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| Started by | "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2026-09-15 21:48 -0400 |
| Last post | 2026-09-27 09:49 +0100 |
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Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 21:48 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-16 03:17 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-15 23:35 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-18 21:29 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 01:51 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-19 09:36 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-19 12:03 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 01:49 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 02:44 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-21 20:29 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-21 22:45 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 02:30 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 20:38 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 12:43 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 17:38 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 09:46 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 21:47 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 12:54 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 17:59 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 11:38 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 18:13 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 03:22 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 06:56 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 07:19 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 11:24 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-23 00:15 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 01:54 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-16 07:24 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-16 12:36 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-16 10:11 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 12:20 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-17 12:58 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-17 13:26 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-18 00:49 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-18 08:10 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-18 20:01 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 16:23 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-09-18 17:42 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 18:09 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-18 23:02 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 01:08 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-19 00:33 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-18 21:20 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-18 16:05 -0500
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-18 17:09 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-18 17:19 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-09-18 17:47 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-09-18 22:10 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-18 23:13 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-19 19:56 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-19 09:42 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-20 21:24 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:18 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 04:51 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-21 19:18 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-21 13:13 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 23:33 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-21 18:46 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 20:52 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 20:02 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-23 21:21 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-19 18:33 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-19 21:24 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-20 04:03 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-20 04:21 -0400
screen shape/orientation (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 10:31 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 10:45 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 10:57 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 10:39 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 15:04 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:29 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-20 22:47 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-20 20:36 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:14 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-20 11:26 -0500
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-20 19:32 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 06:16 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:41 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 14:30 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-22 20:57 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 12:01 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 17:19 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-21 16:02 -0500
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-21 19:23 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 03:30 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-22 14:12 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 13:47 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-22 19:29 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-21 14:26 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 16:36 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-21 18:44 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-21 22:29 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-21 23:34 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-22 08:28 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 13:49 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-22 19:40 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 07:43 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 12:38 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 12:11 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 19:55 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-23 19:20 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-24 00:27 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-24 23:31 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-25 09:18 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 11:05 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:18 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 04:13 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 18:55 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 20:43 +1000
Gigaset M740AV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 20:25 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-24 13:43 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-24 20:39 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 06:51 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:24 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-25 12:11 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 11:18 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-25 12:41 +0200
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-25 11:57 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 12:48 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 14:25 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 15:46 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 16:47 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:28 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:33 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-25 14:03 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 15:42 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:34 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:36 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:14 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:39 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2026-09-26 17:14 -0500
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 22:16 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:24 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 07:38 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 09:37 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:42 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:32 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 18:56 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:46 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:03 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 19:16 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-28 07:19 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:37 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:38 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 22:32 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-29 00:10 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 01:56 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 08:20 -0700
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 21:46 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 23:27 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 08:12 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 19:05 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 09:05 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-28 20:46 +1000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 12:03 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-28 17:37 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 19:03 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-26 19:14 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:10 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-22 02:20 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-22 07:50 +0100
OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-22 18:59 +0100
Re: OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-22 19:52 +0000
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-23 02:29 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 09:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-23 12:40 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 13:38 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-09-24 19:46 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-23 00:04 -0400
OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 06:45 +0100
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-24 04:10 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:39 +0100
Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-24 13:17 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-24 19:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-24 23:17 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 20:39 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:11 +0200
Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-26 11:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:08 +0100
Re: OT - TV Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-26 19:10 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 21:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 21:03 +0100
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:20 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-28 15:45 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:30 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:46 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 22:25 +0100
Re: OT - TV NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 16:40 +0100
OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 16:58 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 18:19 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:57 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-29 20:00 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer (was: Re: OT - TV) André Coutanche <acoutanche@gmx.co.uk> - 2026-09-29 21:50 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 22:33 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-29 22:48 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:07 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 15:51 -0700
Re: OT - Lehrer c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 21:02 -0400
Re: OT - Lehrer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:22 -0500
Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:01 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 10:57 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-30 08:10 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:39 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2026-09-30 00:46 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-29 22:39 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:25 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 13:34 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:31 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-09-30 14:47 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 14:58 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:36 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 11:12 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:35 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 16:14 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:35 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-01 17:53 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 19:03 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 21:50 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:25 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer marika <marika5000@gmail.com> - 2026-10-09 00:03 +0000
Re: OT - Lehrer The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:13 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-01 11:51 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-09-30 14:55 +0100
Re: OT - Lehrer Charles Hope <clh@candehope.me.uk> - 2026-09-30 14:15 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 19:58 +1000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 22:13 +1000
Re: OT - TV Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2026-10-08 21:51 +0200
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:47 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-12 11:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 22:37 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:17 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:15 +0000
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-27 11:56 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:28 +0200
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-27 15:28 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 10:19 +0200
[OT] - audio distribution, Rediffusion-style (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-28 16:43 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-27 11:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-27 18:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-27 18:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:34 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-28 14:03 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:46 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-09-29 12:01 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 13:05 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 14:13 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Other John <nomail@here.org> - 2026-09-29 16:53 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 17:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:23 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:48 +0100
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-30 07:37 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:28 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:35 +0200
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:15 +0100
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:15 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:24 +0200
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-01 17:17 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:48 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-01 13:32 +0100
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:52 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-03 21:10 +1000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:39 +0200
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:11 -0400
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-04 21:26 +1100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 13:19 +0200
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:36 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 19:18 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 12:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 12:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:09 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 15:59 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-03 15:56 +0000
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-03 17:19 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-04 10:54 +0000
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 01:27 -0400
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-05 07:55 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 14:54 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:17 +0000
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-05 11:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-05 11:46 +0100
Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-06 17:51 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-06 18:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 20:36 +0200
Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-07 09:00 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:21 +0200
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-07 11:54 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:37 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:51 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 13:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-08 22:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 22:15 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:22 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:33 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:20 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 01:01 +0000
Re: OT - TV Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2026-10-09 20:09 -0700
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 07:03 +0000
Re: OT - TV Don_from_AZ <djatechNOSPAM@comcast.net.invalid> - 2026-10-10 10:32 -0700
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 19:56 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:35 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:54 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:33 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:52 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 20:04 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 22:15 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 03:23 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:15 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:41 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:40 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:22 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 09:38 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:17 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:58 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 20:45 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 22:44 -0400
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:45 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:14 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 00:53 -0400
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 12:54 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:31 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 17:39 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 18:53 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 05:26 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 09:14 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-16 19:29 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 23:02 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-16 22:32 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:35 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 03:28 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:41 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 19:24 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:02 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 12:16 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 13:41 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 18:55 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2026-10-17 12:52 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 15:03 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 20:08 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 20:05 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-17 18:33 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 18:57 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 22:03 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-17 22:38 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-18 01:40 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 03:26 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:07 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-17 09:45 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-17 18:33 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-17 19:10 +0000
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 13:01 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 14:33 +0100
Re: OT - temperatures "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 17:40 +0200
Re: OT - temperatures The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 19:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:26 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:07 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-09 02:28 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:32 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 00:46 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:29 +0200
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:20 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-09 22:32 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-09 23:08 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 19:34 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-10 19:30 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 21:56 +0200
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-11 21:15 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 11:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-11 22:15 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:54 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 18:35 +0100
Re: OT - TV John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> - 2026-10-11 18:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 20:10 +0100
Re: OT - TV NY <me@privacy.net> - 2026-10-11 20:54 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 03:26 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:11 +1100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 02:24 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 03:49 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:17 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 16:27 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 07:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-12 03:13 -0400
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 21:07 +1100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 18:21 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-12 18:26 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-13 22:36 +1100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:17 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:55 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 18:09 +1100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 18:02 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:01 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 17:58 +1100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-11 17:46 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 15:18 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 14:59 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:29 +0200
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 23:46 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:48 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-12 18:28 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 19:11 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 22:35 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 01:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-13 06:16 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:27 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:40 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:54 +0200
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-13 19:57 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 21:10 +0200
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:06 +1100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 20:21 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 22:09 +0200
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 22:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:09 +1100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:31 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 04:24 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-13 17:21 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 03:53 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-14 08:54 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 19:27 +0100
Re: OT - TV Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> - 2026-10-14 11:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-15 00:12 +1100
Re: OT - TV Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 00:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-13 12:08 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 13:16 +0200
Re: OT - TV JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> - 2026-10-13 12:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 18:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-13 18:16 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 19:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 20:00 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-13 20:28 +0100
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 22:51 -0400
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-10-14 00:32 -0400
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-14 01:26 -0400
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-14 14:08 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-14 18:58 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 10:20 +0100
Re: OT - TV Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-15 15:25 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-15 19:11 +0100
Re: OT - TV Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-16 01:50 +0000
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-16 00:39 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-16 10:34 +0100
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Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:37 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:36 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 00:03 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:21 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:15 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:16 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:48 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:16 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 08:07 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:20 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:18 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:06 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:25 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:32 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:22 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:34 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:25 +0200
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 16:25 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:32 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-27 15:04 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:39 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-27 19:58 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 09:13 +0100
Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-28 09:39 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 11:26 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 13:04 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 16:42 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-28 16:45 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-28 17:53 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-28 19:26 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:25 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 09:43 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:56 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 10:41 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 13:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 13:39 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 15:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 14:19 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 15:47 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-29 20:01 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:06 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-30 01:25 +0100
Re: OT - TV Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-09-30 01:15 +0000
Re: OT - TV Carlos <crazyhotwrse8@stinty.org> - 2026-10-03 20:41 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-10-03 21:28 -0400
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 17:16 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 18:50 +0100
[OT] - power (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-29 19:05 +0100
Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 19:15 +0100
Re: [OT] - power "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:48 +0200
Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:00 +0100
Re: [OT] - power c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 15:30 -0400
Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:47 +0100
Re: [OT] - power Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-30 13:28 -0400
Re: [OT] - power The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:24 +0100
Re: OT - TV Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-09-29 14:58 -0400
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:52 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:01 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:36 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:55 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 03:57 +0000
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-04 10:40 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 11:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-04 15:59 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:25 +0100
[OT] energy (was: Re: OT - TV) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-04 23:54 +0100
Re: [OT] energy (was: Re: OT - TV) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 00:57 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 08:56 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:12 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 16:04 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 19:31 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 19:59 +0100
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 19:04 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:19 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 21:41 +0200
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 01:39 +0000
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:27 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:09 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:14 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:27 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 12:06 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:37 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:03 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 12:26 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:45 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-06 03:52 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:38 +0100
Re: [OT] energy Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-10-11 16:29 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:51 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:30 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:10 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 14:43 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 14:10 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 19:54 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 08:51 +0100
Re: [OT] energy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-05 04:40 -0400
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 15:19 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 16:20 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 19:32 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:02 +0100
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 19:03 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 20:13 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-05 21:42 +0200
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 01:37 +0000
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:42 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:42 +0100
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-07 18:37 +0000
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 07:47 +0100
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-08 01:20 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 14:03 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-10-11 16:28 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 10:49 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 08:35 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:01 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 11:36 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:12 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 12:52 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:01 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:03 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:05 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:57 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-07 12:14 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:51 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-08 14:06 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-10 12:26 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-10 20:11 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:48 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:07 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-06 13:38 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-06 14:46 +0200
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:03 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:56 +0100
Re: [OT] energy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-06 14:18 +0000
Re: [OT] energy Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 10:33 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-07 11:22 +0100
Re: [OT] energy Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2026-10-11 14:14 +0200
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:33 +0200
Re: [OT] energy "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-11 23:47 +0100
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:39 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:31 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 11:39 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:35 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-12 13:20 +0100
Re: [OT] energy "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-12 21:50 +0200
Re: [OT] energy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-13 08:20 +0100
Re: [OT] energy Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-10-12 23:18 +1100
Re: [OT] energy (was: Re: OT - TV) chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-10-05 06:40 -0500
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-27 20:18 +1000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:54 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 03:52 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 19:41 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 20:36 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 20:58 +1000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 20:56 +0100
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-24 22:24 +1000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:07 +0100
Re: OT - TV Abandoned Trolley <that.bloke@microsoft.com> - 2026-09-24 12:53 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 14:09 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 18:56 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 10:47 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 10:01 +0100
OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 14:42 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 15:04 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 15:55 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:18 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-24 19:50 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 10:34 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:10 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 04:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 05:12 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 10:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 13:52 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 15:41 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 19:35 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-25 21:30 +1000
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-25 19:54 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-25 21:14 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:38 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-26 20:06 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 09:16 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 10:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 13:24 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:35 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-27 18:36 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:02 +0200
Re: OT - TV Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:09 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:03 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-28 14:46 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-29 09:22 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-29 09:00 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-29 10:49 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-29 18:46 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 01:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 01:57 +0000
Re: OT - TV Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-09-30 22:07 +1000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-30 14:30 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:42 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:51 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:31 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-30 11:55 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-30 12:50 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:35 +0000
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-30 23:02 -0400
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:19 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 12:27 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:22 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:20 +0000
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 06:57 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:22 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 12:43 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 19:21 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:58 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 01:09 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:08 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 19:28 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 09:14 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 12:11 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 11:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 13:31 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 17:44 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 20:19 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 17:37 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-04 20:29 +0200
Re: OT - TV c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-04 23:56 -0400
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:19 +0200
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:25 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:12 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 00:48 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:05 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-03 13:43 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:09 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:49 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-02 22:18 +0200
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 21:33 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 00:58 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:07 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-02 07:07 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 18:33 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:13 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 19:06 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:51 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 02:41 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:31 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 19:11 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-04 09:10 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 18:00 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-04 18:33 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-05 00:40 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-05 08:57 +0100
Re: OT - TV Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-04 10:44 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-04 18:08 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 00:59 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 06:12 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 13:02 +0100
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 15:28 +0200
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-10-01 14:28 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 21:03 +0000
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-30 17:27 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-30 18:27 +0000
Re: OT - TV "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-01 01:03 +0200
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 03:31 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:29 +0100
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-10-01 02:10 +0100
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-01 11:23 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-01 20:36 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 13:24 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-02 18:47 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-02 20:34 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 02:50 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-03 09:46 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-10-03 19:51 +0000
Re: OT - TV Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-10-02 03:59 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-02 18:17 +0000
Re: OT - TV (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 15:04 +0000
Re: OT - TV "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-23 16:28 +0100
Re: OT - TV Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-23 15:51 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:20 +0100
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-24 18:26 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:20 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-24 18:44 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-25 09:27 +0100
Re: OT - TV rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-25 17:55 +0000
Re: OT - TV Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-25 19:14 +0000
Re: OT - TV The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-26 03:43 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-22 16:05 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-09-22 18:19 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-22 18:31 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-23 09:45 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2026-09-23 14:41 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-24 12:09 +0100
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 03:14 -0400
Re: Killer price on a mini PC Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> - 2026-09-26 12:10 +0000
Re: Killer price on a mini PC c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-26 21:55 -0400
OT - TV (now radio) (was: Re: Killer price on a mini PC) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-09-27 09:49 +0100
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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 06:12 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <119ktkd$tgdj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92520 |
>"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >>> >>> I'm not familiar with valves EZ80 and 6CA4, >> >> Google >> https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_ez80.html >> >> Both those tube you mention have 2 anodes and one cathode, >> each are used as 2 diodes to make 347 V from two opposite phase transformer >> outputs, to give a power line with less ripple (100 Hz versus a 50 Hz ripple >> or 120 Hz versus 60 Hz in 'merryca, as in case of one diode, >> that way needing less supply filtering, allows smaller filter capacitors to be >> used, >> >> anode1 >> 0----->|---- >> |--0 -cathode >> 0----->|---- >> anode2 >> >> >>> I don't understand the drawings. :-? >> >> It is a schematic diagram shows how the 'tubes' are connected. >> >> You need some electronics expericne to understand thsoe circuit. > >I am an electronics engineer :-) Practical experience with tubes? >What I don't understand is why the two anodes have different sizes. In the drawing? Maybe just a drawing error / constraint. https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_ez80.html Both anodes look the same size to me! IIRC I have used that tube in the long ago past.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 03:29 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <bNGdndUjQvZoliP3nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92548 |
On 10/1/26 02:12, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm not familiar with valves EZ80 and 6CA4, >>> >>> Google >>> https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_ez80.html >>> >>> Both those tube you mention have 2 anodes and one cathode, >>> each are used as 2 diodes to make 347 V from two opposite phase transformer >>> outputs, to give a power line with less ripple (100 Hz versus a 50 Hz ripple >>> or 120 Hz versus 60 Hz in 'merryca, as in case of one diode, >>> that way needing less supply filtering, allows smaller filter capacitors to be >>> used, >>> >>> anode1 >>> 0----->|---- >>> |--0 -cathode >>> 0----->|---- >>> anode2 >>> >>> >>>> I don't understand the drawings. :-? >>> >>> It is a schematic diagram shows how the 'tubes' are connected. >>> >>> You need some electronics expericne to understand thsoe circuit. >> >> I am an electronics engineer :-) > > Practical experience with tubes? Some remain. I did SOME work with tubes/valves back in my youth. The high-voltage shit was a pain however. Transistors ARE easier. Now most 'radio' shit is purpose-designed chips - out of your hands. No more creativity allowed. >> What I don't understand is why the two anodes have different sizes. > > In the drawing? > Maybe just a drawing error / constraint. > > https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_ez80.html > Both anodes look the same size to me! > IIRC I have used that tube in the long ago past. "Drawings" are often NOT to scale.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 14:53 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <ni73dvFpqdvU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92553 |
On 2026-10-01 09:29, c186282 wrote:
> On 10/1/26 02:12, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>> What I don't understand is why the two anodes have different sizes.
>>
>> In the drawing?
>> Maybe just a drawing error / constraint.
>>
>> https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_ez80.html
>> Both anodes look the same size to me!
>> IIRC I have used that tube in the long ago past.
>
> "Drawings" are often NOT to scale.
Maybe a millilitre difference, not double.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 03:32 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <119l2a5$v5j9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92548 |
On Thu, 10/1/2026 2:12 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm not familiar with valves EZ80 and 6CA4, >>> >>> Google >>> https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_ez80.html >>> >>> Both those tube you mention have 2 anodes and one cathode, >>> each are used as 2 diodes to make 347 V from two opposite phase transformer >>> outputs, to give a power line with less ripple (100 Hz versus a 50 Hz ripple >>> or 120 Hz versus 60 Hz in 'merryca, as in case of one diode, >>> that way needing less supply filtering, allows smaller filter capacitors to be >>> used, >>> >>> anode1 >>> 0----->|---- >>> |--0 -cathode >>> 0----->|---- >>> anode2 >>> >>> >>>> I don't understand the drawings. :-? >>> >>> It is a schematic diagram shows how the 'tubes' are connected. >>> >>> You need some electronics expericne to understand thsoe circuit. >> >> I am an electronics engineer :-) > > Practical experience with tubes? > > >> What I don't understand is why the two anodes have different sizes. > > In the drawing? > Maybe just a drawing error / constraint. > > https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_ez80.html > Both anodes look the same size to me! > IIRC I have used that tube in the long ago past. > Given the age of the materials, an LLM-AI may not have a good training set for this, but this is the answer I can easily get. *************************** CoPilot Questioj ************************* The EZ80 radio vacuum tube, is sometimes drawn in schematics with an asymmetric symbol. Even though the two anodes are symmetric and arranged cross-shaped inside the glass radio tube envelope. Pin 1 and Pin 7 are the two anodes. Pin 3 is the cathode. One anode symbol is larger than the other. Is this vacuum tube symbol in the schematic, inherited from a previous badly behaved rectifier tube it replaces ? As there seem to be symbols available in other schematics, where the anode symbols are the same size. The only reason this matters to an observer, is sometimes these symbols are a warning, about some characteristic to be observed while designing with the device. *************************** CoPilot answer *************************** The short answer: **No—there is no evidence that the asymmetric EZ80 symbol is inherited from a misbehaving predecessor.** The asymmetry is a *drafting convention*, not a warning about tube behavior. Both anodes in the EZ80 are physically and electrically identical. ( https://r-type.org/exhib/adg0001.htm ) --- ### What the sources actually show - The Valve Museum explicitly states: **“The two anodes are identical.”** ( https://r-type.org/exhib/adg0001.htm ) This confirms that the device itself has no internal asymmetry that would justify a warning symbol. - Historical symbol references (James Ollinger’s overview) explain that **vacuum‑tube schematic symbols evolved by convention**, not by strict standardization. Engineers often drew elements in ways that were visually convenient, even if not physically accurate. ( https://www.jollinger.com/radio/tubes/tube_schematic_symbols.html ) - Early rectifier tubes (e.g., Type 80, UX213) did have varied symbol styles, but **none of the authoritative historical sources describe an asymmetric plate symbol used as a warning** or carried forward into later tubes. ( https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_80.html ) --- ### Why the EZ80 symbol sometimes looks asymmetric The asymmetry you’ve seen - one plate drawn larger or differently shaped is almost certainly due to **draftsman shorthand**: - In many schematic styles, the two plates of a full-wave rectifier are drawn offset or with different lengths simply to make the wiring clearer. - Some draftsmen drew one plate "dominant" to indicate which side of the transformer winding it connected to, but this was **not a standardized practice** and **not a functional warning**. - Other schematics draw both plates identically, which aligns with the actual tube structure. (You’ve noticed these too.) This variability is exactly what Ollinger notes: tube symbols "are conventions - varied and complicated ... and changed over the years.” ( https://www.jollinger.com/radio/tubes/tube_schematic_symbols.html ) --- ### Is it inherited from a badly behaved predecessor? There *were* earlier rectifier tubes with quirks—high forward drop, heater-cathode leakage, surge sensitivity—but **none of the historical documentation indicates that their schematic symbols encoded these issues** or that EZ80 inherited any symbolic warning from them. The EZ80’s predecessors (EZ40, AZ41, GZ40, etc.) are listed in Radiomuseum’s lineage, but no asymmetric plate symbol convention is mentioned. ( https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_ez80.html ) --- ### So what does the asymmetric symbol *mean*? **Nothing electrical.** It’s not a warning about imbalance, surge behavior, preferred orientation, or transformer phasing. It’s simply: - A drafting artifact - A visual simplification - A way to avoid clutter in crowded schematics - A non‑standardized symbol that varies by publication, country, and era --- ### If you’re designing with the EZ80 There are **no special characteristics** associated with one anode versus the other. Both plates have identical ratings and identical surge behavior. The datasheet and museum sources confirm this. ( https://r-type.org/exhib/adg0001.htm ) The only real design cautions for the EZ80 are: - Series resistance to limit surge current - Maximum reservoir capacitor size - Heater-cathode insulation limits None of these relate to plate asymmetry. --- ### Follow-up question for you Do you want a breakdown of **how different schematic styles represent dual-anode rectifiers** (European vs. American vs. British drafting conventions)? I can map out the symbol families and show where the asymmetric versions come from. *************************** End: CoPilot answer *************************** Given that follow-up question at the end there, it's possible this is a country specific convention. My draftsman at work (in an era when they still had such things), was a stickler for the conventions, which is a minor annoyance, but was his job. The reason we're noting this, is if you look at the number of symbols and their conventions, "everything has a reason". It's not often someone would do that just as a "styling". Paul
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 14:49 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <ni7364Fpqe0U9@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92548 |
On 2026-10-01 08:12, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm not familiar with valves EZ80 and 6CA4,
>>>
>>> Google
>>> https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_ez80.html
>>>
>>> Both those tube you mention have 2 anodes and one cathode,
>>> each are used as 2 diodes to make 347 V from two opposite phase transformer
>>> outputs, to give a power line with less ripple (100 Hz versus a 50 Hz ripple
>>> or 120 Hz versus 60 Hz in 'merryca, as in case of one diode,
>>> that way needing less supply filtering, allows smaller filter capacitors to be
>>> used,
>>>
>>> anode1
>>> 0----->|----
>>> |--0 -cathode
>>> 0----->|----
>>> anode2
>>>
>>>
>>>> I don't understand the drawings. :-?
>>>
>>> It is a schematic diagram shows how the 'tubes' are connected.
>>>
>>> You need some electronics expericne to understand thsoe circuit.
>>
>> I am an electronics engineer :-)
>
> Practical experience with tubes?
None. Not in college, either. Only had technical readings before that.
And some experimenting on my own.
>
>
>> What I don't understand is why the two anodes have different sizes.
>
> In the drawing?
> Maybe just a drawing error / constraint.
Yes, in the drawings. It may be Orcad, looks like it.
>
> https://www.radiomuseum.org/tubes/tube_ez80.html
> Both anodes look the same size to me!
> IIRC I have used that tube in the long ago past.
The drawing here is what I would expect.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 12:57 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <119lhs0$147lq$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92520 |
On 30/09/2026 23:50, Carlos E. R. wrote: > I am an electronics engineer :-) > > What I don't understand is why the two anodes have different sizes. > > Draughtsmen are not electronic engineers. There may have been distinctly 'different' anodes I've never come across a twin diode 'bottle'. I think mostly amps I have seen use to distinct anodes and cathodes in the same bottle Oh. My bad. No they are single cathode twin anode. The GZ34 is the most common https://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/030/g/GZ34.pdf -- "I guess a rattlesnake ain't risponsible fer bein' a rattlesnake, but ah puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 15:19 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <ni74urFpqe0U10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92577 |
On 2026-10-01 13:57, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 30/09/2026 23:50, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> I am an electronics engineer :-)
>>
>> What I don't understand is why the two anodes have different sizes.
>>
>>
> Draughtsmen are not electronic engineers. There may have been distinctly
> 'different' anodes
The drawing appears to have been done with CAD, probably Orcad, because
it has its appeareance. Components like valves are taken from a library.
The engineer uses the program, just using the existing components,
designed by the software company, and some times locally.
I wonder what was the intention of the designer when creating that
library. It surprised me a lot. Had I been in charge, I would have used
the library editor and changed that plate.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 14:34 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <119lr22$18uu4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92577 |
>The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>wrote: >>On 30/09/2026 23:50, Carlos E. R. wrote: > >> I am an electronics engineer :-) >> >> What I don't understand is why the two anodes have different sizes. >> >> >Draughtsmen are not electronic engineers. There may have been distinctly >'different' anodes > >I've never come across a twin diode 'bottle'. I think mostly amps I >have seen use to distinct anodes and cathodes in the same bottle > >Oh. My bad. No they are single cathode twin anode. > >The GZ34 is the most common > >https://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/030/g/GZ34.pdf Impressive! How the world changed when the Si bridge rectifier came!
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-01 15:51 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <119ls0l$197ru$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92588 |
On 01/10/2026 15:34, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>wrote: >>> On 30/09/2026 23:50, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >>> I am an electronics engineer :-) >>> >>> What I don't understand is why the two anodes have different sizes. >>> >>> >> Draughtsmen are not electronic engineers. There may have been distinctly >> 'different' anodes >> >> I've never come across a twin diode 'bottle'. I think mostly amps I >> have seen use to distinct anodes and cathodes in the same bottle >> >> Oh. My bad. No they are single cathode twin anode. >> >> The GZ34 is the most common >> >> https://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/030/g/GZ34.pdf > > Impressive! > How the world changed when the Si bridge rectifier came! > Sagging high resistance valve rectifiers are part of the 'valve sound' With a guitar you can strike a power chord and the reservoir caps will give you more power than the rectifier can ultimately sustain. -- “it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism (or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that you live neither in Joseph Stalin’s Communist era, nor in the Orwellian utopia of 1984.” Vaclav Klaus
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| From | Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-02 06:52 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <119nkbs$1s451$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92590 |
>The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>wrote: >>On 01/10/2026 15:34, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>wrote: >>>> On 30/09/2026 23:50, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> >>>> I am an electronics engineer :-) >>>> >>>> What I don't understand is why the two anodes have different sizes. >>>> >>>> >>> Draughtsmen are not electronic engineers. There may have been distinctly >>> 'different' anodes >>> >>> I've never come across a twin diode 'bottle'. I think mostly amps I >>> have seen use to distinct anodes and cathodes in the same bottle >>> >>> Oh. My bad. No they are single cathode twin anode. >>> >>> The GZ34 is the most common >>> >>> https://frank.pocnet.net/sheets/030/g/GZ34.pdf >> >> Impressive! >> How the world changed when the Si bridge rectifier came! >> >Sagging high resistance valve rectifiers are part of the 'valve sound' > >With a guitar you can strike a power chord and the reservoir caps will >give you more power than the rectifier can ultimately sustain. In my high school days I designed and build a tube amplifier for the school band The guitar player liked it, Many years later he asked me to design some more stuff for him.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-10-04 07:52 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <niebd4Fjb3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #92520 |
Carlos E. R. wrote: > Jan Panteltje wrote: > >> anode1 >> 0----->|---- >> |--0 -cathode >> 0----->|---- >> anode2 >> >> It is a schematic diagram shows how the 'tubes' are connected. >> You need some electronics expericne to understand thsoe circuit. > > I am an electronics engineer :-) > What I don't understand is why the two anodes have different sizes. Not all symbols show them with different sizes <https://www.r-type.org/pdfs/ez80-1.pdf >
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-10-04 03:15 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <PhmdnedaweOHYFz3nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #92799 |
On 10/4/26 02:52, Andy Burns wrote: > Carlos E. R. wrote: > >> Jan Panteltje wrote: >> >>> anode1 >>> 0----->|---- >>> |--0 -cathode >>> 0----->|---- >>> anode2 >>> >>> It is a schematic diagram shows how the 'tubes' are connected. >>> You need some electronics expericne to understand thsoe circuit. >> >> I am an electronics engineer :-) >> What I don't understand is why the two anodes have different sizes. > > Not all symbols show them with different sizes > > <https://www.r-type.org/pdfs/ez80-1.pdf > > True. "Diagrams" pref to show actual connection details. However there's just SO much space on a page so don't expect every valve/cap/whatever to be "to physical scale". Hey, a power or impedance-matching transformer, "to scale", it'd use up 80 percent of a page easily :-)
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-10-04 15:51 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <119tp65$8ag$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92800 |
On 2026/10/4 8:15:36, c186282 wrote: > On 10/4/26 02:52, Andy Burns wrote: [] >> Not all symbols show them with different sizes >> >> <https://www.r-type.org/pdfs/ez80-1.pdf >> > > > True. "Diagrams" pref to show actual connection > details. However there's just SO much space on > a page so don't expect every valve/cap/whatever > to be "to physical scale". > > Hey, a power or impedance-matching transformer, > "to scale", it'd use up 80 percent of a page > easily :-) > I've rarely seen a circuit diagramme - or schematic diagram as they're called in US - that shows "actual connection details" if that means a physical representation; in the case of valves (tubes), the closest is to show the pin numbers (but not to rearrange the representation of what's inside such that adjacent numbers are adjacent). I think it's even what "schematic" _means_ that it _represents_ how things are connected together, not how they're physically arranged. There _are_ some historic anachronisms that have remained: the symbol we mostly use for a transistor - basically shaped like a capital letter K (as well as the name "base" for that connection) - represents the original point-contact transistors (but like a cat's-whisker in construction); I have seen a transistor symbol with the base as a horizontal rectangle, with the emitter and collector as a vertical line through it with an arrow on the emitter side, but that's rarely used (and probably not in any standard). The best-known schematic diagramme - showing connections, not geographical layout - is the London tube map (which many other such maps around the world, for both underground and overground network maps follow). When first proposed (by an electrical engineer! who worked for them), London Transport didn't think it would be very popular, as it is actually far from geographically representational; however, it proved exceptionally so, and remains so to this day, to the extent that many people's mental image of London _is_ the tube map, not the real layout. (The best-known example of its non-geographicality is that there is at least one case of a pair of stations X and Y, where looking at the "map" you'd think you'd get on one tube line from X, go one stop to a junction station, change, and go one stop on the other line to Y - whereas in fact it'd be quicker to walk out of station X and walk 100 yards down the road to where Y is.) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf If, after hearing my songs, just one human being is inspired to say something nasty to a friend, or perhaps to strike a loved one, it will all have been worth the while. - Liner notes, "Songs & More Songs By Tom Lehrer", Rhino Records, 1997.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-10-04 18:16 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <119u1kk$3glq$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92836 |
On 04/10/2026 15:51, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > I have seen a transistor symbol with the base as a > horizontal rectangle, with the emitter and collector as a vertical line > through it with an arrow on the emitter side, but that's rarely used > (and probably not in any standard). It was a standard, but at some point some august intertanational body changed it all to what we have now -- There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent renewable energy.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-27 13:12 +0200 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <s9anomx1v7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #92224 |
On 2026-09-26 20:08, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > uk.tech.broadcast added, as it seemed appropriate! I'll maybe remove the > Windows and Linux ones next time. > > On 2026/9/26 11:47:1, Abandoned Trolley wrote: >> On 26/09/2026 11:11, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2026-09-25 21:39, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >>>> On 2026/9/25 0:17:41, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >>>>> On 2026-09-24, J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: >>>> [] >>> ... >>>> >>>> (Cable _radio_ did have some reach, I think in the 1950s; I'm not sure >>>> about this, but I _think_ that was basically a big radio (wireless) set >>>> at the hub, with just direct audio distributed. Not sure how channel >>>> selection was implemented! "Rediffusion" was I think the main company.) >>> >>> I had not heard of cable radio. Interesting. > > I don't think it was called that.>> >>> However, radio over a phone line, yes. Still exists here, usually hired >>> by commercial sites. I assume that now it uses internet. >>> >>> I asked ChatGPT: it was called "Hilo musical" (musical wire or thread), >>> a Telefónica service. Currently it is named "Spotmusic". Different >>> technology. >>> >>> The old one transmitted 6 channels on the same copper pair used for the >>> phone, at a higher frequency. Somewhat similar to ADSL. >>> > I asked GoogleAI: > > Yes, Rediffusion originally started in the UK by relaying radio > broadcasts directly to subscribers' homes over wired networks. > > How the Radio Relay Worked > • Wired Distribution: Founded as Broadcast Relay Service Limited (later > named Rediffusion) in 1928, the company used physical cables to pipe > radio programs straight into houses. > • No Radio Set Needed: Subscribers did not need an expensive or > complicated wireless radio receiver; they only needed a simple > loudspeaker and a selector switch wired to the Rediffusion network. > • Clear Reception: The wired "pipe radio" system eliminated static, > fading, and interference common with early aerial radio transmissions. > • BBC and Local Feeds: The service provided crisp audio relays of BBC > radio programmes and other stations from the early 1930s onwards, long > before the company expanded into television rental and commercial > broadcasting. > > The standard Rediffusion selector box was a purely mechanical, > multi-position rotary switch that didn't require any mains electricity > or batteries to function. > ⚙️ How the Box Operated > • Central Distribution: Rediffusion set up central amplification > stations in towns. These stations received radio (and later, TV) signals > over the air via high-quality aerials. > • Multi-Core Cables: The amplified signals were sent out down the street > using overhead cables that contained multiple separate wires (cores). > Each core carried a different station or channel. > • The Rotary Switch: The selector box in your living room was connected > to this incoming multi-core cable. When you turned the dial, it > physically moved a brass contact inside the box to connect your speaker > to a specific pair of wires inside the cable. > • Volume Control: The box also housed a simple variable resistor > (potentiometer). Turning the volume knob restricted or allowed more > electrical current to flow to the speaker, making the audio quieter or > louder.Because the central station did all the heavy lifting of > capturing and amplifying the signal, the box in the home was effectively > just a remote switch and volume knob for a giant, town-wide audio system.>> > So there you have it! It was as I thought - just audio distribution; not > even carrier.> >> >> >> and it seems like only 60 years ago that we had "Dial a Disc" ... > > I'm pretty surer that continued until at least the 1970s ... Multicore cable! And transmitting actual power! That's expensive. The Telefónica system used the same copper pair as the phone, multiplexing a few channels on higher frequencies. Thus some kind of receiver was needed, but no additional copper. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 10:06 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <1195djh$3ef2u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92094 |
On 24/09/2026 19:44, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> -- Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat. >> > (You need the "-- " to be on a line by itself.) I'm not sure how you > work that out; even if you don't believe in climate change, I don't see > how you make it socialism. (Socialism - or what the US thinks of as > socialism, anyway - isn't necessarily a bad thing anyway; you confuse it > with communism.) Because the intent of it is people control. Not climate control I don't know about your country per se, but here in the UK the 'socialist' parties are more or less communist at heart. Whatever difference there might once have been has vanished, apart from the outward trappings Eg. The 'Watermelon' people 'Green on the outside, red on the inside' Its all part of the second class wannabe academics who think they are smarter than the average bear, and therefore they should be running everybody else's lives. -- Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas? Josef Stalin
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-09-25 20:50 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <1196ja5$3t822$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92129 |
On 2026/9/25 10:6:56, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 24/09/2026 19:44, J. P. Gilliver wrote: >>> -- Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat. >>> >> (You need the "-- " to be on a line by itself.) I'm not sure how you Glad that made sense :-) >> work that out; even if you don't believe in climate change, I don't see >> how you make it socialism. (Socialism - or what the US thinks of as >> socialism, anyway - isn't necessarily a bad thing anyway; you confuse it >> with communism.) > > Because the intent of it is people control. Not climate control You are entitled to your opinion. I grant that it sometimes _seems_ like "people control", in that they're telling (or advising, or asking, people to do things in a way that they might not want to), but I think the main bug in that argument is that people who want to control other people usually want to for some gain to themselves - which most climate control people don't get. Sure, a _few_ may have shares in solar/wind power, but not most. > > I don't know about your country per se, but here in the UK the I was pretty sure you were a MAGA American! > 'socialist' parties are more or less communist at heart. FWIW: I'm in UK too, and generally vote blue - I've never voted red. (Yellow I think, some decades ago.) [For any US readers: our colours are the opposite way round to yours; yours always cause me to have to do a double-take, as surely red is left - e. g. the USSR and Chinese flags!] > > Whatever difference there might once have been has vanished, apart from > the outward trappings Oh, I don't know - even the labour party (or most of them) can see how bad life in Russia or China (let alone North Korea) is. > > Eg. The 'Watermelon' people 'Green on the outside, red on the inside' I like it! Hadn't heard that one. (My own nickname for a group is "Alphabet people", for the LGBT... people - I'm actually mostly for them [or at least against the discrimination and hate against them], but their tendency to keep adding letters to their string loses them credibility with me ...) > > Its all part of the second class wannabe academics who think they are > smarter than the average bear, and therefore they should be running > everybody else's lives. > Shoulder, chip? > > -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than going to a garage makes you a car." - Laurence J. Peter
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-26 01:31 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <5gFtS.18905$v_2.11705@fx06.iad> |
| In reply to | #92156 |
On 2026-09-25, J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: > I like it! Hadn't heard that one. (My own nickname for a group is > "Alphabet people", for the LGBT... people - I'm actually mostly for them > [or at least against the discrimination and hate against them], but > their tendency to keep adding letters to their string loses them > credibility with me ...) I think the main problem is that they're trying to enumerate every possible variation or combination - which in the end is no more inclusive than the discrimination they're fighting. (Compare it with South Africa's Byzantine race designations.) I just call it LGBTLMNOP and let it go at that. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-26 04:21 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <1197dn0$4mt6$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92166 |
On 26/09/2026 02:31, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-09-25, J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote: > >> I like it! Hadn't heard that one. (My own nickname for a group is >> "Alphabet people", for the LGBT... people - I'm actually mostly for them >> [or at least against the discrimination and hate against them], but >> their tendency to keep adding letters to their string loses them >> credibility with me ...) > > I think the main problem is that they're trying to enumerate > every possible variation or combination - which in the end > is no more inclusive than the discrimination they're fighting. > (Compare it with South Africa's Byzantine race designations.) > I just call it LGBTLMNOP and let it go at that. > There is no discrimination: That's the issue, they are trying to CREATE it by being in yer face assholes Visited my old college for a meeting, in the college bar is this boy in a cotton print summer frock fiddling with his laptop. one glance and I - and the rest of the bar - ignored him completely. After ten minutes there was this explosion of anger and he stormed out. It's terrible when all you want is to be noticed and provoke a reaction and no one actually gives a fuck. The whole Marxist thing is all about finding - or creating a class of 'oppressed' people and then pissing everybody off and creating as much hatred as possible by demanding whatever is the latest outrageous reparation. My gay nephew loves pride marches. Easiest place ever to pick up a one night stand, he reckons. Having been in the Oslo gay bar that was shot up by Muslims, he is somewhat Islamophobic though. I can't imagine why. Best thing I ever heard Farage say, when asked what he thought about gay marriage, was a long pause followed by 'I don't'. Me neither. In fact about 95% of 'Left Wing Progressive Thought' is almost completely pointless irrelevant bollocks. The other 5% *is* completely pointless irrelevant bollocks. But that doesn't make Trump some kind of saviour. 95% of Trump is also bollocks. The problem is people want to be told what to *believe*. They have these low grade minds that need to be occupied. So politics is happy to provide some arbitrary metaphysics to fill it with and shape their thinking. They tell women they are repressed by a 'patriarchy' and should speak out and demand what they are worth. Then, when they get exactly what they are worth, which is loneliness at age 40, they complain about *that*. 'Critical race theory' is the same. It solves nothing and just leads to lonely shouty black people demanding whatever and being shunned by everyone who just want to get on with stuff. Greens and climate. More of the same Moslems and Sharia law. Me! Me! Look at Me! I am oppressed and I want my yuman rites! "Life is rough, tough, and desperately unjust, and you had better get used to it" I was taught at school. Later on "Life's a bitch - and then you die" Now even the Right is infested with it. Make America Grovel Again. Trump is laughing all the way to the bank. No one is merely content to live a reasonably happy life, not stand out because really, they don't have anything to say, and just sleep soundly at night. -- It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. Mark Twain
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| From | "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-09-26 19:26 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: OT - TV |
| Message-ID | <11992oc$nbah$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #92170 |
On 2026/9/26 4:21:4, The Natural Philosopher wrote: [] > "Life is rough, tough, and desperately unjust, and you had better get > used to it" I was taught at school. In my opinion, taking steps to reduce the unjustness is generally not a bad thing to do - certainly not preserving it.> > Later on "Life's a bitch - and then you die" If you followed that, why bother living?[] > No one is merely content to live a reasonably happy life, not stand out > because really, they don't have anything to say, and just sleep soundly > at night. > Some are, especially as they get older. > > -- > It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. > Mark Twain > (Good one.) Your "-- " line has gained leading spaces, which stops it working.> > The Twain one reminds me of this one: "Galbraith's Law of Human Nature: Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everybody gets busy on the proof." - John Kenneth Galbraith -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf There I was, sitting in a glum mood - 'Cheer up, things could be worse', he said, so I cheered up, and sure enough, things got worse.
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