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Note : StarLink Does Not Like Heavy Rain c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-28 22:52 -0400
Re: Note : StarLink Does Not Like Heavy Rain Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-29 08:40 +0000
Re: Note : StarLink Does Not Like Heavy Rain Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2026-10-29 10:49 +0000
Fwd: Note : StarLink Does Not Like Heavy Rain c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-30 03:31 -0400
Re: Fwd: Note : StarLink Does Not Like Heavy Rain Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2026-10-30 10:06 +0000
Re: Fwd: Note : StarLink Does Not Like Heavy Rain The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-30 11:09 +0000
Re: Fwd: Note : StarLink Does Not Like Heavy Rain The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-30 11:08 +0000
Re: Note : StarLink Does Not Like Heavy Rain c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-30 03:20 -0400
| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-28 22:52 -0400 |
| Subject | Note : StarLink Does Not Like Heavy Rain |
| Message-ID | <oeedneFhWfpyKX_3nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
As said ... signal got all wonky and erratic when a fair rainstorm came over just minutes ago. Do not have a 'perfect' position for the antenna, but fair. Screen porch left over from the pre-A/C days. Don't think it can see ALL the satellites, but usually "enough". 50-180 mbps usually.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-10-29 08:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nkgf46FeqrcU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #94769 |
c186282 wrote: > signal got all wonky and > erratic when a fair rainstorm came > over just minutes ago. <https://www.everythingrf.com/community/what-is-rain-fade> Your downlink is about 11GHz, and uplink about 14GHz
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| From | Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-29 10:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11bv8bn$38pt3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94771 |
No form of *Wireless* Internet is going to ever beat Fiber-to-the-home. *I* presently have 1G (symetrial) from the Wendell, MA municipal fiber network. In the next few years it will be upgraded from 1G to 2.5G. Rain, snow, etc. have no effect. At Thu, 29 Oct 2026 08:40:31 +0000 Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: > > c186282 wrote: > > > > signal got all wonky and > > erratic when a fair rainstorm came > > over just minutes ago. > > <https://www.everythingrf.com/community/what-is-rain-fade> > > Your downlink is about 11GHz, and uplink about 14GHz > > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-30 03:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <bNudncFH9Kho2nn3nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #94772 |
No form of *Wireless* Internet is going to ever beat Fiber-to-the-home. *I* presently have 1G (symetrial) from the Wendell, MA municipal fiber network. In the next few years it will be upgraded from 1G to 2.5G. Rain, snow, etc. have no effect. Tend to agree - until some all-new tech emerges anyhow. However my particular property is now wiring-proof. Far too many big veggies that are WAY too expensive, or illegal, to remove. Even worried about the power line (can't seem to get them to fix that mess either). Also the construction - concrete + real wood - is not friendly/aesthetic to new wiring. SO ... alas perhaps ... fiber is not for ME. Also applies to more 'rural' people. Lucky if they get an old copper phone line. And finally, I'm an old fart. I don't do games, I don't do 8k streaming for six kids. Even my crappy ATT service is fast enough. The SL has proven nice for downloading a few of the latest obese distros, but beyond that ...
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| From | Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-30 10:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11c1q7v$4tth$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94795 |
At Fri, 30 Oct 2026 03:31:59 -0400 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote: > > > > No form of *Wireless* Internet is going to ever beat Fiber-to-the-home. > *I* presently have 1G (symetrial) from the Wendell, MA municipal fiber > network. In the next few years it will be upgraded from 1G to 2.5G. > Rain, snow, etc. have no effect. > > Tend to agree - until some all-new tech emerges > anyhow. It is not a "tech" issue, but the underlying laws od physics. Wireless is allways going to be constrained by bandwith and transmission limits of *radio waves*, up to microwaves. > > However my particular property is now wiring-proof. > Far too many big veggies that are WAY too expensive, > or illegal, to remove. Even worried about the power > line (can't seem to get them to fix that mess either). > > Also the construction - concrete + real wood - is > not friendly/aesthetic to new wiring. > > SO ... alas perhaps ... fiber is not for ME. > > Also applies to more 'rural' people. Lucky if > they get an old copper phone line. > > And finally, I'm an old fart. I don't do games, > I don't do 8k streaming for six kids. Even my > crappy ATT service is fast enough. The SL has > proven nice for downloading a few of the > latest obese distros, but beyond that ... > > > -- Robert Heller -- Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller@deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-30 11:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11c1tt6$5sgi$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94802 |
On 30/10/2026 10:06, Robert Heller wrote: > It is not a "tech" issue, but the underlying laws od physics. Wireless is > allways going to be constrained by bandwith and transmission limits of *radio > waves*, up to microwaves. And optical fibres are private point to point links. No overlap between channels -- Any fool can believe in principles - and most of them do!
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-30 11:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <11c1tqt$5sgi$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94795 |
On 30/10/2026 07:31, c186282 wrote: > However my particular property is now wiring-proof. > Far too many big veggies that are WAY too expensive, > or illegal, to remove. Even worried about the power > line (can't seem to get them to fix that mess either). > There are always ways. > Also the construction - concrete + real wood - is > not friendly/aesthetic to new wiring. Who cares? beat it into submission with a Kango Good excuse to redecorate afterwards -- "I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-30 03:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <sRmcnfES1KTA2Hn3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #94771 |
On 10/29/26 04:40, Andy Burns wrote: > c186282 wrote: > > >> signal got all wonky and >> erratic when a fair rainstorm came >> over just minutes ago. > > <https://www.everythingrf.com/community/what-is-rain-fade> > > Your downlink is about 11GHz, and uplink about 14GHz Um ... OK ......... 'fast.com' tells my current up/down speed plus some latency data. I note some of the old 'speed' sites don't work anymore. My max speed seems to depend most on how many satellites the thing can see at the moment. As said, it varies between the mentioned rates. Down IS about ten times faster than UP, but that's kinda normal ADSL. Anyway, it WORKS - for MY main needs anyway. On average about 10 times faster than my crappy ATT 5G wireless router (horrible signal where I am). Have all my other stuff still on the ATT ... but did set up a mini- box for my TV so I can get online media (mostly PlutoTV). The ATT is .0.0 while the SL is .0.1, so they don't interfere. DID find some (annoying) way to get Linux to 'merge' subnets. Not gonna go that way soon. In any case, if the ATT/towers crash I have an alt, same if the Russians fuck-up SL. Two is better than one. Now a handy GUI that lists local subnets, click to choose two or more, merge to a new combined subnet - that'd be GREAT. Likely NOT gonna see it unless I write it myself and I kinda don't have the energy/enthusiasm anymore. MIGHT have been the kind of thing you'd find in old (o)SUSE/YAST but alas ......... Anyway, per thread, whatever freq SL uses is very close to some resonance of water. As such I wouldn't suggest resting your head on the conveniently-inclined antenna unless you WANT your hippocampus slow-roasted :-)
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