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  Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 04:41 +0000
    Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 03:15 -0400
      Re: Ancient History John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-25 08:19 -0700
        Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 19:57 +0100
          Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 04:25 -0400
            Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 09:33 +0100
            Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 18:20 +0000
              Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 21:27 +0100
                Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 01:13 +0000
                  Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:24 -0400
                    Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 20:03 +0000
                      Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 23:47 -0400
                        Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 06:54 +0000
                          Re: Ancient History John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 09:28 -0700
                            Re: Ancient History Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 18:53 +0100
                            Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 20:58 +0000
                              Re: Ancient History John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-28 14:49 -0700
                                Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 05:41 +0000
                                  Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-29 02:00 -0400
                                    Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:00 +0100
                                    Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 21:46 +0000
                                  Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 09:57 +0100
                        Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:11 +0100
    Re: Ancient History "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:41 +0200
      Re: Ancient History Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:53 +0100
        Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 12:54 +0100
          Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 19:25 +0000
        Re: Ancient History "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-25 14:23 +0200
          Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 03:28 -0400
            Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 09:12 +0100
              Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 18:26 +0000
                Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:56 -0400
                  Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 12:00 +0100
                  Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 20:25 +0000
                    Re: Ancient History Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-27 21:48 +0000
                      Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:26 -0400
                        Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 06:59 +0000
                          Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:05 +0100
                            Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 21:02 +0000
                              Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:03 +0100
                      Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:03 +0100
                    Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:06 -0400
                      Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:08 +0100
                        Re: Ancient History "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 13:45 +0200
                          Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:42 +0100
                    Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:03 +0100
                      Re: Ancient History Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-28 12:07 -0400
                        Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 21:00 +0000
                          Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-29 02:22 -0400
                          Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:01 +0100
                          Re: Ancient History Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-29 10:01 -0400
            Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 18:23 +0000
              Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 21:29 +0100
      Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 12:31 +0100
        Re: Ancient History Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2026-08-25 07:53 -0400
        Re: Ancient History Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-25 18:26 +0000
          Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 19:37 +0000
      Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 19:16 +0000
        Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 20:21 +0100
          Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-26 04:40 +0000
    Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 12:30 +0100
      Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 02:49 -0400
    Re: Ancient History "Mr. Chang Man-wai" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-08-25 20:07 +0800
    Re: Ancient History Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:20 -0400
      Re: Ancient History Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-25 17:44 +0000
      Re: Ancient History Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-25 21:55 +0000
    Re: Ancient History not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-27 08:59 +1000
      Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 01:20 +0000
        Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:38 -0400
          Re: Ancient History vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-27 08:08 +0000
            Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:13 -0400
              Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 04:24 +0000
      Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:21 -0400
        Re: Ancient History not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-28 08:58 +1000
          Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:36 -0400
          Re: Ancient History rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 04:42 +0000
            Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 02:37 -0400
            Re: Ancient History not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2026-08-29 07:40 +1000
              Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-29 02:03 -0400
              Re: Ancient History The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:06 +0100
    Re: Ancient History Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-28 08:59 +0100
      Re: Ancient History c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-29 00:19 -0400

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#90741

On 27/08/2026 22:48, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2026-08-27, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'll count the pepper and tomato as my vegetable too. To paraphrase the
>> signs I've seen on some local businesses 'Kale has no home here.' I've
>> tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be the only thing in the world you
>> can fry up with plenty of bacon and garlic and it still isn't fit to eat.
> 
> I saw one kale recipe I liked.  It suggested stir-frying the kale in a pan
> with enough oil that you can easily slide it straight into the compost bin.
> 
+1
-- 
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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#90721

On 8/27/26 16:25, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 03:56:11 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Um ... try to be very sparse with the 'suppliments'
>>     for a number of practical and theoretical reasons. JUST enough to
>>     make up for my mostly keto diet.
> 
> I probably could drop some of the ones I take but they're not any of the
> expensive ones and *might* have some benefit. About the only one I would
> suggest is tumeric with piperine (black pepper). I've found it works
> better than glucosamine.

   Never tried tumeric. I keep hearing good and bad
   stuff about it.

> I tried fairly strict keto for a while. I don't obsess over it any more
> but I'm basically a carnivore. I can deal with Kennedy's pyramid although
> he's a little more into fruit.

   My granny was set against "rabbit food" - an lived
   well to 99. I seem to have inherited her tastes.
   Well, almost - most everything she ate was BOILED
   meat and taters, northern Euro/Scandi style.
   Kinda yuk ! Maybe once a year she'd throw in
   a little cabbage.

> Technically I get my daily fruit. Breakfast usually is a couple of cloves
> of garlic, one jalapeno, one tomato, one small onion or half of a larger
> one, two eggs, and a slice of cheese sauteed in olive oil.
> 
> I'll count the pepper and tomato as my vegetable too. To paraphrase the
> signs I've seen on some local businesses 'Kale has no home here.' I've
> tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be the only thing in the world you
> can fry up with plenty of bacon and garlic and it still isn't fit to eat.

   Veggie freaks can be, well, freaks. The WORSE it is
   the MORE they think they're getting benefit or being
   High Holy.

   Sorry, the critters will happily eat US - so I don't
   mind returning the sentiment :-)

   The reality of life on this planet can be MEAN. We
   are not musical cosmic energy-absorbing crystal
   philosopher lifeforms around some black-hole sun.

   Anyway, due to lack of veggies, I know I'm not getting
   enough folic acid or 'C' and a couple other little things.
   Those are the pills I buy. Often split 'em - the idea is
   Just Enough. Eat some, but not much, beef - so gotta throw
   in a B-12 once or twice a week. Anyway, the approach dropped
   me from 220 lbs to 155 over about a year. Gained back about
   15 over time but still MUCH better than my max-carb days.
   DO miss the chocolate and Cokes and chips though, but I'd
   have been living on the insulin needle otherwise.

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#90743

On 28/08/2026 05:06, c186282 wrote:
> On 8/27/26 16:25, rbowman wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2026 03:56:11 -0400, c186282 wrote:
>>
>>>     Um ... try to be very sparse with the 'suppliments'
>>>     for a number of practical and theoretical reasons. JUST enough to
>>>     make up for my mostly keto diet.
>>
>> I probably could drop some of the ones I take but they're not any of the
>> expensive ones and *might* have some benefit. About the only one I would
>> suggest is tumeric with piperine (black pepper). I've found it works
>> better than glucosamine.
> 
>    Never tried tumeric. I keep hearing good and bad
>    stuff about it.
> 
>> I tried fairly strict keto for a while. I don't obsess over it any more
>> but I'm basically a carnivore. I can deal with Kennedy's pyramid although
>> he's a little more into fruit.
> 
>    My granny was set against "rabbit food" - an lived
>    well to 99. I seem to have inherited her tastes.
>    Well, almost - most everything she ate was BOILED
>    meat and taters, northern Euro/Scandi style.
>    Kinda yuk ! Maybe once a year she'd throw in
>    a little cabbage.
> 
>> Technically I get my daily fruit. Breakfast usually is a couple of cloves
>> of garlic, one jalapeno, one tomato, one small onion or half of a larger
>> one, two eggs, and a slice of cheese sauteed in olive oil.
>>
>> I'll count the pepper and tomato as my vegetable too. To paraphrase the
>> signs I've seen on some local businesses 'Kale has no home here.' I've
>> tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be the only thing in the world you
>> can fry up with plenty of bacon and garlic and it still isn't fit to eat.
> 
>    Veggie freaks can be, well, freaks. The WORSE it is
>    the MORE they think they're getting benefit or being
>    High Holy.
> 
>    Sorry, the critters will happily eat US - so I don't
>    mind returning the sentiment :-)
> 
>    The reality of life on this planet can be MEAN. We
>    are not musical cosmic energy-absorbing crystal
>    philosopher lifeforms around some black-hole sun.
> 
>    Anyway, due to lack of veggies, I know I'm not getting
>    enough folic acid or 'C' and a couple other little things.
>    Those are the pills I buy. Often split 'em - the idea is
>    Just Enough. Eat some, but not much, beef - so gotta throw
>    in a B-12 once or twice a week. Anyway, the approach dropped
>    me from 220 lbs to 155 over about a year. Gained back about
>    15 over time but still MUCH better than my max-carb days.
>    DO miss the chocolate and Cokes and chips though, but I'd
>    have been living on the insulin needle otherwise.
> 
More likely metformin. A really nasty drug

-- 
To ban Christmas, simply give turkeys the vote.

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#90819

On 2026-08-28 13:08, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 28/08/2026 05:06, c186282 wrote:
>> On 8/27/26 16:25, rbowman wrote:


>>    Anyway, due to lack of veggies, I know I'm not getting
>>    enough folic acid or 'C' and a couple other little things.
>>    Those are the pills I buy. Often split 'em - the idea is
>>    Just Enough. Eat some, but not much, beef - so gotta throw
>>    in a B-12 once or twice a week. Anyway, the approach dropped
>>    me from 220 lbs to 155 over about a year. Gained back about
>>    15 over time but still MUCH better than my max-carb days.
>>    DO miss the chocolate and Cokes and chips though, but I'd
>>    have been living on the insulin needle otherwise.
>>
> More likely metformin. A really nasty drug

Why? :-?



-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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#90849

On 29/08/2026 12:45, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-28 13:08, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 28/08/2026 05:06, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 8/27/26 16:25, rbowman wrote:
> 
> 
>>>    Anyway, due to lack of veggies, I know I'm not getting
>>>    enough folic acid or 'C' and a couple other little things.
>>>    Those are the pills I buy. Often split 'em - the idea is
>>>    Just Enough. Eat some, but not much, beef - so gotta throw
>>>    in a B-12 once or twice a week. Anyway, the approach dropped
>>>    me from 220 lbs to 155 over about a year. Gained back about
>>>    15 over time but still MUCH better than my max-carb days.
>>>    DO miss the chocolate and Cokes and chips though, but I'd
>>>    have been living on the insulin needle otherwise.
>>>
>> More likely metformin. A really nasty drug
> 
> Why? :-?
> 
> 
Look up its side effects

> 

-- 
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They 
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

Margaret Thatcher

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#90740

On 27/08/2026 21:25, rbowman wrote:
> 'Kale has no home here.' I've
> tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be the only thing in the world you
> can fry up with plenty of bacon and garlic and it still isn't fit to eat.
<FX> applause </FX>

The key is to cut out carbs, There simply are no 'healthy' carbs. Bread 
is the absolute worst.

meat/fish/fruit.

-- 
Climate Change: Socialism wearing a lab coat.

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#90768

The Natural Philosopher wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):

> On 27/08/2026 21:25, rbowman wrote:
>> 'Kale has no home here.' I've
>> tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be the only thing in the world you
>> can fry up with plenty of bacon and garlic and it still isn't fit to eat.
> <FX> applause </FX>
>
> The key is to cut out carbs, There simply are no 'healthy' carbs. Bread 
> is the absolute worst.

Unfortunately, beer has carbs (at least the beers that are
drinkable).

> meat/fish/fruit.

But beware of Trump's mystery meat :-D

$ aiksaurus meat
=== vittles ==================
board, bread, cheer, comestibles, creature comfort, cuisine, daily
bread, fast food, feast, health food, ingesta, meat, provender,
provision, spread, sustenance, table, tucker, viands, victuals,
vittles


-- 
The only thing better than love is milk.

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#90783

On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 12:07:06 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> The Natural Philosopher wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
> 
>> On 27/08/2026 21:25, rbowman wrote:
>>> 'Kale has no home here.' I've tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be
>>> the only thing in the world you can fry up with plenty of bacon and
>>> garlic and it still isn't fit to eat.
>> <FX> applause </FX>
>>
>> The key is to cut out carbs, There simply are no 'healthy' carbs. Bread
>> is the absolute worst.
> 
> Unfortunately, beer has carbs (at least the beers that are drinkable).

I cut beer out back in the '70s. The world may be a better place for it. 

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#90799

On 8/28/26 17:00, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 12:07:06 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> 
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
>>
>>> On 27/08/2026 21:25, rbowman wrote:
>>>> 'Kale has no home here.' I've tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be
>>>> the only thing in the world you can fry up with plenty of bacon and
>>>> garlic and it still isn't fit to eat.
>>> <FX> applause </FX>
>>>
>>> The key is to cut out carbs, There simply are no 'healthy' carbs. Bread
>>> is the absolute worst.
>>
>> Unfortunately, beer has carbs (at least the beers that are drinkable).
> 
> I cut beer out back in the '70s. The world may be a better place for it.

   Nah, not really ... I kinda encourage beer or
   equivs to mess-up govt propaganda lines.

   However YOU may be better off, depending.

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#90804

On 28/08/2026 22:00, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 12:07:06 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> 
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
>>
>>> On 27/08/2026 21:25, rbowman wrote:
>>>> 'Kale has no home here.' I've tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be
>>>> the only thing in the world you can fry up with plenty of bacon and
>>>> garlic and it still isn't fit to eat.
>>> <FX> applause </FX>
>>>
>>> The key is to cut out carbs, There simply are no 'healthy' carbs. Bread
>>> is the absolute worst.
>>
>> Unfortunately, beer has carbs (at least the beers that are drinkable).
> 
> I cut beer out back in the '70s. The world may be a better place for it.

Beer and wine are now special treats. I don't drink every night,m but I 
generally drink once a week. And pay the price in mental sogginess the 
next day. Liver and kidneys are not what they were


-- 
"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted 
man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest 
thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly 
persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid 
before him."

    - Leo Tolstoy

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#90828

rbowman wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):

> On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 12:07:06 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):
>> 
>>> On 27/08/2026 21:25, rbowman wrote:
>>>> 'Kale has no home here.' I've tried. Honestly I've tried. It has to be
>>>> the only thing in the world you can fry up with plenty of bacon and
>>>> garlic and it still isn't fit to eat.
>>> <FX> applause </FX>
>>>
>>> The key is to cut out carbs, There simply are no 'healthy' carbs. Bread
>>> is the absolute worst.
>> 
>> Unfortunately, beer has carbs (at least the beers that are drinkable).
>
> I cut beer out back in the '70s. The world may be a better place for it. 

    <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zZtxE3JzO8>

    Mojo Nixon - "Beer Ain't Drinkin'"

Do not RIP, Mojo!

-- 
Noise proves nothing.  Often a hen who has merely laid an egg cackles
as if she laid an asteroid.
		-- Mark Twain

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#90646

On Wed, 26 Aug 2026 03:28:20 -0400, c186282 wrote:

>    Amazing how Win95/98 WOULD work with WAY too little RAM. Just, well,
>    kinda SLOW.

Up to 16 MB Win95 would set up a swap file. 48 MB wasn't bad. iirc early 
Linux was also big on swapping stuff out. I think you can still push Mint 
on 4 GB hard enough it will start shedding programs.

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#90649

On 26/08/2026 19:23, rbowman wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2026 03:28:20 -0400, c186282 wrote:
> 
>>     Amazing how Win95/98 WOULD work with WAY too little RAM. Just, well,
>>     kinda SLOW.
> 
> Up to 16 MB Win95 would set up a swap file. 48 MB wasn't bad. iirc early
> Linux was also big on swapping stuff out. I think you can still push Mint
> on 4 GB hard enough it will start shedding programs.

Yes. Tho mine tends to just crash. After  its been 'laptop downed'
  --
Gun Control: The law that ensures that only criminals have guns.

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#90526

On 25/08/2026 10:41, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> 
> Back then, my machine that would happily run Win 98 had trouble running 
> SuSE Linux. Linux wanted as much ram as possible.
> 
Yep. My VM XP runs in 3GB Ram But the old 98 was a fair bit less than that

-- 
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They 
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

Margaret Thatcher

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#90529

The Natural Philosopher wrote this screed in ALL-CAPS (fixed):

> On 25/08/2026 10:41, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> 
>> Back then, my machine that would happily run Win 98 had trouble running 
>> SuSE Linux. Linux wanted as much ram as possible.
>> 
> Yep. My VM XP runs in 3GB Ram But the old 98 was a fair bit less than that

So do Republican governments, based on past and present history:

> -- 
> "Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They 
> always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"
>
> Margaret Thatcher

-- 
"Success covers a multitude of blunders."
		-- George Bernard Shaw

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#90550

On 2026-08-25, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 25/08/2026 10:41, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>
>> Back then, my machine that would happily run Win 98 had trouble running 
>> SuSE Linux. Linux wanted as much ram as possible.
> 
> Yep. My VM XP runs in 3GB Ram But the old 98 was a fair bit less than that

My XP VM runs in 512MB.  Mind you, I don't run big programs...

My first Linux box had 48MB of RAM and a 1.3GB hard drive.
I loaded Slackware 3.5 onto it, later upgrading to Slack 7.
I was able to run X (with fvwm), and under Wine I managed
to run a couple of my Windows programs that talked to each
other.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  In this world there are
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  two kinds of people:
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  1. Those who can extrapolate
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |  from incomplete data.

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#90567

On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 18:26:48 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> My first Linux box had 48MB of RAM and a 1.3GB hard drive.
> I loaded Slackware 3.5 onto it, later upgrading to Slack 7.
> I was able to run X (with fvwm), and under Wine I managed to run a
> couple of my Windows programs that talked to each other.

My first distro was Slackware, downloaded from the ftp site in floppy 
sized chunks. A lot of chunks. If there is anything on the old Compaq that 
must be it. 

The CD is gone but Red Hat Linux 5.1 from 1998 says it will run in 8 MB. 

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#90562

On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 11:41:14 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> Back then, my machine that would happily run Win 98 had trouble running
> SuSE Linux. Linux wanted as much ram as possible.

I have the boxed set of SuSE 8.1 from 2002. I'll have to check the system 
requirements but I doubt 48 MB is in the cards. 

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#90564

On 25/08/2026 20:16, rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 11:41:14 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> Back then, my machine that would happily run Win 98 had trouble running
>> SuSE Linux. Linux wanted as much ram as possible.
> 
> I have the boxed set of SuSE 8.1 from 2002. I'll have to check the system
> requirements but I doubt 48 MB is in the cards.

"A default graphical installation of SuSE Linux 8.1 (released in 2002) 
requires a minimum of 2 GB of free hard disk space and at least 96 MB to 
128 MB of RAM for comfortable desktop use. "

Works OK as a server

-- 
You can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a 
kind word alone.

Al Capone

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#90593

On Tue, 25 Aug 2026 20:21:46 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> "A default graphical installation of SuSE Linux 8.1 (released in 2002)
> requires a minimum of 2 GB of free hard disk space and at least 96 MB to
> 128 MB of RAM for comfortable desktop use. "

Inflation was well underway. It's been a minute or two since I used it but 
I don't remember Win95 being all that bad in a box with 48 MB. However I 
was moving up from Windows 3.11 on a Compaq Concerto with 4 MB of RAM and 
a 33 MHz processor. I was fortunate enough not to get involved with 
Windows 1.0 or 2.0.

I never felt deprived until Java introduced Swing instead of AWT. Let the 
enshitification begin. I lost interest when the answer to the sloth like 
performance in the Java forums was 'You need a better computer.' 

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