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Killer price on a mini PC

Started by"Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com>
First post2026-09-15 21:48 -0400
Last post2026-09-27 13:32 +0200
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  Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 21:48 -0400
    Re: Killer price on a mini PC Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-16 03:17 +0000
      Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 23:35 -0400
        Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-18 21:29 -0700
          Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 01:51 -0400
          Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-19 09:36 -0400
            Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-19 12:03 -0700
              Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 01:49 -0400
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 02:44 -0700
                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-21 20:29 +1000
                    Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-21 22:45 +0100
                      Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 02:30 +0000
                      Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 20:38 +1000
                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 12:43 +0100
                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 17:38 +0100
                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 09:46 +0100
                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 21:47 +1000
                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 12:54 +0100
                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 17:59 +0100
                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 11:38 -0400
                    Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 18:13 -0700
                      Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 03:22 +0000
                      Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 06:56 +0100
                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 07:19 +0000
                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 11:24 +0100
                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-23 00:15 -0400
                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 01:54 -0700
    Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-16 07:24 -0400
      Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-16 12:36 +0100
        Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-16 10:11 -0400
      Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 12:20 -0400
        Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-17 12:58 -0400
          Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 13:26 -0400
        Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-18 00:49 -0400
          Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-18 08:10 -0400
            Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-18 20:01 +0000
              Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 16:23 -0400
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-09-18 17:42 -0400
                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 18:09 -0400
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-18 23:02 +0000
              Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 01:08 -0400
            Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 00:33 -0400
          Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-18 21:20 +0100
            Re: Killer price on a mini PC Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-18 16:05 -0500
              Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 17:09 -0400
                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-18 17:19 -0400
                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-09-18 17:47 -0400
                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-09-18 22:10 +0000
                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-18 23:13 +0100
                    Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-19 19:56 +1000
                      Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-19 09:42 -0400
                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-20 21:24 +1000
                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:18 +0100
                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 04:51 -0400
                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-21 19:18 +1000
                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-21 13:13 -0400
                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 23:33 +0100
                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-21 18:46 -0400
                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 20:52 +1000
                                    Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 20:02 +0100
                                      Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-23 21:21 +1000
                      Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-19 18:33 +0000
                      Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-19 21:24 +0100
                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-20 04:03 -0400
                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 04:21 -0400
                            screen shape/orientation (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 10:31 +0100
                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 10:45 +0100
                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 10:57 +0100
                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 10:39 +0100
                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 15:04 +0100
                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:29 +0100
                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 22:47 +0100
                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-20 20:36 -0400
                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:14 +0100
                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-20 11:26 -0500
                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:32 +0100
                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 06:16 -0400
                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:41 +0000
                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 14:30 +0100
                                    Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 20:57 +1000
                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:01 -0400
                                    Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 17:19 +0100
                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-21 16:02 -0500
                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 19:23 -0400
                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 03:30 +0000
                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-22 14:12 +0200
                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 13:47 +0100
                                    Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-22 19:29 +0200
                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-21 14:26 +0000
                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 16:36 +0100
                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-21 18:44 +0000
                                    Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-21 22:29 +0100
                                      Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 23:34 +0100
                                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-22 08:28 -0400
                                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 13:49 +0100
                                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-22 19:40 +0200
                                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 07:43 +0000
                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 12:38 +0200
                                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 12:11 +0000
                                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 19:55 +0200
                                                    Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-23 19:20 +0100
                                                      Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-24 00:27 -0400
                                                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-24 23:31 +0000
                                                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-25 09:18 +0100
                                                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 11:05 +0100
                                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:18 +0100
                                                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 04:13 -0400
                                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 18:55 +0100
                                                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 20:43 +1000
                                                    Gigaset M740AV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 20:25 +0200
                                                    Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-24 13:43 +0000
                                                      Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-24 20:39 +0200
                                                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 06:51 +0000
                                                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:24 +0100
                                                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-25 12:11 +0200
                                                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 11:18 +0100
                                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-25 12:41 +0200
                                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-25 11:57 +0100
                                                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 12:48 +0100
                                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 14:25 +0000
                                                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 15:46 +0100
                                                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 16:47 +0000
                                                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:28 +0100
                                                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:33 +0100
                                                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 14:03 +0000
                                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 15:42 +0100
                                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:34 +0100
                                                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:36 +0100
                                                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:14 +0100
                                                                    Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:39 +0100
                                                                      Re: Killer price on a mini PC Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-26 17:14 -0500
                                                                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 22:16 -0400
                                                                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:24 +0100
                                                                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 07:38 +0000
                                                                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 09:37 +0100
                                                                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:42 +0100
                                                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:32 +0100
                                                                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 18:56 +1000
                                                                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:46 +0100
                                                                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:03 +0000
                                                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 19:16 +0000
                                                                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-28 07:19 +0000
                                                                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:37 +0100
                                                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:38 +0100
                                                                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 22:32 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-29 00:10 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 01:56 +0100
                                                                                    Re: Killer price on a mini PC John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 08:20 -0700
                                                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 21:46 +0000
                                                                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 23:27 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 08:12 +0100
                                                                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 19:05 +0000
                                                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 09:05 +0100
                                                                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-28 20:46 +1000
                                                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 12:03 +0100
                                                                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-28 17:37 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 19:03 +0100
                                                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-26 19:14 -0400
                                                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:10 +0000
                                      Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-22 02:20 -0400
                                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 07:50 +0100
                                          OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 18:59 +0100
                                            Re: OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-22 19:52 +0000
                                              Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-23 02:29 -0400
                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 09:50 +0100
                                                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 12:40 +0200
                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 13:38 +0100
                                              Re: OT - TV "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-24 19:46 -0400
                                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-23 00:04 -0400
                                            OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 06:45 +0100
                                              Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-24 04:10 -0400
                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:39 +0100
                                                  Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-24 13:17 +0100
                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:23 +0100
                                                      Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-24 19:44 +0100
                                                        Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-24 23:17 +0000
                                                          Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 20:39 +0100
                                                            Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:11 +0200
                                                              Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-26 11:47 +0100
                                                                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:08 +0100
                                                                  Re: OT - TV Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:58 +0100
                                                                    Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:30 +0100
                                                                  Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-26 19:10 +0000
                                                                    Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 21:02 +0100
                                                                      Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 21:03 +0100
                                                                        Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:20 +0000
                                                                          Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:26 +0100
                                                                            Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-28 15:45 +0000
                                                                            Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:30 +0000
                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:46 +0100
                                                                                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 22:25 +0100
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 16:40 +0100
                                                                                    OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 16:58 +0100
                                                                                      Re: OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 18:19 +0000
                                                                                        Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:57 +0100
                                                                                        Re: OT - Lehrer Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:00 +0000
                                                                                        Re: OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) André Coutanche <acoutanche@gmx.co.uk> - 2026-09-29 21:50 +0100
                                                                                          Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 22:33 +0100
                                                                                            Re: OT - Lehrer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 22:48 +0000
                                                                                              Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:07 +0100
                                                                                                Re: OT - Lehrer John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 15:51 -0700
                                                                                                  Re: OT - Lehrer c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 21:02 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: OT - Lehrer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:22 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:01 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 10:57 +0100
                                                                                              Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-30 08:10 +0100
                                                                                            Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:39 +0100
                                                                                              Re: OT - Lehrer Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-30 00:46 +0000
                                                                                      Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 22:39 +0100
                                                                                      Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:25 +0000
                                                                                        Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 13:34 +0100
                                                                                        Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:31 +0100
                                                                                          Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-30 14:47 +0100
                                                                                            Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 14:58 +0100
                                                                                              Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:36 +0100
                                                                                                Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 11:12 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:35 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 16:14 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:35 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: OT - Lehrer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:53 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 19:03 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 21:50 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:25 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: OT - Lehrer marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 00:03 +0000
                                                                                            Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:13 +0100
                                                                                              Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 11:51 +0100
                                                                                          Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 14:55 +0100
                                                                                          Re: OT - Lehrer Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-30 14:15 +0000
                                                                    Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 19:58 +1000
                                                                      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:52 +0100
                                                                        Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 22:13 +1000
                                                                          Re: OT - TV Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2026-10-08 21:51 +0200
                                                                            Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:47 +1100
                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:47 +0100
                                                                              Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-12 11:58 +0100
                                                                                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 22:37 +1100
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:17 +0100
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:15 +0000
                                                                    Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-27 11:56 -0400
                                                                      Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:28 +0200
                                                                        Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-27 15:28 -0400
                                                                          Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 10:19 +0200
                                                                      [OT] - audio distribution, Rediffusion-style (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:43 +0100
                                                                  Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-27 11:44 +0100
                                                                    Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:12 +0100
                                                                      Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-27 18:12 +0100
                                                                        Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-27 18:23 +0100
                                                                        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:34 +0100
                                                                          Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-28 14:03 +0100
                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:46 +0100
                                                                              Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-29 12:01 +0100
                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 13:05 +0100
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 14:13 +0100
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Other John <nomail@here.org> - 2026-09-29 16:53 +0100
                                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 17:12 +0100
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:23 +0200
                                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:48 +0100
                                                                                    Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 07:37 -0400
                                                                                      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:28 +0100
                                                                                        Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:35 +0200
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:15 +0100
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:15 -0400
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:50 +0100
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:24 +0200
                                                                                              Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-01 17:17 +0100
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:48 +0100
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 13:32 +0100
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:52 +0000
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-03 21:10 +1000
                                                                                              Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:39 +0200
                                                                                                Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:11 -0400
                                                                                                Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-04 21:26 +1100
                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 13:19 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:36 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 19:18 +0200
                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 12:47 +0100
                                                                                              Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 12:50 +0100
                                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:09 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 15:59 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-03 15:56 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 17:19 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:54 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 01:27 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-05 07:55 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 14:54 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:17 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-05 11:29 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-05 11:46 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-06 17:51 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-06 18:58 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 20:36 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-07 09:00 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:04 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:21 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-07 11:54 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:37 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:51 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:04 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-08 22:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 22:15 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:22 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:33 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:20 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 01:01 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2026-10-09 20:09 -0700
                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 07:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2026-10-10 10:32 -0700
                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 19:56 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:33 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:52 +0200
                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 20:04 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 22:15 +0200
                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 03:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:15 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:40 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:22 +0000
                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:17 +0200
                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:58 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 20:45 +0200
                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - temperatures c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 22:44 -0400
                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:45 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:14 +0200
                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - temperatures c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 00:53 -0400
                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 12:54 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:31 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 17:39 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 18:53 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 05:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 09:14 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - temperatures Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-16 19:29 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 23:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-16 22:32 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 03:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:41 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 19:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:02 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 12:16 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:41 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 18:55 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - temperatures Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-17 12:52 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 15:03 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 20:08 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 20:05 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-17 18:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 22:03 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 22:38 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 03:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - temperatures Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:45 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-17 18:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 19:10 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 13:01 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:33 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 17:40 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 19:04 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:07 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 02:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:32 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 00:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:29 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:20 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:32 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-09 23:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:34 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 19:30 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 21:56 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-11 21:15 +1100
                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 11:23 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-11 22:15 +1100
                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 18:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-11 18:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 20:10 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-11 20:54 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 03:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:11 +1100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 02:24 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 03:49 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:58 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 16:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 07:23 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-12 03:13 -0400
                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:07 +1100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 18:21 +0100
                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-13 22:36 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:17 +1100
                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:55 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:09 +1100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:01 +0100
                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 17:58 +1100
                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 17:46 +0000
                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:18 +0200
                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:59 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:29 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 23:46 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:48 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 22:51 -0400
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                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 01:26 -0400
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                                                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:58 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 10:20 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 19:11 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-16 00:39 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 10:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-16 12:46 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 13:24 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 22:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:08 +0200
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                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-14 08:29 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 16:21 +0200
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                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 01:57 -0400
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                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:17 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:26 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-16 22:49 +1100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 15:37 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-13 16:28 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 19:36 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 20:08 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:59 +0200
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                                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 22:16 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-13 23:15 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:39 -0400
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                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-14 08:02 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 04:42 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:45 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 16:25 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 12:34 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 12:31 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 13:21 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-14 13:31 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:48 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:54 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 10:17 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 19:13 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:50 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-14 20:13 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 21:38 +0200
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                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 10:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-15 15:18 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 21:24 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-14 19:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-14 22:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-15 01:33 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-15 18:18 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-16 00:17 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-16 01:51 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-16 00:13 -0400
                                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-15 01:26 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 12:53 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:32 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 16:31 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-14 16:09 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 04:27 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-14 11:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 19:16 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-14 16:00 -0500
                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:19 +1100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> - 2026-10-13 17:06 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 17:26 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 10:08 +0100
                                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-15 18:57 +0000
                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 20:18 +0100
                                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 17:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-14 19:34 +0000
                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-14 21:48 +0200
                                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-14 21:20 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-16 19:59 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:11 +0200
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                                                                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-17 18:33 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-15 17:24 +0100
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                                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) - 2026-10-16 13:15 +0000
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                                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-17 23:09 +1100
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                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:11 +1100
                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:26 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 01:08 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-10 03:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:35 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-10 12:44 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-10 13:29 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 00:01 -0400
                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 05:23 +0000
                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:21 +1100
                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:18 +1100
                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:30 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-11 10:12 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 17:28 +0000
                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 18:05 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:24 +1100
                                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:30 +0200
                                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-12 19:26 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 19:40 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-13 12:03 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:31 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:20 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-16 16:14 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-17 01:01 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 19:45 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-12 19:54 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:19 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-13 04:16 -0400
                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-16 16:13 -0500
                                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:22 +0200
                                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-13 12:05 +0100
                                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:34 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 21:56 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:00 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-07 22:31 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 00:58 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-08 20:08 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-08 23:51 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 02:14 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:06 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:02 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-07 17:53 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:56 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-08 19:44 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 22:10 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:54 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:40 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 08:02 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 12:47 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-06 00:23 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:59 +1100
                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 18:50 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 18:41 +0100
                                                                                                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-03 22:52 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-03 21:24 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-04 08:08 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-04 09:29 +0100
                                                                                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-29 15:54 +0000
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 17:15 +0100
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:27 +0200
                                                                                    Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 11:13 +0100
                                                                                      Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 11:19 +0100
                                                                                        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:57 +0100
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 13:54 +0100
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:34 +0100
                                                                                              Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:22 +0100
                                                                                                Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:37 +0000
                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:37 +0200
                                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:50 +0100
                                                                                    Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-30 13:08 +0000
                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:50 +0200
                                                                                        Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:12 +0000
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-01 03:29 -0400
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:53 +0200
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 03:32 -0400
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:49 +0200
                                                                                        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:57 +0100
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 15:19 +0200
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:34 +0000
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 15:51 +0100
                                                                                              Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 06:52 +0000
                                                                                        Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-04 07:52 +0100
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 03:15 -0400
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-04 15:51 +0100
                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:16 +0100
                                                                  Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:12 +0200
                                                        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 10:06 +0100
                                                          Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 20:50 +0100
                                                            Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-26 01:31 +0000
                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:21 +0100
                                                                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:26 +0100
                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:26 +0100
                                                                    Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:37 +0100
                                                                      Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:36 +0000
                                                                        Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 00:03 +0000
                                                                          Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:21 +0100
                                                                        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:15 +0100
                                                                          Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:16 +0100
                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:48 +0100
                                                                              Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:16 +0100
                                                                      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:07 +0100
                                                                        Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:20 +0100
                                                                          Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:18 +0200
                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:06 +0100
                                                                              Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:25 +0200
                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:32 +0100
                                                                              Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:22 +0100
                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:34 +0100
                                                                          Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:50 +0100
                                                                            Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:25 +0200
                                                                              Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:25 +0100
                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:32 +0100
                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:30 +0100
                                                                            Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-27 15:04 +0000
                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:39 +0100
                                                                                Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-27 19:58 +0000
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 09:13 +0100
                                                                                    Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-28 09:39 +0100
                                                                                      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 11:26 +0100
                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 13:04 +0200
                                                                                        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:42 +0100
                                                                                    Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-28 16:45 +0000
                                                                                      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:53 +0100
                                                                                        Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-28 19:26 +0000
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:25 +0100
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 09:43 +0000
                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:56 +0100
                                                                                                Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 10:41 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 13:02 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 13:39 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 15:04 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 14:19 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 15:47 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 20:01 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:06 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:25 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 01:15 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Carlos <crazyhotwrse8@stinty.org> - 2026-10-03 20:41 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-03 21:28 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 17:16 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 18:50 +0100
                                                                                                              [OT] - power (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 19:05 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 19:15 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: [OT] - power "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:48 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:00 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] - power c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 15:30 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:47 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] - power Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-30 13:28 -0400
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:24 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-29 14:58 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:04 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:52 +0200
                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:01 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:36 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:55 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 03:57 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-04 10:40 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 11:29 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-04 15:59 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:25 +0100
                                                                                                                  [OT] energy (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-04 23:54 +0100
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy (was: Re: OT - TV) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 00:57 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 08:56 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:12 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 16:04 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 19:31 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 19:59 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 19:04 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:19 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 21:41 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 01:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:27 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:09 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:14 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:27 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 12:06 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:37 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:03 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 12:26 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:45 +0200
                                                                                                                        Re: [OT] energy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-06 03:52 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:38 +0100
                                                                                                                          Re: [OT] energy Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-10-11 16:29 +0200
                                                                                                                            Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:51 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:30 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:10 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 14:43 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 14:10 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 19:54 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 08:51 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: [OT] energy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 04:40 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:19 +0200
                                                                                                                          Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 16:20 +0100
                                                                                                                            Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 19:32 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:02 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 19:03 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:13 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 21:42 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 01:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:42 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:42 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-07 18:37 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 07:47 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 01:20 +0100
                                                                                                                                          Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 14:03 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: [OT] energy Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-10-11 16:28 +0200
                                                                                                                                            Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:49 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:35 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:01 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:36 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:12 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 12:52 +0100
                                                                                                                                            Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:01 +0200
                                                                                                                                              Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:03 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:05 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:57 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:14 +0200
                                                                                                                                                      Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:51 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 14:06 +0200
                                                                                                                                                      Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-10 12:26 +0100
                                                                                                                                                        Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 20:11 +0200
                                                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:48 +0100
                                                                                                                                                Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:07 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:38 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:46 +0200
                                                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:03 +0100
                                                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:56 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:33 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:22 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: [OT] energy Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-10-11 14:14 +0200
                                                                                                                                Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:33 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] energy "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 23:47 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:39 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:31 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:39 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:35 +0200
                                                                                                                                      Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:20 +0100
                                                                                                                                        Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 21:50 +0200
                                                                                                                                          Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:20 +0100
                                                                                                                        Re: [OT] energy Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 23:18 +1100
                                                                                                                    Re: [OT] energy (was: Re: OT - TV) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-05 06:40 -0500
                                                              Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 20:18 +1000
                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:54 +0100
                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 03:52 +0100
                                                              Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:41 +0100
                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:36 +0100
                                                        Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 20:58 +1000
                                                          Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 20:56 +0100
                                                  Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-24 22:24 +1000
                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:07 +0100
                                                Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-24 12:53 +0100
                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:09 +0100
                                                  Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 18:56 +0000
                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 10:47 +0100
                                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 10:01 +0100
                                              OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 14:42 +0100
                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 15:04 +0100
                                                  Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 15:55 +0100
                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:18 +0100
                                                      Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-24 19:50 +0100
                                                        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 10:34 +0100
                                                          Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:10 +0100
                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:29 +0100
                                                              Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 05:12 +0000
                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 10:02 +0100
                                                                  Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 13:52 +0000
                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 15:41 +0100
                                                                      Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 19:35 +0000
                                                        Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 21:30 +1000
                                                        Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-25 19:54 +0000
                                                          Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:14 +0100
                                                          Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:38 +0000
                                                            Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:06 +0100
                                                              Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 09:16 +0000
                                                                Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:30 +0100
                                                            Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:24 +0200
                                                              Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:35 +0000
                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 18:36 +0000
                                                                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:02 +0200
                                                              Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:09 +0000
                                                                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:03 +0200
                                                                  Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:46 +0000
                                                                    Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-29 09:22 +0200
                                                                      Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-29 09:00 +0000
                                                                        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:49 +0100
                                                                          Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-29 18:46 +0000
                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:02 +0100
                                                                              Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 01:57 +0000
                                                                            Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-30 22:07 +1000
                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:30 +0100
                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:42 +0000
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:12 +0100
                                                                                    Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:51 +0000
                                                                                      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:31 +0100
                                                                        Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:55 +0200
                                                                          Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:50 +0000
                                                                            Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:35 +0000
                                                                              Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 23:02 -0400
                                                                              Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:19 +0000
                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:27 +0100
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:22 +0000
                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:20 +0000
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 06:57 +0000
                                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:22 +0100
                                                                                      Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:43 +0000
                                                                                        Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 19:21 +0000
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:58 +0100
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 01:09 +0000
                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:08 +0100
                                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 19:28 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 09:14 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 12:11 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 11:29 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 13:31 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 17:44 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 20:19 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 17:37 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 20:29 +0200
                                                                                                    Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 23:56 -0400
                                                                                      Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:19 +0200
                                                                                        Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:25 +0200
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:12 +0100
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 00:48 +0000
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:05 +0100
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:43 +0200
                                                                                        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:09 +0100
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:49 +0200
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:02 +0100
                                                                                              Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 22:18 +0200
                                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:33 +0100
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 00:58 +0000
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:07 +0100
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 07:07 +0000
                                                                                    Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 18:33 +0000
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:13 +0100
                                                                                    Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 19:06 +0000
                                                                                      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:51 +0100
                                                                                        Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 02:41 +0000
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:31 +0100
                                                                                            Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 19:11 +0000
                                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 09:10 +0100
                                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 18:00 +0000
                                                                                              Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:33 +0000
                                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 00:40 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 08:57 +0100
                                                                              Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-04 10:44 +0100
                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 18:08 +0000
                                                                            Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:59 +0200
                                                                              Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:12 +0000
                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:02 +0100
                                                                                Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 15:28 +0200
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:28 +0000
                                                                                Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 21:03 +0000
                                                                          Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:27 +0000
                                                                            Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-30 18:27 +0000
                                                                            Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 01:03 +0200
                                                                              Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 03:31 +0000
                                                                              Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:29 +0100
                                                                            Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:10 +0100
                                                                            Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:23 +0100
                                                                              Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:36 +0000
                                                                                Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:24 +0100
                                                                                  Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 18:47 +0000
                                                                                    Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:34 +0100
                                                                                      Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 02:50 +0000
                                                                                        Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:46 +0100
                                                                                          Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 19:51 +0000
                                                                              Re: OT - TV Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-02 03:59 +0000
                                                                                Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-02 18:17 +0000
                                                Re: OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 15:04 +0000
                                                  Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 16:28 +0100
                                                    Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 15:51 +0000
                                                  Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:20 +0100
                                                    Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-24 18:26 +0000
                                                      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:20 +0100
                                                    Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 18:44 +0000
                                                      Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:27 +0100
                                                        Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-25 17:55 +0000
                                                        Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-25 19:14 +0000
                                                          Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 03:43 +0100
                                        Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-22 16:05 +0000
                                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-09-22 18:19 +0000
                                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 18:31 +0000
                                          Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 09:45 +0100
                                            Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-23 14:41 +0000
                                              Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:09 +0100
                                                Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 03:14 -0400
                                                  Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:10 +0000
                                                    Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 21:55 -0400
                                                      OT - TV (now radio) (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 09:49 +0100
                                                        Re: OT - TV (now radio) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:32 +0200

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#93830 — Re: OT - TV

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-16 10:30 +0100
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<11asqs0$33n8m$14@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93791
On 16/10/2026 02:50, Rich wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 15/10/2026 16:25, Rich wrote:
>>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 14/10/2026 19:58, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 14:08:04 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Though I did discover (I think it was on my current one, which
>>>>>> isn't really a snub-nose) that the packed-in appearance you see
>>>>>> when you lift the bonnet (hood) is at least partly because there's
>>>>>> a moulded piece of black plastic which makes the whole underbonnet
>>>>>> area look neat, and full (and _may_ have some effect on airflow,
>>>>>> though I doubt it); when you remove that, what's underneath looks
>>>>>> much as I expected a car engine to look.
>>>>>
>>>>> My Toyota engine has a plastic piece like that.  When I bought the
>>>>> first one I assumed it covered the distributor and plug wires.
>>>>> Wrong again.  Each plug has a coil that's fired by the ECU.
>>>>
>>>> Amazingly common these days.  It does at least remove a single point
>>>> of failure
>>>>
>>>> And keep the HV wiring to essentially zero
>>>>
>>>> Same with diesel injectors.  One per cylinder right in the cylinder.
>>>> But I think that was always the case
>>>
>>> It has always been.  The operation mechanism for diesel engines has
>>> always been separate injectors per cylinder.  The nature of
>>> "compression ignition" used in diesels pretty much mandates this be the
>>> way.  That and the fact that diesel does not "evaporate" in the same
>>> manner as gasoline means one can't use a carburetor or a single point
>>> injector playing the role of carburetor.
>>
>> Actually you can.
>>
>> I had many little diesels with carburettors in my youth :-)
> 
> Fair enough.  Model airplane diesels using what is in effect a
> rudimentary carburetor do exist.  No one is building that type of
> engine for human scale vehicle use.
> 
The efficiency is terms of fuel is close to zero on this, and they need 
ether to run mostly

>> I wont argue that is an efficient way to run one though.
>>
>> Diesel runaway is not sustained by fuel through the injectors, either

And that is the point direct injection is the most efficient way to run 
a diesel, no doubt. It is not however, the *only* way...in THEORY.

It is however almost impossible to control diesel ignition timing if you 
do not. Model diesel had adjustable compression ratios to fine tune 
timing and were essentially one speed units. Throttled units did exist, 
but they tended to run extremely roughly at reduce power


-- 
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and 
wrong.

H.L.Mencken

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#93777 — Re: OT - TV

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-10-15 21:24 +0200
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<qrl7qmxg9d.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#93755
On 2026-10-15 17:25, Rich wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 14/10/2026 19:58, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 14:08:04 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>>
>>>> Though I did discover (I think it was on my current one, which
>>>> isn't really a snub-nose) that the packed-in appearance you see
>>>> when you lift the bonnet (hood) is at least partly because there's
>>>> a moulded piece of black plastic which makes the whole underbonnet
>>>> area look neat, and full (and _may_ have some effect on airflow,
>>>> though I doubt it); when you remove that, what's underneath looks
>>>> much as I expected a car engine to look.
>>>
>>> My Toyota engine has a plastic piece like that.  When I bought the
>>> first one I assumed it covered the distributor and plug wires.
>>> Wrong again.  Each plug has a coil that's fired by the ECU.
>>
>> Amazingly common these days.  It does at least remove a single point
>> of failure
>>
>> And keep the HV wiring to essentially zero
>>
>> Same with diesel injectors.  One per cylinder right in the cylinder.
>> But I think that was always the case
> 
> It has always been.  The operation mechanism for diesel engines has
> always been separate injectors per cylinder. 

With a tube connecting the injector pump with the injector. With 
electronics, you can instead put the pump directly on the injector at 
the cylinder head, thus not having a high pressure tube, that although 
it is short, it does introduce a delay.

There are diesel motors with a single pump, plus a bank of valves, one 
per cylinder. Mine was like this. All mechanical, no electronics. A Seat 
Ibiza, the motor being a Wolkswwagen design, I understand.

> The nature of
> "compression ignition" used in diesels pretty much mandates this be the
> way.  That and the fact that diesel does not "evaporate" in the same
> manner as gasoline means one can't use a carburetor or a single point
> injector playing the role of carburetor.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#93824 — Re: OT - TV

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-16 10:17 +0100
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<11asq33$33n8m$12@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93777
On 15/10/2026 20:24, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> With a tube connecting the injector pump with the injector. With 
> electronics, you can instead put the pump directly on the injector at 
> the cylinder head, thus not having a high pressure tube, that although 
> it is short, it does introduce a delay.

That is not how it works AFAIK. There is an (extremely) high pressure 
pump that pressurised the file line to 3500 psi or thereabouts, and the 
injectors are simple solenoid valves that open at a precise time, for a 
precise time, [a precise *number* of times] to let the high pressure 
fuel into the cylinders.

But they do not add *pressure*. There is still a single high pressure 
fuel pump,


All controlled by software linked to knock sensors, crank angle sensors, 
exhaust gas sensors etc etc



-- 
"It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing 
conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere"

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#93784 — Re: OT - TV

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-10-15 20:25 +0000
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<njcr5eFit4rU9@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#93739
On Thu, 15 Oct 2026 10:20:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> Amazingly common these days. It does at least remove a single point of
> failure
> 
> And keep the HV wiring to essentially zero

A good thing in my mind. The Audi I had decided that the plug wires needed 
replacing about every 15,000 miles. No misfires or other problems leading 
up to it. You would go out in the morning and it would refuse to start. I 
carried a spare set.  The rudimentary computer probably detected something 
0.01 volts out of the parameter range.

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#93826 — Re: OT - TV

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-16 10:25 +0100
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<11asqi7$33n8m$13@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93784
On 15/10/2026 21:25, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2026 10:20:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> Amazingly common these days. It does at least remove a single point of
>> failure
>>
>> And keep the HV wiring to essentially zero
> 
> A good thing in my mind. The Audi I had decided that the plug wires needed
> replacing about every 15,000 miles. No misfires or other problems leading
> up to it. You would go out in the morning and it would refuse to start. I
> carried a spare set.  The rudimentary computer probably detected something
> 0.01 volts out of the parameter range.
> 
Oh yes. I am all for plug and coil combos fed by a LV signal and power
I am curious as to what is fed to them. Whether its 12V or a few hundred,

Good oile goofle AI sez

How It Works

Voltage Conversion: The coil acts as a step-up transformer, turning the 
car's low 12-volt battery supply into a high voltage surge of 20,000 to 
50,000+ volts.

  Magnetic Induction: When the engine computer (ECU or PCM) allows 
current through the primary winding, it builds a magnetic field around 
an iron core. When the computer cuts that current, the magnetic field 
collapses and induces a massive voltage spike in the secondary winding.

  Direct Firing: Instead of routing power through a mechanical 
distributor and thick rubber wires, the high voltage fires straight down 
into the spark plug sitting immediately beneath it

So its basically just like a normal coil. run current through it, let 
that gets shut off fast and the primary scoots up to several hundred 
volts and te secondary heads for the plug tip at thousands.

That means the electronics that drive it, and the wiring, need to be 
able to handle several hundred volts.

Tough things, ECUs....


-- 
If I had all the money I've spent on drink...
..I'd spend it on drink.

Sir Henry (at Rawlinson's End)

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#93846 — Re: OT - TV

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-10-16 13:01 +0200
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<fpc9qmxqhg.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#93826
On 2026-10-16 11:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 15/10/2026 21:25, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2026 10:20:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> Amazingly common these days. It does at least remove a single point of
>>> failure
>>>
>>> And keep the HV wiring to essentially zero
>>
>> A good thing in my mind. The Audi I had decided that the plug wires 
>> needed
>> replacing about every 15,000 miles. No misfires or other problems leading
>> up to it. You would go out in the morning and it would refuse to start. I
>> carried a spare set.  The rudimentary computer probably detected 
>> something
>> 0.01 volts out of the parameter range.
>>
> Oh yes. I am all for plug and coil combos fed by a LV signal and power
> I am curious as to what is fed to them. Whether its 12V or a few hundred,
> 
> Good oile goofle AI sez
> 
> How It Works
> 
> Voltage Conversion: The coil acts as a step-up transformer, turning the 
> car's low 12-volt battery supply into a high voltage surge of 20,000 to 
> 50,000+ volts.
> 
>   Magnetic Induction: When the engine computer (ECU or PCM) allows 
> current through the primary winding, it builds a magnetic field around 
> an iron core. When the computer cuts that current, the magnetic field 
> collapses and induces a massive voltage spike in the secondary winding.
> 
>   Direct Firing: Instead of routing power through a mechanical 
> distributor and thick rubber wires, the high voltage fires straight down 
> into the spark plug sitting immediately beneath it
> 
> So its basically just like a normal coil. run current through it, let 
> that gets shut off fast and the primary scoots up to several hundred 
> volts and te secondary heads for the plug tip at thousands.
> 
> That means the electronics that drive it, and the wiring, need to be 
> able to handle several hundred volts.

That part is expensive.
And they are using small coils.
I suspect they are doing something else more sophisticated.

I asked chatgpt. There are two methods. One is having the power 
electronics inside the coil assembly. The ECU just sends a 5V control pulse.

On the other method "The coil itself has no integrated power switch. The 
ECU, or a separate ignition module, contains the power transistor that 
switches several amperes through the primary winding."


> 
> Tough things, ECUs....
> 
> 


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#93862 — Re: OT - TV

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-16 13:34 +0100
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<11at5kg$33n8m$40@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93846
On 16/10/2026 12:01, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2026-10-16 11:25, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 15/10/2026 21:25, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2026 10:20:39 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Amazingly common these days. It does at least remove a single point of
>>>> failure
>>>>
>>>> And keep the HV wiring to essentially zero
>>>
>>> A good thing in my mind. The Audi I had decided that the plug wires 
>>> needed
>>> replacing about every 15,000 miles. No misfires or other problems 
>>> leading
>>> up to it. You would go out in the morning and it would refuse to 
>>> start. I
>>> carried a spare set.  The rudimentary computer probably detected 
>>> something
>>> 0.01 volts out of the parameter range.
>>>
>> Oh yes. I am all for plug and coil combos fed by a LV signal and power
>> I am curious as to what is fed to them. Whether its 12V or a few hundred,
>>
>> Good oile goofle AI sez
>>
>> How It Works
>>
>> Voltage Conversion: The coil acts as a step-up transformer, turning 
>> the car's low 12-volt battery supply into a high voltage surge of 
>> 20,000 to 50,000+ volts.
>>
>>   Magnetic Induction: When the engine computer (ECU or PCM) allows 
>> current through the primary winding, it builds a magnetic field around 
>> an iron core. When the computer cuts that current, the magnetic field 
>> collapses and induces a massive voltage spike in the secondary winding.
>>
>>   Direct Firing: Instead of routing power through a mechanical 
>> distributor and thick rubber wires, the high voltage fires straight 
>> down into the spark plug sitting immediately beneath it
>>
>> So its basically just like a normal coil. run current through it, let 
>> that gets shut off fast and the primary scoots up to several hundred 
>> volts and te secondary heads for the plug tip at thousands.
>>
>> That means the electronics that drive it, and the wiring, need to be 
>> able to handle several hundred volts.
> 
> That part is expensive.
> And they are using small coils.
> I suspect they are doing something else more sophisticated.
> 
> I asked chatgpt. There are two methods. One is having the power 
> electronics inside the coil assembly. The ECU just sends a 5V control 
> pulse.
> 
Yes. That would work OK,. essentially you run a 12v supply and a 5v 
control and have a power MOSFET  and probably a capacitor and a clamp 
diode in there as well as the coil


> On the other method "The coil itself has no integrated power switch. The 
> ECU, or a separate ignition module, contains the power transistor that 
> switches several amperes through the primary winding."
> 
That is how I thought most work. I haven't seen many with three wires 
going in. BUT of course on doing the research there are plenty with 
three...:-

Thinking about it its not a bad way to move the power electronics - the 
most failure prone and stressed bit - out of the ECU and into the coil 
assembly.

The last petrol vehicle I owned had a coil pack and I think a distributor.

I am not sure. Ive been mostly diesel since early 2000s
l


-- 
"If you don’t read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the 
news paper, you are mis-informed."

Mark Twain

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#93907 — Re: OT - TV

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-10-16 18:47 +0000
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<njf9qkFit4rU20@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#93826
On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 10:25:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> So its basically just like a normal coil. run current through it, let
> that gets shut off fast and the primary scoots up to several hundred
> volts and te secondary heads for the plug tip at thousands.

I haven't had reason to dig into them but I would assume a reverse diode 
as is common with inductive loads. 

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#93929 — Re: OT - TV

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-16 22:31 +0100
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<11au53q$3k12p$19@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93907
On 16/10/2026 19:47, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Oct 2026 10:25:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> So its basically just like a normal coil. run current through it, let
>> that gets shut off fast and the primary scoots up to several hundred
>> volts and te secondary heads for the plug tip at thousands.
> 
> I haven't had reason to dig into them but I would assume a reverse diode
> as is common with inductive loads.

Yes, you don't want to e.g swing below ground with an N-channel MOSFET. 
They have their own diodes, but they are fragile. I'd  assume a beefy 
Schottky in there somewhere.

Back in the day there would have been too much heat in the transistors 
to be possible to build it into the coil pack. But modern FETS are a 
bloody marvel



-- 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.
-- Yogi Berra

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#93660 — Re: OT - TV

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-10-14 09:07 +0100
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<11and7i$194fq$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#93643
On 14/10/2026 05:32, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 10/13/2026 10:51 PM, c186282 wrote:
>> On 10/13/26 15:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>> On 2026/10/13 20:0:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 13/10/2026 19:47, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>>>> An interesting wrinkle: when I started driving, although_new_
>>>>> automatics carried the price premium mentioned,_second-hand_  ones were
>>>>> often cheaper, presumably because nobody wanted them;
>>>>
>>>> The thing is, a luxury car - Mercedes, or Jaguar, is worthless when old.
>>>> It chews fuel compared with a tinplate shopping trolley and it cots a
>>>> fair bit to keep on the road. And its lost the swank factor.
>>>> No one wants them, except people like us who can pick up a really good
>>>> deal on a 10 year old auto luxury car for far less than a clapped out 5
>>>> year old shopping trolley. And have money left over to fix it and feed
>>>> it with fuel
>>>>
>>>>
>>> There's a lot in what you say! That Ventora - not, to me, a known luxury
>>> model, but _any_ 3.3 litre car in Britain was (still is, somewhat) a
>>> luxury car - and, as you say, I had enough to maintain and feed it. (It
>>> certainly was _comfortable_.) Wasn't hard to maintain - K reg, so old
>>> enough to have nothing fancy (except automatic choke, which was a
>>> pain!), and that straight six engine - same as a Bedford truck, someone
>>> told me - was such that a small person could have stood in the engine
>>> compartment next to it. (The car was vaguely Capri-shaped, but longer
>>> bonnet.)
>>
>>    DID like the cars with the long bonnets. The
>>    modern 'snub-nosed', not nearly as aesthetic.
>>
>>    And try to WORK on the packed-in engines !
>>
>>    Intentional ?
>>
>>    3.3 is "luxury" in the UK ??? Considered
>>    a 'mid-sized' in the USA  :-)
>>
> 
> Well, petrol is expensive there, so there's no particular
> advantage to "driving a boat". You'd just end up leaving it
> at home.
> 
And the fact is, European and Japanese style cars get better performance 
out of 3 cylinders than many US cars do out of 6

Try 0-60 in 5 seconds, top speed 140 mph and 34 mpg. From 3 litres of DIESEL

A little turbocharged 3 cylinder is perfectly adequate for 'soccer moms' 
to fetch the kids in and hit the supermarket

Buying fresh food 3 times a week would get expensive in an unparkable V8
and as for solid rear axles, steering boxes. and leaf springs? Not seen 
that on a car since the 1960s.

European cars mostly can GO ROUND CORNERS because roads follow old 
droving tracks that wove in and out of trees and streams long after the 
trees and streams were gone.

US cars are big clunky and fuel hungry because the roads are big 
straight and the fuel just flowed out of the ground and parking lots are 
ten acre stretches of asphalt



-- 
"A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight 
and understanding".

Marshall McLuhan

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#93705 — Re: OT - TV

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-10-14 18:43 +0000
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<nja0rfFc9lcU32@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#93660
On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 09:07:14 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> European cars mostly can GO ROUND CORNERS because roads follow old
> droving tracks that wove in and out of trees and streams long after the
> trees and streams were gone.

American cars do quite well. In college I participated in a couple of 
rallies. The well heeled frat boys had their European sporty cars and I 
had my '60 Plymouth. You might want to consider why New England is called 
New England. I cut my teeth on dirt roads and there often were many in the 
rally route.  

I don't know about more formal rallies but another advantage of a big 
American car was having three navigators on board.

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#93656 — Re: OT - TV

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2026-10-14 08:29 +0100
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<nj8pajFsb3U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#93635
c186282 wrote:

>    DID like the cars with the long bonnets. The
>    modern 'snub-nosed', not nearly as aesthetic.

Several of my cars have been low with long bonnets (ok, not exactly 
E-types), my torso is quite long, so I tended to drive with the seat 
laid flat and far back, but in recent years my back started to complain 
getting in and out.

I had an SUV as a hire car for a week and my back appreciated the 
difference.  In general I dislike big SUVs as most people don't actually 
need them (myself included).

It took me over a year to decide which type of 'compact' SUV to buy, 
it's so nice to just step in and have the seat naturally be at 
arse-height, and step out and have the ground naturally be at the level 
my feet reach.

I still haven't got used to the different visibility from the snub nose 
and slab sides though.

>    And try to WORK on the packed-in engines ! 
>    Intentional ?

That battle was lost many years ago ...

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#93700 — Re: OT - TV

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-10-14 18:04 +0000
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<nj9ugnFc9lcU27@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#93656
On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 08:29:17 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:

> It took me over a year to decide which type of 'compact' SUV to buy,
> it's so nice to just step in and have the seat naturally be at
> arse-height, and step out and have the ground naturally be at the level
> my feet reach.

Exiting my Yaris is slightly easier than the AH Sprite I had but I was 
nimbler 50 years ago. The other drawback is the difficulty finding the 
thing in a parking lot full of pickups and SUVs or trying to see around 
them.

 
> I still haven't got used to the different visibility from the snub nose
> and slab sides though.

I wouldn't call it a snub nose but the hood line drops enough I can't see 
it. iirc the original Beetle was the same. When parallel parking I tend to 
leave a little too much room in front since I can't judge it. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_Chevrolet

Now there was a car. The twin shark fins were purely decorative but I used 
to imagine them as twin machine gun mounts to eliminate offending drivers. 
Real bumpers too, in case some idiot parked you in. 

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#93692 — Re: OT - TV

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-10-14 16:21 +0200
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<qof4qmx2vl.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#93635
On 2026-10-14 04:51, c186282 wrote:
> On 10/13/26 15:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> On 2026/10/13 20:0:38, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 13/10/2026 19:47, J. P. Gilliver wrote:


...

>    DID like the cars with the long bonnets. The
>    modern 'snub-nosed', not nearly as aesthetic.
> 
>    And try to WORK on the packed-in engines !
> 
>    Intentional ?
> 
>    3.3 is "luxury" in the UK ??? Considered
>    a 'mid-sized' in the USA  :-)

The most packed-in engine I saw was in the Renault Super 5 Turbo, a kind 
of widow maker were it not the the owners were often too young. Drop a 
nut, it doesn't get to the ground.

I had basically the same car, but with just a 1.1 L engine, 42 "horses". 
They could put 3 engines like that in the same space. So with just one 
engine there was space for a full litter of kittens and another of dogs, 
2 month old, with room to spare.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#93706 — Re: OT - TV

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-10-14 18:48 +0000
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<nja134Fc9lcU33@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#93692
On Wed, 14 Oct 2026 16:21:46 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I had basically the same car, but with just a 1.1 L engine, 42 "horses".
> They could put 3 engines like that in the same space. So with just one
> engine there was space for a full litter of kittens and another of dogs,
> 2 month old, with room to spare.

Snowbirds tend to park their rigs for the winter and use a smaller car to 
get around. In the southwest when spring comes and they want to go back on 
the road they may have to evict packrats, rattlesnakes, and other tenants. 
The snakes require some care to extract but are preferable to the damn 
rats building a nest and chewing on components.

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#93645 — Re: OT - TV

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-10-14 04:56 +0000
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<nj8gclFc9lcU21@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#93620
On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 20:28:29 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

> There's a lot in what you say! That Ventora - not, to me, a known luxury
> model, but _any_ 3.3 litre car in Britain was (still is, somewhat) a
> luxury car - and, as you say, I had enough to maintain and feed it. (It
> certainly was _comfortable_.) Wasn't hard to maintain - K reg, so old
> enough to have nothing fancy (except automatic choke, which was a
> pain!),
> and that straight six engine - same as a Bedford truck, someone told me
> -
> was such that a small person could have stood in the engine compartment
> next to it. (The car was vaguely Capri-shaped, but longer bonnet.)

I had a Chrysler New Yorker with a straight eight. A family of small 
people could have lived in the engine compartment. I always like straight 
engines, all the plugs lined up in a neat row where you could get at them.

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#93644 — Re: OT - TV

Fromrbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Date2026-10-14 04:48 +0000
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<nj8fs8Fc9lcU20@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#93614
On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 20:00:38 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:


> The thing is, a luxury car - Mercedes, or Jaguar, is worthless when old.
> It chews fuel compared with a tinplate shopping trolley and it cots a
> fair bit to keep on the road. And its lost the swank factor.

I worked with a guy whose dream was to buy a Mercedes. He finally did get 
a 190D fintail. I thought the thing looked suspiciously like a Studebaker 
Lark but he was happy.

A classmate's father thought he had arrived when he bought a Humber Super 
Snipe. God only knows how he got it but it didn't do much for Eddie's 
street cred when he borrowed dad's car for a date.

My father-in-law had a thing for Checker Marathons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checker_Marathon. I will say you could hold 
a Cornell University style orgy in the backseat of those puppies.

Strange tastes.

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#93648 — Re: OT - TV

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2026-10-14 05:06 +0000
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<j5EzS.838$s7Ic.166@fx33.iad>
In reply to#93644
On 2026-10-14, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 20:00:38 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> The thing is, a luxury car - Mercedes, or Jaguar, is worthless when old.
>> It chews fuel compared with a tinplate shopping trolley and it cots a
>> fair bit to keep on the road. And its lost the swank factor.
>
> I worked with a guy whose dream was to buy a Mercedes. He finally did get 
> a 190D fintail. I thought the thing looked suspiciously like a Studebaker 
> Lark but he was happy.
>
> A classmate's father thought he had arrived when he bought a Humber Super 
> Snipe. God only knows how he got it but it didn't do much for Eddie's 
> street cred when he borrowed dad's car for a date.
>
> My father-in-law had a thing for Checker Marathons.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checker_Marathon. I will say you could hold 
> a Cornell University style orgy in the backseat of those puppies.
>
> Strange tastes.

You could lay the seats of a Nash Rambler down flat for a good-sized bed.
I just remembered that our 1998 Honda CR-V could pretty much duplicate
that feat; besides being pretty comfortable to sleep in, it gave us our
own living room in which we played cards, etc. during a 5-hour ferry wait.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#93654 — Re: OT - TV

Fromc186282 <c186282@nnada.net>
Date2026-10-14 01:57 -0400
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<tnGdna3d1pIyhFL3nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#93648
On 10/14/26 01:06, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-10-14, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2026 20:00:38 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>
>>> The thing is, a luxury car - Mercedes, or Jaguar, is worthless when old.
>>> It chews fuel compared with a tinplate shopping trolley and it cots a
>>> fair bit to keep on the road. And its lost the swank factor.
>>
>> I worked with a guy whose dream was to buy a Mercedes. He finally did get
>> a 190D fintail. I thought the thing looked suspiciously like a Studebaker
>> Lark but he was happy.
>>
>> A classmate's father thought he had arrived when he bought a Humber Super
>> Snipe. God only knows how he got it but it didn't do much for Eddie's
>> street cred when he borrowed dad's car for a date.
>>
>> My father-in-law had a thing for Checker Marathons.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checker_Marathon. I will say you could hold
>> a Cornell University style orgy in the backseat of those puppies.
>>
>> Strange tastes.
> 
> You could lay the seats of a Nash Rambler down flat for a good-sized bed.
> I just remembered that our 1998 Honda CR-V could pretty much duplicate
> that feat; besides being pretty comfortable to sleep in, it gave us our
> own living room in which we played cards, etc. during a 5-hour ferry wait.

   My bud had a Nash. Good solid vehicle. We restored
   the thing. Had spent almost 20 years under a tree.
   You don't wanna know how we got rid of the bugs.

   Anyway, big-6 engine. Replaced the rings/bearings
   and all the relevant gaskets. A few tricks and it
   started up just FINE. Used for years, then sold and
   used for many more years. THINK I saw it for sale on
   an 'antiques' site not so long ago. Indestructible
   US auto tech. No, not "best", but indestructible.

   For fun, check the antique auto sites. Amazing
   what's there, that still RUNS. DO love the
   early 30s Packards, that swoopy look. Plenty.
   Big 6s, 8s, even some 12's and 16's. Those
   were the "above Cadillac" cars.

   Big potential money-maker, free of charge,
   use 3-D printing to make custom parts for
   those ancient vehicles. So long as the
   original design specs can be had ....

   Sorry, but they beat a Hyundai straight out.

   Me ... found the '69 Falcons to be pretty
   much "ideal" for all purposes. You could
   kinda climb headfirst into the engine
   compartment, reach everything.

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#93668 — Re: OT - TV

From"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date2026-10-14 12:23 +0200
SubjectRe: OT - TV
Message-ID<lq14qmxdet.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>
In reply to#93654
On 2026-10-14 07:57, c186282 wrote:
> On 10/14/26 01:06, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2026-10-14, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>>

>> You could lay the seats of a Nash Rambler down flat for a good-sized bed.
>> I just remembered that our 1998 Honda CR-V could pretty much duplicate
>> that feat; besides being pretty comfortable to sleep in, it gave us our
>> own living room in which we played cards, etc. during a 5-hour ferry 
>> wait.
> 
>    My bud had a Nash. Good solid vehicle. We restored
>    the thing. Had spent almost 20 years under a tree.
>    You don't wanna know how we got rid of the bugs.
> 
>    Anyway, big-6 engine. Replaced the rings/bearings
>    and all the relevant gaskets. A few tricks and it
>    started up just FINE. Used for years, then sold and
>    used for many more years. THINK I saw it for sale on
>    an 'antiques' site not so long ago. Indestructible
>    US auto tech. No, not "best", but indestructible.

As long as gas is cheap and roads are ample.



-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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