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| Started by | Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> |
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| First post | 2026-10-16 15:45 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-10-20 14:26 +0100 |
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The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-16 15:45 +0000
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-16 16:56 +0100
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-16 17:08 +0000
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-16 19:13 +0000
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-17 13:29 +0000
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-17 13:51 +0000
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-17 14:19 +0000
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 19:37 +0200
Re: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 11:25 +0100
Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-18 11:57 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:20 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 13:25 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:31 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:23 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-18 13:35 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 18:45 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-18 21:41 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-19 00:57 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-19 09:26 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-19 14:17 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-19 02:11 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-19 02:38 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-19 03:52 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-19 03:56 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-19 05:58 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 02:41 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-19 03:03 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-19 02:49 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-19 11:49 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 02:29 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-20 01:59 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-20 13:20 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 14:29 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-20 18:10 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-21 10:19 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 19:22 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-20 18:05 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 20:15 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-19 00:44 -0400
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-19 11:54 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-19 20:27 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:38 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 14:26 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 18:59 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-19 20:36 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 09:08 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-20 10:35 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 14:21 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 18:55 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-10-18 19:05 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 20:41 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-10-19 00:15 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-19 02:02 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 02:18 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-20 01:52 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-20 10:37 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-10-20 11:39 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 14:22 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-20 21:11 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-20 17:45 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-20 18:28 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 01:05 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-19 11:48 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-19 02:42 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 02:20 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-10-20 08:39 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-20 07:53 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-20 10:38 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 14:23 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-20 21:13 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-20 23:18 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-21 03:09 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-21 03:22 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-21 11:19 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 13:44 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-21 13:54 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-21 15:33 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-21 15:19 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 19:44 +0000
Re: names of bats "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-22 12:04 +0200
Re: names of bats Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-22 11:15 +0100
Re: names of bats "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-22 12:20 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-21 10:24 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-21 03:16 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 02:31 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-21 03:22 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-21 11:21 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 14:00 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-21 19:56 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-20 19:04 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-20 22:02 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-21 10:22 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-20 20:29 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 02:12 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-21 10:22 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 13:57 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-21 15:18 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 19:51 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-21 19:58 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-21 19:58 +0000
Margarine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-22 12:19 +0200
Re: Margarine c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-22 07:16 -0400
Re: Margarine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-22 13:46 +0200
Re: Margarine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-22 15:54 +0100
Re: Margarine rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-22 17:46 +0000
Re: Margarine Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-22 19:05 +0000
Re: Margarine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-22 15:46 +0100
Re: Margarine The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-22 15:40 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-21 10:20 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-20 17:57 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-19 20:49 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 13:21 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 19:04 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-18 14:07 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-10-18 11:45 -0700
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-18 19:27 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-19 02:30 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second ...) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-19 02:06 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 19:05 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-10-18 19:32 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2026-10-18 19:37 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-19 02:20 +0000
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-18 20:40 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-19 21:00 +0200
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 03:03 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2026-10-20 11:40 +0100
Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial (Was: The Leap Second is Dead. How Will GNU/Linux Cope?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-20 14:26 +0100
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-10-22 11:15 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: names of bats |
| Message-ID | <nju62bFf50nU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #94532 |
"Carlos E.R." wrote: > On 2026-10-21 21:44, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 15:19:19 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 21/10/2026 14:44, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 11:19:08 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> >>>>> And the letters must be the chemistry. >>>> >>>> Yes, but how lithium manganese gets to CR is a good question. >>> Coin, round >> >> I could believe that until you get to the CR123. > > I don't see how to apply the system to that one. The alternative code for a CR123A is CR17345, i.e. 17mm diameter by 34.5mm length
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-22 12:20 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: names of bats |
| Message-ID | <jk4pqmx2c5.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #94533 |
On 2026-10-22 12:15, Andy Burns wrote: > "Carlos E.R." wrote: > >> On 2026-10-21 21:44, rbowman wrote: >>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 15:19:19 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 21/10/2026 14:44, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 11:19:08 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> And the letters must be the chemistry. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, but how lithium manganese gets to CR is a good question. >>>> Coin, round >>> >>> I could believe that until you get to the CR123. >> >> I don't see how to apply the system to that one. > The alternative code for a CR123A is CR17345, > i.e. 17mm diameter by 34.5mm length Ah, that one yes. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 10:24 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <11ba0bs$3p0ft$11@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94438 |
On 21/10/2026 02:09, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-10-21 01:18, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2026-10-20, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On 2026-10-20 15:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 20/10/2026 09:38, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2026-10-20 08:39, Marc Haber wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Do people in the USA use another numbering for CR2032 batteries? >>>>>>> Or do >>>>>>> they just use the SI units there? >> >> I don't think anyone knows what the "2032" part even means. >> I didn't myself until recently, when I started correlating >> it with the numbers on other sizes of batteries (plus a >> bit of work with a measuring tape). > > I chanced on a summer news article that explained it, but I have > forgotten. Something about diameter and thickness. > >> >>>>>> 3,5 Inch Floppies are actually specced as 89 mm. In the 1990ies some >>>>>> german courts fined companied for not giving the floppy size in SI >>>>>> units, which prompty led to advertisements like "Diskette 8,89 cm". >>>>> >>>>> Wow. That's a funny one. >>>> >>>> I wonder what recording tape speeds are quoted in, in Spain >>>> Or wheel rims >>> >>> I don't remember. Cassettes, in mm/s. >>> >>> Tape reels, depends on who manufactured them. >> >> I remember seeing decks marked with both units: 7 1/2 ips / 19 cm/s, >> and 3 3/4 ips / 9.5 cm/s. So I guess cassettes would be 4.75 cm/s. >> More or less... > > > I would have to google, I don't remember :-D > > Was there double duration cassettes at half speed? > > Probably. zero quality but marginally enough for speech -- “A leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader, who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say, “We did this ourselves.” ― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 03:16 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <6dglqmxich.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #94435 |
On 2026-10-21 03:09, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-10-21 01:18, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2026-10-20, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>> I wonder what recording tape speeds are quoted in, in Spain >>>> Or wheel rims >>> >>> I don't remember. Cassettes, in mm/s. >>> >>> Tape reels, depends on who manufactured them. >> >> I remember seeing decks marked with both units: 7 1/2 ips / 19 cm/s, >> and 3 3/4 ips / 9.5 cm/s. So I guess cassettes would be 4.75 cm/s. >> More or less... > > > I would have to google, I don't remember :-D 4.76 cm/s says google. > > Was there double duration cassettes at half speed? Yes! Says google. 2.38 cm/s :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassette_tape -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 02:31 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <njqmfuFei39U67@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #94435 |
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 23:18:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > I don't think anyone knows what the "2032" part even means. > I didn't myself until recently, when I started correlating it with the > numbers on other sizes of batteries (plus a bit of work with a measuring > tape). You figure it out when you find you have a 2032 but really need a 2012, 2016, 2020, or 2025. Then there are the cylindrical lithium-ios batteries. I've got some 18650s, probably the most common, but there are a number of other sizes, one of which is dimensionaly the same as an AA, or the 18500 which is a fat AA. If I were dictator of the world there would be a lot fewer battery sizes, oil filter types, and so forth.
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 03:22 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <DdWBS.93421$TYg.56879@fx21.iad> |
| In reply to | #94446 |
On 2026-10-21, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 23:18:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> I don't think anyone knows what the "2032" part even means. >> I didn't myself until recently, when I started correlating it with the >> numbers on other sizes of batteries (plus a bit of work with a measuring >> tape). > > You figure it out when you find you have a 2032 but really need a 2012, > 2016, 2020, or 2025. > > Then there are the cylindrical lithium-ios batteries. I've got some > 18650s, probably the most common, but there are a number of other sizes, > one of which is dimensionaly the same as an AA, or the 18500 which is a > fat AA. > > If I were dictator of the world there would be a lot fewer battery sizes, > oil filter types, and so forth. I wonder how many corporations would put a price on your head. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 11:21 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <spcmqmxgoo.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #94446 |
On 2026-10-21 04:31, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 23:18:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> I don't think anyone knows what the "2032" part even means. >> I didn't myself until recently, when I started correlating it with the >> numbers on other sizes of batteries (plus a bit of work with a measuring >> tape). > > You figure it out when you find you have a 2032 but really need a 2012, > 2016, 2020, or 2025. But it doesn't matter that much, does it? The holder may actually be able to hold a variety of sizes. Voltage is the same. Slight variation on capability. > > Then there are the cylindrical lithium-ios batteries. I've got some > 18650s, probably the most common, but there are a number of other sizes, > one of which is dimensionaly the same as an AA, or the 18500 which is a > fat AA. > > If I were dictator of the world there would be a lot fewer battery sizes, > oil filter types, and so forth. Aye! :-D -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 14:00 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <njrus2F3j5uU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #94466 |
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 11:21:32 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-10-21 04:31, rbowman wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 23:18:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> >>> I don't think anyone knows what the "2032" part even means. >>> I didn't myself until recently, when I started correlating it with the >>> numbers on other sizes of batteries (plus a bit of work with a >>> measuring tape). >> >> You figure it out when you find you have a 2032 but really need a 2012, >> 2016, 2020, or 2025. > > But it doesn't matter that much, does it? The holder may actually be > able to hold a variety of sizes. Voltage is the same. Slight variation > on capability. I've never seen a holder that can accept another size. I think some can stack two 2016s but its to get a higher voltage than a 2032.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 19:56 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <8vanqmxmhn.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #94490 |
On 2026-10-21 16:00, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 11:21:32 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2026-10-21 04:31, rbowman wrote: >>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 23:18:44 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>> >>>> I don't think anyone knows what the "2032" part even means. >>>> I didn't myself until recently, when I started correlating it with the >>>> numbers on other sizes of batteries (plus a bit of work with a >>>> measuring tape). >>> >>> You figure it out when you find you have a 2032 but really need a 2012, >>> 2016, 2020, or 2025. >> >> But it doesn't matter that much, does it? The holder may actually be >> able to hold a variety of sizes. Voltage is the same. Slight variation >> on capability. > > I've never seen a holder that can accept another size. I think some can > stack two 2016s but its to get a higher voltage than a 2032. You could use a 2025 instead of a 2030 or 2032. As long as the holder has a bit of spring. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-20 19:04 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <sXOBS.7016$5Iy.2789@fx04.iad> |
| In reply to | #94380 |
On 2026-10-20, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> wrote: > Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> Do people in the USA use another numbering for CR2032 batteries? Or do >> they just use the SI units there? > > 3,5 Inch Floppies are actually specced as 89 mm. In the 1990ies some > german courts fined companied for not giving the floppy size in SI > units, which prompty led to advertisements like "Diskette 8,89 cm". What amuses me is when I go to the grocery store for some butter and it's marked "454 g". So how metric are we, really? Give a man 25.4 mm, and he'll take 1.609 km. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-20 22:02 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <80ukqmxqvs.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #94421 |
On 2026-10-20 21:04, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-10-20, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> wrote: > >> Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> Do people in the USA use another numbering for CR2032 batteries? Or do >>> they just use the SI units there? >> >> 3,5 Inch Floppies are actually specced as 89 mm. In the 1990ies some >> german courts fined companied for not giving the floppy size in SI >> units, which prompty led to advertisements like "Diskette 8,89 cm". > > What amuses me is when I go to the grocery store for some butter > and it's marked "454 g". So how metric are we, really? Maybe the machines can not be adjusted. > > Give a man 25.4 mm, and he'll take 1.609 km. > -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 10:22 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <11ba082$3p0ft$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94429 |
On 20/10/2026 21:02, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-10-20 21:04, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2026-10-20, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> wrote: >> >>> Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Do people in the USA use another numbering for CR2032 batteries? Or do >>>> they just use the SI units there? >>> >>> 3,5 Inch Floppies are actually specced as 89 mm. In the 1990ies some >>> german courts fined companied for not giving the floppy size in SI >>> units, which prompty led to advertisements like "Diskette 8,89 cm". >> >> What amuses me is when I go to the grocery store for some butter >> and it's marked "454 g". So how metric are we, really? > > Maybe the machines can not be adjusted. > Maybe it's simply cheaper to comply with stupid EU harmonisation rules by printing new packaging -- “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ― Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de M. de Voltaire
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-20 20:29 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <11b8ius$3b48o$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94421 |
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 19:04:56 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > What amuses me is when I go to the grocery store for some butter > and it's marked "454 g". So how metric are we, really? (Checks fridge.) Here in 🇳🇿, our butter packs are 500g.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 02:12 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <njqld0Fei39U66@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #94421 |
On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 19:04:56 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-10-20, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> wrote: > >> Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> Do people in the USA use another numbering for CR2032 batteries? Or do >>> they just use the SI units there? >> >> 3,5 Inch Floppies are actually specced as 89 mm. In the 1990ies some >> german courts fined companied for not giving the floppy size in SI >> units, which prompty led to advertisements like "Diskette 8,89 cm". > > What amuses me is when I go to the grocery store for some butter and > it's marked "454 g". So how metric are we, really? The Irish must be catering to the Americans. The Kerrygold butter box says 4 8 ounce sticks with the grams in parens.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 10:22 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <11ba09b$3p0ft$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94444 |
On 21/10/2026 03:12, rbowman wrote: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 19:04:56 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > >> On 2026-10-20, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> wrote: >> >>> Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> Do people in the USA use another numbering for CR2032 batteries? Or do >>>> they just use the SI units there? >>> >>> 3,5 Inch Floppies are actually specced as 89 mm. In the 1990ies some >>> german courts fined companied for not giving the floppy size in SI >>> units, which prompty led to advertisements like "Diskette 8,89 cm". >> >> What amuses me is when I go to the grocery store for some butter and >> it's marked "454 g". So how metric are we, really? > > The Irish must be catering to the Americans. The Kerrygold butter box says > 4 8 ounce sticks with the grams in parens. Expensive way to buy butter. -- “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ― Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de M. de Voltaire
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 13:57 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <njrulpF3j5uU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #94464 |
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 10:22:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> The Irish must be catering to the Americans. The Kerrygold butter box >> says 4 8 ounce sticks with the grams in parens. > > Expensive way to buy butter. How do you buy it? Walmart shows $9.27 for 16 oz in sticks, $5.56 for an 8 oz tub. Tub butter is suspect in the US. If you're not careful it's adulterated with canola if not pure margarine. When I was a kid margarine came in a sturdy plastic bag in its natural white color, The was a small capsule of yellow die that had to be kneaded in to make it look like butter.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 15:18 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <11bahkg$b33$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #94489 |
On 21/10/2026 14:57, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 10:22:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >>> The Irish must be catering to the Americans. The Kerrygold butter box >>> says 4 8 ounce sticks with the grams in parens. >> >> Expensive way to buy butter. > > How do you buy it? Walmart shows $9.27 for 16 oz in sticks, $5.56 for an > 8 oz tub. Tub butter is suspect in the US. If you're not careful it's > adulterated with canola if not pure margarine. > I buy 450g for about $3. But the UK is much cheaper than the USA > When I was a kid margarine came in a sturdy plastic bag in its natural > white color, The was a small capsule of yellow die that had to be kneaded > in to make it look like butter. I cant believe its not margarine... -- "I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 19:51 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <njsjdmF3j5uU11@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #94494 |
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 15:18:56 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 21/10/2026 14:57, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 10:22:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>>> The Irish must be catering to the Americans. The Kerrygold butter box >>>> says 4 8 ounce sticks with the grams in parens. >>> >>> Expensive way to buy butter. >> >> How do you buy it? Walmart shows $9.27 for 16 oz in sticks, $5.56 for >> an >> 8 oz tub. Tub butter is suspect in the US. If you're not careful it's >> adulterated with canola if not pure margarine. >> > I buy 450g for about $3. > But the UK is much cheaper than the USA Got to protect the dairy farmers don't we? The Dairy Product Price Support Program was ended by the 2014 farm bill but somehow prices didn't come down. The price supports got bad press but they've figured out some other way around.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 19:58 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <j3bnqmxmhn.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #94489 |
On 2026-10-21 15:57, rbowman wrote: > On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 10:22:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >>> The Irish must be catering to the Americans. The Kerrygold butter box >>> says 4 8 ounce sticks with the grams in parens. >> >> Expensive way to buy butter. > > How do you buy it? Walmart shows $9.27 for 16 oz in sticks, $5.56 for an > 8 oz tub. Tub butter is suspect in the US. If you're not careful it's > adulterated with canola if not pure margarine. > > When I was a kid margarine came in a sturdy plastic bag in its natural > white color, The was a small capsule of yellow die that had to be kneaded > in to make it look like butter. Here butter used to came wrapped with metallised paper, and margarine in plastic containers. And it was yellow. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-10-21 19:58 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Metric vs. US/Imperial |
| Message-ID | <njsjraF3j5uU12@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #94505 |
On Wed, 21 Oct 2026 19:58:43 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > Here butter used to came wrapped with metallised paper, and margarine in > plastic containers. And it was yellow. https://www.newyorkalmanack.com/2022/04/crimes-against-butter-the- oleomargarine-controversy/ According to that they could sell colorized margarine after 1953. My mother always baked butter cookies for Christmas and I can remember her kneading the dye in. She swore she would never do such a thing but she also said she never smoked. She had a very selective memory. Also, never assume a little kid isn't taking notes.
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