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Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-15 03:52 -0400
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-09-15 10:54 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-15 23:30 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> - 2026-09-15 17:08 +0800
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-15 16:38 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-15 17:21 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-15 21:32 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 01:07 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 00:35 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-16 07:13 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 11:38 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-16 21:26 -0400
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 08:17 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 06:25 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 08:38 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-17 03:34 -0400
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-17 02:41 -0400
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 09:44 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-17 17:44 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 20:38 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 19:39 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 19:35 +0000
Ventoy for ISO management? (Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-09-26 09:23 -0700
Re: Ventoy for ISO management? (Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-26 19:21 +0000
Re: Ventoy for ISO management? (Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) jayjwa <jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx.invalid> - 2026-09-26 19:21 -0400
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-27 03:00 +0000
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2026-09-27 04:18 +0000
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-27 07:05 +0000
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 09:17 +0100
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:57 +0100
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 14:23 +0200
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 17:41 +0100
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 19:55 +0200
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:53 +0200
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:04 +0100
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-27 04:13 -0400
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-27 12:53 +0200
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-28 01:37 -0400
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-28 10:09 +0200
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> - 2026-09-28 12:10 +0200
Re: Tips for dd ( was Re: Ventoy for ISO management?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-28 23:03 +0000
Re: Ventoy for ISO management? (Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-27 18:56 +0200
Re: Ventoy for ISO management? (Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-27 18:17 +0100
Re: Ventoy for ISO management? (Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2026-09-28 00:50 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 19:28 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 11:37 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 18:04 +0000
ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito (was: Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 18:55 +0100
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-16 22:25 -0400
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 08:22 +0200
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-17 03:28 -0400
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 10:32 +0200
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 20:25 +0000
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-17 21:26 -0400
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-19 21:39 +0200
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-20 01:55 +0000
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-20 14:10 +0200
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-20 17:35 +0000
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-20 21:01 +0200
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-21 02:28 +0000
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-21 11:36 +0200
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-21 19:06 +0000
Re: ISO9660 images, vfat USB mass storage devices and El Torito "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-21 21:48 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 00:33 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-16 07:14 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-16 05:45 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-16 08:52 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-16 07:44 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-16 10:07 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 17:53 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-17 14:02 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 19:02 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-17 22:18 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 06:18 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 11:39 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 17:48 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-16 20:40 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-16 21:40 -0400
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-16 22:18 -0400
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-17 03:29 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 08:25 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-17 02:33 -0400
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-17 14:11 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-09-17 20:40 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-17 14:00 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-09-16 21:27 -0400
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 02:11 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-17 14:07 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-17 19:41 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 11:35 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 18:02 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-17 14:04 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-09-16 01:05 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-09-15 05:50 -0700
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Philippe <p.naudin+nntp@free.fr> - 2026-09-15 15:23 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2026-10-08 15:52 -0400
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Cóilín Nioclásín Glostéir <thanks-to@Taf.com> - 2026-10-10 18:40 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-11 00:12 -0400
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-11 10:01 +0100
Monochrome and readability (was: Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO !) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:15 +0100
Re: Monochrome and readability The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:37 +0100
Re: Monochrome and readability c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-12 01:06 -0400
Re: Monochrome and readability Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-10-12 10:12 +0100
Re: Monochrome and readability Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-12 21:08 +0000
Re: Monochrome and readability John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-10-12 14:50 -0700
Re: Monochrome and readability Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-10-15 02:51 +0000
Re: Monochrome and readability c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 00:58 -0400
Re: Monochrome and readability Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-10-12 16:27 +0000
Re: Monochrome and readability Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-12 21:14 +0000
Re: Monochrome and readability c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-10-13 01:37 -0400
Re: Monochrome and readability "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-10-13 12:50 +0200
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:37 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-10-11 21:31 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-10-11 10:31 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-09-15 14:40 +0100
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-15 17:24 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-16 01:50 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-09-16 02:31 +0000
Re: Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-09-16 06:25 +0000
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-15 03:52 -0400 |
| Subject | Wow - Oracle Linux - 10+ Gigabyte ISO ! |
| Message-ID | <DkSdncSkDY0RZDX3nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
Remember when Linux used to be SMALL ???
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| From | Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> |
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| Date | 2026-09-15 10:54 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <118b14u$29efk$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #91469 |
Am 15.09.26 um 09:52 schrieb c186282: > Remember when Linux used to be SMALL ??? > In relation to current disk sizes, this is small. -- Gruß Marco Please send unsolicited mail to dustbin12@stinkedores.dorfdsl.de
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| From | Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-15 23:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <118cke2$2skr3$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #91470 |
And for some reason they won’t include ZFS. Instead, they want you to use btrfs instead. Vote of confidence in their own product, much?
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| From | Woozy Song <suzyw0ng@outlook.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-15 17:08 +0800 |
| Message-ID | <118b1tm$29o5v$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #91469 |
c186282 wrote: > Remember when Linux used to be SMALL ??? > Yes they used to make 'enterprise' linux that fitted on 1 DVD, now bloat bloat bloat
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-15 16:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <118boor$2iekn$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #91471 |
On 15/09/2026 10:08, Woozy Song wrote:
> c186282 wrote:
>> Remember when Linux used to be SMALL ???
>>
>
> Yes they used to make 'enterprise' linux that fitted on 1 DVD,
> now bloat bloat bloat
It still does...
Linux images/linuxmint-22.3-mate-64bit.iso 3.1 GB (3134275584 bytes)
--
"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted
man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest
thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly
persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid
before him."
- Leo Tolstoy
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-15 17:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ngtd59F83ghU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #91483 |
On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 16:38:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 15/09/2026 10:08, Woozy Song wrote: >> c186282 wrote: >>> Remember when Linux used to be SMALL ??? >>> >>> >> Yes they used to make 'enterprise' linux that fitted on 1 DVD, >> now bloat bloat bloat > > It still does... > Linux images/linuxmint-22.3-mate-64bit.iso 3.1 GB (3134275584 bytes) SUSE Leap's offline installer is 4.2G. The largest iso I have is Omarchy at 5.9G. SUSE should still make it on a single layer DVD but not on a vfat formatted thumb drive. It does include 3 DEs.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-15 21:32 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ngtkq4F9b65U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #91485 |
On 2026-09-15 19:21, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 16:38:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 15/09/2026 10:08, Woozy Song wrote:
>>> c186282 wrote:
>>>> Remember when Linux used to be SMALL ???
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes they used to make 'enterprise' linux that fitted on 1 DVD,
>>> now bloat bloat bloat
>>
>> It still does...
>> Linux images/linuxmint-22.3-mate-64bit.iso 3.1 GB (3134275584 bytes)
>
> SUSE Leap's offline installer is 4.2G. The largest iso I have is Omarchy
> at 5.9G. SUSE should still make it on a single layer DVD but not on a vfat
> formatted thumb drive. It does include 3 DEs.
It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the installation
process destroys the format and uses its own instead.
Who is using a fat stick to save isos today, anyway? Not Linux users.
Use exfat at least.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-16 01:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <118cmjs$2t1q9$12@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #91501 |
On 15/09/2026 20:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-09-15 19:21, rbowman wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 16:38:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 15/09/2026 10:08, Woozy Song wrote: >>>> c186282 wrote: >>>>> Remember when Linux used to be SMALL ??? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Yes they used to make 'enterprise' linux that fitted on 1 DVD, >>>> now bloat bloat bloat >>> >>> It still does... >>> Linux images/linuxmint-22.3-mate-64bit.iso 3.1 GB (3134275584 bytes) >> >> SUSE Leap's offline installer is 4.2G. The largest iso I have is Omarchy >> at 5.9G. SUSE should still make it on a single layer DVD but not on a >> vfat >> formatted thumb drive. It does include 3 DEs. > > It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the installation > process destroys the format and uses its own instead. > > Who is using a fat stick to save isos today, anyway? Not Linux users. > Use exfat at least. > ???? the .iso file contains its own formatting, boot and root partitions and all. VFAT doesnt go near it . -- There’s a mighty big difference between good, sound reasons and reasons that sound good. Burton Hillis (William Vaughn, American columnist)
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-16 00:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ngu6i2F83ghU11@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #91516 |
On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 01:07:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 15/09/2026 20:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> On 2026-09-15 19:21, rbowman wrote: >>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 16:38:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 15/09/2026 10:08, Woozy Song wrote: >>>>> c186282 wrote: >>>>>> Remember when Linux used to be SMALL ??? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Yes they used to make 'enterprise' linux that fitted on 1 DVD, >>>>> now bloat bloat bloat >>>> >>>> It still does... >>>> Linux images/linuxmint-22.3-mate-64bit.iso 3.1 GB (3134275584 bytes) >>> >>> SUSE Leap's offline installer is 4.2G. The largest iso I have is >>> Omarchy at 5.9G. SUSE should still make it on a single layer DVD but >>> not on a vfat formatted thumb drive. It does include 3 DEs. >> >> It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the installation >> process destroys the format and uses its own instead. >> >> Who is using a fat stick to save isos today, anyway? Not Linux users. >> Use exfat at least. >> > ???? the .iso file contains its own formatting, boot and root partitions > and all. > > VFAT doesnt go near it . Try copying an iso greater than 4 GB to a vfat formatted thumb drive.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-16 07:13 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ngumrsF9b65U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #91518 |
On 2026-09-16 02:35, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 01:07:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> On 15/09/2026 20:32, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-09-15 19:21, rbowman wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 16:38:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 15/09/2026 10:08, Woozy Song wrote:
>>>>>> c186282 wrote:
>>>>>>> Remember when Linux used to be SMALL ???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes they used to make 'enterprise' linux that fitted on 1 DVD,
>>>>>> now bloat bloat bloat
>>>>>
>>>>> It still does...
>>>>> Linux images/linuxmint-22.3-mate-64bit.iso 3.1 GB (3134275584 bytes)
>>>>
>>>> SUSE Leap's offline installer is 4.2G. The largest iso I have is
>>>> Omarchy at 5.9G. SUSE should still make it on a single layer DVD but
>>>> not on a vfat formatted thumb drive. It does include 3 DEs.
>>>
>>> It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the installation
>>> process destroys the format and uses its own instead.
>>>
>>> Who is using a fat stick to save isos today, anyway? Not Linux users.
>>> Use exfat at least.
>>>
>> ???? the .iso file contains its own formatting, boot and root partitions
>> and all.
>>
>> VFAT doesnt go near it .
>
> Try copying an iso greater than 4 GB to a vfat formatted thumb drive.
>
We know, but you don't copy the ISO to the stick, at least the one for
openSUSE. You "burn" the iso on the stick:
dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda
The formatting goes out of the window. If you just copy it, it will not
boot.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-16 11:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <118dris$39eq9$12@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #91539 |
On 16/09/2026 06:13, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-09-16 02:35, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 01:07:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 15/09/2026 20:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>>> On 2026-09-15 19:21, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 16:38:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 15/09/2026 10:08, Woozy Song wrote: >>>>>>> c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>> Remember when Linux used to be SMALL ??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes they used to make 'enterprise' linux that fitted on 1 DVD, >>>>>>> now bloat bloat bloat >>>>>> >>>>>> It still does... >>>>>> Linux images/linuxmint-22.3-mate-64bit.iso 3.1 GB (3134275584 bytes) >>>>> >>>>> SUSE Leap's offline installer is 4.2G. The largest iso I have is >>>>> Omarchy at 5.9G. SUSE should still make it on a single layer DVD but >>>>> not on a vfat formatted thumb drive. It does include 3 DEs. >>>> >>>> It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the installation >>>> process destroys the format and uses its own instead. >>>> >>>> Who is using a fat stick to save isos today, anyway? Not Linux users. >>>> Use exfat at least. >>>> >>> ???? the .iso file contains its own formatting, boot and root partitions >>> and all. >>> >>> VFAT doesnt go near it . >> >> Try copying an iso greater than 4 GB to a vfat formatted thumb drive. >> > > We know, but you don't copy the ISO to the stick, at least the one for > openSUSE. You "burn" the iso on the stick: > > dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda > Well that is copying it, just not as a file...its copying the file *contents* to the raw device > The formatting goes out of the window. If you just copy it, it will not > boot. > -- Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas? Josef Stalin
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-16 21:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <_vCcncclZvzw3Db3nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #91539 |
On 9/16/26 01:13, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-09-16 02:35, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 01:07:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> >>> On 15/09/2026 20:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>>> On 2026-09-15 19:21, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 15 Sep 2026 16:38:03 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 15/09/2026 10:08, Woozy Song wrote: >>>>>>> c186282 wrote: >>>>>>>> Remember when Linux used to be SMALL ??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes they used to make 'enterprise' linux that fitted on 1 DVD, >>>>>>> now bloat bloat bloat >>>>>> >>>>>> It still does... >>>>>> Linux images/linuxmint-22.3-mate-64bit.iso 3.1 GB (3134275584 bytes) >>>>> >>>>> SUSE Leap's offline installer is 4.2G. The largest iso I have is >>>>> Omarchy at 5.9G. SUSE should still make it on a single layer DVD but >>>>> not on a vfat formatted thumb drive. It does include 3 DEs. >>>> >>>> It works fine in a fat formatted thumb drive, because the installation >>>> process destroys the format and uses its own instead. >>>> >>>> Who is using a fat stick to save isos today, anyway? Not Linux users. >>>> Use exfat at least. >>>> >>> ???? the .iso file contains its own formatting, boot and root partitions >>> and all. >>> >>> VFAT doesnt go near it . >> >> Try copying an iso greater than 4 GB to a vfat formatted thumb drive. >> > > We know, but you don't copy the ISO to the stick, at least the one for > openSUSE. You "burn" the iso on the stick: > > dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda > > The formatting goes out of the window. If you just copy it, it will not > boot. I pref "Etcher" ... does more checks than 'dd'. There are a few others too. In any case, Many Linux distros now seem WAY too fat. Some DO offer a 'basic install' and then you can add just what YOU want ... this may be the better way, but many will still just download the 'everything' version. I'm sure the Oracle version I got was "everything". However I'm most likely to use it in a VM rather than as a native install, so perhaps I should go back looking for the 'smaller' revision. Oops ... looked ... you either get the HUGE one or the 'boot only' version or their "UEK" boot version. Some other distros are more reasonable with a slim version and/or NetInst. Oh well, Winders is still MUCH larger these days ... Oracle ... not 100% sure I *want* to use their stuff given how they're sending most of their workers off to the Soylent Green factory ........
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-17 08:17 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <j8dsnmx95q.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #91591 |
On 2026-09-17 03:26, c186282 wrote: > On 9/16/26 01:13, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> On 2026-09-16 02:35, rbowman wrote: >>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 01:07:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 15/09/2026 20:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >> We know, but you don't copy the ISO to the stick, at least the one for >> openSUSE. You "burn" the iso on the stick: >> >> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda >> >> The formatting goes out of the window. If you just copy it, it will >> not boot. > > > I pref "Etcher" ... does more checks than 'dd'. > There are a few others too. Just had a look, the thing is not included in the openSUSE repos, has to be downloaded from an external site. > > In any case, Many Linux distros now seem WAY too fat. openSUSE has always been fat, but there was a minimal install option. There is even a small install iso, it downloads anything it needs during install. > > Some DO offer a 'basic install' and then you can add > just what YOU want ... this may be the better way, but > many will still just download the 'everything' version. > > I'm sure the Oracle version I got was "everything". > However I'm most likely to use it in a VM rather > than as a native install, so perhaps I should go > back looking for the 'smaller' revision. > > Oops ... looked ... you either get the HUGE one or > the 'boot only' version or their "UEK" boot version. > Some other distros are more reasonable with a slim > version and/or NetInst. > > Oh well, Winders is still MUCH larger these days ... Difference is, it is only the bare system. > > Oracle ... not 100% sure I *want* to use their stuff > given how they're sending most of their workers off > to the Soylent Green factory ........ -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-09-17 06:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nh1ffhF83ghU37@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #91605 |
On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 08:17:23 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-09-17 03:26, c186282 wrote: >> On 9/16/26 01:13, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> On 2026-09-16 02:35, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 01:07:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 15/09/2026 20:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > > >>> We know, but you don't copy the ISO to the stick, at least the one for >>> openSUSE. You "burn" the iso on the stick: >>> >>> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda >>> >>> The formatting goes out of the window. If you just copy it, it will >>> not boot. >> >> >> I pref "Etcher" ... does more checks than 'dd'. >> There are a few others too. > > Just had a look, the thing is not included in the openSUSE repos, has to > be downloaded from an external site. I had issues trying to get BalenaEtcher to work. I'll stick with Disk Image Writer. No big deal but I wonder why it isn't an option with the TumbleWeed version of Dolphin?
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-09-17 08:38 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <1hesnmxj0u.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #91607 |
On 2026-09-17 08:25, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 08:17:23 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2026-09-17 03:26, c186282 wrote: >>> On 9/16/26 01:13, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>>> On 2026-09-16 02:35, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 01:07:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 15/09/2026 20:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >> >> >>>> We know, but you don't copy the ISO to the stick, at least the one for >>>> openSUSE. You "burn" the iso on the stick: >>>> >>>> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda >>>> >>>> The formatting goes out of the window. If you just copy it, it will >>>> not boot. >>> >>> >>> I pref "Etcher" ... does more checks than 'dd'. >>> There are a few others too. >> >> Just had a look, the thing is not included in the openSUSE repos, has to >> be downloaded from an external site. > > I had issues trying to get BalenaEtcher to work. I'll stick with Disk > Image Writer. No big deal but I wonder why it isn't an option with the > TumbleWeed version of Dolphin? The SUSE Studio ImageWriter is gone, at least the Windows version. But zypper finds the rpm. I'll try it the next time. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-17 03:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <w46dnVztwshhCjb3nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #91607 |
On 9/17/26 02:25, rbowman wrote: > On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 08:17:23 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote: > >> On 2026-09-17 03:26, c186282 wrote: >>> On 9/16/26 01:13, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>>> On 2026-09-16 02:35, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 01:07:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 15/09/2026 20:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >> >> >>>> We know, but you don't copy the ISO to the stick, at least the one for >>>> openSUSE. You "burn" the iso on the stick: >>>> >>>> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda >>>> >>>> The formatting goes out of the window. If you just copy it, it will >>>> not boot. >>> >>> >>> I pref "Etcher" ... does more checks than 'dd'. >>> There are a few others too. >> >> Just had a look, the thing is not included in the openSUSE repos, has to >> be downloaded from an external site. > > I had issues trying to get BalenaEtcher to work. I'll stick with Disk > Image Writer. No big deal but I wonder why it isn't an option with the > TumbleWeed version of Dolphin? Etcher and a number of similar work fine. They DO apply extra checks to what's been burned into the stick/dvd. Might be useful - of late I had a bad version of Kali. Etcher FOUND it - 'dd' would not have. Then, mystery crashes ..... AAUUGGH ! Ate FISH, "had" to, tonight. Now I won't be able to sleep until 5 or 6 AM !!! Dunno why.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-09-17 02:41 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <_4OdnQXHEs1kFjb3nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #91605 |
On 9/17/26 02:17, Carlos E.R. wrote: > On 2026-09-17 03:26, c186282 wrote: >> On 9/16/26 01:13, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>> On 2026-09-16 02:35, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 01:07:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 15/09/2026 20:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > >>> >>> We know, but you don't copy the ISO to the stick, at least the one >>> for openSUSE. You "burn" the iso on the stick: >>> >>> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda >>> >>> The formatting goes out of the window. If you just copy it, it will >>> not boot. >> >> >> I pref "Etcher" ... does more checks than 'dd'. >> There are a few others too. > > Just had a look, the thing is not included in the openSUSE repos, has to > be downloaded from an external site. Correct. Lots of stuff is not included in typical distros. MX Linux has a built-in version of a stick/dvd burner if that makes you feel better. >> In any case, Many Linux distros now seem WAY too fat. > > openSUSE has always been fat, but there was a minimal install option. > There is even a small install iso, it downloads anything it needs during > install. SUSE/OpenSUSE has always been kinda fat - however it's mostly been a GOOD kind of 'fat'. Of late however ....... DID use SUSE/OpenSUSE extensively back in the day - but then it got kinda WEIRD and I dropped it in favor of vanilla Deb for my servers. >> Some DO offer a 'basic install' and then you can add >> just what YOU want ... this may be the better way, but >> many will still just download the 'everything' version. >> >> I'm sure the Oracle version I got was "everything". >> However I'm most likely to use it in a VM rather >> than as a native install, so perhaps I should go >> back looking for the 'smaller' revision. >> >> Oops ... looked ... you either get the HUGE one or >> the 'boot only' version or their "UEK" boot version. >> Some other distros are more reasonable with a slim >> version and/or NetInst. >> >> Oh well, Winders is still MUCH larger these days ... > > Difference is, it is only the bare system. "Difference" ? Winders is just HUGE now no matter which version/sub-version you have. 40+ gigs of GARBAGE and spy-ware and gotcha-ware What a horror ! >> Oracle ... not 100% sure I *want* to use their stuff >> given how they're sending most of their workers off >> to the Soylent Green factory ........
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-09-17 09:44 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <acisnmxk77.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #91611 |
On 2026-09-17 08:41, c186282 wrote: > On 9/17/26 02:17, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2026-09-17 03:26, c186282 wrote: >>> On 9/16/26 01:13, Carlos E. R. wrote: >>>> On 2026-09-16 02:35, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 01:07:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 15/09/2026 20:32, Carlos E. R. wrote: >> >> >>>> >>>> We know, but you don't copy the ISO to the stick, at least the one >>>> for openSUSE. You "burn" the iso on the stick: >>>> >>>> dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sda >>>> >>>> The formatting goes out of the window. If you just copy it, it will >>>> not boot. >>> >>> >>> I pref "Etcher" ... does more checks than 'dd'. >>> There are a few others too. >> >> Just had a look, the thing is not included in the openSUSE repos, has >> to be downloaded from an external site. > > > Correct. > > Lots of stuff is not included in typical distros. But the download and install page recommends Etcher. Ah, no, my mistake: it is the help for Windows, the page for Linux recommends Impression or Imagewriter. <https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Create_a_Live_USB_stick_using_Windows> <https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Live_USB_stick> > > MX Linux has a built-in version of a stick/dvd > burner if that makes you feel better. I have used dd my entire life :-) When my only system was Windows (Me) I bought the SuSE professional in floppies and CDs. USB sticks had not yet been invented. So I think I never needed to create a stick under Windows. Maybe at work once? I burned install CD/DVDs, though. > > >>> In any case, Many Linux distros now seem WAY too fat. >> >> openSUSE has always been fat, but there was a minimal install option. >> There is even a small install iso, it downloads anything it needs >> during install. > > SUSE/OpenSUSE has always been kinda fat - however > it's mostly been a GOOD kind of 'fat'. Of late > however ....... > > DID use SUSE/OpenSUSE extensively back in the > day - but then it got kinda WEIRD and I dropped > it in favor of vanilla Deb for my servers. > >>> Some DO offer a 'basic install' and then you can add >>> just what YOU want ... this may be the better way, but >>> many will still just download the 'everything' version. >>> >>> I'm sure the Oracle version I got was "everything". >>> However I'm most likely to use it in a VM rather >>> than as a native install, so perhaps I should go >>> back looking for the 'smaller' revision. >>> >>> Oops ... looked ... you either get the HUGE one or >>> the 'boot only' version or their "UEK" boot version. >>> Some other distros are more reasonable with a slim >>> version and/or NetInst. >>> >>> Oh well, Winders is still MUCH larger these days ... >> >> Difference is, it is only the bare system. > > "Difference" ? Winders is just HUGE now no matter > which version/sub-version you have. 40+ gigs of > GARBAGE and spy-ware and gotcha-ware What a horror ! No office software, no anything useful. Have to be purchased separately. Does it have a video player that works? Mail perhaps, dunno. > >>> Oracle ... not 100% sure I *want* to use their stuff >>> given how they're sending most of their workers off >>> to the Soylent Green factory ........ > > -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-09-17 17:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XFVqS.43113$fTB4.17099@fx08.iad> |
| In reply to | #91615 |
On 2026-09-17, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 2026-09-17 08:41, c186282 wrote: > >> "Difference" ? Winders is just HUGE now no matter >> which version/sub-version you have. 40+ gigs of >> GARBAGE and spy-ware and gotcha-ware What a horror ! > > No office software, no anything useful. Have to be purchased separately. s/purchased/rented/ > Does it have a video player that works? Mail perhaps, dunno. I never got close enough to know. But remember that "Outlook" is best pronounced "Look out!" -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | In this world there are \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | two kinds of people: X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | 1. Those who can extrapolate / \ if you read it the right way. | from incomplete data.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2026-09-17 20:38 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <8lotnmxmbu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #91652 |
On 2026-09-17 19:44, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2026-09-17, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2026-09-17 08:41, c186282 wrote: >> >>> "Difference" ? Winders is just HUGE now no matter >>> which version/sub-version you have. 40+ gigs of >>> GARBAGE and spy-ware and gotcha-ware What a horror ! >> >> No office software, no anything useful. Have to be purchased separately. > > s/purchased/rented/ You can still buy it. > >> Does it have a video player that works? Mail perhaps, dunno. > > I never got close enough to know. But remember that > "Outlook" is best pronounced "Look out!" > -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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