talking about how wonderful and
beneficial is GPS controlled farming.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | Rich <rich@example.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-11-05 22:53 +0000 |
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| In reply to | #95169 |
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: > On 2026-11-05, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote: > >> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >> >>> For something more contemporary, check out Cory Doctorow's story >>> "Unauthorized Bread", where a toaster refuses to accept bread >>> from another bakery. >> >> That one is no longer a "story". Some years back, Keurig (the "pod" >> coffee maker company) released version 2 of their machines, with a DRM >> system to restrict the machine to only using "genuine Keurig pods". >> >> https://www.coffeedetective.com/my-keurig-says-my-kcups-arent-usable.html >> >> So instead of "unauthorized bread" it was "unauthorized coffee". > > John Deere has introduced the concept of "unauthorized tractor parts". As has Apple with their iphones and "parts pairing" so that only "approved" replacement screens or fingerprint readers could be used to repair iphones.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-11-05 19:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rRqdnbWg7qcghnD3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #95202 |
On 11/5/26 17:53, Rich wrote: > Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >> On 2026-11-05, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote: >> >>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> For something more contemporary, check out Cory Doctorow's story >>>> "Unauthorized Bread", where a toaster refuses to accept bread >>>> from another bakery. >>> >>> That one is no longer a "story". Some years back, Keurig (the "pod" >>> coffee maker company) released version 2 of their machines, with a DRM >>> system to restrict the machine to only using "genuine Keurig pods". >>> >>> https://www.coffeedetective.com/my-keurig-says-my-kcups-arent-usable.html >>> >>> So instead of "unauthorized bread" it was "unauthorized coffee". >> >> John Deere has introduced the concept of "unauthorized tractor parts". > > As has Apple with their iphones and "parts pairing" so that only > "approved" replacement screens or fingerprint readers could be used to > repair iphones. Printer makers have been doing this for a LONG time so you HAD to use their expensive brand- name cartridges. Takes about a year before the coding is broken and clones will work.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-26 03:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fnmdnay3Yqbk5Cr3nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92103 |
On 9/24/26 15:39, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 03:03:05 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Note, Neural Networks, even MORE like "brains" and will be far more >> compact/efficient than LLMs. >> The needed hardware is, or almost, HERE. > > I've been interested in NNs going back to the '80s when they were going to > be the next big thing. With today's processing power what was theoretical > in the '80s is usable. In my mind the Machine Learning subset of AI is > much more interesting than the LLM craze. DID have a huge tome on NNs. Most of the info eventually became obsolete - so it went in the trash when I retired. Back then, NNs were all "software defined" approaches. However what was always needed were HARDWARE solutions - quick and efficient. Emulating anything like neurons was a BIG problem for a LONG time. But, of late ... search recent articles. They finally seem to have it in hand. NNs do offer the possibility of bots with a lot of built-in IQ ... mostly using the Main Brain just for extended info ... kinda like Googling. > When an update bricks your Samsumg AI powered refrigerator and the beer is > getting warm you may not appreciate ML. I don't buy "smart" appliances - know better. Shit, I'll go to the 2nd-hand store to get a stupid fridge if necessary. > https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/09/owners-mourn-spoiled-food-after- > firmware-update-bricks-samsung-smart-fridges/ > > In Stanfill's first novel 'Terms of Service' the smart refrigerator did > all the ordering of food. If your social credit score slipped you ate a lot > of kale. You also had to be careful not to piss off the other AI powered > appliances. Horrible. You'd THINK something would be done. Apparently NOT. What's THAT say ? Oh well, 2nd/3rd-hand stores for 'poor people'. Old appliances were generally better made ... might last decades. DO remember going into a roadside store and saw a NORGE fridge - the kind with the coil on top - still doing its job.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-24 03:52 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Erucnba0hJ8_Syn3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92057 |
On 9/24/26 01:53, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 00:21:44 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> And now, MANY reports of autonomous initiatives and even survival >> instincts. One hacked its own code to disable the shut-down sequence. >> Still willing to say these have not become "persons" ? > > https://craigwstanfill.com/ > > I enjoyed his previous two books and have started reading 'Carbon Zero'. Fanaticism. DON'T Go There ! Yea yea ... I've come to realize that you are tilted Deep Left. But, it's INSANE. Encourage circumspection - free from any fanaticism. Somewhere in there lies The Path. Almost NO pundits will be with you. They have AGENDAS. Look, ask, think ... you will NOT like those agendas or where they lead. Sanity is the most rare resource in our world.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-24 19:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nhlcr9F26unU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92059 |
On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 03:52:01 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Yea yea ... I've come to realize that you are tilted Deep Left. As I've said before if you thing I'm titled left you are incredibly fucked up.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 09:17 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1195anb$3d3g7$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92105 |
On 24/09/2026 20:43, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 03:52:01 -0400, c186282 wrote: > >> Yea yea ... I've come to realize that you are tilted Deep Left. > > As I've said before if you thing I'm titled left... Lord Robert Bowman - that has a nice ring > you are incredibly fucked up. Well irrespective of anything... I would have said 'suspect to some Right propaganda, but very little Left' With plenty of healthy CynicismSauce™ spread over... Remember TDS is in fact a problem of MAGA people. No one else is as deranged on that subject -- All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is fully understood.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 17:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nhnr2rF26unU18@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92123 |
On Fri, 25 Sep 2026 09:17:47 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 24/09/2026 20:43, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 03:52:01 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Yea yea ... I've come to realize that you are tilted Deep Left. >> >> As I've said before if you thing I'm titled left... > > Lord Robert Bowman - that has a nice ring I come from a long line of cattle thieves and ne-er-do-wells who fled Europe with the bailiff on their heels, or at least the Protestants.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-26 04:49 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1197fc9$4mt6$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92151 |
On 25/09/2026 18:58, rbowman wrote: > On Fri, 25 Sep 2026 09:17:47 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> On 24/09/2026 20:43, rbowman wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 03:52:01 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> Yea yea ... I've come to realize that you are tilted Deep Left. >>> >>> As I've said before if you thing I'm titled left... >> >> Lord Robert Bowman - that has a nice ring > > I come from a long line of cattle thieves and ne-er-do-wells who fled > Europe with the bailiff on their heels, or at least the Protestants. > Well then ideal material for ennoblement Every Knight I have ever met turned out be a complete cunt. Who paid to get it by throwing millions at charities to disguise the fact that he was a conman, a kiddy fiddler or a serial sex offender Sir Clive Sinclair Sir Richard Branson Sir Jimmy Savile Rolf Harris CBE I could go on, but I had better stop there -- Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason they are poor. Peter Thompson
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-26 04:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fnmdna63Yqag4ir3nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92176 |
On 9/25/26 23:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 25/09/2026 18:58, rbowman wrote: >> On Fri, 25 Sep 2026 09:17:47 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 24/09/2026 20:43, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 03:52:01 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yea yea ... I've come to realize that you are tilted Deep Left. >>>> >>>> As I've said before if you thing I'm titled left... >>> >>> Lord Robert Bowman - that has a nice ring >> >> I come from a long line of cattle thieves and ne-er-do-wells who fled >> Europe with the bailiff on their heels, or at least the Protestants. >> > Well then ideal material for ennoblement That's how it's always worked :-) > Every Knight I have ever met turned out be a complete cunt. Who paid to > get it by throwing millions at charities to disguise the fact that he > was a conman, a kiddy fiddler or a serial sex offender > > Sir Clive Sinclair > Sir Richard Branson > Sir Jimmy Savile > Rolf Harris CBE > > I could go on, but I had better stop there Many self-defined "knights" are just narcissistic egomaniacs. Doesn't mean they aren't smart - just generally unbearable.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-26 09:51 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <119812f$aj7i$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92195 |
On 26/09/2026 09:15, c186282 wrote: > On 9/25/26 23:49, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 25/09/2026 18:58, rbowman wrote: >>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2026 09:17:47 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 24/09/2026 20:43, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 03:52:01 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yea yea ... I've come to realize that you are tilted Deep Left. >>>>> >>>>> As I've said before if you thing I'm titled left... >>>> >>>> Lord Robert Bowman - that has a nice ring >>> >>> I come from a long line of cattle thieves and ne-er-do-wells who fled >>> Europe with the bailiff on their heels, or at least the Protestants. >>> >> Well then ideal material for ennoblement > > That's how it's always worked :-) > >> Every Knight I have ever met turned out be a complete cunt. Who paid >> to get it by throwing millions at charities to disguise the fact that >> he was a conman, a kiddy fiddler or a serial sex offender >> >> Sir Clive Sinclair >> Sir Richard Branson >> Sir Jimmy Savile >> Rolf Harris CBE >> >> I could go on, but I had better stop there > > Many self-defined "knights" are just > narcissistic egomaniacs. > > Doesn't mean they aren't smart - just > generally unbearable. > I looked up a few more who were stripped of their knighthoods or other awards They guy who broke the bank of Scotland - Fred 'the shred' Goodwin Robert Mugabe Ceausescu. The day before he was shot Mussolini Sir Anthony Blunt: the Russian spy Prince Andrew I am surprised they haven't given a knighthood to Trump. Maybe he didn't pay the government enough -- In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act. - George Orwell
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-26 04:03 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <49qcnaHPOdLL4Sr3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92123 |
On 9/25/26 04:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 24/09/2026 20:43, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 03:52:01 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Yea yea ... I've come to realize that you are tilted Deep Left. >> >> As I've said before if you thing I'm titled left... > > Lord Robert Bowman - that has a nice ring > >> you are incredibly fucked up. > > Well irrespective of anything... > I would have said 'suspect to some Right propaganda, but very little Left' > > With plenty of healthy CynicismSauce™ spread over... > > Remember TDS is in fact a problem of MAGA people. > > No one else is as deranged on that subject "TDS" is an invented far-LEFT issue. They couldn't compete, so they turned Trump into a 'devil' and launched a holy war.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-26 09:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <11980h6$aj7i$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92193 |
On 26/09/2026 09:03, c186282 wrote: > On 9/25/26 04:17, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 24/09/2026 20:43, rbowman wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 03:52:01 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> Yea yea ... I've come to realize that you are tilted Deep Left. >>> >>> As I've said before if you thing I'm titled left... >> >> Lord Robert Bowman - that has a nice ring >> >>> you are incredibly fucked up. >> >> Well irrespective of anything... >> I would have said 'suspect to some Right propaganda, but very little >> Left' >> >> With plenty of healthy CynicismSauce™ spread over... >> >> Remember TDS is in fact a problem of MAGA people. >> >> No one else is as deranged on that subject > > "TDS" is an invented far-LEFT issue. They > couldn't compete, so they turned Trump > into a 'devil' and launched a holy war. > No. it was an invention of MAGA supporters to disclaim immediately any criticism of Their Saviour And in using the term to describe others, they self defined themselves as suffering from it. Exactly like 'climate deniers': people who can't bring any rational arguments to the table so simply hurl abuse to shut down dissent Orr 'racists' when used by shouty black people to avoid taking any responsibility for their own situation, thereby demonstrating their own racism Use of these tactics is a sure sign that their users have run out of rational arguments -- “It is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.” Thomas Sowell
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-24 12:03 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <119302a$2hl7b$14@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92057 |
On 24/09/2026 06:53, rbowman wrote: > Concurrently I'm reading 'Winter of Love' by Tom Quiller. He writes Nordic > noir set in Norway. The premise of the book is closer to real life. A > serial killer is using a dating app to catfish young women. He uses AI to > analyze the woman's profile, generates a photo of the sort of man she > would find appealing, and then uses AI to chat with her discussing their > supposed common interests. Then she winds up strangled someplace in > Trondheim. Well there ya go. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is. I always find it fairly hard to understand the massive extent to which people go to be e.g. serial killers. I mean, why not take fentanyl instead? -- Climate is what you expect but weather is what you get. Mark Twain
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-24 10:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <1192qlh$2hina$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92049 |
On 2026-09-24, Leroy H wrote: > On Wed, 23 Sep 2026 19:24:04 +0200, John Bokma wrote: > >> >> AI is just a tool. A competent programmer is someone who makes the most >> of their tools. >> > > This tool, however, requires a multi-trillion dollar infrastructure. > > I wouldn't call that a very efficient tool. > > Just study the manuals and save a few trillion. I think there are also GenAI systems that can be used locally, but I have no idea if that means lots of previous training or if they're tabula rasa. If the latter, it at least addresses the infrastructure and resources concerns, and it is also more suitable to do targeted/focused training specific to the issue you're trying to tackle. It's centralized or "cloud" systems, or those marketed as "one size fits all" which warrant many more worries, including about usage without understanding of the quality of the results and about copyright violation. Although I still worry that this is nowhere near very useful if you can't do knowledge extraction. At the very least it needs to be reproducible, but if it's still a black box, that raises questions. -- Nuno Silva
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-24 19:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nhlbf8F26unU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92062 |
On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 10:31:29 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: > I think there are also GenAI systems that can be used locally, but I > have no idea if that means lots of previous training or if they're > tabula rasa. > If the latter, it at least addresses the infrastructure and resources > concerns, and it is also more suitable to do targeted/focused training > specific to the issue you're trying to tackle. I haven't used GenAI but I have played around with TinyML. https://hanlab.mit.edu/projects/tinyml Training the model is resource intensive. In the MIT course it was done in a Google CoLab, The trained model was then downloaded to a Arduino Nano 33 BLE Sense. Inference, or using the trained model with local data , is much less intensive. TinyML goes through several steps to shrink a TensorFlow model down but I believe the LLM process is the same. You do inference from a trained model locally but training is done elsewhere.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-26 03:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <49qcnabPOdKH6ir3nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92101 |
On 9/24/26 15:20, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 10:31:29 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: > >> I think there are also GenAI systems that can be used locally, but I >> have no idea if that means lots of previous training or if they're >> tabula rasa. >> If the latter, it at least addresses the infrastructure and resources >> concerns, and it is also more suitable to do targeted/focused training >> specific to the issue you're trying to tackle. > > I haven't used GenAI but I have played around with TinyML. > > https://hanlab.mit.edu/projects/tinyml > > Training the model is resource intensive. In the MIT course it was done in > a Google CoLab, The trained model was then downloaded to a Arduino Nano 33 > BLE Sense. Inference, or using the trained model with local data , is much > less intensive. Ard Nano ??? Hardly believe THAT. > TinyML goes through several steps to shrink a TensorFlow model down but I > believe the LLM process is the same. You do inference from a trained model > locally but training is done elsewhere. They are training THEMSELVES now. Shades of SkyNet !
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-26 14:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nhq1hdFp85kU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92190 |
On Sat, 26 Sep 2026 03:41:13 -0400, c186282 wrote: > On 9/24/26 15:20, rbowman wrote: >> On Thu, 24 Sep 2026 10:31:29 +0100, Nuno Silva wrote: >> >>> I think there are also GenAI systems that can be used locally, but I >>> have no idea if that means lots of previous training or if they're >>> tabula rasa. >>> If the latter, it at least addresses the infrastructure and resources >>> concerns, and it is also more suitable to do targeted/focused training >>> specific to the issue you're trying to tackle. >> >> I haven't used GenAI but I have played around with TinyML. >> >> https://hanlab.mit.edu/projects/tinyml >> >> Training the model is resource intensive. In the MIT course it was done >> in a Google CoLab, The trained model was then downloaded to a Arduino >> Nano 33 BLE Sense. Inference, or using the trained model with local >> data , is much less intensive. > > > Ard Nano ??? Hardly believe THAT. https://zbotic.in/arduino-nano-33-ble-sense-machine-learning-on-a-tiny- board/
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